Working out four hours every day at the age of 64? You’ve got to be kidding:
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Open thread 4/3/2025 — 34 Comments
This guy is contributing to the poisonous and just plain cruel concept that people who are morbidly obese and chronically ill with diabetes and sore joints can improve their health and well-being with hard work and self discipline.
Shame on him.
I work out several times per week, for about 2 hours each time. I’m a decade older than him. I’m far less ripped than him, but in much better shape than most 70+ people. Maybe a dose-response relationship?
My former next door neighbor was the healthiest guy I knew. He was an emergency room doc. Ran every day. Died on his kitchen floor from an aneurysm at 71. Emergency room nurse wife was in attendance.
Four hours a day of vigorous exercise is obsessive and not necessary to maintain good health and fitness.
Well, morbidly obese people can indeed benefit from exercise. Four vigorous hours a day is too much for most people, even those in good physical condition. The morbidly obese, barring unusual medical conditions, could dramatically improve their overall health by severely restricting sugar and white flour products from their diets. Adding resistant starches in place of the sugar and white flour and eating enough protein would also help.
Thanks, David Foster. The tariff hysteria is overdone, in my opinion, and I think the markets will settle down.
Trump’s Import Taxes, aka Tariffs are as clueless as they are dangerous.
Can anyone explain to me why the UK has been hit with a 10% tax on anything we export to the USA and what benefit this has to the US or UK?
For the benefit of clarity here are the UK tariffs on some of the most heavily imported US products.
2. Natural Gas
• Value: £6.6 billion
• UK Tariff: 0%
3. Turbines & Power Generators
• Value: £5.5 billion
• UK Tariff: Generally 0%, but some components may incur tariffs up to 2% depending on their classification.
4. Pharmaceuticals
• Value: £3.8 billion
• UK Tariff: 0%
10. Telecom Equipment
• Value: £900 million
• UK Tariff: 0%
These figures are based on data from the UK’s Office for National Statistics for the year 2023.
And now I am 64 I will not be worrying about my appearance to the extent of wasting four hours a day in a gym.
It strikes me the UK must, repeat must, now live on imports, except for cars and organic chemicals, per David Clayton’s useful list @ 1:29 today, because Britain is industrially dying, and must import to survive, thus cannot afford to levy tariffs. Trump’s tariffs intend to be a stimulus for shifting to American production of goods, away from the increasing dependence on imports. Globalization, like all other trends, has a peak which cannot be sustained because it atrophies production of goods in the importing countries. A case in point is High Point, NC, which was once the center of US furniture manufacture, but has been reduced to a couple of extensive showrooms for imports, mostly from Asia, and some 20,000 skilled US workers became unemployed,
Trump’s Import Taxes, aka Tariffs are as clueless as they are dangerous.
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What’s your alternative and why?
People forget or plain don’t know (or care) that other countries have higher tariffs on US goods,
Some of the countries that will fight back will lose.
DC, again. Just passed on by
Anyone wonder why Boeing uses Dassault Systèmes CATIA to design their planes? It was an offset for the French AWACS.
Still loving my kettlebells.
I follow Pavel’s “Simple and Sinister” routine:
10x Single or Double Swings
10x Turkish Get-Ups (alternating sides)
Pavel advises against exercising too long or too hard. I can get through my S&S in about 20-25 minutes.
I’m stronger now than I was at 25 — admittedly a low bar.
Well, everyone needs a hobby, and if you have that kind of free time four hours’ exercise a day is not the worst thing you could do, but I think you’d have to like exercise in itself, or be a professional. Most of us exercise, if we do, to keep fit, not because we like it.
As for the morbidly obese, there is no exercise that does them as much good as pushing their plate away. To burn off the 269 calories in one medium glazed donut, you need to run for about 20 minutes if you are 180 pounds.
And if you are morbidly obese you are burning far more calories than normal weight people because body fat is not passive storage. If you don’t exercise at all, a rough guide is ten calories burned per pound of weight. Someone who weighs 300 pounds and doesn’t exercise is consuming something like 3000 calories per day. If they could somehow stick to 2000 per day, they’d lose a hundred pounds eventually, even if they did nothing else.
The people you see on the news who have to be taken out of their houses through the wall, are not cooking for themselves. There’s a “feeder” who lives with them and is helping them maintain that enormous weight.
The UK is a net importer of US goods, and the amount at issue is a tiny fraction of the UK economy.
2024 UK exports to the US were about $80 billion (importing about $70 billion from the US), and the UK GDP is about $3.7 trillion. I would express this ratio as jack / squat (fine it’s about 2%), and advise folks in the UK to unbunch their panties (or knickers or whatever), and remind them that legacy media sells fear.
For what it’s worth I am convinced all the protectionist arguments for tariffs are mathematically wrong; they’re a tax like any other. But I don’t think the tariffs will do the US much harm and I think it may incent more protectionist countries into free trade direction, which is better for everyone, them and us. It’s only the connected who benefit economically from tariffs.
Cicero you may find this helpful – courtesy of the FT.
Top UK Exports Globally (2024):
1. Cars: Approximately £32.9 billion. ?
2. Mechanical Power Generators (Intermediate): Approximately £32.7 billion.
3. Medicinal and Pharmaceutical Products: Approximately £24.4 billion. ?
4. Crude Oil: Approximately £16.4 billion.
5. Aircraft: Approximately £12.6 billion. ?
Top UK Exports to the United States (Four Quarters to End of Q4 2024):
1. Cars: £9.0 billion. ?
2. Medicinal and Pharmaceutical Products: £6.5 billion. ?
3. Mechanical Power Generators (Intermediate): £4.6 billion.
4. Scientific Instruments (Capital): £2.4 billion. ?
5. Aircraft: £2.2 billion
But this doesn’t include services. Which are much bigger.
Niketas-
A pound of fat burns about 2 calories per day, a pound of muscle (at rest) burns 6. An obese person with 100 lb of excess fat will burn 200 cal/day just maintaining the fat, less than a decent cookie. Building some muscle does help with weight loss but you are totally correct that the most useful activity is putting the fork down and pushing oneself away from the table.
Another useful number to remember is that a pound of fat contains 3500 calories, so running a 500 calorie/day deficit will lose a pound of fat per week, other things being equal.
they really do seem to be steering themselves into a larger ditch,
“What’s your alternative and why?”
You are too funny, AD, asking this of a confirmed troll.
It’s always good for a laugh when leftists complain about the stock market going down.
Let me add my thanks to David Foster, hereafter “the good David,” and note, Kate, you haven’t seen tariff hysteria until you’ve seen Australian media in the midst of an Australian election campaign.
Someone needs a Xanax and a nap.
I’m continually surprised by how short our collective memory is. Simple Google searches can bring all this stuff back in seconds.
Maybe something we can all try to do: when we read something in the legacy media, let’s assume they were recently saying the opposite and take 30 seconds to search for that. Other search engines if you don’t trust Google.
Quote below is not Trump. It’s Janet Yellen, from April 8 2024, when she was Treasury Secretary for Joe Biden.
“I wouldn’t rule out anything out at this point. We need to keep everything on the table. We want to work with the Chinese to see if we can find a solution,” she said in an interview with CNBC’s Sara Eisen, when asking about the possibility of Washington imposing tariffs if China does not adjust its approach to industry incentives.
“I’m not thinking so much of export restrictions, as some shifts in their macroeconomic policy, and a reduction in the amount of, particularly local government subsidies, to firms,” Yellen said.
She nevertheless stressed the need to create a level playing field in the green technology space.
“We just want to make sure that we’re not driven out of business, and that our firms and workers have opportunities in these industries which will be important ones in our future,” she added.
She’s talking like a “fair trade” mouthbreather and nobody said a word about the disaster she was setting us up for, or how economically illiterate she is, did they? No big thinkpieces on Smoot-Hawley came out, did they?
Four hours a day of vigorous exercise is obsessive and not necessary to maintain good health and fitness.
I follow a fitness guy who says you can maintain good fitness with around two 30-minute workouts a week (weights, not cardio). (I find three is better, but two can be adequate.) The workouts are intense (try to do reps until failure or near failure if possible and safe), but I’ve stayed in good shape. I also play tennis (mostly singles) several times/week, more for fun but also keeps me fit and slim. Going on 65 and have had no injuries of any consequence over many years since on this routine.
Lots of bilge water being served up today (as usual).
And here I thought this garbage was OVER, FINISHED, DONE WITH…
Hope that Trump/Bondi will bring a howitzer to these rapier-ists.
Free trade is best for everyone “in principle”. But in reality most countries try to foster their own industries and economies, including “good guy” allies like Western Europe, Japan, the Asian tigers and Israel. I saw this when I worked in the electronics industry.
Trump is just trying to do the same thing for the US through tariffs. Are they “retaliatory” or just bargaining chips? We’ll see. If there is a better way I’d like to hear about it.
@FOAF: in reality most countries try to foster their own industries and economies
“most countries set up rules to favor rackets that the connected benefit from” is how I would put it. That’s why so many foreigners come here and start businesses. How far would Musk have got in South Africa?
The US is not entirely free from rackets, but its enormous wealth is largely due to keeping the parasite load down, though we’ve been getting less good at that.
This explanation might help (if only I could understand it)…. It certainly seems to be cogent and comprehensive and, taking the long view, puts “things” in perspective.
https://youtu.be/64MWNyrzA2A
== You are too funny, AD, asking this of a confirmed troll.
==
Wouldn’t say troll. I do hear the voice of Cousin Cedric at 14:00 et seq.
The men in women’s sports stops when the women start suing for civil rights violations because that is what they are.
The men in women’s sports stops when the women start suing for civil rights violations because that is what they are.
==
The Pritzikers have sent out the bat signal to the Democratic operatives in robes.
I’m 73, a little bit athletic, a little bit fat, and I don’t care. What worries is that I don’t much like women my own age. Oh well, there’s alway’s basketball, beer, polititics, and old movies. Too bad my dog just died. Tears are gonna come.
@ Barry > “Fury after female fencer is disqualified for refusing to compete against trans competitor:”
In line with the topic du jour: an hour of fencing a day will definitely burn fat and tone muscles. How do I know? That was my college sport.
Admittedly, I was terrible at it: too short and too slow. I improved the second after a few years, but the first was not susceptible of remedy.
Our “team” was co-ed, and we practiced that way, doing pre-set routines of parry and thrust to learn the moves. We had to do co-ed bouts because we didn’t have many participants, but the only woman who could sometimes beat the guys was an Olympic hopeful in training (we were the only game in town, and our coach was really good).
She was also very tall and very fast.
There is no way we would have engaged in mixed-sex competitions.
Which is what including “transwomen” becomes.
Anyone claiming otherwise is demented or lying.
(There aren’t really teams in fencing; it’s a very individual sport. There are groups who train together under the same sponsorship/college/logo, and that’s about it.)
Lots of “Now it Can Be Told” stories, starting with Decent Joe’s dementia-addled “Presidency”…. https://instapundit.com/712431/
We don’t need more turnout, we need real results. We need integrity in the system. We need no mail-in ballots. We need to get rid of the voting machines. We need to limit the early voting period, and especially limit the late counting period – no counting after election day.
(One thing you can say about Trump’s: He has single-handedly reinvigorated Canadian patriotism!)
Moreover this “despair” about “losing an old ally” narrative sure seems to have caught the imagination of the Corrupt Global Media!
“After Trump’s broad tariffs, Europe reels from the loss of an old ally”— https://archive.md/Tf9kq
”There is no way we would have engaged in mixed-sex competitions.”
That surprises me. I would have thought fencing would be one of the few sports in which women could compete with men on an equal footing. Maybe even be on average a little bit better due to quickness, as opposed to fighting with a broadsword with which the average man could just overpower the average woman.
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This guy is contributing to the poisonous and just plain cruel concept that people who are morbidly obese and chronically ill with diabetes and sore joints can improve their health and well-being with hard work and self discipline.
Shame on him.
I work out several times per week, for about 2 hours each time. I’m a decade older than him. I’m far less ripped than him, but in much better shape than most 70+ people. Maybe a dose-response relationship?
My former next door neighbor was the healthiest guy I knew. He was an emergency room doc. Ran every day. Died on his kitchen floor from an aneurysm at 71. Emergency room nurse wife was in attendance.
Four hours a day of vigorous exercise is obsessive and not necessary to maintain good health and fitness.
Some notes on Tariffs:
https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/73683.html
…I may add more later today
Well, morbidly obese people can indeed benefit from exercise. Four vigorous hours a day is too much for most people, even those in good physical condition. The morbidly obese, barring unusual medical conditions, could dramatically improve their overall health by severely restricting sugar and white flour products from their diets. Adding resistant starches in place of the sugar and white flour and eating enough protein would also help.
Thanks, David Foster. The tariff hysteria is overdone, in my opinion, and I think the markets will settle down.
Trump’s Import Taxes, aka Tariffs are as clueless as they are dangerous.
Can anyone explain to me why the UK has been hit with a 10% tax on anything we export to the USA and what benefit this has to the US or UK?
For the benefit of clarity here are the UK tariffs on some of the most heavily imported US products.
1. Crude Oil
• Value: £8.5 billion
• UK Tariff: 0%
2. Natural Gas
• Value: £6.6 billion
• UK Tariff: 0%
3. Turbines & Power Generators
• Value: £5.5 billion
• UK Tariff: Generally 0%, but some components may incur tariffs up to 2% depending on their classification.
4. Pharmaceuticals
• Value: £3.8 billion
• UK Tariff: 0%
5. Refined Oil Products
• Value: £3.4 billion
• UK Tariff: 0%
6. Aircraft
• Value: £3.1 billion
• UK Tariff: 0%
7. Cars
• Value: £1.5 billion
• UK Tariff: 10%
8. Organic Chemicals
• Value: £1.2 billion
• UK Tariff: Tariffs can range up to 6.5%, depending on the specific chemical.
9. Scientific Instruments
• Value: £1.1 billion
• UK Tariff: 0%
10. Telecom Equipment
• Value: £900 million
• UK Tariff: 0%
These figures are based on data from the UK’s Office for National Statistics for the year 2023.
And now I am 64 I will not be worrying about my appearance to the extent of wasting four hours a day in a gym.
It strikes me the UK must, repeat must, now live on imports, except for cars and organic chemicals, per David Clayton’s useful list @ 1:29 today, because Britain is industrially dying, and must import to survive, thus cannot afford to levy tariffs. Trump’s tariffs intend to be a stimulus for shifting to American production of goods, away from the increasing dependence on imports. Globalization, like all other trends, has a peak which cannot be sustained because it atrophies production of goods in the importing countries. A case in point is High Point, NC, which was once the center of US furniture manufacture, but has been reduced to a couple of extensive showrooms for imports, mostly from Asia, and some 20,000 skilled US workers became unemployed,
a little integrity is that too much to ask,,
https://twitchy.com/dougp/2025/04/03/did-the-media-serve-up-takes-like-these-when-the-stock-market-dropped-during-the-biden-years-n2410900
Trump’s Import Taxes, aka Tariffs are as clueless as they are dangerous.
==
What’s your alternative and why?
People forget or plain don’t know (or care) that other countries have higher tariffs on US goods,
Some of the countries that will fight back will lose.
DC, again. Just passed on by
Anyone wonder why Boeing uses Dassault Systèmes CATIA to design their planes? It was an offset for the French AWACS.
Still loving my kettlebells.
I follow Pavel’s “Simple and Sinister” routine:
10x Single or Double Swings
10x Turkish Get-Ups (alternating sides)
Pavel advises against exercising too long or too hard. I can get through my S&S in about 20-25 minutes.
I’m stronger now than I was at 25 — admittedly a low bar.
–Joe Rogan, “Pavel Tsatsouline: Building Endurance the Right Way”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii845pDRC2c
Well, everyone needs a hobby, and if you have that kind of free time four hours’ exercise a day is not the worst thing you could do, but I think you’d have to like exercise in itself, or be a professional. Most of us exercise, if we do, to keep fit, not because we like it.
As for the morbidly obese, there is no exercise that does them as much good as pushing their plate away. To burn off the 269 calories in one medium glazed donut, you need to run for about 20 minutes if you are 180 pounds.
And if you are morbidly obese you are burning far more calories than normal weight people because body fat is not passive storage. If you don’t exercise at all, a rough guide is ten calories burned per pound of weight. Someone who weighs 300 pounds and doesn’t exercise is consuming something like 3000 calories per day. If they could somehow stick to 2000 per day, they’d lose a hundred pounds eventually, even if they did nothing else.
The people you see on the news who have to be taken out of their houses through the wall, are not cooking for themselves. There’s a “feeder” who lives with them and is helping them maintain that enormous weight.
The UK is a net importer of US goods, and the amount at issue is a tiny fraction of the UK economy.
2024 UK exports to the US were about $80 billion (importing about $70 billion from the US), and the UK GDP is about $3.7 trillion. I would express this ratio as jack / squat (fine it’s about 2%), and advise folks in the UK to unbunch their panties (or knickers or whatever), and remind them that legacy media sells fear.
For what it’s worth I am convinced all the protectionist arguments for tariffs are mathematically wrong; they’re a tax like any other. But I don’t think the tariffs will do the US much harm and I think it may incent more protectionist countries into free trade direction, which is better for everyone, them and us. It’s only the connected who benefit economically from tariffs.
Cicero you may find this helpful – courtesy of the FT.
Top UK Exports Globally (2024):
1. Cars: Approximately £32.9 billion. ?
2. Mechanical Power Generators (Intermediate): Approximately £32.7 billion.
3. Medicinal and Pharmaceutical Products: Approximately £24.4 billion. ?
4. Crude Oil: Approximately £16.4 billion.
5. Aircraft: Approximately £12.6 billion. ?
Top UK Exports to the United States (Four Quarters to End of Q4 2024):
1. Cars: £9.0 billion. ?
2. Medicinal and Pharmaceutical Products: £6.5 billion. ?
3. Mechanical Power Generators (Intermediate): £4.6 billion.
4. Scientific Instruments (Capital): £2.4 billion. ?
5. Aircraft: £2.2 billion
But this doesn’t include services. Which are much bigger.
Niketas-
A pound of fat burns about 2 calories per day, a pound of muscle (at rest) burns 6. An obese person with 100 lb of excess fat will burn 200 cal/day just maintaining the fat, less than a decent cookie. Building some muscle does help with weight loss but you are totally correct that the most useful activity is putting the fork down and pushing oneself away from the table.
Another useful number to remember is that a pound of fat contains 3500 calories, so running a 500 calorie/day deficit will lose a pound of fat per week, other things being equal.
ok then,
https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/04/nyc-mayor-eric-adams-running-as-independent-in-next-election/
they really do seem to be steering themselves into a larger ditch,
“What’s your alternative and why?”
You are too funny, AD, asking this of a confirmed troll.
It’s always good for a laugh when leftists complain about the stock market going down.
Let me add my thanks to David Foster, hereafter “the good David,” and note, Kate, you haven’t seen tariff hysteria until you’ve seen Australian media in the midst of an Australian election campaign.
Someone needs a Xanax and a nap.
During the Biden Administration the media didn’t freak out about tariffs or indeed notice. Janet Yellen said “nothing to worry about”. In fact she advocated for them herself, just about one year ago.
I’m continually surprised by how short our collective memory is. Simple Google searches can bring all this stuff back in seconds.
Maybe something we can all try to do: when we read something in the legacy media, let’s assume they were recently saying the opposite and take 30 seconds to search for that. Other search engines if you don’t trust Google.
Quote below is not Trump. It’s Janet Yellen, from April 8 2024, when she was Treasury Secretary for Joe Biden.
She’s talking like a “fair trade” mouthbreather and nobody said a word about the disaster she was setting us up for, or how economically illiterate she is, did they? No big thinkpieces on Smoot-Hawley came out, did they?
Four hours a day of vigorous exercise is obsessive and not necessary to maintain good health and fitness.
I follow a fitness guy who says you can maintain good fitness with around two 30-minute workouts a week (weights, not cardio). (I find three is better, but two can be adequate.) The workouts are intense (try to do reps until failure or near failure if possible and safe), but I’ve stayed in good shape. I also play tennis (mostly singles) several times/week, more for fun but also keeps me fit and slim. Going on 65 and have had no injuries of any consequence over many years since on this routine.
Lots of bilge water being served up today (as usual).
But this may take the cake:
“Fury after female fencer is disqualified for refusing to compete against trans competitor: ‘I’m sorry, I cannot do this’”—
https://nypost.com/2025/04/03/us-news/fury-after-female-fencer-is-disqualified-for-refusing-to-compete-against-trans-competitor/
And here I thought this garbage was OVER, FINISHED, DONE WITH…
Hope that Trump/Bondi will bring a howitzer to these rapier-ists.
Free trade is best for everyone “in principle”. But in reality most countries try to foster their own industries and economies, including “good guy” allies like Western Europe, Japan, the Asian tigers and Israel. I saw this when I worked in the electronics industry.
Trump is just trying to do the same thing for the US through tariffs. Are they “retaliatory” or just bargaining chips? We’ll see. If there is a better way I’d like to hear about it.
@FOAF: in reality most countries try to foster their own industries and economies
“most countries set up rules to favor rackets that the connected benefit from” is how I would put it. That’s why so many foreigners come here and start businesses. How far would Musk have got in South Africa?
The US is not entirely free from rackets, but its enormous wealth is largely due to keeping the parasite load down, though we’ve been getting less good at that.
This explanation might help (if only I could understand it)…. It certainly seems to be cogent and comprehensive and, taking the long view, puts “things” in perspective.
“This Trump Shock Is A Reverse Nixon”—
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/trump-shock-reverse-nixon
https://youtu.be/64MWNyrzA2A
==
You are too funny, AD, asking this of a confirmed troll.
==
Wouldn’t say troll. I do hear the voice of Cousin Cedric at 14:00 et seq.
The men in women’s sports stops when the women start suing for civil rights violations because that is what they are.
The men in women’s sports stops when the women start suing for civil rights violations because that is what they are.
==
The Pritzikers have sent out the bat signal to the Democratic operatives in robes.
I’m 73, a little bit athletic, a little bit fat, and I don’t care. What worries is that I don’t much like women my own age. Oh well, there’s alway’s basketball, beer, polititics, and old movies. Too bad my dog just died. Tears are gonna come.
@ Barry > “Fury after female fencer is disqualified for refusing to compete against trans competitor:”
In line with the topic du jour: an hour of fencing a day will definitely burn fat and tone muscles. How do I know? That was my college sport.
Admittedly, I was terrible at it: too short and too slow. I improved the second after a few years, but the first was not susceptible of remedy.
Our “team” was co-ed, and we practiced that way, doing pre-set routines of parry and thrust to learn the moves. We had to do co-ed bouts because we didn’t have many participants, but the only woman who could sometimes beat the guys was an Olympic hopeful in training (we were the only game in town, and our coach was really good).
She was also very tall and very fast.
There is no way we would have engaged in mixed-sex competitions.
Which is what including “transwomen” becomes.
Anyone claiming otherwise is demented or lying.
(There aren’t really teams in fencing; it’s a very individual sport. There are groups who train together under the same sponsorship/college/logo, and that’s about it.)
Lots of “Now it Can Be Told” stories, starting with Decent Joe’s dementia-addled “Presidency”….
https://instapundit.com/712431/
Here’s another, regarding—GASP!!—electoral fraud in the Keystone State:
https://instapundit.com/712363/
Key phrase:
– – – – – – – – –
And then, up in Canada…speaking from both sides of the mouth…
1.
“Old US-Canada relationship is ‘over,’ warns Canadian prime minister”—
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/27/americas/canada-trump-tariffs-response-latam-intl/index.html
2. BUT…Oopsie…
“Canadian PM Mark Carney says US remains strategic ally despite new tariffs”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU6pudXq65I
+ Bonus
“Kevin O’Leary Slams Canada’s ‘Sheer Stupidity’ in Trade Standoff With Trump”—
https://blazingcatfur.ca/2025/04/03/kevin-oleary-slams-canadas-sheer-stupidity-in-trade-standoff-with-trump/
(One thing you can say about Trump’s: He has single-handedly reinvigorated Canadian patriotism!)
Moreover this “despair” about “losing an old ally” narrative sure seems to have caught the imagination of the Corrupt Global Media!
“After Trump’s broad tariffs, Europe reels from the loss of an old ally”—
https://archive.md/Tf9kq
”There is no way we would have engaged in mixed-sex competitions.”
That surprises me. I would have thought fencing would be one of the few sports in which women could compete with men on an equal footing. Maybe even be on average a little bit better due to quickness, as opposed to fighting with a broadsword with which the average man could just overpower the average woman.