David Hogg plans to pull the Democrats to the left
A certain segment of the Democratic Party thinks this is the wave of the future, led by the 25-year-old David Hogg, who is vice-chair of the DNC:
The move puts Hogg, the now 25-year-old who first gained national stature as an outspoken survivor of the Stoneman Douglas High School shooting, on a collision course with his own party and some Democratic House members.
Leaders We Deserve, which Hogg co-founded in 2023, announced plans on Tuesday to spend $20 million in safe-blue Democratic primaries against sitting House members by supporting younger opponents. In an interview with POLITICO, Hogg said the group will not back primary challenges in battleground districts because “I want us to win the majority,” nor will it target members solely based on their age.
The Democrats don’t have a history of primarying incumbents, but that is what Hogg is proposing. He’s not destructive enough to propose this in districts that are considered at risk, however. It is a plan to pull the party as much as possible to the left and to the young (Hogg himself is exceptionally young for his position).
DNC Chair Ken Martin is said to have differing views from Hogg, so I don’t know how this will play out.
From Hogg:
“Our base is craving dramatic change,” Hogg said. “We need to show our base we’re here to fight for them. We need to show there are younger faces stepping up.”
But Hogg did name-check two exceptions: Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who is 85, and Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.), who is 80. He described them as “fighters who are delivering.”
But they’ve also both drawn generational challengers — Saikat Chakrabarti, the 39-year-old former chief of staff to Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), who is running against Pelosi, and YouTube influencer Kat Abughazaleh, 26, who is running against Schakowsky. Hogg said Leaders We Deserve they would not intervene in either race.
Pelosi is running again? Indeed.
James Carville had a few choice words for Hogg:
… [Carville] blasted Hogg’s actions to Chris Cuomo on News Nation: “I don’t know if I have standing, but I might give the DNC $10 to sue him. He’s a contemptible little twerp if you ask me.”
NOTE: And Nate Silver predicts that AOC will be the Democrats’ presidential nominee in 2028. She recently turned 35 – my how time flies! – so she’ll be old enough.
I think I’ll go with the kettle corn watching this.
But are Democrats stupid enough to run AOC?
“ outspoken survivor” as in jumped on his bike and raced to the scene of the shooting. What a dweeb.
And nate crome has long since removed all doubt
Remember how his polling could not imagine a trump win
I am very disappointed in James Carville. I really expected him to know that t-w-e-r-p is not how you spell dickhead.
I’d almost pay to see Ms Ocasio-Cortez debate VPOTUS Vance for the 2028 election.
James Carville and David Hogg are two sides of the same coin. James Carville just wants the Dems to lie about their intentions and get elected, then do what the Left wants.
Carville wanted us all treated like nazi collaborators last week now hes all on ‘maryland man’ return, he has endorsed every democrat clinton biden obama even kamala and their works
Did he oppose so called defund the police not that i noticed did he really speak up on the immigration invasion his objections are always aesthetic but he always get back in line
One of Hogg’s more recent projects was to start a bedding company to run Mike Lindell out of business. You can see what he’s accomplished with that. He’s a twit with no real skill set.
Democrats appear to be sailing between the Scylla of Hogg and the Charybdis of Carville. One can only hope they choose to head into the whirlpool and take their entire enterprise down into the depths.
Honestly, you’d think there were no intelligent women, to see the candidates Dems have been coming with. Well, Clinton was reasonably intelligent, but we’ve been on a downward slide.
He must be a full blooded Marxist, and survivor as in coulda shouda woulda almost if he was actually in the school.
I don’t think going farther left is a winning plan.
I have no doubt those who run the DNC would want to do to AOC what they did more than once to Bernie and simply finagle her out of the nomination. But do they still have enough juice to do that?
I rhink i noted miss abuzedeh the one with the kaffiyeh on her blonde locks (maybe jordanian)
Dwaz,
Sanders is a commie usurper. He only runs as a democrat for president. The party is right to screw him over.
AOC wins hands down. Unfortunately she is a 5-4 crybaby hysteric so Vance will have to avoid looking like a bully.
Chakrabarti the subanda bhose fan (i dian fascist) was reputedly cortez brain trust such that it exists and was alleged to have committed fraud so she really fits in the dem bench
Honestly, you’d think there were no intelligent women,
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Martha Griffiths is long dead.
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Pat Schroeder is dead.
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Dianne Feinstein was ruined by her long sojourn in Congress and is now dead.
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Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s intelligence was devoted to making the world worse.
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Elizabeth Holtzman is an aged fanatic
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Carol Bellamy has been employed time and again running NGOs and is therefore suspect.
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Martha Layne Collins is bearing down on 90.
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Outside the realm of politicians one must note that Katherine Hepburn and Lauren Bacall had opinions. They were absolutely lovely. They are also dead.
Bernie did not have the votes in 2016.
Of course David Hogg hopes to pull the Democrats to the left. The Left plays the Long Game.
Think back to where the Left was in the early sixties. The anti-war movement was a tiny group of protesters, the Civil Rights movement was larger but just taking off. Likewise second wave feminism. Gay rights, TG, forget about it. The Beat movement was centered in a few enclaves on the coasts. Hippies didn’t exist.
Yet the Left grew stronger and stronger. There were setbacks, of course, but by 2020 they had captured the Democrat Party, the Deep State, the Legacy Media, Academia, Hollywood and the White House.
The Left doubles down. It doesn’t back down. The Democrat Party, whatever remains of it, is must go to war and defeat the Left to set a new course.
My guess is that doesn’t start to change until they lose big in 2028, if then.
AOC is to 2028 as Trump was to 2024. Both candidates were/would be (i) plausible winners; and (ii) the other party’s best chance of winning.
Communism explained.
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If you are a meme fan, check Sarah Hoyt’s blog on Fridays.
https://accordingtohoyt.com/2025/04/12/let-them-eat-memes/
Bring your own popcorn.
Oh good, I wish Hogg every success in that effort. May he and those who are in agreement reap all that they deserve.
Pat Schroeder is dead. – Buried in her Bunny Suit ( that she wore it on the Great Wall is a testament to her intelligence?)
I told my Wife it will AOC and Crockett.
John Guilfoyle on April 17, 2025 at 5:30 pm said:
“I’d almost pay to see Ms. Ocasio-Cortez debate VPOTUS Vance for the 2028 election.”
My thoughts, exactly!! and if by some chance AOC did win, we would all be paying big time!
Art Deco on April 17, 2025 at 6:16 pm said:
“One of Hogg’s more recent projects was to start a bedding company to run Mike Lindell out of business. You can see what he’s accomplished with that. He’s a twit with no real skill set.”
But per TR, he is in the ring and playing the game. By age 35 or 40 he might have gained enough “knowledge” from his failures to finally succeed. Something about getting wiser via the experience of bad past judgements, etc. But whatever his young liberal heart is telling him now, he will probably never be wise enough when older to have a real head.
Wendy K Laubach on April 17, 2025 at 6:44 pm said:
“Honestly, you’d think there were no intelligent women, to see the candidates Dems have been coming with.” While Art Deco provided a number of names I did not really recognize, the only name I keep coming up with is Donna Brazil for some reason, and of course she has integrity problems from her past. I suppose there still are a few women Dem congress critters or governors who might make a decent play for power.
Miguel cervantes on April 17, 2025 at 8:19 pm said:
“Chakrabarti the subanda bhose fan (i dian fascist) was reputedly cortez brain trust such that it exists and was alleged to have committed fraud so she really fits in the dem bench”
And if he is going from advisor for a NY district rep to a candidate in SF, CA, then isn’t that the core definition of carpet bagger?
@ Neo: ” [AOC] recently turned 35 – my how time flies! – so she’ll be old enough.”
So 38 in 2028, just under Vance’s current 40 (soon to be 41). On that basis it would be hard to argue she is still too young, but I have come to the conclusion we really ought to amend the Constitutional requirement for presidential age to at least a “seasoned” 45 to 55, for today’s modern world. In the 2016 race I still thought Rubio and Cruz were “not quite yet ready” in their mid 40’s – men with promise but possibly just “flash in the pan” type politicians and leaders until they had had and demonstrated longer and wider experience. Maybe they have now proven me wrong, along with Vance and DeSantis. A major plus for the latter two is their ability to handle the media. I suppose both Rubio and Cruz have also gotten better at that skill, too?
AOC is to 2028 as Trump was to 2024. Both candidates were/would be (i) plausible winners; and (ii) the other party’s best chance of winning.
Bauxite:
Can you explain (ii) with reference to Trump?
He won decisively in 2024 mostly because Americans liked his platform, not his personality.
My impression of Donna Brazile is that she may be the least mendacious person in elite Democratic politics. When she got involved in big time Democratic politics, you still had a critical mass of Democratic politicians who were not sociopaths.
I have a suspicion that AOC’s performance in surveys is a function of name recognition. (Which does not say much for the respondents, to be sure).
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If you look at the line up of candidates to which Democratic primary voters did not give a second look in 2020 and the line up of those who were somewhat competitive, and the eventual winner, you can see the Democratic primary electorate is a collecting pool of idiots. Michael Dukakis, Walter Mondale, Jimmy Carter, George McGovern, and Hubert Humphrey and the men they defeated could be critiqued. They were not idiots or sociopaths and few if any of their principal opponents were such. We got from there to here due to the moral decay of the professional-managerial class.
huxley – If you’re going to say that Trump won decisively because people liked his platform, you have to say the same thing about Obama in 2008 and 2012. Both of Obama’s victories were more decisive than Trump’s victory in 2024. In 2012, Obama won 332 electoral votes and 51.5% of the popular vote. Compare and contrast to Trump’s 312 and 49.8% last time around. Then compare to Obama’s 365/52.9% in 2008. I know this is heresy around here, but Trump’s 2024 victory most closely resembles Biden’s victory in 2020 (306/51.3%).
The short answer is that none of those candidates won decisively, except for Obama in 2008 and that certainly none of those candidates won decisively because people liked their platform. (2008 was a special case.) Every single president in the last 20 years has taken office, behaved as though the public had fully endorsed their platform, lost at least one house of Congress and (more often) both in the midterm, and then promptly handed the White House back to the other party. (Except Obama, who benefited in 2008 from people’s reluctance to throw out the first African American president and his own successful demonization of Romney and Ryan.)
A much more plausible explanation for the past twenty years is that the public has been repeatedly “throwing the bums out,” looking for someone who can deliver results. At the same time, the extremes of both parties have gone insane, nominating extreme candidates or goading previously mainstream candidates into using the power of the presidency to launch the whole country on ideological flights of fancy that would have been unthinkable in the 20th century.
Then we throw the bums out. Wash, rinse, repeat. And I think it will continue until the strains on the Constitutional structure are too much and something breaks, or one party seizes the opportunity to run on and govern under a “normalcy” platform a la Harding/Coolidge and becomes the majority party for a generation.
Whoever the Democrats nominated in 2024 was going to be saddled with Biden’s record, making any GOP nominee a plausible winner. Democrats best chance in 2024 was to run against Trump, who, recall, was the candidate that they wanted the GOP to nominate last year.
Same thing in 2028. Whoever the GOP nominates in 2028 is going to be saddled with Trump’s record, making any Democratic nominee a plausible winner. Republicans best chance in 2028 will be to run against AOC.
(And regarding Trump’s platform – Trump’s governance in the first three months of his administration is considerably different than his first term. As a matter of fact, before January the most common defense of Trump against accusations that he was going to, well, launch a global trade war or begin deporting people without process is that he didn’t do that the first time around. Well, as the Clintonistas used to say, that’s no longer operative. I think there are a lot of 2024 Trump voters who believed that they were voting for the version of Trump that we saw from 2017-2019. I guess we’ll see.)
Hillary is calling out to “people of good conscience.”
Would she even know what “good conscience” is, what a joke*
* See https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/04/hillary-clinton-calls-americans-conscience-stand-against-deportation/
or one party seizes the opportunity to run on and govern under a “normalcy” platform
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Deporting illegal aliens, ending the embezzlement of public funds to finance sorosphere agitators, ending censorship over the internet, ending the Pritziker family’s efforts to use federal agencies to promote genital mutilation, and containing China is the ‘normalcy platform’.
Art Deco – Keep telling yourself that. It’s the same thing that Democrats told themselves when Biden took office.
Another tome from CC™. CC™ somehow fancies that President Trump’s imigration actions are unpopular with the voters and that Federal Circuit Judges should run that national policy. Due process indeed and a threat to Constitutional governance? The Maryland Man must return? In the CC™ universe, no matter what, The Great Orange Whale must be vanquished.
Oh noes…anyways
Art Deco – Keep telling yourself that. It’s the same thing that Democrats told themselves when Biden took office.
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Try not to be too self-indicting.
and they drove the country, into the ground, using mostly cortez and chakrabarti’s game plan, the green nude eel, that the Possums like Cassidy allowed to become law, thanks to Manchin and Sinema,
My sole national representative in my small state of Vermont, Becca Balint, is hopelessly Marxist. I write her on occasion, perhaps just to let her know that there are still some sane folks who live in her state. Any thoughts on how to break through to someone of this ilk? Or am I wasting my time writing?
@huxley
Bauxite can explain, just not well, honestly, or consistently. Because they have achieved the significant feat of doublethinking themselves into the ground on the Great Orange Whale and have been for a long time. Which is why Bauxite started with their conclusion (Trump Bad, Trump Worst Possible Option) and their incentives (not wanting to eat crow and admit when they had been wrong), and worked backwards to try to justify that with a bunch of text that doesn’t hold up on close scrutiny or given their prior conduct.
And if anyone disagrees with their conclusion, Bauxite assumes they are part of a Trump Cult who cannot criticize Cheeto or otherwise disregards the statements.
It’s one reason why they suck so utterly fucking much when it comes to this subject. They can’t acknowledge or take onboard valid criticism, and often don’t even address it.
Like how we see from the cowardly, chickenshit, dishonest “No U” response to Art Deco. Because Bauxite can’t actually address those points (or if I’m more generous “won’t”, which in practice amounts to the same basic thing), let alone why Trump has been more effective than most Presidents in recent history for the conservative cause.
It’s ironic because Bauxite makes some valid points, both in general and on rarer occasions about Trump in particular. But carrying that through is apparently beyond them. Hence the gaslighting (like when I caught them bullshitting about statistics that the GOPE had better Get Out The Vote programs than Trump did because of vote percentage, while ignoring how GOTV is about raw vote numbers and how the left had to do even more to move votes to match that; the excuse is no longer tenable after 2024 but that kind of gives you the idea), evasion, and so on.
yes vermont was infested by too many new yorkers thats how you get the likes of Commisar Sanders, and a possum governor like Douglas,
Pat Schroeder seemed ridiculous then, but now compared to the likes of the bugeyed secretary of state, well shes an improvement, all of these people had their inception in ’74 with the bete noire from San Clemente, whose main fault imho was not being ruthless enough,
Of course between the Deep State pentagon who was at
odds over the China embrace (which was probably correct in retrospect) and Mark Felt, who knew Marks like Woodward with great ease,
as my friend Clarice reminds me,* these special persecutors have always played dirty and possums like Howard Baker have always obliged them
*she handled the appeal of a minor official who got tangentially involved in Watergate and reversed the charge
on the fullness of time, we see they have never had anything to offer, except pain and heartache, but some seem to have learn the lesson again and again,
Eh, Bauxite is a Swamp Creature, and the last 50 years of GOPe theater and leftward ratchet is exactly what he wants. Of course he will never accept Trump or those who voted for him. Trump is messing up the system of Team Red/Team Blue kayfabe and appropriations for the connected that Swamp Creatures depend on to pay the mortgage.
The lead-up to 2016 was blue sky territory for the Democrats. They had years to come up with a real candidate, particularly someone younger who could energize them against Trump. But they ended up with Crooked Hillary, after cheating Bernie Sanders out of a nomination he would have likely won (and proceeded to lose the general yugely because he’s an idiot).
And again in 2020, it was even more of an open playfield for them. They had tons of candidates, and surprisingly, some of them were not horrible. I thought Andrew Yang wasn’t awful, despite his ludicrous plan for universal basic income. Tulsi Gabbard was also an honest, intelligent and principled liberal, and we all know what happened to her. Despite all these candidates, they went with someone even older than Trump, again forgoing entirely the youth and vigor aspect (although hardly anyone has Trump’s vigor, despite him approaching 80). Biden was already deep into dementia, and it was clear they recognized this by having him run for President in seclusion.
In 2024, they ended up with the worst major party candidate in my lifetime, and perhaps much longer, with a running mate that was arguably even worse. Harris is an idiot, but Walz is a repulsive idiot.
Now the Democrats are back in blue sky land. They can focus on someone new, find someone with some real accomplishments, and maybe even some charisma (Does anyone remember Bill Clinton? History has been kind to him because of how much worse his successors have been.)
And yet, they are doubling down on every bad thing and every bad candidate and idea they’ve had for the last decade. And if Biden weren’t clearly on death’s door, mentally if not physically, I have no doubt they would Weekend at Bernie’s him yet again. Carville has said as much (about the party sticking bad candidates), and yet, he’s going to the mat over this Garcia El Salvador thing, showing he’s too deep into lala-land himself. He used to be smarter than that.
How much worse can they get? I mean, I like having the Republicans in charge. Well, I like having Trump in charge. The Republicans themselves are pretty useless with a few exceptions. But it’s good to have a competitive and vigorous opponent to challenge the party in power with real ideas and reasonable alternatives.
If it weren’t for the absolute lock the left has on the media, academia, and most of industry, Trump’s approval rating would be 20-30 points higher, and the Republicans would sweep everything for a generation. The absolute clown show the Democrats are running right now is only making this worse.
JD Vance is the heir-apparent for 2028, and he’s got many of Trump’s strengths, and few of his weaknesses. All the possible Democrat candidates I hear talked about are 50 IQ points beneath him with embarrassingly thin resumes. Do they not understand this? Why do they keep picking the absolute worst people in the party to run for high office?
Ty Rex:
Wasting your time if you think it will change her actions on anything. Not wasting your time if your goal is to vent and/or be counted. If you know other conservatives in the state you might try to organize a writing campaign so the number of such letters she receives is higher. But it won’t change what she does.
turtler – It’s fascinating that, in a post criticizing me for purportedly not “carrying through” my reasoning you fail to address even a single substantive point from my comment. Very telling.