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  1. I agree. This is an opening gambit. You don’t open negotiations the way Obama/Biden did with Iran which was “Tell us what you want and we’ll give it to you’

  2. Your option #2 with a sprinkle of #4.

    He hasn’t taken office yet, this is a move to clearly establish what he wants from them.

  3. What Steve and Betty said.

    A “stupid dodohead” doesn’t turn his several million dollar inheritance into several billion dollars.

    I don’t particularly like him, and I could use a lot of derogatory terms to describe what it is that I don’t like about him…but “stupid” isn’t one of them.

  4. Big Tariffs sounded great when I first read it. Then read something about it hurting workers in all involved countries—including here. I dunno…

    So the way I see it is that this is Trump’s opening bid in a complex negotiation – let’s make a deal.

    Good point.

    And will Mexico and/or Canada and/or China blink and actually do something about fentanyl…

    Vice crime enforcement has a long history of failure in America—reflecting on big expenses and *BIG GOVT ENFORCEMENT* plus keeping local govts busy and broke.

    Vice crimes can be understood as malum prohibitum, a legal term describing something unlawful only by virtue of the law (i.e., its illegal, because its illegal), not because it is “evil” or malum in se. Vice crimes are often victimless crimes, when all parties are consensually involved.

    Trump obviously knows this so it can probably be dropped in the “complex negotiation”.

    Leave the new ‘Silent’ Trump to his work… 😉

  5. Agree with (2) and (4). And didn’t he do the same thing last time? That is, didn’t he threaten Mexico with tariffs if Mexico didn’t agree to “remain in Mexico?”

  6. I don’t know much about tariffs and have no idea what will happen if Trump imposes them. I just want to say that I love this phrase:

    “. . . stupid dodohead Nazi whatever.”

    It sums up so much Trump derangement, so brilliantly. Wonderful!

  7. Loose lips sink ships therefore it’s wise to play close to the vest. I swear, the left doesn’t seem to understand either dealing with bullies or negotiation with bullies. Trump seems to have a good handle on both. My guess is this understanding was sharpened by dealing with the construction business in NYC.

    Democrat politicians are used to being bullies. They hate it when their bluff is called.

  8. “Why doesn’t Trump explain his strategy better, so that the American people can understand all the thinking behind this?”

    • Out of curiosity, what would “better” look like?

    • All of us – USA & abroad – heard/ read what the experts/ MSM/ etc. said would happen when Trump stated that he was going to deploy tariffs in his first term (see ‘The sky will fall’).

    • Then all of us experienced what actually did happen, including the fact the next USA administration left the tariffs in place (see ‘The sky did not fall’).

    • Strikes me that Trump clearly stated what he wishes to see happen – curtail drug smuggling/production & illegal immigration – and that many will understand & support those goals (see ‘Less is More’).

    • Lastly, Trump was returned to office in part because he earned much of the public’ trust when it came to handling the economy and protecting the country, and that is part of the public’ understanding too – “explained” or not (see ‘Don’t let perfection get in the way of progress’).

  9. It’s going to be a bumpy ride. The posturing by Mexico’s President is interesting.

    MEXICO CITY, Nov 26 (Reuters) – Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum on Tuesday warned U.S. President-elect Donald Trump of dire economic consequences for both countries from tariffs and suggested possible retaliation following his threat of across-the-board tariffs of 25% on Mexico and Canada.

    Also her comments on Trump’s election in a speech to fellow Mexicans. Sounding like she is ready for a fight. This after the election before Trump announced the tariffs when he takes office. It does put the ball in Mexico’s court to demonstrate they will help control their southern border.:

    “There is nothing to worry about. Mexico always comes out ahead.”

    This isn’t inflationary. It’s a tax. It will increase revenue to the government. How much it will raise the price of goods imported from Mexico depends on whether it’s a finished good or a component in the production of a product here.

    Unless you consider all taxes inflationary which would be kind of a new definition of a tax.

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