There’s never any election fraud – except when there is
This:
Hubbard County Auditor Kay Rave filed a complaint after she determined that she could not find completed registration forms among the ballots she received from Scouton’s jurisdiction.
This complaint led to an investigation by the Hubbard County Sheriff’s Office.
Eventually, another judge who worked with Scouton on election night came forward and told police that Scouton explicitly ordered voters to not fill out the Minnesota Voter Registration Application.
A third judge said that Scouton simply told new voters to sign the back of a book rather than fill out any official forms.
At least 11 people voted illegally as a result of Scouton’s actions.
This seems somewhat in line with the recent attempt in Bucks County Pennsylvania to count flawed ballots, against an explicit law:
But that didn’t stop Bucks County Commissioners Chair Diane Ellis-Marseglia. Not only did she and her fellow Democrat Bob Harvie vote to count the flawed ballots, she publicly acknowledged their decision was contrary to the law.
“I think we all know that precedent by a court doesn’t matter anymore in this country,” she said after the fact. “People violate laws any time they want. So for me, if I violate this law, it’s because I want a court to pay attention to it.”
A video of her admission made a hit on social media, garnering millions of views. Republicans claimed it confirmed their belief that Democrats are willing to manipulate the law to win elections. The fact that Ellis-Marseglia donated $600 to Casey’s campaign in September, and Casey had backed two Bucks County Democrats in previous elections, didn’t help.
Bucks County isn’t alone. Philadelphia, Centre, and Montgomery County Democrats are also defying both the state Supreme Court and Pennsylvania law by including mail ballots that have no date, or have the wrong date, in their county’s final count.
In both cases, there was defiance of the law that was relatively easy to see. How much goes on that’s difficult or impossible to see or to prove? That’s the problem; trust was broken when the laws were changed because some of the new laws were too lax. But trust is also broken when there is either the appearance or the fact of open defiance of laws. And after the fact, it’s often difficult or impossible to prove what happened and to know how it may have affected the results.
There was such a brouhaha about the Bucks Count Commisioners Chair’s statement that she’s issued this “apology”:
“The passion in my heart got the best of me and I apologize again for that,” Bucks County Commissioner Diane Ellis-Marseglia said in front of a fiery crowd at a county meeting.
“I made a mistake, and because I am an elected official, I am held to a far higher standard than everybody else. So, to the citizens I serve, I apologize, and I will continue to work hard for you and endeavor to not make such a mistake again.”
“The passion in my heart” – isn’t that great? She’s so passionate, you see. And no, you’re not held to a far higher standard. You’re held to the exact same standard: follow the law.
She should be fired or resign.
Also, here’s an informative video on the subject of voting fraud, then and now:
This time around the RNC was ahead of the game, filing lawsuits in several states before illegal votes were cast or counted. It seems to have made a large difference.
Here in NC, I can’t point to any specific illegalities, but somehow a Republican NC Supreme Court candidate who was leading his Democrat opponent by 10,000 votes on the morning after Election Day is now behind by about 600 votes because of absentee and provisional ballots. This seems statistically highly unlikely.
She should be fired or resign.
She should go to prison. Our elections are the cornerstone of our Republic. When people subvert them by committing (or attempting to commit) fraud they’re effectively nullifying the votes of others. This undermines the very idea of open and fair elections, destroying people’s faith in them. It is evil. And if it is not punished severely when discovered then in only emboldens others to do the same.
What Nonapod said at 3:45. She should be prosecuted.
yes, that seems odd, considering the overwhelming vote for trump, this turn, it would have manifested itself across the board,
As ballot counting continues in California; Democrats are crowing now that Trump doesn’t have a mandate, because he doesn’t have over 50% of the popular vote Trump still has and likely will retain a lead over Harris. California is slowly erasing the over 5 million vote lead that Trump had a week after the election. Democrats no longer have a path to win the White House, the House, or the Senate; but they’ll continue cheating as long as they can.
Leland:
I guess Bill Clinton didn’t have a mandate either. Pity.
Trump still has 2.5 million more votes than Harris, in spite of California.
Yeah…so tell me again how 2020 was totes legit. Prison for the perpetrators. No other solution.
People are unfairly holding Ellis-Marseglia to a “far higher standard,” all because of her passion. And what could be more genuine and important than a person’s passions? Pay no attention to the corrupt use of power in the “I’m taking what I want” aspect of it. What a giant load of BS! Yes, prosecute.
Dems always have a mandate. Republicans are always warned against overreaching and toward bipartisanship.
Sen Schumer, on his way out, had this to say:
“As productive as the last four” years was, for Chuck Schumer. Thanks, Senate Republicans.
Beware of any claim that emotion was behind what someone said or did. AKA, the “my heart was in the right place” argument. Such justification is usually nonsense.
Her “passion” was not to be the best public official she could be, by following the law and listening to her constituents. Her “passion” was to tilt the scales so that her side could win. That is not “passion,” but a coldly rational decision that defying the law could help her side win.
BTW, Bucks County was closely contested. Trump won Bucks County by less than 300 votes out of nearly 400,000 votes, a margin of 0.07%, which may indicate why she wanted to tilt the scales.
For another example using emotion to try to justify an act, a consider a recent CT story. A special ed teacher resigned due to outrage over a video she posted about putting Trump supporters “on a stretcher, gone forever.”
Connecticut Teacher Who Resigned After Threatening Trump Voters Tears Up in Media Interview
After she resigned, a local TV station interviewed her, where she tried to justify her act by talking about emotion, to show that her heart was in the right place.
The issue was not just “a moment of high emotion.” The issue was her inability to think, her inability to reason.
Q.Who the heck believes the nonsense that Trump’s winning the election would “give people the permission in their minds to enact violence against women?”
A. Someone who unhesitatingly believes whatever the MSM and the Demos say about Trump.
“I apologize, and I will stay in my cushy job until you get it together to vote me out.”
Apparently Bucks County residents don’t like being played for fools. From Hot Air: ‘Corrupt Tyrants’: Irate Citizens Skewer Bucks County Commissioners For Flagrantly Violating Election Law.
“She should be fired or resign.”
“She should go to prison.”
“She should be prosecuted.”
“Prison for the perpetrators.”
Could we bring back “the stocks” (an instrument of punishment consisting of a heavy wooden frame with holes in which the feet, hands, or head of an offender were locked)?