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  1. Don’t know much about Greenland, but its story is likely similar to Iceland’s, both being Danish colonies at the outbreak of WWII. (Hard to imagine Denmark having colonies but it did and still does. The Icelanders, it should be said were not terribly fond of the Danes.)

    WRT Iceland, I don’t believe the US actually took it over but rather they were “given” it by the Brits to administer after the latter occupied it following Hitler’s 1940 conquest of Denmark. The reason of course was that the Brits didn’t want the Nazis to take control of it.
    This handover would have occurred at some point after the US entered the war, perhaps 1942 or afterwards.

    Iceland (and I presume the same is true of Greenland) was essential mostly because of its weather stations, which provided the Allies and the convoys in the “Battle of the Atlantic” with accurate forecasts, along with a string of other weather stations in the Maritime provinces and Newfoundland (at that time still under British control).

    These weather station forecasts played a huge role in the final decision to approve the Operation Overlord (D-Day) invasion during a slight but long-enough break in a spate of stormy weather on June 6, 1944.

    Following the war, an impoverished Iceland was granted its independence. Greenland remained a Danish colony, but that story could be taking an unexpected twist.

  2. 836,000 sq.miles in Greenland, with 0.1 person/sq.mi, though it’s not stipulated whether that’s volume-person, mass-person, psyche-person or whathaveyou.

  3. Following the war, an impoverished Iceland was granted its independence. Greenland remained a Danish colony, but that story could be taking an unexpected twist.
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    In 1950, the following countries had a per capita product exceeding Iceland’s:
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    United States
    New Zealand
    Luxembourg
    Australia
    Canada
    Switzerland
    Denmark
    Great Britain
    Sweden
    Netherlands
    Belgium
    Norway
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    The most affluent of the Scandinavian countries had a per capita product about 30% higher than Iceland’s.
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    Neither Greenland (population 23,000 in 1950) nor Iceland (population 141,000) were satisfactory candidates for formal sovereignty. One was more populous than the other by a factor of six and still is. I’ve not located satisfactory economic indicators on Greenland as it is a dependent territory. It appears to be heavily subsidized by Denmark. Iceland’s population is about 80% old Norse, about 18% other European, and < 2% Southeast Asian and East Indian. Greenland's population is about 90% aboriginal, 10% Scandinavian.

  4. IMO, the occidental powers should have retained their low census dependencies, performed certain services for them, and left them to their own devices on the remaining matters of public policy. There are 60-odd territories in this world with populations under 3,000,000. With few exceptions, these should be protectorates or dependencies. Some more populous territories should arguably be under trusteeships (Haiti, Somalia, components of Equatorial Africa).

  5. We have a history of making a hash of it supervising dependencies. Greenland is better off under Danish supervision.

  6. are we talking guam or puerto rico, there might be indigenous reasons for same,

  7. Greenland has far more ice than Iceland so there is that. The percentage of green land on Iceland is probably greater on Iceland than on Greenland. Someone else can provide the statistical breakout.

  8. are we talking guam or puerto rico, there might be indigenous reasons for same,
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    Not talking Guam in particular. Federal minimum wage laws damaged the labor market in a number of insular dependencies. So did Kennedy-Johnson welfare policy. The Virgin Islands is suffering Detroit levels of homicide. The Canal Zone was an artificial society.

  9. Greenland’s “Bluie West One” (Narssasuak I think, and I’ll get a handkerchief) is a fijord on the southwest coast with an airfield. It was important in ferrying longer range aircraft to the UK during the war.
    Next stop for gas might have been Iceland, depending on the range of the aircraft in question. Usually, the longer-range ones would follow a heavy bomber with its navigator.
    The “lost squadron” is a factor in creationist science,

    From what I’ve heard, the locals in Greenland aren’t that happy,
    with issues of suicide. Life is boring and with no likelihood of going anywhere in life.

    If Greenland had some kind of formal connection to the US, various issues having to do with security in the Arctic could be less contentious than if, say, Denmark still claimed sovereignty.

  10. The Dems will opt to shut down the govt. because it will give them more opportunity to hurl criticisms, invective’s and straight up lies about Trump.

    The democrat puppet / propaganda arm – the media – will go all out to broadcast anything and everything the demokrat party instructs them to promote.

    The demokrat plan is very straightforward and unbending; keep repeating the lies often enough until it becomes the truth. Every “new” policy Trump employs is just more ammo for the dems to attack.

    The Dems cannot wait to shut down the govt.

    The democrats could give a shite about the citizenry of this nation.. Their only goal is the attainment of absolute and PERMANENT power and they will use any and all means to achieve this.

  11. If Sununu runs in New Hampshire, he will win. If he wins, the Democrats chances of taking back the Senate (already slim) will be hovering just above zero.

    Sununu and Trump certainly have some bad blood but I do hope the President can see the big picture here.

  12. When Obama was President during a government shutdown he closed National Parks and Monuments, but he wasn’t lambasted for having done so, except by Republicans.
    Allegedly, the head honcho at USAID ordered all “sensitive” material to be shredded or burned. If true, how is that legal?
    Mayor Karen Bass of Los Angeles claimed her text messages between her and her staff were “auto-deleted”. She also claimed she wasn’t informed that high winds were expected before she left for Africa on a diplomatic foray. While there, Altadena and the Palisades were engulfed in a wind driven wildfire, that destroyed 20,000 structures and several people died.

  13. @neo:The USAID shredding story actually is not true.

    Could you unpack this a little, what exactly you are saying is not true? It’s not that I disbelieve you, it’s that I’m confused.

    According to your link, there really was an email that said to shred and burn classified documents, your link has screenshots of it.

    In a Tuesday email to staffers, USAID acting executive director Erica Carr had called for an “all day” effort to help destroy sensitive agency documents at the all-but-shuttered headquarters in Washington.

    “Trained USAID staff sorted and removed classified documents in order to clear the space formerly occupied by USAID for its new tenant. The removed classified documents had nothing to do with this litigation,” wrote DOJ trial attorney Michael Clendenen in a Wednesday filing in DC federal court.

    Those documents really were shredded and burned, according to your link:

    “They were copies of documents from other agencies or derivatively classified documents, where the originally classified document is retained by another government agency and for which there is no need for USAID to retain a copy,” Clendenen went on.

    “Any documents pertaining to current classified programs were retained, as were all personnel records and any document that must be retained under the Federal Records Act (FRA),” he said.

    The attorney added that USAID would also inform associations for foreign services officers and contractors who are suing the agency before destroying any more documents.

    If I understand right, it’s “not true” that USAID people were destroying documents with the intent to destroy evidence of something wrong. But they certainly, as far your link says, were ordered to destroy documents and indeed did so and some documents were indeed classified. There may be a narrative of sinister intent that’s not true, but the facts are true, from what I can tell.

  14. I dont see how its not true, just they are minimizing the impact, of what they have destroyed

  15. USAID shredding:
    “Any documents pertaining to current classified programs were retained, as were all personnel records and any document that must be retained under the Federal Records Act (FRA),” he said.

    Well that settles that, right?!

  16. Obama divorce:

    Michelle and her brother on a podcast supposedly dumping on Barack! Pretty weak tea like he doesn’t like to small talk with her girlfriends, or doesn’t dish on his golf buddies’ chitchat! Doesn’t “really like people”.

    OMG… it must be horrible to be her! Pfffft!

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