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Open thread 10/8/2024

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This movie made a very deep impression on me when I saw it on television as a child. Here are some interesting facts about its filming:

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Open thread 10/8/2024 — 29 Comments

  1. Abrahamic Religion’s voters not voting this year?!? Mormons neither?

    Millions of Christians not planning to vote this November

    The Cultural Research Center at Arizona Christian University study found that approximately 104 million people under the “people of faith” umbrella are not expected to vote this election, including 41 million Christians and 32 million of whom regularly go to church.

    The “people of faith” label is given to those who identify with a recognized religion, such as Christianity, Judaism, Mormonism or Islam.

    The study found that approximately 104 million people under the “people of faith” umbrella are not expected to vote this election, including 41 million born-again Christians and 32 million who regularly go to church.

    Muslims have been threatening not to vote, but this is the first that I have heard about Christians not voting.

    Just the News seems to be a RWM (right-wing media) news site started by Trump supporter John Solomon in January of 2020.

    The Cultural Research Center @ Arizona Christian University did the study – 2024 Pre-Election Research – Report #1. More in-depth than the news article.

  2. She was 19 at the time. Not sure how old she was in the video. A beautiful woman. One of our favorites is The Quiet Man.

  4. Just a comment on yesterday’s discussion about Jewish voters being overwhelmingly in blue states where their vote doesn’t matter. While that is technically true, there are large enough Jewish populations in several swing states to make a difference: Over 400,000 in PA, 100,000 in MI, 150,000 in VA, and 140,000 in GA. The margins in these states could be 10,000 to 20,000 votes, and Jews tend to vote in higher percentages than most groups. If Jews shift from, say, 75% D to 60% D or lower, it could swing the election.

    Of course you could say the same about almost any group (Blacks, Hispanics, etc.). But Jews arguably have the biggest case for switching from D to R this year.

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-population-in-the-united-states-by-state

  5. Will the Dem response to Kamala’s dud interview with CBS be to pressure Trump to sit through an interview with CBS, or else call him cowardly?
    It doesn’t matter, of couse, that he previously has sat through many tough interviews.

  6. People seem to be making a big deal about a pre-taped 60 minutes interview conducted with Kamala and Walz which evidently went horribly. I’m skeptical that such a dismal performance on the part of Kamala will make a huge difference though. As we all know, people aren’t going to be voting for Kamala because she’s qualified or competent or for any other reason that’s speaks well of her. Rather, they’ll be voting against Trump. At this point I’m fairly certain Kamala could cook and eat a baby on live TV and still get at least 40% of the vote, maybe even 45%. This is how deluded and derranged a huge number of our fellow American Citizens have become.

  7. Look, Trump needs to QUIT talking to the < 10 % of women who want to have an abortion and START TALKING to the 90% of women who want to raise their children, and raise them in a world at peace, in a country enjoying prosperity!

    He needs to say clearly that war is not caused by strength, it is caused by weakness, and Kamala is weak! It is not caused by standing up for principles, it is caused by appeasement, and Kamala is an appeaser! Kamala has NO international experience! Ask why she is protecting Iran instead of Israel, when Iran is a worldwide sponsor of terror?!

    Most of all he needs to state these few messages repeatedly and EXCLUSIVELY… don't waste your time and ours with the past! Those of us who can understand it are already voting for you! DON'T give the media the chance to report ANYTHING ELSE – screw the one-liners and quips. GET ON MESSAGE and STAY ON MESSAGE!!

    Somebody tell him before it's too late!!

  8. @Jimmy: But Jews arguably have the biggest case for switching from D to R this year.

    I’m not sure what this is based on, but take an extreme case someone like Chuck Schumer. He is a Democrat, he is Jewish, and he knows all about what the various factions in his party want to do about Israel.

    So why doesn’t he change parties? If Israel is supposed to be the issue that would incent Jews to switch, either the security of Israel is not his primary concern, or he thinks Israel is not endangered by helping the Democrats stay in power.

    And there are millions of Jews like him: either they don’t believe Democrats are going endanger Israel, or Israel is just not as important as other things.

    As for Jews in the swing states, they are concentrated in those deep-blue precincts that are going count the ballots in whatever way they need to: if a lot of Jews were to switch they’d just have to find some more ballots to offset them or find some red ballots to reject…

  9. The Biden-Harris administration amended a Bush-era directive against the assassination of Americans as it pertains to law enforcement activities in intelligence collection and national security.

    The Defense Department appears to have removed language asserting that “under no circumstances shall any” component or employee of the federal body “engage in, or conspire to engage in, assassination.”

    “Odd thing to change. Especially stripping the ‘under no circumstances,’” Winters said

    “With just months left in office the Biden-Harris regime decided to update the 17 year old Bush-era directive against assassin@tion of Americans,” the page, which uses uses AI and satire to report on news, wrote.

    “Why would the regime feel the need to legalize killing Americans who threaten the foundations of our democracy?” the page added.

    =========

    I guess now it would be legal to call up seal team 6 and inform them of what their next goal is…

  10. He is a Democrat, he is Jewish, and he knows all about what the various factions in his party want to do about Israel.

    So why doesn’t he change parties?

    Oh, we are not talking about Soros? my bad…

  11. The donks are in a no-win situation and they know it. This is panic fire. They know Harris has the gravitas of smoke. You could see terror in Oprah’s face.

  12. Niketas: Of course I was talking about voters changing, not politicians. And yes, the Dems will try to cheat, but that’s a given.

    According to the link below, Trump went from 24% of the Jewish vote in 2016 to 30% in 2020. 35-40% this time would not be surprising. Reagan got nearly 40% in 1980.

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-voting-record-in-u-s-presidential-elections

    And I should have included Arizona as another swing state with a sizable Jewish population (~120,000).

  13. So why doesn’t he change parties? If Israel is supposed to be the issue that would incent Jews to switch, either the security of Israel is not his primary concern, or he thinks Israel is not endangered by helping the Democrats stay in power.
    ==
    He’s a malevolent individual and he and his wife have been professionally enmeshed in the Democratic Party their whole lives.
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    Many American Jews are slack about Israel. Israeli Jews and American Jews have a very different understanding of social and political life.
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    What is anomalous about the Jewish population is that the other Ellis Island segments abandoned the Democratic Party in increments, especially after 1960. American Jews did not. If anything, self-identified Jews were more committed to the Democratic Party in 2016 than they were 40 years earlier. What’s curious about this is that Jews-in-general benefit from what John Rawls called a ‘system of natural liberty’, by which he meant equal liberty conjoined to careers-open-to-talents. Jews-qua-Jews do not benefit from the cultural valorization of divorce, sexual deviance, or other ethnic / racial groups. They don’t benefit from race patronage schemes. They don’t benefit from insecurity and disorder. They don’t benefit from untrustworthy courts. They don’t benefit from haphazard redistribution schemes. They don’t benefit from state allocation of ever escalating shares of one’s income. You organize fundraisers for the Democratic Party, you contribute to the Democratic Party, you vote for the Democratic Party and those things are what you get. (You also get vote fraud and abuse of the opposition; so far, street-level Democrats are pretending it isn’t happening). What gives? Now, maybe the realization that the Democratic Party is also the party of indulgence of Arab revanchists might cause enough dissonance to call attention to the Democratic Party’s practice in those other areas. A guy can dream.

  14. Can we call this an October surprise?
    https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2024/10/08/exclusive-40-us-soldiers-stuck-in-israel-on-october-7-n2180273

    Forty U.S. Army soldiers who were in Israel as the advance team for what they thought was a routine training exercise last October 7 suddenly found themselves in the middle of a war, unarmed, and being forced to beg reluctant Pentagon officials to send an Air Force plane to extract them.

    Approximately a quarter of the soldiers were just miles from Gaza in off-base housing near the IDF’s Tze’elim base when the attack began. A group of local Israelis – IDF reservists, police officers, and ordinary citizens – got them to the base, which Hamas terrorists were quickly heading toward. With his men in mortal danger, the U.S. team leader requested permission to open the arms locker so they could retrieve their firearms but was denied at the US Central Command level and “denied and/or ignored” at a level above that, according to a military intelligence analyst with knowledge of the mission and exfiltration.

    The rest of the soldiers had just arrived in Tel Aviv, where Hamas rockets were hitting near their hotels.

    The military intelligence analyst told RedState:
    …

    RTWT and most of the comments.

  17. BREAKING: 60 minutes just quietly *edited out* Kamala’s word salad answer on Israel. Unreal.

    Great catch by @mazemoore

    https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1843691119156310053

    Short video clip with “before” and “after” at link.

    Apparently too, the dimwit’s appearance on “The View” this morning wasn’t helpful at all, like, really bad not helpful.

  18. Gees, if a public company had this type of record keeping…. nice little slush fund you have there FEMA.

    “An August report from the Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Inspector General noted that in 2022, FEMA “estimated that 847 disaster declarations with approximately $73 billion in unliquidated funds remained open.”

    Drilling down on that data, the OIG found that $8.3 billion of that total was for disasters declared in 2012 or earlier.

    Such developments are part of a larger pattern in which FEMA failed to close out specific grant programs “within a certain timeframe, known as the period of performance (POP),” according to the IG report. Those projects now represent billions in unliquidated appropriations that could potentially be returned to the DRF (Disaster Relief Fund).”

    https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2024/10/06/untapped_relief_fema_is_sitting_on_billions_of_unused_disaster_funds_1063217.html

  19. This is from the GOES East satellite and it is a loop, so it may take a while to load.

    https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/sector_band.php?sat=G16&sector=gm&band=GEOCOLOR&length=24

    This is from the NOAA forecast discussion from this morning

    “The recent aircraft fixes show that Milton has turned a bit
    leftward and is moving toward the east-northeast (065/8 kt).
    Milton is forecast to turn northeastward and begin accelerating
    later today as it moves between a trough digging into the Gulf of
    Mexico and a ridge near the Greater Antilles. The track guidance
    is honed in on a landfall along the west-central coast of Florida
    sometime Wednesday night. However, it is critical to remember that
    even at 36-48 hours away, NHC’s track forecasts can be off by an
    average of 60-70 n mi, which means we still can’t pinpoint an exact
    landfall location, especially if the hurricane wobbles as it
    approaches the coast. After landfall, Milton is forecast to cross
    Florida and emerge over the Atlantic waters on Thursday.”

    https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCDAT4+shtml/081455.shtml?

    I was taking care of my aunt’s estate in 2004 in Ft Myers (Charley). The national weather people were saying it was going to Tampa as a Cat 2. The local weather guys thought that the storm was going to be a Cat 4 and make landfall closer to Ft. Myers. By that time, it was too late to evacuate. I just took basic tornado precautions. I still think that a twister passed close to me based on the the location and type of damage. My aunt’s house was not damaged, the one next door lost some shingles and the next one had more damage to the house and landscaping.

    The local guys were more accurate about the storm. But, I also trust the local OKC weather guys during tornado season since all of the tv stations have great radar systems, loads of storm chasers, and helicopters in the air.

  20. Tim Walz insists that he can be trusted, despite accusations of dishonesty

    Democratic Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz on Monday insisted that the American public can trust him to fulfill his promises this November if he’s elected as vice president, despite allegations that he has lied about things in the past.

    In Jail and/or Prison solitary blocks (block w/ one-man cells) one can hear the occasional ‘I’ll be Good!’ throughout the day and night. Mainly meant as a joke, i.e., ‘Let me go and I promise to be Good‘, in what is a difficult situation for many, but I don’t think Walz is joking… 😉

  22. The infamous Techno Fog lays the baby-sledge hammer on the Kamala Harris campaign in this one:

    Media Blitzes and Desperation

    “They’re not moving the needle.”

    An internal poll from Democrat Tammy Baldwin’s Senate campaign, for example, shows Trump up by 3% in Wisconsin. It’s getting to the point that Michigan Democrats have begged Kamala to do more events in that state, as she lags with union support and polls poorly with men. Her struggles in Michigan are not unique to that state – she faces the same problems in every other close race she needs to win, particularly Pennsylvania and Nevada.

    The sign of Democratic concern has always been whether Kamala and Tim Walz will do interviews. It’s risk reward: Kamala interviews poorly, and people seem to like her less the more they get to know her, but in such a close race where Kamala can’t seem to gain momentum, what are the other options?

    Their hand has been forced. The Democrats’ internal polls might not be totally public, save for the occasional leak, but her own people know “they’re not moving the needle.”

    And that gets us to where we are. Walz made a poor appearance on Fox this weekend, they’re hitting the late night circuit, and both were subjected to a relatively robust 60 Minutes interview, where Kamala struggled to explain her changes in policy and the disaster at the US-Mexican border.

    Not that it takes tough questions to stump the Democratic nominee. On today’s appearance on The View, Kamala was unable to differentiate herself from President Biden…

    This is one of Techno Fog’s free ones w/ charts & videos…check it out.

  23. Robert Saleh is FIRED by the Jets after miserable start to the NFL season

    NFL’s first ever Muslim-American head coach @ 2-3 seemed more focused on supporting Hezbollah than winning football games:

    The Jets have endured a miserable start to the NFL season despite star quarterback Aaron Rodgers being back to full health, with their latest setback against the Vikings leaving them with a losing 2-3 record.

    And just days on from that loss to Minnesota in London – where he controversially wore a Lebanon flag on the sidelines – Saleh has been relieved of his duties in New York.

    A head coach injecting politics into an NFL game was disgusting…

  24. I pretty much agree with Niketas about the Jewish vote, it simply is not important to Presidential elections. Maybe Jewish money has more influence, though it is questionable to what extent figures like Zuckerberg and Bezos actually represent American Jews.

    I think there are two reasons people talk about the “Jewish vote”. 1) though Jews have never comprised more than a small percentage of the vote, they have been concentrated in states – NY, PA, IL – that used to have a larger share of the electoral vote, back in the immediate postwar era. And NY wasn’t quite the automatic D that it is now. Anachronistic at this time. 2) the disparity between Jewish support for Democrats and the fact the Democrats keep drifting further from Israel. I have read that as long ago as the ’80s Republicans were more supportive of Israel than Democrats. But at the time it was by only a few percentage points. Now it is something like 20-30 points yet Jews keep voting D. Very frustrating for a lot of people, Jews and non-Jews alike.

  26. Perhaps conservatives have a tad more concern about Jews voting Democrat against Jewish interests, but I also notice a whole lot of conservative concern about Americans voting Democrat against American interests.

    TWANLOC — Those Who Are No Longer Our Countrymen.

    I’m not sure how that all stacks up in the larger scheme of things, but I think Neil Sedaka said it best:
    _______________________

    Kama-kama-down-doobie-doo-down-down!

    –Neil Sedaka, “Breaking Up Is Hard to Do (Remastered)”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M584bP_FeE

  28. As a possible companion piece to AF’s link @ 1:02 pm (which itself echoes “Biden”‘s notorious “success” in Afghanistan as well as the debacle in Benghazi during Ms. “What Difference Does it Make”‘s tenure as SecDef), here’s a must-read, comprehensive analysis of the current conflagration between Israel and Iran (and its proxies), and the 20-year lead-up to it.
    Should be read by anyone interested in the background of the latest rather concerted effort of Iran et al. to destroy the Jewish State…and also interested in why, since 1967, Israel’s “friends” have decided that while the Jewish State can be allowed to be battered it must NOT be allowed to achieve any victory of substance, which is why Netanyahu’s currently in a hurry to TRY to achieve something somewhat conclusive before those same “friends” decide it’s time to pull the curtain on him…and the country he leads.
    (I do find the final sentence of the analysis a bit problematic, though. Nonetheless, a masterpiece….)
    “The beginning of a reckoning: the Middle East after 7 October;
    “Recent military escalations in the Middle East have been at least 20 years in the making.”—
    https://engelsbergideas.com/author/jay-mens/
    H/T Powerline blog.

  29. And then there’s these two, also linked to by Powerline.
    1.
    “The Scroll: Oct. 7, 2024: One Year of War”—
    https://thedailyscroll.substack.com/p/oct-7-2024-one-year-of-war
    Here’s a key graf (RTWT)…just in case anyone hasn’t yet noticed what’s been happening since 2009—and what Trump was trying desperately to prevent during his presidency)…

    …During Biden’s first three years in office, Washington granted Iran the funds and the freedom of maneuver to build up capabilities on Israel’s border while telegraphing to the axis that Washington would restrain the Israelis from devastating retaliation. While the attacks briefly chastened the United States, at least in terms of its rhetoric, they left its core posture unchanged, which is why the U.S.-Israeli relationship has become increasingly tense over the past year. When U.S. officials rend their garments over “Gazans” or “Rafah” or “the Lebanese people” or the impossibility of eradicating the “idea” of Hamas, what [the US is] actually saying is: We must preserve the Realignment [with Iran]. In hard-policy terms, that means protecting Iranian equities from Israel. In soft-power terms, it means fanning the flames of “anti-Zionist” resentment in order to paint the Israelis as irrational, bloodthirsty genocidaires bent on dragging the world into war. For the faux-sophisticated crowd who would be embarrassed to be caught in a kaffiyeh, there’s always the line that “Bibi” is prolonging the war to ensure his “political survival.” For the streets, there’s the jubilant celebration of rape and murder and the chants of Khaybar, Khaybar, O Yahud! Both are ultimately versions of the same message, with the same source…. [Emphasis mine; Barry M.]

    2.
    “Israel at war: democracy in action”—
    https://thedailyscroll.substack.com/p/oct-7-2024-one-year-of-war

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