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  1. This afternoon, polls and the betting market all suddenly switch to Harris. Why? Gaslighting to suppress voter turnout, or real?

    Betting very surprising as it’s had Trump between 60 to 70% for weeks, now at 49%.

  2. @physicsguy:This afternoon, polls and the betting market all suddenly switch to Harris. Why?

    Polls are a little easier to move, they just have to change their weighting methodology which isn’t transparent. Betting markets require movement of money so a little harder for a few players to do. But bettors might buy Harris for being undervalued, not necessarily more likely to win.

    Not an example you’d probably need, but if someone offered me 10-to-1 on rolling seven with two dice I would buy it because the real odds are 5-to-1, not because throwing seven is more likely than not throwing seven.

  3. At least I have enough Scotch to last me awhile if Harris wins. Which I think she will.

  4. I don’t believe that the Democrats would win anywhere near as often with the old voting process. Let’s go back.

  5. The betting market can be influenced by a sudden increase in money bet. In horse racing, the odds are a product of the amount bet on individual horses. As one horse gathers a lot of bets to win, the odds will decrease (which determines the payout), Smart horse owners with a horse that is highly apt to win a particular race will place their bet, or the bulk of them, with the bookie in the back of the barbershop. Those bets do not enter into the track’s calculations.

    In the present case, if someone wished to change the betting odds on the election they could just make some sizeable bets for Kamala to win…. Enough money “invested” could make a difference. What you are seeing may be no indication of a change in voter’s preferences.

  6. It astonishes me how there can be any defense for a non-citizen voting. Either you are a citizen and can vote, or you are a non-citizen and can’t vote. What’s to defend?

  7. Any action which improves the integrity of American elections isn’t a win for Republicans.

    It is a win for America. And we need many of them, if the nation is to survive.

  8. Always amazing no judge wants to touch vote fraud with a 10 foot pole proving again and again vote fraud doesn’t happen.
    Hear no evil, see no evil is the name of the game.

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  10. Apparently Trump has learned from his mistake, made the first time around, and has set up his own “Transition Team,” one entirely separate from, and which does not rely on input or suggestions from the Federal government or the GSA about who is to staff his incoming Administration.

    It was the traditional system which, after all, apparently salted the incoming first Trump Administration with all sorts of anti-Trump people, intent on setting up roadblocks to the implementation of the President’s Agenda.

    Should President Trump win, I’d assume that many of his first acts in office will be in the nature of firing/cleaning out holdovers and any “stay behind forces” that the Democrats might have emplaced.

    It may be quite hard to first, identify these operatives and, then, to fire them, given Civil Service rules, regulations, and procedures designed–practically speaking–to make firing a civil servant a long and arduous, sometimes nearly an almost impossible task.

    That’s why, if Republicans attain majorities in both the House and the Senate, one of the first major pieces of legislation they should pass will have to be a thorough–top to bottom– reform of the entire Civil Service system.

  11. Hmm, might this be the “October/November Surprise”?
    “Immigrants already tip scales of US elections without even voting“—

    https://nypost.com/2024/11/01/opinion/immigrants-already-tip-scales-of-us-elections-without-even-voting/
    Opening grafs:

    Immigrants don’t need to have the right to vote to affect elections in the United States — simply by being here, they can tip the scales.

    The apportionment of House seats and votes in the Electoral College among the states is based on total population — not citizenship or legal status.

    Because the legal and illegal immigrant population is so large and unevenly distributed across the country, it causes some states to gain seats in the U.S. House of Representatives and Electoral College at the expense of others.

    Equally important, immigration shifts political representation away from American citizens and toward states and districts with large non-citizen populations….

  12. @Barry Meislin:Hmm, might this be the “October/November Surprise”?

    Reapportionment is every ten years so no, last one was January 2023.

  13. JFM,

    I agree with your premise that only citizens should get to vote, at least at the federal level, but it’s not a ludicrous argument to make that those who live under a regime get to vote on who makes the laws of the regime and administers them. If people are living and working in an area, spending money there, paying sales taxes… should they have a say in how that area is administered?

  14. I see a lot of old names here from the normal 2019 era. A lot of has changed. Maybe th arrogance of the humans here have experienced a humility as I prophesied?

    Still think you can “manage” the minor fraud in these selections? I will show you otherwise.

    As I prophesied to Neo, when you ban FE theory as prn, hat allows me to use ALphabet and thee goverenment to ban you. How did you like that in 2020, 2021, and other times you tried to talk abou waxxinee and stolen elections? Remmber that in your soul, for that is called karma. You will get more though.

    I got somtehing special for you Mr Barry Meislin. 2020 was just an appetizer. Many of you need moree discipline and more strict guidance/punishment before you will learn. Pain is very useful teaching mthod, as th qabal red shields have shown me. Many of you have too much human ego arrogance to learn otherwise.

    As for me, I have underwent a divine dna transformation. My world view is not the same, but yet also un changed. Farewell to those going to the zombie timelines. The culling has only begun. In your world that you made with your hands and karma, there won’t be people like me to save you any more.

    Also physicsguy, enjoying what I did to your precious classical physics yet? Heh, wait there is more. Just keep living and you will see it.

  15. @ymarsakar:

    Uh…OK.

    @everyone else;

    For what it’s worth, I’ve known folks who place bets on the candidate who is opposing their own candidate. That way, if their candidate loses, at least they will have the consolation of winning some money. YMMV.

  16. @ Barry > “Immigrants already tip scales of US elections without even voting“—

    So what happens when they DO vote?
    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2024/10/on_non_citizens_voting.html

    By Elliott Hirsch
    One of the things that everyone is discussing this election cycle is non-citizens voting in federal elections. Some folks (“progressives,” Democrats, various “wok”’ types, and leftists) claim that it does not occur. Or, if it does, it’s extremely rare and is so insignificant that it does not affect election outcomes.

    These arguments are false. First of all, no serious audits have even been conducted on elections (of which I’m aware). This is an absurdity as every single ballot that is cast can be matched to a registered voter — and should be. T

    Recently, there have been many court battles and stories in the news about non-citizens being removed from the voter rolls. In most cases the numbers are suspiciously low and any reasonable person could conclude that they are a fig leaf, done only for the purpose of being able to say that something was done as opposed to a serious effort.

    Anecdotal and physical evidence as to the magnitude of this problem has been growing. My personal experience with this dates back to 2000 when Bush was running against Snore. [Gore] At that time I was working in technology management and one of my employees was a naturalized U.S. citizen. His wife, a German, was not, though she did have a green card. Even though she had been in the U.S. for over 10 years, she did not become a citizen — in fact she loudly proudly proclaimed that she was not a U.S. citizen.

    Most of the time when she would launch into her diatribes, folks ignored her, but that changed when the election season began. She was enraged that Bush was running against Gore and loudly declared that “I am going to vote for Gore” and started to exhort everyone to do the same.

    Knowing that she was not a citizen I finally confronted her about voting. At first she said that it was not illegal. With just a little research I was able to prove her wrong. That didn’t matter; she laughed it off and told me that she had voted in every election since she got her green card.

    With several adult beverages in her, she proceeded to gleefully outline her participation over more than a decade. But the worst part came when she added that every non-citizen that she knew (and it was several hundred) also voted in most major elections too.

    That type of activity was occurring in 2000, which means it’s certainly occurring today in much larger amounts. It’s pretty clear that these votes do not reflect conservative values and even if they do become citizens, they probably vote the same as they did when they did so illegally.

    It is disingenuous to believe that the government does not know who is and who is not a citizen in the United States.

    With over 25 million illegals and the “legal” parolees (Haitians, H1B, etc.) we probably have approximately 40 to 50 million folks living in the United States who are not eligible to vote in elections. If only 10% vote, that is 5 million votes or an average of 100,000 votes per state. More than enough to throw the election in many states.

  17. The 800 pound Gorilla in the room no one wants to poke is the one who counts the votes in many places, and does it with a lot more smoke and mirrors than is necessary for a straight up adding math problem.

  18. Thanks, ymarsakar!
    Welcome back to this end of the universe.
    Glad to hear about the transformation….
    (I’m trying to work on my humility, but it ain’t easy.)

  19. John Fetterman seems to be an interesting character.
    At times his instincts are—shockingly, for a Democrat—on track.
    At others it seems that he really should work on adjusting those meds of his…
    This interview with Joe Rogan would appear to be one of those times:
    “‘A Coordinated Effort’ To Rig States – Rogan Exposes Democrats’ Plan To Destroy American Democracy…”—
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/coordinated-effort-rig-states-rogan-exposes-democrats-plan-destroy-american-democracy

    File under: Would the genuine John Fetterman please stand up!

  20. Barry Meislin, on the Gatestone link: Fortunately, an agreement between the Biden/Harris administration and any foreign entity or organization is not binding if not ratified by the Senate. If, perchance, Trump is elected, he can cancel it immediately, or a the very least, it will not get through the Senate.

    It seems that Google is already doing the bidding of the WEF in suppressing expression it doesn’t favor. I avoid using Google to the greatest extent possible.

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