Love-gone-bad songs
If you look at the topic broadly, probably more than half of popular songs are about heartbreak or love gone bad. But I was thinking about a particular sort of heartbreak – the lover who was never sincere, the one who was always fooling you right from the start, and you were the fool. I can think of three such songs that remind me of each other although they’re quite different musically:
The lyrics tell you right at the beginning:
Here the disillusionment takes a tiny bit longer. I love the biting quality Thompson puts into his voice:
And of course there are the Bee Gees, kings of the broken heart. They’re not quite as bitter, but still – when the singer wakes up, she’s gone, and he didn’t see it coming and doesn’t have a clue why. Maybe you can tell him:
This isn’t exactly about the same theme. But hey, I love it, and it’s close enough:
Back to the Bee Gees – as songwriters, anyway. The great Dionne Warwick here:
I’ve always found the saddest songs to be about the love of a good woman for a worthless man.
I know of one sad song, where it’s not obvious which one is wronging the other, possibly both.
Well, at least in Norwegian Wood, the guy gets back at her by burning her house down.
20+ years ago as I was going through my divorce, I was especially down while driving in to work and this song came on the radio. The lyrics seemed to perfectly encapsulate how I was feeling toward my ex — “You’re awful– I love you!” but did it in a comedic manner that brightened my mood, at least for that work shift. And the song still holds a place in my heart as a result, despite it not really being a song I’d listen to normally, much less on repeat or anything —
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XH3oMNKApI
Yes it’s a great genre. My favorites are Feel a While lot Better by the Byrds, and Walk Away Renee by the Left Banke The sneaky one that goes way back to early 60s is Red Rubber Ball by the Cyrkle. Upbeat joyful sounding song about a guy really pissed at his ex girl friend.
And let’s not forget the man taken in by the beautiful but faithless girl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFch8vH81ks
This song has spawned countless videos of couples ballroom dancing to it. It is a great song for that sort of dancing.
In the never-was-sincere category, Gordon Lightfoot’s ‘For Lovin’ Me’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRdo5XjEj0w
and Tom Russell, El Llano Estacado
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bz-PxB_4iA
Physicsguy…Red Rubber Ball, by The Cyrkle:
A college girl I’d had a crush on for some time, with varying degrees of reciprocated interest, moved to California. A few days late, that song came on the radio.
It helped.
Today I listened to Black Pegasus responding to the immortal Joan Jett:
–“Rapper FIRST time REACTION to Joan Jett & the Blackhearts – I Hate Myself for Loving You!!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jWeeRABzPw
BP is a rapper and went in to the reaction biz knowing very little about rock. He usually doesn’t even know what decade a rock song is from. But he dug Joan Jett.
What we humans will do to keep a love gone bad….
“You see it all around you:
Good loving gone bad,
And usually it’s too late when you
Realize what you had.”
Emmylou Harris, Easy From Now On
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CZcXqA_I2w
On the other side of the male-female fence, here’s the Kingston Trio singing about a poor guy traveling on business, worried about what his gal Sue is up to while he is gone.
My parents played it when I was a kid and I loved the catchiness, though I had no idea what the song was about.
So it seems that our narrator comes home early from a business trip and hides in the closet. I get it now. 🙂
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Well, Bobby’s in the living room, holding hands with Sue.
Nickie’s at that big front door, ’bout to come on through.
Well, I’m here in the closet. Oh, Lord, what shall I do?
We’re worried now but we won’t be worried long.
It takes a worried man to sing a worried song.
It takes a worried man to sing a worried song.
It takes a worried man to sing a worried song.
I’m worried now, but I won’t be worried long.
–The Kingston Trio, “Worried Man – In Color!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVivHNhf638
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It’s fun to see the Kingston boys in color.
Fun Fact: Hollywood put a pilot together for a sitcom starring the zany life of the Kingston Trio years before the Monkees.
But it was a pilot that went nowhere.
File under: “Take another little piece of my heart now, baby…”
I didnt know the context
https://youtu.be/EbDKN0dk54M?si=-zCP1RxApfACO9iJ
Back in the day rock groups (particularly The Beatles) were frequently accused of incorporating drug references into their lyrics. This was the take on Norwegian Wood by some. That was supposedly code for a type of marijuana. Hence at the end of the song, the guy simply lit up a joint (so, I lit a fire. Isn’t it good..) and made the best of it.
I’m probably a couple of years older than Neo but I bet she remembers these accusations. Some were probably true, but Puff the Magic Dragon??? Come. On.
Though the song was variously recorded, I believe Paul Simon wrote “Red Rubber Ball.”
I think highly of Richard Thompson as a songwriter, but even when he’s singing other people’s material, I absolutely adore his voice.
I dont know if its on topic, but i like the song
https://youtu.be/vzBOG-QW3_E?si=_laEn21ly3Sv8g0h
Because of the film and diane lane
Yes paul simon was on that song somewhere
I never tire of Norwegian Wood, but if you mention that you need to include 4th Time Around
This was the take on Norwegian Wood by some. That was supposedly code for a type of marijuana…
chazzand:
Perhaps.
My favorite: “Norwegian Wood” was a pun for “Knowing She Would.”
Isn’t it good … knowing she would.
John did like puns. He published a book of miscellany titled “A Spaniard in the Works” for the phrase “a spanner in the works.”
Of course it might have been a specific detail he heard on a one-night stand.
John had a great ear for words. Hence the titles he picked up from Ringo like “A Hard Day’s Night.”
I never tire of Norwegian Wood, but if you mention that you need to include 4th Time Around
avi:
Oh, don’t tease. 🙂
“4th Time Around” is one of Dylan’s great song parodies, pitch perfect for “Norwegian Wood.” You’ve got to hear it to get it.
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I stood there and hummed
I tapped on her drum and asked her how come
And she buttoned her boot
And straightened her suit
Then she said, “Don’t get cute”
So I forced my hands in my pockets
And felt with my thumbs
And gallantly handed her
My very last piece of gum
–Bob Dylan, “Fourth Time Around”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaYo3cn_Qp4
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Dylan is always up to something.
No disrespect to Dionne Warwick, but here’s Led Zeppelin’s “Heartbreaker” song. No small part of Zep’s appeal was to burned guys:
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Well, it’s been ten years or maybe more since I first set eyes on you
The best years of my life gone by, here I am alone and blue
Some people cry and some people die by the wicked ways of love
But I’ll just keep on rollin’ along with the grace of the Lord above
People talkin all around ’bout the way you left me flat
I don’t care what the people say, I know where their jive is at
One thing I do have on my mind if you can clarify, please do
It’s the way you call me another guy’s name
When I try to make love to you, yeah
–Led Zeppelin, “Heartbreaker”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5O4073zCKA
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Withering.
Nightwish’s Romanticide (Wacken 2013 version)
God love and rest my soul
With this sun down, never ending
The feeling is gone, yet you ain’t gonna see me fail
I am the decadence of your world
I am an eider covered in oil
Happy hunting, you double-faced carnivore
https://youtu.be/zz_7OCCQlXs?si=vMywtf79vzaXOwSV
(and Nightwish’s current lead singer) Floor Jansen’s side project Northward and her song “While Love Died”:
You love me, you hate me, would you please decide
We’ve fed hatred through the things we didn’t say
I guess honesty sometimes really breaks things up
I love you, I hate you and can’t I decide what feels better when darkn
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/northward-while-love-died-lyrics.html
https://youtu.be/bAiPeSsqD-4?si=9SXQIE5O6SCLCJEl
For once I have time to respond to a thread before it times away
From a somewhat later sensibility:
Annie Lennox (formerly of Eurythmics): her cover of The Clash “Train in Vain” ca 1995. Wonderfully direct – wonderfully overproduced
She has a couple of other good candidates. Her best known piece from this epoch would be “Walking on Broken Glass”.
I always thought of “Norwegian Wood” as failed seduction, not love gone bad. I don’t hear any love in it.
RIchard Thompson’s “Tear-stained Letter” is a good example of using humor to cope with the situation–not only the lyrics but a very lively upbeat tune.
Paul Simon did indeed write “Red Rubber Ball.”
A song not mentioned so far: “Don’t Think Twice, It’s All Right.” Lost love? Or love never found? Regardless, very sad.
I always thought of “Norwegian Wood” as failed seduction, not love gone bad. I don’t hear any love in it.
Mac:
Me neither.
Though I doubt Lennon “crawled off to sleep in the bath.” As I recall, Lennon explained the oblique lyrics as his attempt to shield his wife, Cynthia, from an affair he had had.
For me the ultimate revenge fantasy to Love Gone Bad is:
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Right now, he’s probably slow dancing
With a bleached-blonde tramp
And she’s probably getting frisky
Right now, he’s probably buying her some fruity little drink
‘Cause she can’t shoot a whiskey
Right now, he’s probably up behind her with a pool-stick
Showing her how to shoot a combo
And he don’t know
I dug my key into the side
Of his pretty little souped up four-wheel drive
Carved my name into his leather seats
I took a Louisville Slugger to both headlights
Slashed a hole in all four tires
Maybe next time, he’ll think before he cheats
–Carrie Underwood, “Before He Cheats (Official Video)” (2005)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaSy8yy-mr8
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Incredible songwriting and Underwood brings it in the spectacular video with a Stephen King “Carrie” ending.
“Red Rubber Ball” was co-written by Paul Simon and Bruce Woodley (of The Seekers).
One can see the songwriters’ credit on the 45 rpm single label pictured in the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U30jFXB3xXE
Please also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Rubber_Ball
Don’t know if Roy Orbison sang any songs that readers here would consider ‘Love-gone-bad songs’, but he could sure sing Oh, Pretty Woman.
Now that I reflect back in time – Only the Lonely is a LGB song. He probably had others I can’t remember…tho, Crying was another one, IMHO.
Was good enough of a singer to make it into the Traveling Wilburys…
I agree that Norwegian Wood a not a love-gone-bad song.
I always misheard “Told her I didn’t [work in the morning] and crawled off to sleep in the bath” as ”told her I didn’t come up to sleep in the bath.”
Never considered that the last line meant arson, but it fits. 🙂 It’s a pleasant ditty with muddled lyrics, a possible drug reference, and a groovy sitar!
https://www.songfacts.com/lyrics/the-beatles/norwegian-wood-this-bird-has-flown
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(Hey Won’t You Play) Another Somebody Done Somebody Wrong Song
by B.J. Thomas
https://youtu.be/QyrRYIrhLL0
If you play Norwegian Wood backward at 78 rpm you will hear a man who sounds like Gilbert Gottfried chanting “my uncle is sick but the highway is green.”
Karmi (4:31 pm), I’m a dyed-in-the-wool Roy Orbison fan going all the way back to mid-1960 (“Only The Lonely”).
In addition to that one and “Crying”, I’d call “In Dreams” a ‘Love-gone-bad song’:
“But just before the dawn
I awake and find you gone.
I can’t help it, I can’t help it, if I cry,
I remember that you said good bye.”
And I certainly must include “It’s Over”:
“It breaks your heart in two, to know she’s been untrue
But oh what will you do? when she said to you
There’s someone new, we’re through, we’re through,
It’s over.”
The Big O had a few others, but of much lesser renown, and of much lesser interest here.
(Both “Running Scared” and “Oh Pretty Woman” had their suspenseful angst, but in the end in each case, he did get the woman of his desires — until the next tear-jerker.)
Karmi (4:31 pm) said that Roy Orbison “Was good enough of a singer to make it into the Traveling Wilburys.”
That’s an understatement.
– Jeff Lynne had loved Roy’s singing since his (Jeff’s) childhood.
– George Harrison was moved by Roy’s talent since The Beatles and Roy toured together*.
– Tom Petty, of a younger generation, looked up to Roy (“I get his autograph whenever we gather.”)
– Bob Dylan was very impressed with Roy’s talent and versatility.
* that tour was set up with Roy as the headliner and the Beatles as the second act. Roy was immensely popular in the U.K., but by the time the tour began, Beatlemania had taken hold and you might know the rest. BUT John (Lennon) had remarked to Roy, you’re making all the money [which he was (figuratively but not literally) for that tour], why don’t you be the opening act? Roy said, well okay, and long-story-short is, on opening night, I’m very sure it was George who remarked with some admiration and a little shock, “he’s got them [the audience] eating out of the palm of his hand”. Roy did over a dozen encores (fourteen I believe), and finally, John and Paul each took an Orbison armpit and physically carried him off the stage, saying “Yankee, go home!” Source: both official and unofficial Orbison biographies.
But I digress [smile] . . .
M J R said ‘Bob Dylan was very impressed with Roy’s talent and versatility.‘ Talk about an “understatement,” M J R!? 😉
Dylan said of Roy:
Karmi (5:44 pm), that is *exactly* the sort of Dylan quotation I had in mind when I wrote that “Dylan was very impressed with Roy’s talent and versatility.”
The quotation you’re citing reads a lot like the one I had in mind, maybe identical [not, see addendum below], maybe a different excerpt from a longer quote, but either way, absolutely the same deal in spirit and in intent.
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No, it’s a different quotation [I found it but it’s in a PDF and it can’t simply be copied-‘n’-pasted]. But again, it’s in very much the same spirit and intent.
I can’t help myself. Whenever I hear the Joan Jett song, I hear, “I hate myself for loving Jews.”
Speaking of Joanie, her “Runaways” band mate Cherie Currie still performs and is also a chainsaw artist and Trump supporter. And what is really interesting is that Cherie is hotter now, IMHO, than she was in the 70s.
Okay, copied it in . . .
“Orbison transcended all the genres — folk, country, rock and roll, or just about anything. His stuff mixed all the styles and some that hadn’t even been invented yet. With Roy, you didn’t know if you were listening to mariachi or opera. He kept you on your toes. There wasn’t anything else on the radio like him.” — Bob Dylan
Back in the day, as a fraternity graduate adviser, I heard…stories. From both men and women.
One which, as far as I can tell, the songs above don’t note is the faithful lover who….changes his or her mind almost overnight.
He/she was sincere until….he/sne wasn’t.
Most of the songs presume a degree of maturity. The extended adolescence of a residential college might have precluded at least some of that progress.
As Bill and Laura were really hot for one another most of a year, then Bill got Jenny as a lab partner in the chem class….
It’s certainly a heartbreak for one of the parties, but not because of a history of the other party’s deceit.
The song I thought of for this thread was a little less known. Great song, though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqB4V9PfWrc
Ooops!
re Lennox
Forgot the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGI0SyrBaZw
Elvis Costello’s first album, “My Aim Is True,” was practically a litany of Love Gone Bad or at least sideways. The standout in that respect:
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You’re upstairs with the boyfriend while I’m left here to listen
I hear you calling out his name; I hear the stutter of ignition
I could hear you whispering as I crept by your door
So you found some other joker who could please you more
I’m not angry
I’m not angry anymore
I’m not angry
I’m not angry anymore
Ooh, I know what you’re doing
I know where you’ve been
I know where, but I don’t care
‘Cause there’s a-no such thing as an original sin
–Elvis Costello, “I’m Not Angry” (1977)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_RckIrjWUk
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No, he’s not angry. He’s moved on to cold rage!
Great line about original sin.
Reading neo’s post I immediately thought of, “Perfidia.”
It’s been covered many times by many artists. Linda Ronstadt did a beautiful rendition: https://youtu.be/y35rY5VMOY0?si=7WxlcKOp5TGfUeje
I’m not sure it fits precisely, because I think she’s going into as half-heartedly as the man she’s connecting with, but I also thought of Joni Mitchell’s, “Court and Spark.”
And I thought of Looking Glass’, “Brandy.”
In that case, he isn’t trying to fool the girl, Brandy, but she enters the relationship knowing it’s ill fated from the start and is destined to walk the streets alone.
Maybe not quite on topic, it’s more about unrequited love, but it’s a beautiful song, doesn’t get enough attention and sort-of fits, “Pearl of the Quarter,” by Steely Dan.
Like Gordon Sumner’s, “Roxeanne,” written 5 years later, it’s about a man who falls in love with a prostitute, and is thus doomed to never having her for his own. The melody is beautiful.
@ huxley > “It takes a worried man to sing a worried song.”
“My parents played it when I was a kid and I loved the catchiness, though I had no idea what the song was about.
So it seems that our narrator comes home early from a business trip and hides in the closet.”
I don’t remember ever hearing the song, but it may be that it’s an inversion of this joke current at the time (Reader’s Digest??) or vice versa.
A businessman comes home unexpectedly in the middle of the day, goes to the closet to hang up his jacket, and finds a mostly-undressed stranger.
“What are you doing here?” he exclaims angrily.
The man shrugs and replies, “Everybody gotta be somewhere!”
I had no idea what the joke was about until much later in life, but I loved the punchline.
The Kingston Trio’s song is probably a parody of this one, which I learned a couple of years ago out of a basic ukulele book:
Wikipedia:
Oddly enough, the tune is very similar to a gospel song that I learned as a child, and they may come from the same root; I haven’t done enough research to find out:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Lord_Remember_Me
You can find lots of covers of both of them online.
I liked the resonance enough to make a pastiche of the two, alternating verses from each, until the erstwhile prisoner reforms his life and successfully petitions the Lord to remember him, after which he will never be worried again.
The genre itself is very old. I can’t name any medieval or renaissance versions right now (been up too late too long!) but here’s an old music-hall standard I learned about 60 years ago. It’s a lovely ballad tune.
I Wonder Who’s Kissing Her Now?
(Note: I had to correct the lyrics at Wikipedia – replaced the duplicated “now” in the second line of the chorus with “how” and repaired the punctuation.)
Well, duh.
This one is still sung, 400 years on.
Wikipedia: “A broadside ballad by the name “A Newe Northen Dittye of ye Ladye Greene Sleves” was registered by Richard Jones at the London Stationers’ Company in September 1580″
Not all 8 verses though.
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/Traditional-folk-song-Greensleeves-lyrics.html
PS: Wiki is a kill-joy.
“It is a common myth that Greensleeves was written by King Henry VIII. However, Henry did not write Greensleeves[4][5][6] as the piece is based on an Italian style of composition that did not reach England until after his death.”
Although we don’t sing any of these today, the medieval courtiers sang almost exclusively of unrequited love, because, reasons.
https://www.medievalists.net/2013/02/i-want-what-i-cannot-have-medieval-love-literature-explained/
Oops. Forgot to close the blockquote before going to the next link.
Well elvis married diana krall so its all good
1580 that would be the time of queen elizabeth
Billy Field “You Weren’t in Love with Me.”
Sad song.
Two songs about men who’s women get wise and give them a taste of their own medicine; Johnny Taylor’s, “Who’s Making Love?” and Z.Z. Hill’s, “Someone Else is Steppin’ In.”
Both have some amusing lyrics, especially, “Someone Else is Steppin’ in.”
I like a couple of songs with Tom Petty & Stevie Nicks
Stop Draggin My Heart Around
https://youtu.be/d3QKLQ953qs?si=CoaCJFol3LMNLgXm
I Need To Know
https://youtu.be/OnpdZU8lhus?si=yX8a-Bo2lzyOUKws
Bad Company. Good Lovin Gone Bad.
I was a simpleton and needed it fully explained.