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  1. It’s now clear that over the last 2? 4 ? years Joe Biden did not have the mental faculties to perform his role as the president of the USA , and that it was his aides / staff that were running the show.
    Can the latter be held criminally liable for anything?
    Did they violate any laws?

    Anybody know ??

  2. The saying goes, “there will always be an England.”

    Unfortunately, I think that the evidence is piling up that the old, traditional England of fond memories is just gone, killed by decades of horrendously bad English government decisions on things like immigration and “multiculturalism.”

  3. Wonderful performance. I slightly prefer the Caruso-Ancona performance, which I find more passionate. I also really like the Alfredo Kraus–McDaniel performance as Kraus is exceptional in his singing. Thanks for the reminder of how beautiful this aria is.

  4. As I believe I have written here before, as I see it, first WWI and, then, WWII took off the board and essentially destroyed what was the cream of England’s ruling class, so that those forming today’s English ruling class are the B or even the C team.

  5. miguel,

    While the DEI policy at the LAFD is certainly not a good thing, it’s not the primary reason for the fires. That comes from decades of insane environment policies embraced by California. Refusal to clear underbrush, refusal to set up fire stops, refusal to use controlled burns, and most of all, their nutty water policies. This is not rocket science in that such measure have been used for many years to mitigate such fire hazards.

    Southern California has always had dry conditions with Santa Ana winds. It’s not a new phenomenon of “climate change”.

    I hate to say it, but as long as Californians continue to vote they way they do, they will continue to suffer the consequences. They have no one to blame but themselves.

  6. As I believe I have written here before, as I see it, first WWI and, then, WWII took off the board and essentially destroyed what was the cream of England’s ruling class, so that those forming today’s English ruling class are the B or even the C team.
    ==
    The last WWi veterans died about 10 years ago. The very youngest WWii veterans are 96 years old. No people of that vintage are in decision-making positions today. And why is it you imagine that the cream were to a man among those killed in combat?

  7. they have great skill at causing misery, we’re left to believe the dems wanted more of this in california, with the seven seats they picked up in the House right,

    on the other point, Enoch Powell, who was well informed about the region where these newcomers come from, warned the uk in 1967

  8. I wonder how long they’ll drag Carter around. They’re desperate for a “hero”!

  9. Art Deco:

    My guess is that what Snow on Pine may have meant by that remark is not that every single one of the “cream” of England were killed, but that a great great many were – and that in addition, they were killed prior to reproducing or to raising their children.

    I don’t know to what extent this is true, however. I know I’ve read it before.

  10. I think there is a compelling case that a lot of what has happened since WWI can be tied one way or another to the discrediting of the elites in power at the time.

    In that sense, I believe the WWI leaders were caught out by technology. European powers fought stupid wars all through the 19th century, and the WWI era leaders probably didn’t understand that 20th century war was an entirely different proposition of death and destruction. The arguments I’ve read blame everything from the empowering of extremist 20th century ideologies to the decline of Christianity on the public’s reaction to elites who led them into so much ruin for so little gain.

    So, there’s something that is slightly different from Snow on Pine’s point, but perhaps complimentary.

  11. Was on a Teams meeting this morning with a person in LA who dropped out midway through due to a power outage and had to log back in using her cell phone. Fortunately she was not near the fires, but their power had been off and on for the past 12 hours or so. She said the sky was pink.

  12. Bauxite…”I think there is a compelling case that a lot of what has happened since WWI can be tied one way or another to the discrediting of the elites in power at the time.”

    Erich Maria Remarque’s novel ‘The Road Back,’ which is kind of a sequel to his much-better-known ‘All Quiet on the Western Front,’ follows a group of German soldiers returning home after the war. One member of the group is Ludwig Breyer, a serious aspiring intellectual as a student, a dedicated and responsible officer in wartime. Now, he is shattered by the feeling that it was all for nothing:

    “They told us it was for the Fatherland, and they meant the schemes of annexation of a greedy industry.They told us it was for honour, and meant the quarrels and the will to power of a handful of ambitious diplomats and princes..They stuffed the word Patriotism with all the twaddle of their fine phrases, with their desire for glory, their will to power, their false romanticism…And we thought they were sounding a bugle summoning us to a new, a more strenuous, a larger life. Can’t you see, man? But we were making war against ourselves without knowing it!…The youth of the world rose up in every land believing that it was fighting for freedom! And in every land they were duped and misused; in every land they have been shot down, they have exterminated each other.”

    My review:
    https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/54294.html

  13. World War I was not a stupid war from the standpoint of those fighting it. When viewed in the context of their times the belligerents had what they judged to be valid reasons for going to war. Subsequent generations may assert that those those reasons were wrong and stupid and they have a valid point, but this is in any case a very dangerous stance for historians, or anyone else for that matter, to take in evaluating historical events. At worst it is flat-out wrong not to mention noxiously arrogant. Hugh Thomas, in Conquest: Cortes, Montezuma, and the Fall of Old Mexico, brilliantly tackles this most problematic aspect of the historian’s trade in his discussion of the relative merits and faults of Aztec and Spanish civilization and culture. In general, but not always, he leans in the direction of tell the story of the past as it unfolded and allowing readers to make their own judgments. He is, in other words, reader-centric in his approach and is correspondingly reluctant to impose his own values and views on readers.

  14. David Foster: chicagoboyz website has apparently been hacked. When I clicked on your link my security software refused entry and notified me that the site was infected.

  15. Neo–What I meant by my comment about the effects of WWI and WWII on the ruling class in England is that many in the ruling class–who had a certain set of beliefs, mentality, and drive–thought it was their duty to, and they fought–and died in huge numbers–in WWI; many blood lines were ended, many children were orphaned.

    Then, many of those remaining children of the ruling class, largely heirs to the same set of beliefs, mentality, and drive as their fathers, and now grown old enough–fought in WWII, and again, died in large numbers, with many more of their blood lines ended, and children orphaned.

    Post WWI and WWII developments, like the gradual disestablishment/destruction of many of the great houses, and the loss of the mindset, the economic and social structures and all that went with them was, I’d imagine, also a very strong blow against a damaged and faltering ruling class.

    Thus, many of those who grew up after them were not, and are not, the heirs of the old beliefs, mentality, and drive which died on those battlefields in WWI and WWII.

    WWI and WWII certainly “thinned out” the ruling class.

  16. they were killed prior to reproducing or to raising their children.
    ==
    Have a gander at the children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren of Dwight Eisenhower. Cream may beget cream, but it’s pretty hit and miss.

  17. Enoch Powell, who was well informed about the region where these newcomers come from, warned the uk in 1967
    ==
    Powell’s speech was a whinge about West Indians, who manifest more social pathology than do white British but are otherwise not challenging.

  18. It’s been a long time since I read it, but didn’t Shirer make the case in “Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” that when the British soldiers first met the Germans on the battlefield in WWII the physical juxtaposition was striking. The German youth had gone through the Reich’s rigorous educational system that included lots of physical activity, even for the Fräuleins, and the Brits were sickly and wan with poor posture. I think Shirer also attributed some of the difference to the Brits’ breeding stock being diluted from WWI.

  19. David’s link worked fine for me. Sometimes browsers and SS can be a tad sensitive on some sites…still, good to check. I am about overkill – like 10 browsers w/ Firefox and Epic as main two.

  20. If I’m understanding things correctly, from what I saw, just now, in the British Parliament, a vote was held on a proposal for a thorough investigation of the Pakistani Muslim grooming and rape gang situation, and the motion was voted down by a large majority of Labor MPs, whose party is the party in power, with Kier Starmer as their PM.

    Starmer the chief prosecutor who, back in the day, reportedly refused to go after these gangs in any major way.

    I can’t help but think that this vote will infuriate more and more native British citizens.

  21. Snow on Pine, about 2% of the British population died during WWi consequent to military operations and another 1% during WWii. I’m not seeing how the ‘ruling class’ could be wiped out by this. Unlike France, Britain was never occupied. There was an electoral re-alignment during the period running from 1910 to 1924, but the same line up of political parties which competed in 1900 was still competing in 1964 bar the departure of Irish regional parties. The consequence of the peerage and gentry declined, but that was to be expected as the share of domestic product accounted for by agriculture declined. The crucial institutional adjustments which damaged their formal political influence occurred in 1911. Their economic position (and that of wealthy people generally) was further injured by income and inheritance taxes.

  22. Art Deco— The question is, who comprised those who died?

    This seems similar to the reports of annual book losses where I worked, at the Library of Congress.

    They would report that in any particular year just passed, only a couple of percent of our book collection was stolen, or mutilated to remove their valuable illustrations.

    The problem was that, the small percentage of missing or destroyed books was comprised of the newest, most requested, most valuable, or even very rare or old, often one of an kind, irreplaceable books.

    So what seems at first glance to be a small loss was, in fact, a major one.

  23. Computers and CGI make all things possible.

    Here is the supposed rescue of a polar bear who is covered in barnacles which, for a number of reasons, commenters point out does not seem real.

    This ain’t friendly, “smoky the bear,” they’re supposedly dealing with.

    To begin with, why is this huge, seemingly alert, supposedly wild Polar Bear so docile, his movements unnatural, and him essentially immobile?*

    * See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEON6Ug-Ei4&t=111s

  24. P.S. Of course, you could also “lose” a book because it was misplaced a few feet from where it was supposed to be, when your collection occupies a reported 800 miles of shelf space.

  25. If it is valid that Britain lost a largish fraction of its best and brightest in WWI (a somewhat reasonable assertion), then does the same argument apply to France and to Germany? Did the WWII collapse of the French Army and the political takeover in Germany by the Nazi’s occur because their respective better and brighter cohorts were also less numerous?

    On the polar bear and barnacles, I suspect there are many boat owners and many Navy schwabbees who would like to know how to remove said barnables so easily with such a relatively mild hose spraying. As one of the commenters said, what is the point of creating such an obviously fictional portrayal of a rescue?

  26. From John Tyler’s comment at 10:33 AM:
    “… Joe Biden did not have the mental faculties to perform his role as the president of the USA , and that it was his aides / staff that were running the show.
    Can the latter be held criminally liable for anything?
    Did they violate any laws?”
    Indeed. An important question!
    I hope someone addresses it.
    America needs to learn from the last 4 years, and especially how to prevent a repeat.

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