Stuff looks ghastly. They’re trying to persuade these chaps that British cuisine is not so bad after all.
Reminds me of the video Youtube chef Joshua Weissman did a few months back comparing the best sandwiches around the world.
Culinary terrorism is a thing
I think some of this stuff, is food on a dare, maybe some of this is good,
Re Mary Beard, a sort of social historian of Rome, referenced in a previous thread, well she got on my bad side in a screed she wrote as the fires were still burning on the towers, but the notion there would be North African in 1st Century Britain was patently ridiculous,
The default setting should be to avoid mixing meat, starch, vegetation, and dairy. Separate on your plate. Butter on vegetables or potatoes would be an exception. Bleu cheese and bacon bits on salad would be an exception. Mac and cheese would be an exception. Sandwiches would be an exception. Stews would be an exception. Please note that mac-and-cheese is the only exception you might bake.
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Another rule would be to be sparing with anything sweet. Ice cream, cookies, pastries, pie, egg nog. Occasionals, not regular things.
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Another rule would be to be cautious about sauces and gravies and avoid them on vegetables.
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Another rule would be to be vary sparing with garlic and onions.
These people paid for a plane ticket from across the pond. Feeding them meatloaf is a crime. Feeding anyone meatloaf is an act of aggression. Ditto tuna fish.
Hey, I happen to really like meatloaf, provided it’s prepared to my liking.
That tuna casserole looks like a war crime though.
@miguel cervantes:the notion there would be North African in 1st Century Britain was patently ridiculous,
One or two there at various times isn’t ridiculous. Pretending that, because one or two showed up there at various times, the Roman Empire and specifically Roman Britain were “ethnically diverse” in the modern sense, is simply lying.
But there’s probably no time in the written history of the British Isles when no black people whatever weren’t there somewhere. A few people get around. The first Chinese known to have been in Britain was there in 1685. The first Chinese person to live there permanently came in 1779. But it would be wrong to make a documentary of 17th or 18th century Britain and focus it on a Chinese family as though they were typical or common.
@Art Deco:These people paid for a plane ticket from across the pond. Feeding them meatloaf is a crime.
Well, this clickbait stuff is how those Brits make their money, so they probably were delighted. They paid a lot for the production and marketing of their video, because they expect a positive return…
We’re Josh and Ollie, and we’re very Jolly 😀
On this channel you’ll find two best friends who get to travel the world together trying new food and introducing that food to friends back at home.
I often wonder how far afield some individuals or small groups of intrepid travelers from far flung lands would end up in the ancient world. For example, it wouldn’t be surprising to me if some individual pirate, slave, or wayword trader/merchant who was born in say, China ended up traveling to the British isles far earlier than the 17th century. Perhaps some poor sod was taken prisoner and enthralled in a viking raid somewhere in Eurasia or North Africa who was in the midst of some other errand that took him far across the silk road or something. Who can say? Lot’s of stuff happened and very little of it was necessarily ever written down.
But there’s probably no time in the written history of the British Isles when no black people whatever weren’t there somewhere.
Sorry, but I think you’re dead wrong about that.
The video is fabulous.
I was surprised that the “chef” hadn’t ever tried the tater-tot casserole. I grew up with much of that style of food. Especially during pot-luck affairs.
With my parent’s generation, there was a great deal of physical labor involved in maintaining a small soup-to-nuts farming operation. Feeding, tending, milking live stock and various crop tasks including a large garden. My mother’s family farm had an apple orchard. The point being is that people had a huge calorie intake because they burned it during the day. Nowadays, there is almost no muscular labor involved and exceedingly few farms are soup-to-nuts operations. Half or most Midwesterners are obese. Oops. Though no one in my family.
@Nonapod:I often wonder how far afield some individuals or small groups of intrepid travelers from far flung lands would end up in the ancient world.
Either Marcus Aurelius or his predecessor Antoninus Pius sent a Roman ambassador to China in 166. The Byzantine Empire (called in China “Fulin”) is first known to have sent one in 684.
In the year 97 China sent an ambassador to the Roman Empire (called in China “Daqin”), who was unable to reach it.
Very few people traveled the entire Silk Road but it did happen.
@IrishOtter49:Sorry, but I think you’re dead wrong about that.
Not even one? Good luck showing that. The Emperor Septimius Severus–who was himself born in Africa–met a black soldier at Hadrian’s Wall in the year 210. The skeleton of one living in England in the Middle Ages sometime between 800 and 1100 was dug up in 2013. From the reign of Henry VIII onward you’re going to find them there in every time period.
I’m not saying they were common, on the contrary, that they were extremely rare.
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Glenn Reynolds coins a phrase which I think should stick. He calls the bureaucrat/non-profit/NGO complex the “parasite class.”
https://nypost.com/2025/03/12/opinion/trump-is-deworming-dc-now-keep-the-parasites-out-for-good/
Stuff looks ghastly. They’re trying to persuade these chaps that British cuisine is not so bad after all.
Reminds me of the video Youtube chef Joshua Weissman did a few months back comparing the best sandwiches around the world.
Culinary terrorism is a thing
I think some of this stuff, is food on a dare, maybe some of this is good,
Re Mary Beard, a sort of social historian of Rome, referenced in a previous thread, well she got on my bad side in a screed she wrote as the fires were still burning on the towers, but the notion there would be North African in 1st Century Britain was patently ridiculous,
The default setting should be to avoid mixing meat, starch, vegetation, and dairy. Separate on your plate. Butter on vegetables or potatoes would be an exception. Bleu cheese and bacon bits on salad would be an exception. Mac and cheese would be an exception. Sandwiches would be an exception. Stews would be an exception. Please note that mac-and-cheese is the only exception you might bake.
==
Another rule would be to be sparing with anything sweet. Ice cream, cookies, pastries, pie, egg nog. Occasionals, not regular things.
==
Another rule would be to be cautious about sauces and gravies and avoid them on vegetables.
==
Another rule would be to be vary sparing with garlic and onions.
These people paid for a plane ticket from across the pond. Feeding them meatloaf is a crime. Feeding anyone meatloaf is an act of aggression. Ditto tuna fish.
Hey, I happen to really like meatloaf, provided it’s prepared to my liking.
That tuna casserole looks like a war crime though.
@miguel cervantes:the notion there would be North African in 1st Century Britain was patently ridiculous,
One or two there at various times isn’t ridiculous. Pretending that, because one or two showed up there at various times, the Roman Empire and specifically Roman Britain were “ethnically diverse” in the modern sense, is simply lying.
But there’s probably no time in the written history of the British Isles when no black people whatever weren’t there somewhere. A few people get around. The first Chinese known to have been in Britain was there in 1685. The first Chinese person to live there permanently came in 1779. But it would be wrong to make a documentary of 17th or 18th century Britain and focus it on a Chinese family as though they were typical or common.
@Art Deco:These people paid for a plane ticket from across the pond. Feeding them meatloaf is a crime.
Well, this clickbait stuff is how those Brits make their money, so they probably were delighted. They paid a lot for the production and marketing of their video, because they expect a positive return…
I often wonder how far afield some individuals or small groups of intrepid travelers from far flung lands would end up in the ancient world. For example, it wouldn’t be surprising to me if some individual pirate, slave, or wayword trader/merchant who was born in say, China ended up traveling to the British isles far earlier than the 17th century. Perhaps some poor sod was taken prisoner and enthralled in a viking raid somewhere in Eurasia or North Africa who was in the midst of some other errand that took him far across the silk road or something. Who can say? Lot’s of stuff happened and very little of it was necessarily ever written down.
But there’s probably no time in the written history of the British Isles when no black people whatever weren’t there somewhere.
Sorry, but I think you’re dead wrong about that.
The video is fabulous.
I was surprised that the “chef” hadn’t ever tried the tater-tot casserole. I grew up with much of that style of food. Especially during pot-luck affairs.
With my parent’s generation, there was a great deal of physical labor involved in maintaining a small soup-to-nuts farming operation. Feeding, tending, milking live stock and various crop tasks including a large garden. My mother’s family farm had an apple orchard. The point being is that people had a huge calorie intake because they burned it during the day. Nowadays, there is almost no muscular labor involved and exceedingly few farms are soup-to-nuts operations. Half or most Midwesterners are obese. Oops. Though no one in my family.
@Nonapod:I often wonder how far afield some individuals or small groups of intrepid travelers from far flung lands would end up in the ancient world.
Either Marcus Aurelius or his predecessor Antoninus Pius sent a Roman ambassador to China in 166. The Byzantine Empire (called in China “Fulin”) is first known to have sent one in 684.
In the year 97 China sent an ambassador to the Roman Empire (called in China “Daqin”), who was unable to reach it.
Very few people traveled the entire Silk Road but it did happen.
There were Greek kingdoms in India which adopted Buddhism early and spread it to China. The Chinese called them “Yuan”. Consequently Buddhist art in Japan depicts Buddha guarded by Hercules and with wine grapes.
@IrishOtter49:Sorry, but I think you’re dead wrong about that.
Not even one? Good luck showing that. The Emperor Septimius Severus–who was himself born in Africa–met a black soldier at Hadrian’s Wall in the year 210. The skeleton of one living in England in the Middle Ages sometime between 800 and 1100 was dug up in 2013. From the reign of Henry VIII onward you’re going to find them there in every time period.
I’m not saying they were common, on the contrary, that they were extremely rare.