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  1. I have no idea what a gender is and I think it’s imaginary. I’ll explain. In1981 I went to Germany on a government contract. Since I didn’t speak German, I signed up to take German lessons and I was told that German nouns had gender, masculine, feminine or neuter and the gender was determined by the article. I said. well that’s nice, who assigns gender, how can you tell what noun has what gender and what does this gender do for me? I was basically told shut up, sit down and stop interrupting class. I never got a satisfactory explanation of gender. Ever worse, some of the nouns changed gender when their use changed, for instance when they changed from singular to plural. I asked how you kept track of those transgendered nouns. I was told to forget about it since it even confused the Germans. Now I’m being told that humans have gender and I’m asking what is the physical basis for this gender and nobody will tell me.

  2. THANK YOU trans mad billionaires named Pritzker for foisting this legal insanity upon us.

    A days old interview with Houston lawyer Marcella Burke who defends de-transitioners and sues for gender ideology malpractice is asked who is leading this trans madness?

    Opportunists and money machines at hospitals is a big one. Maje ’em pay $3 million in damages is her goal in Texas, and her 16 member law firm.

    But later, during W&A, Burke admits there is a frightening True Believer element among doctors, going by their social media postings

    There is not just a God Complex manifesting here, but a bizarre super God Complex here. They believe they are in the vanguard of creating new life, she explains.
    https://youtu.be/bnnkew7AYIc?

    Burke even raises the possibility of Nuremberg style trials against these evil fraudulent malpracticioners.

  3. THANK YOU trans mad billionaires named Pritzker for foisting this legal insanity upon us.

    A days old interview with Houston lawyer Marcella Burke who defends de-transitioners and sues for gender ideology malpractice is asked who is leading this trans madness?

    Opportunists and money machines at hospitals is a big one. Maje ’em pay $3 million in damages is her goal in Texas, and her 16 member law firm.

    But later, during W&A, Burke admits there is a frightening True Believer element among doctors, going by their social media postings

    There is not just a God Complex manifesting here, but a bizarre super God Complex here. They believe they are in the vanguard of creating new life, she explains.
    https://youtu.be/bnnkew7AYIc?

    Burke even raises the possibility of Nuremberg style trials against these evil fraudulent malpracticioners.

  4. Jennifer Bilek has done tremendous work exposing the massive funding behind the transgender insanity, from the Pritzkers and others, along with the transhumanist implications. Her work can be found here and you can find interviews with her on YouTube:

    https://www.the11thhourblog.com/

  5. These laws against “conversion therapy” nonetheless allow, or encourage, therapy intended to endorse a patient’s gender dysphoria, and they allow, or encourage, therapy intended to endorse a patient’s sexual orientation so long as it’s not an interest in the opposite sex.

  6. Oh, it gets better:

    Two Washington legislative committees recently advanced a pair of bills that aim to force priests in the state to violate the seal of Confession. Spokane, Washington, Bishop Thomas A. Daly is opposing the bills.

  7. To what extent can a therapist continue on the subject if the client wants to talk about it.

  8. @Ray:I said. well that’s nice, who assigns gender, how can you tell what noun has what gender and what does this gender do for me?

    It’s just a grammar rule. About 1/4 of all languages have it. It’s of no more rhyme or reason than why we say “isn’t” but don’t say “amn’t”. You just have to memorize gender or people look at you funny. A German cat is feminine, a German girl is neuter, a German cheese is masculine*.

    French and Spanish and Italian have it too. Hebrew has it. Irish has it. English doesn’t so we insist on trying to map it to “sex” and getting confused (why is a cat always feminine if we don’t know if it’s a tomcat). Academics have exploited this and created a concept of “gender” as “the expression of a sex role”, and conflated it with biological sex, quite deliberately.

    *die Katze, das Mädchen, der Käse. Most Germans in casual speech will not call a girl “it” though, at least according to my high school German text. Most of the feminine nouns end in -e except Käse, “cheese”, which is just being a jerk.

    The interested reader is referred to Mark Twain’s essay The Awful German Language:

    Every noun has a gender, and there is no sense or system in the distribution; so the gender of each must be learned separately and by heart. There is no other way. To do this one has to have a memory like a memorandum-book. In German, a young lady has no sex, while a turnip has. Think what overwrought reverence that shows for the turnip, and what callous disrespect for the girl. See how it looks in print–I translate this from a conversation in one of the best of the German Sunday-school books:

    “Gretchen. Wilhelm, where is the turnip?

    “Wilhelm. She has gone to the kitchen.

    “Gretchen. Where is the accomplished and beautiful English maiden?

    Wilhelm. It has gone to the opera.”

    To continue with the German genders: a tree is male, its buds are female, its leaves are neuter; horses are sexless, dogs are male, cats are female–tomcats included, of course; a person’s mouth, neck, bosom, elbows, fingers, nails, feet, and body are of the male sex, and his head is male or neuter according to the word selected to signify it, and NOT according to the sex of the individual who wears it–for in Germany all the women either male heads or sexless ones; a person’s nose, lips, shoulders, breast, hands, and toes are of the female sex; and his hair, ears, eyes, chin, legs, knees, heart, and conscience haven’t any sex at all. The inventor of the language probably got what he knew about a conscience from hearsay.

  9. I think Ray may have been kidding, but I really enjoyed Mark Twain on German. Thanks!

  10. Kate. He has a lengthy sentence/paragraph which is hilarious.
    “Throw the cow over the fence some hay,” ain’t the half of it.

  11. The fellow sitting across the desk from me in grad school selected German as his required foreign language. He said his teacher explained that Germans had to “reserve judgement” until the complete sentence was available to fully understand what had been said.
    What say those here?

  12. @R2L:What say those here?

    Humorous exaggeration of newspaper German, in my experience.

    Twain, from “Connecticut Yankee”:

    Whenever the literary German dives into a sentence, that is the last you are going to see of him till he emerges on the other side of his Atlantic with his verb in his mouth.

    From Twain, “The Awful German Language”:

    There are ten parts of speech, and they are all troublesome. An average sentence, in a German newspaper, is a sublime and impressive curiosity; it occupies a quarter of a column; it contains all the ten parts of speech–not in regular order, but mixed; it is built mainly of compound words constructed by the writer on the spot, and not to be found in any dictionary–six or seven words compacted into one, without joint or seam–that is, without hyphens; it treats of fourteen or fifteen different subjects, each enclosed in a parenthesis of its own, with here and there extra parentheses, making pens with pens: finally, all the parentheses and reparentheses are massed together between a couple of king-parentheses, one of which is placed in the first line of the majestic sentence and the other in the middle of the last line of it–AFTER WHICH COMES THE VERB, and you find out for the first time what the man has been talking about; and after the verb–merely by way of ornament, as far as I can make out–the writer shovels in “HABEN SIND GEWESEN GEHABT HAVEN GEWORDEN SEIN,” or words to that effect, and the monument is finished. I suppose that this closing hurrah is in the nature of the flourish to a man’s signature–not necessary, but pretty. German books are easy enough to read when you hold them before the looking-glass or stand on your head–so as to reverse the construction–but I think that to learn to read and understand a German newspaper is a thing which must always remain an impossibility to a foreigner.

    Yet even the German books are not entirely free from attacks of the Parenthesis distemper–though they are usually so mild as to cover only a few lines, and therefore when you at last get down to the verb it carries some meaning to your mind because you are able to remember a good deal of what has gone before. Now here is a sentence from a popular and excellent German novel–which a slight parenthesis in it. I will make a perfectly literal translation, and throw in the parenthesis-marks and some hyphens for the assistance of the reader–though in the original there are no parenthesis-marks or hyphens, and the reader is left to flounder through to the remote verb the best way he can:

    “But when he, upon the street, the (in-satin-and-silk-covered- now-very-unconstrained-after-the-newest-fashioned-dressed) government counselor’s wife MET,” etc., etc.

    That is from THE OLD MAMSELLE’S SECRET, by Mrs. Marlitt. And that sentence is constructed upon the most approved German model. You observe how far that verb is from the reader’s base of operations; well, in a German newspaper they put their verb away over on the next page; and I have heard that sometimes after stringing along the exciting preliminaries and parentheses for a column or two, they get in a hurry and have to go to press without getting to the verb at all. Of course, then, the reader is left in a very exhausted and ignorant state…

    The Germans have another kind of parenthesis, which they make by splitting a verb in two and putting half of it at the beginning of an exciting chapter and the OTHER HALF at the end of it. Can any one conceive of anything more confusing than that? These things are called “separable verbs.” The German grammar is blistered all over with separable verbs; and the wider the two portions of one of them are spread apart, the better the author of the crime is pleased with his performance. A favorite one is REISTE AB–which means departed. Here is an example which I culled from a novel and reduced to English:

    “The trunks being now ready, he DE- after kissing his mother and sisters, and once more pressing to his bosom his adored Gretchen, who, dressed in simple white muslin, with a single tuberose in the ample folds of her rich brown hair, had tottered feebly down the stairs, still pale from the terror and excitement of the past evening, but longing to lay her poor aching head yet once again upon the breast of him whom she loved more dearly than life itself, PARTED.”

    However, it is not well to dwell too much on the separable verbs. One is sure to lose his temper early; and if he sticks to the subject, and will not be warned, it will at last either soften his brain or petrify it. Personal pronouns and adjectives are a fruitful nuisance in this language, and should have been left out. For instance, the same sound, SIE, means YOU, and it means SHE, and it means HER, and it means IT, and it means THEY, and it means THEM. Think of the ragged poverty of a language which has to make one word do the work of six–and a poor little weak thing of only three letters at that. But mainly, think of the exasperation of never knowing which of these meanings the speaker is trying to convey. This explains why, whenever a person says SIE to me, I generally try to kill him, if a stranger.

  13. On the subject of lawsuits, here’s the current status of the ones levelled against the Trump administration, by Margot Cleveland.
    https://thefederalist.com/2025/03/10/your-guide-to-the-lawsuits-challenging-a-presidents-power-to-fire-executive-officials/

    IMO, there seems to be a core vulnerability in the legislation being depended on by the judges who are denying that the President can fire executive employees at will from some of the “nonpartisan” boards: which is, can Congress tie the hands of the Executive just by inserting this phrase, in the establishing legislation creating the offices, providing for their removal “by the President only for inefficiency, neglect of duty, or malfeasance in office.”
    The text of Article II says no such thing.

  14. Reminder:
    Science Says Nobody is Born Gay
    The pseudo-scientific basis for the LGBTQ claims was completely disproven 20 years ago – when we mapped the human genome.

    The media highlighted groups of gay-rights activists who gave DNA samples to finally prove that those neanderthal Judeo-Christians were wrong, and that “gays are born that way”.

    Nothing was found.
    No genes correlated with homosexual attraction or behavior.

    Nada. Gornisht. Bupkes.

    Of course, The Science was thrown down the memory hole when no longer useful, and the pop-culture industry continued to promote the “Born that Way” myth – which is essential to the Left’s undermining the West’s pesky ideas of personal freedom and responsibility.

    I certainly hope this unravels quickly – but we can all speed the process by starting every conversation with the simple truth:

    Nobody is “Born that Way”

    Starting with this truth – and demanding proof of those who claim to speak for The Science – may actually save you from some tedious exchanges.

    It’s fortunate that many were jolted awake by the excesses and mutilations of the Trans movement – but the error and deception go all the way back to the original Gay Rights movement… Many Boomers and Xers must rethink their youthful indoctrination on this matter.

  15. The Alinskyite campaign against dissenting counter-currents in counseling and psychotherapy is just another example of a phenomenon of which we are all familiar. Liberals are malicious people who cannot leave anyone else alone.

  16. If one’s gig is destruction transformation, then it stands to “reason” that NOTHING can be left alone….

    E.g.,
    “Columbia Professors Cancel Classes in Solidarity With Pro-Hamas Activist in ICE Custody;
    “One professor gave students an automatic ‘A’ for their canceled midterms”—
    https://freebeacon.com/campus/columbia-professors-cancel-classes-in-solidarity-with-pro-hamas-activist-in-ice-custody/
    H/T Powerline blog.

    File under: The virtues of genocide….

    + Bonus:
    “Someone Thought It Was A Good Idea To Ask Kamala Harris To Speak At A Major AI Conference”—
    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/watch-someone-invited-kamala-harris-speak-major-ai-conference
    Opening grafs:
    “Someone thought it was a good idea to invite Kamala Harris to speak at AI conference…and it was obviously a disaster…”

  17. More Mark Twain! There’s never enough. My engineer husband, who does complex calculations in his head, has trouble learning to speak foreign languages. I shall now be able to tell him his struggles with spoken German are not his fault; the language is crazy. I am glad our Frisian roots were modified by the Danes, so we don’t have to deal with this insanity, only crazy spelling problems.

    Perhaps the language has finally driven the entire German nation nuts. They are busily destroying their industries with insane energy policies and accepting an alien culture which will overwhelm them.

  18. “The virtues of genocide”, continued…

    “The memory-holing of a pogrom;
    “The Jew hunt in Amsterdam last November was even worse than we thought.”—
    https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/03/10/the-memory-holing-of-a-pogrom/
    H/T Powerline blog.

    + Bonus (change of direction)…
    The feel-good story of the day/week/year/decade/…FUTURE??
    Salena Zito:
    “The Headlines Have Caught Up to Mike Rowe. Now What?”—
    http://jewishworldreview.com/0325/zito031125.php
    H/T Powerline blog.

  19. Kate expressed something that has always puzzled me about the ‘conversion therapy’ debate ever since the trans explosion. How can you support a ban on talking to a minor about what they think about their sexuality while simultaneously supporting the use of drugs and surgery to change the body of one who claims to have a similar conflict? This is especially true since a number of studies have indicated many minors identifying as gender-confused will resolve post-puberty that they are same-sex attracted. In essence they are supporting a physical form of ‘conversion therapy’ with extreme negative side effects. (I’ve often called the trans madness “socially acceptable homophobia” for this reason)

  20. Exactly, Christopher B.

    Talk therapy which might save a young person from conversion with drugs and a scalpel should be encouraged, not banned.

  21. Barry, that article about young people going into trades rather than college is very good. We absolutely need skilled labor done by intelligent people. We have a friend who joined his father’s electrician business rather than college. Now 30, he’s supporting a stay-at-home wife and two children comfortably.

  22. Gender refers to sex-correlated attributes (e.g. sexual orientation). Dysphoric or unsatisfied individuals are either transgender (e.g. homosexual) or transsocial (e.g. transvestite).

  23. My gay friends have admitted to me that they did suffer childhood sexual trauma. I suspect the majority of the LGB community have had that. To what extent, we don’t know because we aren’t allowed to acknowledge it, let alone study it.

    “Conversion” therapy is nothing more than allowing a counselor and patient to discuss that.

  24. How can you support a ban on talking to a minor about what they think about their sexuality while simultaneously supporting the use of drugs and surgery to change the body of one who claims to have a similar conflict?
    ==
    You cannot. The people who take this position live in bubbles. One aspect of the bubble is that no one who argues against them is present or when they are present they are fired. I assume there are honorable people in the professional-managerial class. When I locate one born after 1938, I’ll let you all know.

  25. One of my children works as a school counselor. She sometimes tells me about the people brought in to do professional development, how much they are far left activists who push gender identity ideology. And how much that puts her in a bind. Partly because she does not share their far left views. And partly because these speakers advise them how to do things that she considers unethical such as “don’t tell parents”.

    It’s decades past the time we start pushing back or even reversing the left’s long march through our institutions.

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