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There’s been a shooting at a Christian school in Wisconsin [see UPDATE below] — 17 Comments

  1. RIP, and condolences to the families affected.

    It’s too early to say what the situation was, and early reports are often wrong.

  2. Unusual for a female shooter, but not the first. Will it come out that she believes she is a he, and was bullied?

  3. Are they hiding the sex: male or female, or gender (i.e. sex-correlated attributes): masculine or feminine, of the abortionist, homicidal lunatic? Perhaps the abortionist is in the transgender spectrum (e.g. homosexual).

  4. Bad enough that the media creates false narratives for us, we don’t need to create them for ourselves while we’re waiting for the official fake one.

  5. Starting to look like another girl, identifying as ‘non-binary’, with a history of fascination with school shooters, and several social media accounts that feature this kind of subject matter.

    It would do a world of good, for there to be a commitment to transparency with these kinds of things, so that parents and school administrators and – dare I say it – law enforcement could more quickly realize they need to act together to preempt such events, instead of admitting later that ‘something-somebody’ was ‘on the radar’. As with the Tennessee school shooting event, where the trans-girl’s manifesto was squelched for so many months, for no good reason.

    This only serves to stifle discussions that must be had. A lot of things might be ‘on the radar’. The key is taking action on the short list. So far, society hasn’t learned this skill, or been allowed to develop it.

  6. Niketas:

    “Sounds like it might be this” or “I wonder if it might be that” is not creating a false narrative. It’s speculating, and not presenting the speculation as a fact.

  7. Neo: agree with your comment to Niketas. Our language contains a subjunctive mood —“If X were so, then maybe Y would seem possible…”. That is IMHO a rich “channel” in which people can (in good faith) offer speculation without commandeering the discourse into literal this or that.

  8. @Owen:people can (in good faith) offer speculation without commandeering the discourse

    By doing so, most likely they will start looking for things to confirm their speculations, because they already have a narrative to slot potential facts into. I get that people on some level enjoy speculating about what the facts will eventually show, and that quietly waiting for facts to come out is dull by comparison, but I do think the cons of speculating outweigh the pros.

    My guess is that this is happening as we speak with the drone flight story: first speculation, then people expecting to see mysterious drones, speculating about what the drones might be doing, looking for drones in the places they speculate they may find them, and then people start reporting all kinds of things as a “drone” sighting, and it may be very difficult to ever get to the truth. If it turns out that there was only, say, three real drones doing something very mundane, lots of people will refuse to believe it because so many more were reported doing all kinds of crazy stuff.

  9. I understand the horror over this shooting. Evolving reports show a very troubled young woman.

    Why did police, assisted, it seems, by FBI, find it necessary to use flashbangs and break down the door of the shooter’s home to search it? Were they threatened by a family member? Reports don’t say so.

  10. Kate:

    F’en Bunch of Idiots

    Well, they were probablly Christian, after all. Can’t be too careful. (sarc)

  11. Excessive use of force by police in searches has been an ongoing problem. They needed to search the home, no question.

  12. How’s this?
    Someone under acute emotional stress–self-induced or by circumstance–can spew the hurt onto social media.
    Under the Freudian safety-valve model, if it were not for social media, the person would have to spill it to the real world where somebody including parents of school folks might take note of it.
    It doesn’t take much, in the early teens, to put a kid in the state that there’s no way out of the issue. And that having been raised in what is, materially, the situation where the physical world has the fewest sharp edges in history metaphorically speaking, the capacity for dealing is not exercised.
    And if social media derails the usual methods of finding and getting help, even if not purposely, maybe we have an issue here.
    If a counselor, or a parent, had spent sufficient time letting this kid spew, and maybe been able to fix one or another issue, possibly it would have been resolved as in earlier times.

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