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Jonathan Turley on the election and its effect on the lawfare against Trump — 8 Comments

  1. “Turley is one of those lawyers I came to deeply respect years ago. He’s an Independent, as far as I can tell . . . .”

    My best “take” is that he’s what a liberal used to be: a Hubert Humphrey / Pat Moynihan / John F. Kennedy liberal. Someone with whom I might disagree, but the disagreement would be cordial if not genial. We would be disagreeing in good faith [no “fascist”s]. He and his kind would be people by whom I’d rather not be governed, but I could live happily under their governance. (And I would not fear for my progeny’s well-being.)

    In short, to me, Turley is a liberal with his head screwed on (as far as I can discern).

  2. I like Turley, just as I like Glenn Greenwald. Both are liberal, but what I think of them as ‘principled’ liberals. They don’t ignore reality, and have no trouble admitting truth when they see it, regardless whether it helps their case or not.

  3. I can’t possibly dispute any of Professor Turley’s points, and I agree with all of them anyway, so I will put on my grammar-maven (nazi?) hat and pick on his rhetoric, because he does something here that irritates me about a LOT of writers, because it’s careless.

    “It was the mainstream-media-versus-new media election; the Rogan-versus-Oprah election; the establishment-versus-a-disassociated-electorate election.”

    He’s setting up a parallelism that’s fine and correct, but watch the twist in the middle:
    mainstream media VS new media
    Rogan VS Oprah
    establishment VS disassociated electorate

    If you know noting about the two celebrities, what team would you put Joe Rogan on based on these comparisons?

    People do that all the time — because they know what they mean — and it not only ruins the rhetorical effect, it is confusing. Even when I know what they are referring to (Oprah and Rogan clearly should be switched around), I have to do it in my head and that takes effort and distracts from the main points being made.

    For people who don’t know all the players, it’s a mess.

    /rant

  4. I concur with AesopFan (6:03 pm). As a closely related example, one of the many pointers that were shown to me in an excellent technical writing class I took, was:

    If the writer lists points (1), (2), and (3), the writer should subsequently take up the points /in that order/ (rather than touch on them willy-nilly, or in a different order).

    In like manner, the parallelism of mainstream media versus new media should be maintained throughout. It’s good, organized writing, and yes, otherwise, it “takes [additional and unnecessary] effort and distracts from the main points being made.”

    Writing (and not just technical writing) ought to be reader-friendly; sometimes I find myself astonished at how reader-hostile some writing can be. Carry on, folks . . .

  5. The narcissistic virtue signalers of Tik Tok or MSNBC think they’re subject to concentration camps. The reality is that the vast right wing conspiracy doesn’t want them in jail; it wants them front and center as the face of the Democratic Party.
    The ones I want in jail are those who destroyed people’s lives on the basis of trivial or non-existent crimes: Willis, Bragg, Smith and most of all Merrick Garland.

  6. The lawfare made it easy to tell who to ignore. Anybody who went on and on about the 34 indictments or the felony conviction or E.Jean Carroll and assumed that you didn’t know that it was all fugazy could safely be ignored.

  7. That Jean Carroll case. Didn’t even know which year it was supposed to have happened. Yea, I believe her. ( Sarcasm)

  8. I know lawyers. There’s all sorts of shady stuff in their internal communications.

    Trump better pick a good AG. I can’t do the job because I am the Special Knox County Attorney!

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