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  1. Mark Fuhrman (yes, that Mark Fuhrman) wrote a book on the JFK assassination, and he reached the conclusion that Oswald acted alone. This was after he’d written Murder in Brentwood and also Murder in Greenwich.

  2. Neo, I disagree. I too have studied the JFK assassination, and there is NO WAY that Oswald (or anyone else) could have used that particular alleged bolt-action rifle (with a rough action) to have hit a moving target with such speed and accuracy at that distance. It is just not probable. And what with Oswald getting so conveniently killed shortly after, it is definitely a conspiracy.

    My personal theory is that some folks wanted to escalate things in Vietnam even in 1963 (gotta test out new weapon systems, eh?), and that JFK didn’t want to escalate, so he was conveniently shot by *someone*. Then when LBJ took over, LBJ went along with escalating Vietnam because he did not want to also get assassinated.

  3. Rusty:

    You may think you have studied it, but I would wager you haven’t read the book, just like the other commenters I describe in my post. You have read incomplete histories that suggest theories that contradict the facts.

    Do yourself a favor. Read the Bugliosi book.

  4. Guess human nature hasn’t changed much since then. Was not even into politics when JFK was elected, but do remember claims that he and the Democrats had “cheated” even back then—even when I could care less about politics, so it must’ve been an outcry since it has stuck in my memory.

    People still trying to kill American presidents.

    Lived in SW Miami during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

    Remember JFK sending my dad to California to learn some Vietnamese – and then over to Vietnam.

    Remember Thich Quang Duc setting himself on fire and burning to death. Remember writing about it for some kind of class assignment—maybe something like ‘write about recent news and what you would do about it in so many words’: OK…wrote something like this:

    Recent news: Lots of news about Thich Quang Duc’s self-immolation. What would I do about it: Give those Vietnamese monks free gas and matches.

    I thought it was a great originality report, but teacher gave me an F and told me I could do better than that.

    I thought JFK was OK…and also remember his assassination.

  5. I was home from school that day and saw it on TV (I don’t think I saw it happen live). Five years later, I saw the video of RFK being shot. Yes, the Trump shooting brought these memories to vivid life.

  6. I was 6 years old when JFK was assassinated, too young to have any real memories about the event. I do vaguely remember watching the funeral. I’m from a Boston Irish Catholic family, on both sides, and so there was a lot of attention paid to this, and the RFK assassination.

    That Oswald acted alone seems clear to me. I’ve read quite a bit, though not as much as you Neo, about the event. The fact that no one has come forward with direct, first hand knowledge and evidence of a plot involving the US government and/or foreign actors is relevant and important. Doesn’t prove there wasn’t some sort of plot but certainly argues against there being one.

    The attempt on Trump opened a pit in my stomach, just as the attempt on Reagan did. Interesting that your post is the first I’ve seen mentioning the anniversary.

  7. Oswald shot JFK. Al-Qaeda flew the planes into the buildings. Thomas Crooks shot at Trump. Man I’m tired of conspiracy weirdos.

  8. Our government is so skeevy at this point, they bring this on themselves. Why is anything to with this still classified? There must be something deeply embarrassing to dot gov.

  9. Couple of notes: Ex Infantry, fired numerous bolties as well as semi and full auto.
    Any grad of Basic could have made that shot–I visited the Depository.
    Oswald didn’t fire THREE rounds in that period of time. He fired two. The clock starts at the first.

    So far, so good. One lone nut case with more than sufficient nutcasery in his background to fill out the necessary.

    Then comes Ruby. Right place, right time, having been doing some banking nearby. So random takes a hit here. When random no longer satisfies, another pattern is sought. It’s human nature.

    As to hitting a target–head shot, whatever–that’s meaningless. Any shot is an attempt, no matter how wide it goes and any hit is either lethal or possibly lethal, no matter where on the body. You shoot at a moving target with the adrenalin pumping….you might hit but your placement could be anything. Center of mass…hit the head. Aim at the head, hit the head….or maybe the chest, or maybe the fire plug.

    Nee more random, though.

  10. “Thomas Crooks shot at Trump. Man I’m tired of conspiracy weirdos.” -sharksauce.

    I think Crooks shot President Trump– but was he a lone assassin or were more people involved in the assassination attempt. We may get answers now that Republicans will have access to more government records.

    Since I’m a weirdo, explain to me why the Secret Service snipers that set up behind Trump to surveille that direction didn’t have a clear sight line to where Crooks took his shot? Why did the local LEO’s who were supposed to surveille that building’s roof leave their posts minutes before Crooks fired? Why did the SS not pick up the radios that would have allowed direct communication between them and the local LEO? That’s a few questions I would like answered. There’s more.

    How many coincidences does it take to become a conspiracy?

  11. Brian

    Coincidences….wait for it…coincide. Do they kind of line up like an arrow pointing in a given direction? Random, they point in all directions. was there any random thingy making the operation more difficult for Crooks?

  12. To the “weirdos”

    The answer to “how many”
    is:

    N+1.

    And to keep a conspiracy going the answer is:

    Whatever it takes.

  13. I was a very little 3yo kid then, but yet a few months later than Kennedy’s assassination, Douglas MacArthur died with a state funeral. My mother has told me that I asked if another President died, at least makes me think I shouldn’t have but must have got it was a bad event again.
    I think Oswald was alone but who knows if he was egged on by others?
    Would be nice to see all information released.

  14. “was there any random thingy making the operation more difficult for Crooks?” – Richard Aubrey

    no

  15. I was walking on the quad of the University of Illinois when he was shot. I had an immediate strong sense that LBJ had done it.

    As a former competitive shooter, University of Illinois Rifle Team and Fort Knox Rifle Team, owner of a Carcano, and someone with a lifelong familiarity with firearms, I say it is impossible for Oswald to have been the shooter.

    The Man Who Killed Kennedy: The Case Against LBJ by Roger Stone, is a great read.

    Maybe we will finally know when Trump 2 takes over.

  16. I was in sixth grade.

    We went out for after-lunch recess. When we came back, Mr. Reynolds, with a long face, summarized what had happened.

    Then he dismissed us for the day.

    Life changed.

  17. most likely,

    they had oswald on the radar since he defected to Russia, settled in Minsk where coincidentally two future high ranking Cuban regime officials were training married the daughter of a midlevel KGB officer, then settled in Dallas, the seat of the Russian emigres, too many flags to ignore,, his motivations were clearly against
    him as it would be with atta, nearly 40 years later, or mcveigh a decade prior,
    so mere incompetence one might entertain,

  18. I won’t argue that Oswald acted alone on that day.

    I will argue — yea, even with neo — that it might not be that simple. There are still unreleased JFK files. Why? Maybe for good or bad reasons.

    The CIA and FBI knew who Oswald was. He had defected to the USSR fergawdsake. They were tracking him. Perhaps they even created him. The CIA did conduct LSD research at Atsugi, Japan where Oswald was stationed.

    In those days there was the MKULTRA program (1953-1972) dedicated to mind control and creating mind-controlled assassins.

    The CIA destroyed all their MKULTRA files, so there’s no hard proof of anything. I don’t spend long winter nights pondering it.

    Trump says he will consider releasing the remaining JFK files.

    I look forward to it.

  19. Oswald did it, but his connections to US and foreign intelligence agencies haven’t fully come to light yet. The MLK and RFK assassinations could use even more investigation and disclosure. For example, I wondered for decades where James Earl Ray got the money and passports that were on him when he was arrested in London. Rumors of a second shooter seem better founded in the RFK shooting than in his brother’s earlier assassination.

  20. 18 y/o college freshman studying on the 3rd floor of the university library, between classes, suddenly a loud speaker blared in the quad below as we rushed to the window to look down “Kennedy was shot!” Everything shut down that weekend and the following Thanksgiving week. Less than a year later the lying, conniving, SOB Johnson was telling us not to worry, “Not a mother’s son will fight in Vietnam…” blah, blah, effing blah. Our world changed much for the worse that day.

  21. Oswald did it, but his connections to US and foreign intelligence agencies haven’t fully come to light yet. The MLK and RFK assassinations could use even more investigation and disclosure.

    Abraxas:

    Quite.

    How James Earl Ray, MLK’s assassin, who went from petty redneck crook to criminal mastermind eluding an international manhunt for months, continues to mystify me.

    Of course, maybe our vaunted law enforcement agencies are just incompetent, corrupt team players, as we have seen arrayed against Trump and his allies.

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