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Art for non-art’s sake: the Times Square monument to our age — 22 Comments

  1. Art in service to ugliness was formerly known as comedy.

    Ha!

    That’s not funny.

  2. That ancient fat woman was probably a bow to her fertility. The one in Times Square isn’t.

    I was in Richmond a few years ago, following the Charlottesville controversy, when I heard a young woman say how nice it would be to get all those old statues out of the road and replace them with modern art. I don’t know what horrors have been erected since.

  3. A monument to heart disease and diabetes? What’s not to like? I’m defiantly oppressed.

  4. Was it TN Coates who first popularized the phrase “black bodies” around the time of Obummer’s second term?

    Blacks used to be all about soul, a much more uplifting concept than the mere material of the body.

  5. I have to admit that I like the sculpture in question, but only a little bit. I don’t think it’s nearly good enough to justify its size or location. It should be reduced to a foot or two high, then moved to an out of the way place, in a regional museum. It’d be a minor curiosity that might prompt a second look, before moving on. In my mind anyway, that kind of resetting would drain the piece of much of its tiresome politics.

  6. Was it TN Coates who first popularized the phrase “black bodies” around the time of Obummer’s second term?

    Marisa:

    That’s where I first noticed that use of “bodies.”

    It’s from the book, “Between the World and Me” — one of the worst I know. Poorly written, poorly considered, and shameful racist propaganda.

    Naturally it won the 2015 National Book Award for Nonfiction.

  7. Well at least the sculpture wasn’t a giant turd.

    I checked the web for a famous public turd sculpture I once read of. I found several. It is, let us say, a common motif in modern sculpture.

    Perhaps the reader thinks I’m joking.
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    Public art is always subject to debate, and in San Diego, the preference tends to run on the less-than-sophisticated side. Statues of dolphins and fishermen will barely cause a ripple, but anything remotely abstract will elicit cries of outrage.

    There is one sculpture in particular that caused befuddlement, more than outrage, along with a high-level of embarrassed chuckles. Representing a large bowel movement, hospital staff and patients of the Scripps Green Hospital referred to the sculpture piece as the “Scripps Turd” which remains its reputation to this day.

    –“The Scripps Turd Sculpture in San Diego”
    https://www.tripsavvy.com/the-okeanos-sculpture-scripps-green-hospital-2937428

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    This sculptor is not some rando street artist, throwing bombs. He attended Oxford for three years. He has won a Guggenheim and a Lifetime Achievement Award.

    Given that artists, especially sculptors, usually think about what they are doing, it’s hard for me not to consider such sculptures in part as the artist’s comment on the public.

    Sadly, I still haven’t found the turd sculpture I was looking for.

  8. The overweight is yet another victim group that must be championed.

    We have a family that are close friends. Their youngest daughter is very overweight, by at least a hundred pounds. She applied to a relative prestigious college in Virginia where my wife is an alumni. My wife said there’s no way she gets in with a high school GPA at the low C level and 20% SAT. I told my wife just watch as she’s now one of the victim groups. Sure enough the girl gets in. She lasted a year and then went home to go to the local community college.

    This comment also could go in Neo’s post above on the lack of meritocracy.

  9. The statue of the overweight woman of color looks like every overweight, middle-aged woman of color about to throw a public confrontational tantrum with a minimum wage cashier or fast-food service worker. The kind of woman who sets off the kind of public brawl recorded on a bystanders’ cellphone that makes a social media splash and not in a good way.

  10. ”The overweight is yet another victim group that must be championed.”

    Not all of the overweight, just overweight women. Overweight men are held in more contempt and subject to more ridicule than ever.

  11. Sgt. Mom: that was exactly my reaction. I happened to have seen just such a video within the previous day or so of seeing the statue, and the connection made itself pretty insistently. I wonder how many people reacted that way. If many, the statue may have had the opposite of its intended effect.

  12. “That new statue looks to me like Letitia James.” I agree, or Fani Willis.
    Or, as I saw on another site, “DMV employee taking her seventh break.” 🙂

  13. Seward Johnson operated a workshop in New Jersey which produced trompe l’oeil sculptures for public places. A park bench would be decorated with a sculpture of a man reading a newspaper, &c. Some of them are more appealing than others. (Robert Hughes despised Johnson and his work, so you know it has some value). I think they were meant to be whimsical, not aggressive.

  14. Sgt. Mom,

    That was my reaction also. It’s not her weight, it’s her attitude. I find it insulting. It’s akin to a 12′ sculpture of the stereotypical image of a “Karen,” or the image of Melissa Click that has become an online meme.

    Why would an artist choose to use such a large medium (12′) to depict a woman in such a pose? It’s insulting and rude.

  15. This was supposed to be a response to the two white men honored by statures in Times Square: George M. Cohan, songwriter and showman, and Father Francis Duffy, chaplain and decorated war hero. The usual response would have been to find a woman or an African-American who had similar achievements and erect a statue to her or him. This generic statue doesn’t say much for our era. Is it really enough to be black and a woman and look askance at the white men? Do actual achievements count for nothing?

  16. @ Abraxas > “Do actual achievements count for nothing?”

    The high-achieving black people (not bodies) are more likely to be conservatives, or even Republicans.

  17. “Motion passed. Fatty fatty boombaladdi is now hate speech”.

    – King of The Hill

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