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  1. Jonathan Last has decayed precipitously from when he was writing at (now bat-guano-crazy) Bill Kristol’s Weekly Standard. Especially memorable to me is Last’s article “American Narcissus,” from November 2010: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/magazine/87594/american-narcissus/ (That’s in the archive at the Washington Examiner and is somewhat less readable typographically than was the original.)

    It opens with:

    Why has Barack Obama failed so spectacularly? Is he too dogmatically liberal or too pragmatic? Is he a socialist, or an anticolonialist, or a philosopher-president? Or is it possible that Obama’s failures stem from something simpler: vanity. Politicians as a class are particularly susceptible to mirror-gazing. But Obama’s vanity is overwhelming. It defines him, his politics, and his presidency.

    Last followed up with this codicil …

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/2135826/the-american-narcissus-cont/

    … which I will quote in its entirety:

    A reader sends in a classic Obama moment that I completely missed. Here’s Ryan Lizza in a 2004 profile of Obama for the Atlantic:

    I couldn’t help noticing, when we sat down to talk in the dilapidated storefront that houses his Springfield campaign headquarters, that the blue-pen drawing he’d doodled on his newspaper during fundraising calls was a portrait of himself.

    You may have your own favorite scenes from the American Narcissus. Feel free to send them along to jlast[at]weeklystandard.com. Submissions will be accepted without judgment. This is a safe place, a nest of trust in a tree of understanding.

    You can’t make stuff like this up!

  2. Add to arrogance and ignorance, denial of reality. Arguably denial of inconvenient realities is the foremost characteristic of those on the left. Even ‘rational’ liberals like Carville, Dershowitz & Maher still “choose truth over facts”.

  3. The filibuster, or any other Senate rule, can be set aside at any time for any reason by 51 votes:

    Every question of order shall be decided by the presiding officer, without debate, subject to an appeal to the Senate. When an appeal is taken from the decision of the presiding officer, the decision of the presiding officer shall be overruled only if a majority of the elected members of the Senate vote to overrule his decision.

    We don’t actually know that only Sinema and Manchin among the Dems opposed it. Votes are whipped. They don’t hold the vote unless they believe they know the outcome. All we know is that at least two Democrats, not necessarily those two, opposed those bills and there was not a Senate majority in favor. The agreed-upon whipped vote is everyone but those two, certainly, but if there were more than two opposed, then Sinema and Manchin were cover for them–Dems who opposed it for some non-public reason that their home-state base would not forgive if they knew.

    The Republicans do exactly the same dance of Designated Mavericks, and our failure to see through it is why they represent us so poorly.

    Obamacare is an excellent example of what they can do when they want to. Individual Senators were bought off at sometimes a high price:

    SEN. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., exacted a special price for his vote on the Senate health-care bill. Opening up the Medicaid program to 15 million more Americans over the next decade will cost the states billions of dollars — but not Ben Nelson’s state. For Nebraska, the cost, estimated at $100 million through 2016, will be paid by the federal government.

    The debt ceiling vote in 2021 is another, when the Republicans had enough votes to sustain a filibuster but Mitch McConnell whipped enough votes to set aside the filibuster, at Chuck Schumer’s (and McConnell’s cronies’) behest.

    Separating the debt limit and NDAA, and creating a one-time filibuster carve-out is a solution that allows both parties to claim some sort of victory. Republicans are able to say that they made Democrats raise the debt limit and to get them on the record for a specific amount (which could be as high as $2.5 trillion, according to the New York Times). Democrats, meanwhile, are able to avoid using budget reconciliation, giving them more time to focus on passing another piece of legislation they’ve struggled to vote into law: the Build Back Better Act, a massive social and climate spending package.

    The filibuster is theater, intended to fool us, the voters. They get rid of it whenever they want to. We need to stop being fooled.

  4. I still say we should be thankful that Barack and Michelle weren’t really Long March communists.

    Once they did their eight year stint in the White House and put together a multi-millionaire portfolio of properties in Chicago, Martha’s Vineyard, and Hawaii, then the Beautiful People lifestyle, they were Outta There.

    Sure, Barack does phone consultations and occasional speeches, but if they were serious about the “fundamental transformation of America” they would have kneecapped Joe before the primaries, put in Michelle as a figurehead, and I doubt Trump could have won.

  5. @Niketas Choniates

    You are confusing a vote on changing or suspending the Senate rules, as well as the number of votes it takes to pass a bill in the Senate, with the Senate rule for the number of Senators who must vote to end debate and move to an up or down vote on a bill. By Senate rule it takes a super-majority of 60 Senators to end debate and move to an up or down vote on a bill. A modern filibuster is simply a vote count that indicates fewer than 60 Senators wish to vote on the bill rather than a continuous talk-a-thon but the principle is still the same. Also note that Obamacare was moved through the Senate (somewhat dubiously) under special provisions in the Senate rules for finance related bills that suspended the filibuster for those bills specifically.

  6. It ain’t over….

    “Dems to Biden: Take Action Before Trump Takes Over“—
    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/donald-trump-democrats-joe-biden/2024/11/15/id/1188231/
    Opening grafs:

    Democrats are pushing the Biden administration to put safeguards in place before President-elect Donald Trump takes office, including seating as many Biden-appointed federal judges as possible, finding a way to protect generals Trump plans to expel from the Pentagon, and sending money out to Ukraine, among other items, reported the Hill.

    “There’s a lot that the Biden administration can do, and I know that they’ve done some scenario planning,” said Rep. Jared Huffman, D-Calif. “It would be a huge political malpractice for them not to anticipate this scenario and have some plans in place.”

    Heh…
    They’ve worked SO HARD (and lying SO EARNESTLY) over the past eight-plus years ginning up the HATE and the HYSTERIA.
    Why should they stop now??
    THEY HAVE A COUNTRY TO SAVE…to fulfill their dreams of destruction….

  7. @Christopher B:You are confusing a vote on changing or suspending the Senate rules.

    100% wrong.

    By Senate rule it takes a super-majority of 60 Senators to end debate and move to an up or down vote on a bill.

    This rule about 60 Senators “voting to end debate” can be waived, and has been waived, with only 51 votes according to the rule I quoted, and so can any other rule, and they do it whenever they want to, not just when you hear about it in the news. When they want to be dramatic they call this “nuking the filibuster” and when they want it to fly under the radar they call it “a procedural maneuver”.

    Every time the “filibuster has been nuked” it has been nuked by the rule I quoted, with only 51 votes needed.

    Here is the transcript of one occasion on which it was done, and note the vote count, 48-52:

    [Mr. REID] I raise a point of order that the vote on cloture under Rule XXII for all nominations other than for the Supreme Court of the United States is by majority vote.
    [The PRESIDENT pro tempore] Under the rules, the point of order is not sustained.
    [Mr. REID] I appeal the ruling of the Chair and ask for the yeas and nays.
    (48–52 vote on sustaining the decision of the chair)
    [The PRESIDENT pro tempore] The decision of the Chair is not sustained.
    [The PRESIDENT pro tempore] Under the precedent set by the Senate today, November 21, 2013, the threshold for cloture on nominations, not including those to the Supreme Court of the United States, is now a majority. That is the ruling of the Chair.

    It is a fact that filibuster or any other Senate rule can be set aside at any time by 51 votes, and any narrative that suggests otherwise is false.

  8. Niketas Choniates

    I don’t have a clue what the rules are – other than rules are made to be broken.

    From what you are saying—it seems that the recess appointments can easily been done if Thune works with Trump on it.

    Like he can have votes “whipped” for Gaetz – and if not enough he can do a recess for Trump…??

    Trump is determined to see Gaetz confirmed as AG despite controversies

    Yet the president-elect has made clear that he views Gaetz as the most important member of the Cabinet he is quickly assembling…

    Trump wants Gaetz confirmed “100%,” a source told CNN. “He is not going to back off. He’s all in.”

    Trump wants this…can’t blame him after weak-kneed Sessions – can it be done?

  9. Geez. Last studied molecular biology at Johns Hopkins and graduated.

    One might think he would think more carefully. But I gave up on scientists as reliably critical thinkers a long time ago and the fancy degrees don’t help.

  10. The topic of “Punditry bias” came up on another blog. It’s commentators’ belief that the policies they prefer are the policies that will win votes, as if voters were as ideological as the pundits. In spite of increasing and deepening polarization, elections are still decided largely by the state of the nation and by pocketbook issues.

    The Bulwark crew does a lot of videos. They undercut the group’s message. Last, Kristol, and the rest of the team would like to be authoritative voices from on high, but seeing them on camera makes it hard to take them seriously. If you wonder why some people still believe the network nightly news, production values have something to do with it. Watching Kristol with his oversized earphones or manic Tim Miller trying to attract attention to himself does a lot to undermine the messaging.

  11. Dopes like Last and their fantasies of permanent donkey control rely on the club of 100 to permanently and massively devalue their offices. That ain’t going to happen in the quotidian world.

  12. @Dax:Your link — https://senate.la.gov/Documents/Rules/chapter6.htm — is for the Louisiana State Senate, not the U.S. Senate.

    Good catch, thanks, and sorry for the mistake. US Senate Rule XX “Questions of Order” is here.

    The mechanism is:

    1) A Senator raises a point of order, contradicting the Senate rule he wishes to set aside. (Can be any rule whatever.)
    2) The chair overrules the point of order.

    3) The Senator appeals the decision of the chair to the Senate, which overrules the chair by simple majority vote, as happened in the following example from 2013:

    Mr. REID I raise a point of order that the vote on cloture under rule XXII for all nominations other than for the Supreme Court of the United States is by majority vote.
    The PRESIDENT pro tempore Under the rules, the point of order is not sustained.
    Mr. REID I appeal the ruling of the Chair and ask for the yeas and nays.
    (48–52 vote on sustaining the decision of the chair)
    The PRESIDENT pro tempore The decision of the Chair is not sustained.
    The PRESIDENT pro tempore Under the precedent set by the Senate today, November 21, 2013, the threshold for cloture on nominations, not including those to the Supreme Court of the United States, is now a majority. That is the ruling of the Chair.

    tl; dr the Senate has a rule that lets them ignore any rule, including the 60-vote filibuster rule, by simple majority vote. (That’s Rule XX, “Questions of order”.)

    It follows then that the Senate can pass anything by simple majority vote, but they and the media find it advantageous to pretend otherwise.

  13. Reminds me of a notion floated just prior to Election Day that Republicans couldn’t run against the Democrats actual agenda because no one would believe the Democrats were that radical.

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