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  1. In re: #3 — much speculation is being made that the signal chat messages read like PR releases, not people speaking to each other, and that the reporter got deliberately added so that he could “leak” administration messaging into left-wing media to increase its reach.

  2. a former?? lawyer for Covington and Burling (Holder’s firm) added him to the chat

  3. The moderate wing of the Dems have been discontented for a long time.

    But for the last several years, the Dem base has been happier with their politicians than the GOP base, because the Party policies reflected base priorities better than the GOP.

    It was almost a cliche that the GOP voters would turn out over social issues and nationalism and traditionalism, and the GOP would then govern in the interest of the business class. The frustration over that tendency was already visible in 1992, it drove much of the Perot phenomenon, and it just kept building up until it blasted out in 2016.

    But even after 2016, the Dems and the GOPe in alliance were able to block most of what the GOP base wanted, even though Trump was actually trying to do it.

    Now, though, suddenly it’s happening. A lot of stuff that is absolute _anathema_ to the Dem base is happening or looks to be about to happen, and the Dems, while they’re willing to fight it, are mostly powerless. Their base is used to getting what they want, and they don’t want to hear about rules or votes in the chamber, they want Trump _stopped_ . NOW. But the Dem politicians can’t do it, not right now, anyway.

    That’s the trap Schumer is in. He’s many things, but none of them are stupid. Giving in the CR was probably the least bad move, from a Dem tactical position, because Trump was positioned to benefit _either way_ . In that situation, the best you can do is choose the lesser evil.

    But the progressive activists and hard-core base voters don’t want to hear about that, they want to know how he’s shutting down Trump. So he, or whoever replaces him if he goes down, has to thread that needle.

  4. Re (5) – I see a lot of parallels between Democrats in 2024 and Republicans during the Obama years. If the Democrats’ base decides that it is not going to play ball with the folks in the party who actually want to win elections, I could easily see them start nominating candidates “who fight” and begin blowing winnable races. As someone who fears Josh Shapiro in 2028, I think that’s a generally positive development. Except, as we found out with Trump and the whole “binary choice” thing, the Trumpy candidates can actually win if the other side is awful enough. (President AOC, anyone?)

    I’ve always said that Obama broke the Republican party. He just stopped following the normal rules and playing the game the normal way, causing elements of the Republican party to demand crazier and crazier responses, and candidates who were willing to deliver them. Maybe Trump is doing the same thing to Democrats.

  5. the astroturfed rallies and the silly round robin with Sanders give away the ghost, he up and left the ABC studios when he was asked whether he would back AOC,
    of course he wouldn’t, despite the protestations otherwise,

    who would they replace him with anyways, Durbin, the duplicitous one,
    just a fish of another kettle,

    I suppose they could replace him with the Loathsome Warnock, but would they really,

  6. But if you add up the more leftist and stay the same versus more moderate, you get a roughly equal split.

    Sounds like a real pickle. That’s a shame.

  7. So we will have another congressional hearing on ……….whatever.
    The results never vary; nobody is ever indicted or prosecuted and the most severe “punishment” meted out is somebody , maybe, gets censured.

    Getting censured means that enough members of Congress are pissed off at someone, but the individual censured either keeps his/her job or retires (with full benefits and pension) .

    Oh yeah, I forgot; congressional hearings produce voluminous reports that nobody reads.

    Now there may be upcoming some hearings on these federal district court judges who have claimed for themselves the authority of the president of the USA and have blocked/delayed Trump’s agenda. I assume it will be the dumbpublicans that will arrange these hearings.

    It will be a total waste of time because what really needs to be done is Congress needs to either remove these judges or issue legislation enumerating precisely what authority federal district judges have and what authority they do not have.
    The republicans need to play hardball over this issue and hearings will accomplish nothing at all.

    In less than two years or so there will be the midterm elections that historically have favored the party out of power. The republicans have got to be far more aggressive and decisive right now to get Trump’s agenda enacted, and holding hearings is not going to cut it; it will be a total waste of time.

  8. Most of the Dems in Congress are not there because they are ideologues, they’re there to appropriate on behalf of their cronies. But they’re more used to having majorities, and so they haven’t yet mastered the GOPe art of extracting the maximum possible appropriations out of minority obstruction.

  9. Neo asked:
    How on earth did Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg get included in a Signal chat?

    Babylon Bee answered:
    4D Chess: Genius Trump Leaks War Plans To ‘The Atlantic’ Where No One Will Ever See Them (https://tinyurl.com/2pky6m2k).

  10. I feel for the hostages but can’t even imagine their words are coming without a AK-47 pointed at them

  11. I’ve always said that Obama broke the Republican party. He just stopped following the normal rules and playing the game the normal way, causing elements of the Republican party to demand crazier and crazier responses,
    ==
    Thanks for the fantasy. We’re all enlightened.

  12. The thing about moderate Democrats is that they’re moderate, and moderate people are generally disinclined to burn car dealerships or police stations, or shout down speakers, or any of the other behaviors that appeal to the left.

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