Abortion is a major issue—and both sides have their fanatics. I recently stated My view on September 28, 2024 at 10:11 pm in the OT 9/28. Decade or two ago, I used to think the man should also have a say, but at some point within the past decade I felt the fetus is a growing/developing human—the 3rd being involved and should also have a ‘Say’.
Does anyone here know if a fetus can be safely removed and kept alive some other way?
Adopt a fetus…so to speak.
Good thing Putin hasn’t sent these dancers to the front.
But they probably live in fear of that; all because of Biden’s weakness.
You can’t hate Biden enough for the damage he has done to the world.
Suchomimus, “Israel missile strike on Russian airbase in Syria! Hmeimim airbase targeted.”, (4:01): https://youtu.be/lIcQTG_Xjuw
Iranian transport plane (and cargo presumably) were the point of attention. Still, I believe this is a first, and a slightly risky first at that. Only slightly, because Russian overreach in Syria (to say nothing of Ukraine) has left them with distinct vulnerabilities there, vulnerabilities which Israel has tolerated heretofore but apparently can no longer. Bashar Assad should start looking for an escape country, and quickly. His time is growing short.
If only women older than, say, 30 years of age voted on what should be the abortion laws, how would they vote??
Abortion up to the time of birth?
Only allowed the first 1? 2? 3? ……9th? month?
Only allowed in situations involving rape or affecting the life of the mother?
Only allowed if the fetus will be born with severe disabilities ?
etc., etc.
I chose a minimum voting age of 30 because by this time those women who have had abortions will be able to reflect upon their experiences and also by 30, the vast majority of people are no longer thinking / acting like adolescents.
Off to do the shopping, and spend my SS check. Hope I have change left.
@ Shirehome – We never expected to actually receive any SocSec funds in our lifetime; I always just counted my taxes as being third-hand contributions to my grandparents and parents. Signing up and getting the first deposits a few years ago was a pleasant surprise.
It’s still a Ponzi scheme.
Find at the link 16 silent minutes of high quality drone footage, tracing from Swannanoa to Black Mountain, N.C. It is easy to watch at accelerated rates, or just scrolling through, if desired. — https://youtu.be/SjLbfRJh0cY
Was Helene the result of climate change?
Excellent discussion of why Helene was such a big rain event.
I wonder why Slavic peoples seem to be better dancers. I understand why Southern boys are generally better golfers and Black guys play basketball, but dancing has never been adequately explained.
@Sennacherib:I wonder why Slavic peoples seem to be better dancers.
I’d guess it’s what’s prestigious in their culture; if they liked golf or basketball as well as Americans, or flower arranging as well as Japanese, I’m sure we’d see more Slavs doing those things. And if Americans took a bigger interest in dancing and flower arranging they wouldn’t be so dominated by Slavs and Japanese respectively.
If I worked hard all my life to achieve a Japanese-level mastery of flower arranging or calligraphy, I might get famous in Japan but no one here would take much note; they might think it was an interesting quirk of my character at best. American kids wouldn’t grow up wanting to emulate me and they wouldn’t stand in line for my autograph.
JJ,
The problem with the climate change priests is that they ignore their own models and their consequences. The basic climate models based on CO2 causing water vapor feedback for warming is that, yes the oceans, not just the tropics get warmer. Further, the models say the warming will occur even more in the upper troposhere.
Now, as I keep doing, bring in the 2nd Law of Thermo: hurricanes are heat engines, so take energy from a “hot” source, the ocean, and exhaust energy to the “cold” reservoir, the upper atmosphere locally. Now, remember the models say the upper atmosphere will warm. The efficiency of any heat engine is determined by the temperature difference between the hot and cold reservoirs; greater the difference the more efficient. Less delta T between surface and upper atmosphere, less efficiency. However, as the storms move north, they also transport energy from the tropical regions to the more temperate regions. They act as a thermostat. If the oceans (and land) more north warm, then the delta T will be less, and the storms will also not be so severe, ie less efficient.
In the article JJ links, shows Ryan Maue’s hurricane energy graph which shows no increase.
The climate nuts fail to align their models and storm predictions with the 2nd Law, so they get it all wrong.
• Trump planned to stay in power no matter what
• Trump showed no concern for VP Mike Pence’s safety
• Former President was alone with his phone in the White House dining room while Capitol was breached
• Trump campaign employee said ‘make them riot’
• Trump willingly ‘spread lies of election fraud’
“Pence’s safety”?! People close to Trump started falling at the beginning, and are probably still falling – I don’t recall Trump ever seeming concerned about them either. How is not showing concern a crime? Driving past the accident that just happened in front of you? Maybe that’s a crime…in a country that spitting on a sidewalk or walking on the wrong side of the sidewalk is a crime.
@physicsguy:The climate nuts fail to align their models and storm predictions with the 2nd Law, so they get it all wrong.
While I certainly don’t think the modelers have everything right, I think it’s too strong a statement that climate models are breaking the 2nd law of thermodynamics; we’d being seeing a lot of articles to that effect in the physics journals.
There’s many different heat transfer mechanisms between ocean and different parts of the atmosphere taking place at once, which is why they build complex models in the first place, and I’m not sure you can argue that a hurricane is just a heat engine operating between two reservoirs; I’m pretty sure that’s an oversimplification. (Imagine a heat engine, that is used to pump large amounts of water from the cold reservoir to the hot and vice versa, at different times, at different rates, with both reservoirs receiving energy inputs from outside the system: it would be quite complex to model what the system was doing at any given time, and saying it was a heat engine and pointing to the Carnot formula wouldn’t tell anyone very much.)
Climate is governed by the general circulation of the atmosphere — the global pattern of air movements, with its semi-tropical trade winds, its air masses rising in the tropics to descend farther north, its cyclonic storms that carry energy and moisture through middle latitudes, and so forth. It is a vast thermodynamic engine operating to transfer heat energy from the tropics toward the poles. Many meteorologists suspected that shifts in this pattern were a main cause of climate change. They could only guess about such shifts, for the general circulation was poorly mapped before the 1940s (even the jet streams remained to be discovered). The Second World War and its aftermath brought a phenomenal increase in observations from ground level up to the stratosphere, which finally revealed all the main features. Yet up to the 1960s, the general circulation was still only crudely known, and this knowledge was strictly observational.
From the 19th century forward, many scientists had attempted to explain the general pattern by applying the laws of the physics of gases to a heated, rotating planet. All their ingenious efforts failed to derive a realistic mathematical solution. The best mathematical physicists could only offer simple arguments for the character of the circulation, arguments which might seem plausible but in fact were mere hand-waving. And with the general global circulation not explained, attempts to explain climate change in terms of shifts of the pattern were less science than story-telling.
The solution would come by taking the problem from the other end. Instead of starting with grand equations for the planet as a whole, one might seek to find how the circulation pattern was built up from the local weather at thousands of points.
Jack smith like michael mann has committed multiple omissions lies et al of the historical record just recently in the documents case so pull my other finger
I told you chapter and verse about judge chutkins record so anything that comes from her court is tainted
Smith has lost three times at the supreme court he should have disbarred long ago but the dc bar is corrupt he nearly caused a civil war in kosovo with his bogus indictment
No chain of custody on ballots no voter id you have an illigitimate election like ukraine in 2005
So the end result of this steal was the ukraine invasion the al hijra the kabul capitulations including the abbey gate massacre october 7th need i go on
Those who were derelict were complicit in these events by omission if not commission
Karmi:
Gee, corrupt and biased prosecutor Jack Smith says it! Therefore it must be true!
That stuff isn’t supposed to be released for a reason.
Daily Mail disagrees with you, and they are not left-wing…
Certain news should be hidden…interesting, neo.
@Karmi:Certain news should be hidden
The indictment was sealed, and is now unsealed, but Daily Mail doesn’t say by whom or why. I think it was unsealed by Judge Chutkan, according to what Newsweek said a few days ago.
The 180-page filing will set out what evidence prosecutors have against Trump and also includes an appendix with more information.
The evidence has been reshaped in light of the Supreme Court’s July 1 presidential immunity ruling, which gave Trump broad protection from prosecution.
It is unusual for prosecutors to release their evidence pretrial, but the Supreme Court has said that the evidence should be viewable so that Chutkan can assess whether it complies with the presidential immunity ruling.
Under the terms of Chutkan’s scheduling order, Trump has until October 1 to file a sealed copy of his objections to Smith’s redacted version of the 180-page file.
Neo is correct that it’s not supposed to be released; it has nothing to do with a desire to censor on her part, it has to do with how courts are supposed to work.
Niketas Choniates – I take it you are back to Engaging with me? Jeez…
Neo is correct that it’s not supposed to be released; it has nothing to do with a desire to censor on her part, it has to do with how courts are supposed to work.
Are you suggesting that a Trial Judge can’t unseal evidence, etc.? This one did, and I’ve only seen you saying that he shouldn’t have.
I’ll go with the Judge & Daily Mail on this one…
Honestly have you learned nothing in the last four years
Trump should sue Jack Smith as private citizen masquerading as an officer of the United States which he is not. Sue him for 10 billion. And should he somehow get back into office, note that Vance is already vetted by election and will be acting AG, no senate confirmation needed.
Gordon Sondland, Trump’s Ambassador to the EU, testified at the second impeachment trial and became firmly in the anti-Trump camp. After four years of watching the Biden/Harris administration put the economy in peril, he’s reconsidered Trump and is again a “Yes, Trump!” As the election gets closer, I suspect more anti-Trumpers will get cold feet at the prospect of the continued destruction of the American dream if Kammy actually takes the reins.
Karmila doing the job for the DNC. Hope you are happy when Iran gets nukes.
Trump should also sue CBS for breach of contract unless they fire that b****.
@Karmi:Are you suggesting that a Trial Judge can’t unseal evidence, etc.?
I just said the judge DID do that, so I obviously couldn’t have been suggesting that the judge CAN’T do that. That doesn’t mean it was RIGHT for the judge to do that.
I take it you are back to Engaging with me?
You’re on a different topic now, consistent with what I said at the time. Didn’t mean to confuse you.
Niketas Choniates – you’re the one getting angry and dis-Engaging, then calming down and re-Engaging.
You’re the one who said’Neo is correct that it’s not supposed to be released – so you were wrong since a Trial Judge can release evidence, etc. since they are allowed to.
@Karmi: I’m not sure why you give yourself such a license to invent emotional states for others.
Neo is correct that it’s not supposed to be released, that’s why it took a judge’s order to legally release it. Until I looked that up, I didn’t know if it had been illegally leaked.
Since I’m the one who brought in the information that a specific judge released it, yes I know a judge can order its release, but in the ordinary course it is not supposed to be released, that’s why it required the judge’s order.
I’m sorry if this is hard for you to follow, but if you concentrate on the text instead of speculating on whether I’m angry you’ll probably have an easier time keeping up.
He’s not trying to “follow”, Niketas, he is trolling.
sdferr’s Megyn Kelly link provides a good analysis of what the Judge’s release of Jack’s continuing Witch Hunt meant. As Megyn says, basically the same “shit” we’ve heard since the beginning.
Had thought that my comment @ 2:43 pm showed at least something similar to her take, especially my ridiculing of the 2nd point: “Trump showed no concern for VP Mike Pence’s safety”
As I have said – the Rule Of Law (aka Kings Law) is all about who controls it, which is one of the reasons that the DEMs & REPs desperately fight over controlling it.
Saw a terrible movie last night which was based on some truth…believe it was set in New York, and some FBI agent was trying to stop an Attorney General (not sure if state or fed?) from deporting a bunch of legal immigrants—thousands of them. They were being arrested and rounded up because they were immigrants (some for like 20years already.
That’s the way the Rule of Law works – for them, for me, and for Trump. In the end, this AG lost – since the responsibility for such deportations rested with the Labor Department, if I recall correctly.
Sure the Law worked, but only after terrorizing thousands…
@ 1:37 – Trump behaved terribly, after he lost that election.
Forget it ive tried to explain the circumstances of how are supposed to work
I don’t like to leap to that conclusion. He agrees with too many people here on too many things. I think he just gets easily excited and distracted. This is not the only site where he comments, and he seems to be the same persona everywhere, including his own website.
He did (according to his own account) save the internet from being taken over by white supremacists. So we’re all in his debt, and so I think he’s earned a little leeway. 🙂
My link about the Helene rain event was not to prove any science. I’ll leave the physics up to our physicists here. 🙂
What the article shows is:
1. That hurricanes are not increasing in number or strength. There is no correlation with the observed temperature increases.
2. How this particular hurricane dropped so much rain on the southern Appalachian Mountains. The rainfall was enhanced by the orographic lifting as the counterclockwise circulation brough moisture from the Atlantic across the eastern lowlands. It was forced to rise by the mountains. This lifting and cooling of the moisture resulted in a much greater release of rain than would be expected if the hurricane remnant (tropical storm) was over flatter land.
3. It shows news reports from 1914 of a similar rain and flooding event. So, this weather event was not unheard of in the past.
Climate change has nothing to do with it.
On the other hand, Biden/Harris policies will affect the recovery. They have spent most of FEMA’s money on illegal immigrant housing and care. Additionally, Biden is allowing the dockworker’s strike to proceed as if it won’t affect
the economy, inflation, and specifically, the recovery efforts in the Southeast.
Jack Smith’s unsealed charges may have been meant as an October surprise, but IMO, the real October surprise is the failure of the Biden administration to deal effectively with the Helene disaster and allowing the dockworker’s strike at such a crucial time.
Niketas, it is a classic troll tactic to pretend agreement on some issues, portraying themselves as “fair and balanced” while pursuing an agenda. And Karmila is unmistakably pursuing an agenda.
I can still remember in bootcamp the DI screaming at us, “nuts to butts ladies, nuts to butts! In 1969 there were no females in bootcamp. Back then, the military still understood its mission.
Niketas,
Too say a hurricane is not a heat engine is just plain absurd.
And the AIP has been in the tank for “climate change” for at least two decades ( think easy grant money), causing many physicists to drop their membership in subsidiary organizations such as APS. Every statement from them on ” climate” should be taken with a spoonful of salt.
Except he probably think larry elder is a white supremacist
@physicsguy:Too say a hurricane is not a heat engine is just plain absurd.
Didn’t say that. I said that your description was oversimplified, in my opinion, and the simple model of the heat engine you referred to isn’t adequate to describe its behavior.
This is all review for you, of course… First, the reservoirs. A reservoir is an idealization, you can take thermal energy out without lowering its temperature. If you take a lot of thermal energy out relative to the scale of the system, the idealization fails because the reservoirs change temperature, which makes it harder for you to describe what the system will do as a function of time.
Secondly, where does the “work” of the hurricane heat engine go? It goes to moving large masses of air and water. Those large masses of air and water carry large amounts of thermal energy with them.
The Second Law never stops being true, of course, but a very large storm like a hurricane is not acting much like an ideal heat engine operating between ideal reservoirs. It is mechanically transporting large masses of air and water, with their large amounts of thermal energy, between what would be their reservoirs and to and from other places. And so it is a much more complicated system with multiple kinds of feedback, which is why they build the models. Not the saying the models are right, but that they must be complex.
Further, the hurricane system is not very isolated, it’s continually being input large amounts of energy in various ways, some through mechanical transport of water or air carrying thermal energy, some through solar radiation, etc.
Every statement from them on ” climate” should be taken with a spoonful of salt.
That’s as may be, but nothing I quoted from them is incorrect. Understanding what the ocean and atmosphere do requires following the complex motion of large masses of air and water exhibiting multiple feedbacks, down to the level of large storm systems. And physicists in APS journals and elsewhere would be publishing on models that actually broke the Second Law of Thermodynamics, even if they had no other motive than to see better climate modeling.
Thanks Niketas, have a grand time with Karmi!
Hello. Is anyone thinking about the longshoremen’s strike on the East Coast? I took a look at the freighter traffic today and it’s not encouraging to see Boston Harbor, for example, empty of cargo shipping. New York/Newark harbor space is not quite empty, but pretty quiet.
Hello. Is anyone thinking about the longshoremen’s strike on the East Coast?
Hubert:
I’m thinking that anyone who wants to pressure or blackmail the administration, while Biden/Harris/Walz are on the ropes and the election is at stake, this is a great time to do so.
In financial circles October is known for the “October Effect” — several major crashes have occurred in October, including Black Tuesday, the beginning of the 1929 Crash and Black Monday, (October 1987).
Not to mention Israel taking on Hamas, Hezbollah and now Iran in direct military confrontations.
Not all the October Surprises will work against Trump.
Pray ’em, if you got ’em.
Lots of women on YouTube saying that they can’t find “good men,” or that men won’t approach them.
Lots of women on YouTube saying that “men are trash,” or that “they don’t need men.”
Then a lot of older women are on YouTube lamenting that they are lonely and can’t find a man.
Other women talk about how they use men who they pretend to care about, but who they really don’t care about —as someone said, they just see men as “an ATM with a dick attached.”
Then, just saw a very interesting and revelatory analysis about marriage by an attorney, who pointed out that, while men’s obligations to provide for their wives and children are enforceable by all sorts of often draconian laws, in contrast, their wive’s obligations to provide warmth, comfort, love, to honor him, to create a good home, and to provide sex are not enforceable by law.
Thus, as things stand, a very bad deal for men.
They should show their work but how often do they do that?
The ILA strike is over.
Lots of women on YouTube saying that they can’t find “good men,” or that men won’t approach them.
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Excess weight, tats, piercings, bad haircuts, hair dye, foul language, and resting-bitch-face do tend to generate inhibitions.
== Lots of women on YouTube saying that “men are trash,” or that “they don’t need men.”
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Please yourself
== Then a lot of older women are on YouTube lamenting that they are lonely and can’t find a man.
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How many of them served papers on the man they had?
== Other women talk about how they use men who they pretend to care about, but who they really don’t care about
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Some of them get wise to that, exacerbating problems 1 & 3.
@miguel: “Claudia Sheinbaum” sure sounds indigenous–maybe to Europe. Lithuanian and Bulgarian grandparents. Shouldn’t she be apologizing too? The people who believe in apologizing for “colonialism” don’t make exceptions for people whose grandparents immigrated.
Snow on Pine:
I think it’s an error to generalize from what one sees on social media. The young adults I know, both men and women, are nothing like that. However, I assume the sorts of attitudes you describe are more common than they once were.
I take issue with this part of what you wrote:
Then, just saw a very interesting and revelatory analysis about marriage by an attorney, who pointed out that, while men’s obligations to provide for their wives and children are enforceable by all sorts of often draconian laws, in contrast, their wive’s obligations to provide warmth, comfort, love, to honor him, to create a good home, and to provide sex are not enforceable by law.
If either parent has an income that person is required by law to support his or HER children. It is not considered a man’s obligation only. In practice it often works out that way – if the man makes more money, the children are small, and the wife is the primary caretaker and always was. But the law imposes the obligation equally.
Physical abuse is the same thing – the law imposes the obligation on both sexes. And rape seems to be almost always about men, for obvious reasons.When last I checked, a husband’s obligations to provide “warmth, comfort, love, to honor her, to create a good home, and to provide sex are not enforceable by law” either. Or is it alleged that husbands don’t have those obligations?
What other obligations of men only does this person allege there are draconian laws about?
In addition, in six states in the US, you can sue someone for wrecking your marriage and depriving you of marital benefits including sexual relations. See this.
If I were the King of Spain, I’d tell Fraulein Scheinbaum to pound sand.
I take issue with this part of what you wrote:
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There’s black letters and there’s what family court judges make of them.
Neo–We are talking about what–all too often–actually happens in our society, not about the supposed equality of application of the law, about what theoretically should happen, is laid down in law, but quite often doesn’t really happen.
It is very obvious that–in the areas of marriage and family law–the courts are decidedly biased against men, and in favor of women.
Perhaps I am old fashioned but, in my view, while men should provide love and affection, a husband’s basic, primary job in a marriage is as a provider, a protector, and a role model for any children, while the primary responsibilities of the woman in a marriage are to provide love and affection, to honor her husband, to be a helpmate, to provide warmth, children, and to create the household and atmosphere necessary for that family to thrive.
Given these roles, the woman’s responsibilities are not ones which can be mandated or forced, while those of a man can be; your can force a man to pay child support, you can’t force a woman to really honor her husband, to have his children, or to create a stable home full of love and warmth for a family, a refuge from the world.
Dockworker’s strike suddenly postponed until January 15th, 2025.
No mention of who or why the sudden change of heart.
My guess is that Obama saw how bad the strike could damage the economy and the Democrats’ election chances. A phone conference with the union bosses and voila, the strike is postponed until after the election.
IMO, it’s a good thing economically for all of us. However, it’s a boost to the Democrat election prospects. And that’s bad for us politically.
I think it’s an error to generalize from what one sees on social media. The young adults I know, both men and women, are nothing like that.
neo:
Sounds like dueling anecdotes to me. Among my family and friends, the woman almost always initiates the divorce and mostly it doesn’t work out well for the man.
Helen Smith, Instapundit’s wife, has taken an interest and written a book on the subject you may have heard of: Men on Strike: Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood, and the American Dream – and Why It Matters.
Going beyond anecdotes to data, marriage rates in the US have dropped through the floor.
Since men do the proposing, that would seem to indicate that American men have decided that marriage is not such a good deal anymore. I think Helen Smith’s book does a good job of explaining why.
huxley:
Who initiates a divorce is an exceedingly poor metric by which to determine fault or attitudes or much of anything.
Did the person leave capriciously? Or was it the result of getting fed up with a long history of being the recipient of nastiness or lack of affection? And who is telling the tale, and is it the truth?
There is a lot more cohabitation and a lot less marriage, and part of that is that people just don’t need marriage the way they used to. They don’t need it for sex.They don’t need it for respectability, even when they have children. And although marriage ordinarily allows each member of the couple to have a higher standard of living, with both men and women employed it means that each person can typically get by financially on his or her own. With the steep decline in belief in organized religion, people also lack that impetus for marriage.
Snow on Pine; Art Deco:
No, it is not very clear that courts are biased. It depends on the judge in particular, and the laws in each state.
What appears to be sex bias (for example, in child support or primary custody) is often merely the application of laws to each situation, and a reflection of other things such as who makes more money, who has always taken care of the children, and that sort of thing.
That doesn’t mean that judicial bias doesn’t exist. Of course it sometimes does, and it can go in either direction depending on the judge. But what looks like bias isn’t necessarily bias, and the same is true of other statistics such as (for example) the supposed lower pay of women for the same work (not the result of actual bias).
neo:
Sure. Stories are different. Who knows exactly how it works out in the aggregate.
But we do know that marriage rates have fallen through the floor, there are a lot of upset men and there are women, such as Helen Smith, who are sympathetic.
Is there a reason I should trust your version, which frankly comes across as a lot of handwaving? Have you really looked at this closely? What data do you have beyond your social circle?
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I have worked with men for over 20 years and have heard directly from thousands of men about their concerns, and it has led me to gain more understanding. But mostly, I think one has to open their mind to hearing things that they may not like or that may not reflect well on themselves or society and be able to deal with that.
For the same reason you should trust or not trust anything I say. I don’t ordinarily “handwave,” whatever that means.
I have worked in the field of divorce in many capacities. I have done divorce mediation. I have worked (quite a while ago) in a legal services that did divorces. I have studied divorce statistics in coursework when in training in the 1990s to be a marriage and family therapist. I have done couples and marriage therapy with many families. I have read tons of statistics and more recent online studies on the subject, which is a special interest of mine and has been since the 1970s. Back then, by the way, I wrote a lengthy research paper in law school (90 pages long) on sex-based discrimination in child custody cases, when things were sometimes biased in favor of the woman and sometimes the man (it was a different but complicated situation back then, too, which I could explain if you like). And a couple of years ago I spent quite a bit of time reading on those online message boards that feature guys who feel women have screwed them over, and who have renounced marriage.
Yes, I’ve really looked at this closely.
Or perhaps that’s all just “handwaving”?
@ J J > “Was Helene the result of climate change?”
Please note Anthony Watts’ final sentence:
The challenge for the media and politicians is to explain how such a catastrophic flooding event occurred in Asheville before climate change ever became an issue, and the atmospheric content of carbon dioxide (said to increase climate change and storms supposedly driven by it) was far lower than today.
They can’t. Instead, they would prefer to stick with a popular narrative claiming a “climate crisis” caused this storm and the subsequent damage rather than pay attention to data, science, and history which says the complete opposite. This is wildly wrong, and beyond simple ignorance, it is journalistic and political malfeasance.
So, are Hillary and Kerry and Kamala and Co. going to demand all these people be censored for publishing egregious misinformation aka lies?
Don’t hold your breath.
@ sdferr > “A photograph of rescue from Helene.”
Thanks for your link to the drone footage, the devastation is heart-breaking.
However, although the photo is also a heart-tugger, reader’s added context, probably after you posted:
This is an AI-generated image and not a real photo.
“Tell tale signs include the unnatural sheen, a disappearing green boat, and a man with a seemingly missing limb in the background.”
Despite my rejection of the Democrats’ all-censorship all-the-time agitation, it would sometimes be useful if people at least had to put a little “watermark” on their AI products.
@ miguel – I always enjoy Don Surber’s posts, thanks for the link.
The ILA strike is a very complex affair, and there are moving parts that don’t get explained by the punditry, and especially the Regime Media.
IF, as Sundance says, most of our ports are owned by non-American interests, and IF automation equipment is produced by and under the control of China or other foreign actors, THEN there are legitimate concerns that need to be investigated.
However, as another commenter points out, the Union Boss’s rants are not winning him friends among the populace, and the complaints he raises against automation are primarily that it decreases the income of the union workers, NOT that the ports will be totally under the control of foreign actors, primarily Chinese.
As the comments note: the issues of port control & automation are separable; the control of ports is a national security issue that our Regime takes no interest in; fuller automation makes importing cheaper and incentivizes more off-shoring; BUT slowing down port operations is not the most effective way to fight off-shoring of American industries and jobs, which is driven by a lot of factors other than the cost of unloading the goods when they get here.
That is a vast over-simplification of what looks like a very complex issue, but I wanted to get those points out into the conversation, because I’m not seeing them anywhere else to date.
@ J.J. > “My guess is that Obama saw how bad the strike could damage the economy and the Democrats’ election chances. A phone conference with the union bosses and voila, the strike is postponed until after the election.”
My guess is that your guess has some validity, although it might not be Obama himself making the call, and I wonder why they let it go so long before intervening. Perhaps it was Kamala’s declaration of solidarity with the union coupled with the over-the-top selfishness of the ILA’s boss dissing the voters.
Someone speculated earlier that this was a planned crisis, which Biden/Harris Inc would step in and “solve” so as to get credit both as union supporters AND as champions of the people (after having crashed the economy so that there was a real need to bolster their pretense of caring for anyone but themselves).
However, the situation got messy fast if that was the case, and the “save” came after a lot of psychological damage was already done, which would not have been part of the “plan” to head off impending material harm; plus the fix was unaccountably sub rosa, so that Biden’s administration isn’t getting any credit.
So — I got nothin’ further about who, what, why, and how.
miguel cervantes
Well shes laser focused, Forget the cartels the poverty the crime.
Yup.
If President Scheinbaum of Mexico wants Spain to apologize for “colonial mistreatment,” Spain should issue an apology for having the sheer effrontery of interfering with indigenous traditions, such as ending the Aztec practice of human sacrifice. (The Spaniards had a lot of indigenous allies in their war against the Aztecs. Apparently not everyone in Mexico agreed with the Aztec tradition of human sacrifice. After all, it was the subject tribes who were sacrificed.)
Mexico has had 200 years to get it together.
P.S. I don’t pretend to believe that the people who take the time to post things on Youtube, or about whom such posts are made, are presenting a totally accurate reflection of the current condition of society.
What I do think is that such posts may reflect current thinking/trends among a certain proportion/segment–maybe large, maybe small–of the population.
About 60% of all divorces are initiated by wives, about 30% by husbands, and about 10% in some sort of joint filing. In marriages with children, about 67% are initiated by wives. It’s an indicative metric. It’s not invalid or misleading, just something which requires elaboration.
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You want dueling anecdotes, I’ve seen three young men in our families treated to appalling behavior by the women they married. The one mitigating factor was that none of the couples in question had yet had any children. And you know what? People discuss this sort of thing as if it were a weather event.
@ Gringo > “Mexico has had 200 years to get it together.”
In that vein, a small personal rant:
Americans descended from slaves have had about 160 years to get it together counting from the Civil War. Granted, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a setback in many ways. The Democrats of the South may have lost, but their ideological descendants have continued operating virtual plantations, which are not as overt as the physical ones but are just as crippling.
Americans of indigenous descent have started their recovery era comparatively recently, given that Reservation life and the Bureau of Indian Affairs extended the period of genuine oppression. However, the “land acknowledgement” theater of the Left is at least 200 years past its sell-by date.
Losing wars has consequences, whether we like them or not.
(FWIW, I am as much an Indian as Liawatha Fauxcahontas Warren, having a quarter-blood Cherokee great-grandmother on my father’s side; one AesopSon got her cheekbones, but I’m Irish-Welsh all the way from the other side of the family.)
Muslims, especially those currently invading Europe, are still sore about losing the Battle of Vienna, which passed its 341st anniversary on 12 September, having been fought in 1683 between the Christian European states and the Ottomans, and won by Christians commanded by Polish king John III Sobieski.
Continually re-litigating ancient grievances is no way to improve anyone’s life.
The history of Europe alone is replete with decades-long wars over which noble family (or church hierarchy) is going to oppress the peasants this time
We have enough recent and ongoing grievances to keep us busy.
Which is not to say that we shouldn’t celebrate our national heritage, just that we shouldn’t get bogged down by What Used to Be to the extent that we poison the well of What is Now.
“Cymry byw!” as my Welsh cousins say.
Friday morning musing continued:
Oddly, that philosophy kind of puts me in tune with Kamala’s campy meme, “What can be, unburdened by what has been.”
Although she uses the phrase to dodge responsibility for her past actions, including her inactions as veep, and it has well-documented Marxist roots, the sentiment itself has some validity as a psychological concept.
The post is sympathetic to Harris, but it’s a good history of her memetic character.
One tweet cited therein supposedly gotchas DeSantis, who is fictionally presented as saying, “It’s nonsensical. How can you be unburdened by what has been AND exist within the context?” by having Harris reply, “Ron, I thought Florida had coconut trees.”
The answer circles back to another of her memetic catchphrases from 2023, “You think you just fell out of a coconut tree?” — presumably in the family yard in Jamaica — followed by “You exist in the context of all in which you live and what came before you.”
The crux IMO is the “unburdened” part of the phrase.
Remember your roots, celebrate what is good, reject what is bad, and do what’s needed right now.
As another memist put it, “God grant me the serenity to be unburdened by what has been, the courage to see what can be, and the wisdom to live in the context.”
The other important word is “wisdom” — which is not much on display in Kamala’s own context.
One more postscript: aside from the word salad speeches, much of what Harris says in her scripted remarks is, like Obama’s, basically unobjectionable and sometimes commendatory (don’t throw rocks, please). However, in the context of their policies, actions, and character, they are always wearing Iowahawkian skinsuits when they speak thusly.
this is somewhat akin to Macron bemoaning the Algerian intervention that lasted 130 years, and yet france hasn’t totally been able to disengage,
for the first century, Mexico pivoted between anti clerical classical regimes like that of Benito Juarez, (Mussolini was named after him) and Conservative authoritarians like Santa Ana and Porfirio Diaz, it is the former why we have the entire West Coast, because he was a bad warrior, then came the Revolution and the largely Marxist influenced PRI took charge for the better part of a century, one might call it Social Democracy, nationalization of key industries, among other aspects but done poorly
they had their own challenges to Marxism, from rebel groups like the ELZN but they largely crushed them,
On YouTube there are quite a few instances (presuming they’re legit and not staged) of dinner dates in which the woman brings along a friend or two and the man is supposed to pay for everyone’s meal or in one case when the guy went to the bathroom, at the end of the meal, his date had ordered three more entrees plus a dessert to go for her children, all this without consulting her date ( read sucker) and when he objected she said “he should “ be a man” and pay.
In a lot of these cases the man refuses and just walks out. If this is common these days I can see why a lot of men are no longer interested in “dating.”
P.S.–You also see a lot of women (who usually seem to believe that they’re all tens–not fives, sixes, and sevens–and thus worthy of a top of the line, male ten) saying that they ain’t going on any “coffee dates,” or any dinner dates unless the restaurant is top notch.
What this tells me is that–for these “ladies”–it’s not about the possibility of finding someone, what it is, is, all about getting a free meal out of some man stupid or desperate enough to put up with these demands/conditions to get a “date” with these women.
Somehow, I don’t think that this kind of mercenary attitude and behavior was as common among young women when I was growing up, as it apparently is today but, then, I don’t think that a lot of women in those bygone days thought of men as being “trash.”
Snow on Pine:
People putting that stuff up on social media or YouTube are performing. Maybe their whole lives are a kind of performance. Plus, there were always some predatory women and predatory men. The percentage of the population estimated to be nonviolent sociopaths varies from 1% to 5%, which is an awful lot of people (more men than women, by the way, but plenty in both sexes), I wouldn’t base much of anything on what you see online.
neo–Isn’t each one of our lives what we might call a “performance,” as we, first, craft a “Persona” to face the world and, then, “act” as we are moved to act by our particular Persona, age, sex, station, circumstance, and culture?
Isn’t it very hard–almost impossible sometimes–to act contrary to the weight and momentum of our particular Persona, age, sex, station, circumstance, and culture?
Snow on Pine:
That is quite a separate issue from what people are doing who post little vignettes on Instagram.
AesopFan on October 4, 2024 at 2:14 am
Thanks for the comments on the dock strike and ports being often non US owned.
Also adds to the border security issue as not just people, but goods with unknown additions (transmitters, mini explosives, etc.?) also crossing our “border”.
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Durn, that video was too short! 🙁
Abortion is a major issue—and both sides have their fanatics. I recently stated My view on September 28, 2024 at 10:11 pm in the OT 9/28. Decade or two ago, I used to think the man should also have a say, but at some point within the past decade I felt the fetus is a growing/developing human—the 3rd being involved and should also have a ‘Say’.
Melania Trump passionately defends abortion rights in upcoming memoir
Does anyone here know if a fetus can be safely removed and kept alive some other way?
Adopt a fetus…so to speak.
Good thing Putin hasn’t sent these dancers to the front.
But they probably live in fear of that; all because of Biden’s weakness.
You can’t hate Biden enough for the damage he has done to the world.
Suchomimus, “Israel missile strike on Russian airbase in Syria! Hmeimim airbase targeted.”, (4:01): https://youtu.be/lIcQTG_Xjuw
Iranian transport plane (and cargo presumably) were the point of attention. Still, I believe this is a first, and a slightly risky first at that. Only slightly, because Russian overreach in Syria (to say nothing of Ukraine) has left them with distinct vulnerabilities there, vulnerabilities which Israel has tolerated heretofore but apparently can no longer. Bashar Assad should start looking for an escape country, and quickly. His time is growing short.
If only women older than, say, 30 years of age voted on what should be the abortion laws, how would they vote??
Abortion up to the time of birth?
Only allowed the first 1? 2? 3? ……9th? month?
Only allowed in situations involving rape or affecting the life of the mother?
Only allowed if the fetus will be born with severe disabilities ?
etc., etc.
I chose a minimum voting age of 30 because by this time those women who have had abortions will be able to reflect upon their experiences and also by 30, the vast majority of people are no longer thinking / acting like adolescents.
Off to do the shopping, and spend my SS check. Hope I have change left.
@ Shirehome – We never expected to actually receive any SocSec funds in our lifetime; I always just counted my taxes as being third-hand contributions to my grandparents and parents. Signing up and getting the first deposits a few years ago was a pleasant surprise.
It’s still a Ponzi scheme.
Find at the link 16 silent minutes of high quality drone footage, tracing from Swannanoa to Black Mountain, N.C. It is easy to watch at accelerated rates, or just scrolling through, if desired. — https://youtu.be/SjLbfRJh0cY
Was Helene the result of climate change?
Excellent discussion of why Helene was such a big rain event.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/10/02/no-media-hurricane-helene-was-not-worsened-by-climate-change/
D for dhimmi
https://x.com/BoSnerdley/status/1841870479730098371
I wonder why Slavic peoples seem to be better dancers. I understand why Southern boys are generally better golfers and Black guys play basketball, but dancing has never been adequately explained.
@Sennacherib:I wonder why Slavic peoples seem to be better dancers.
I’d guess it’s what’s prestigious in their culture; if they liked golf or basketball as well as Americans, or flower arranging as well as Japanese, I’m sure we’d see more Slavs doing those things. And if Americans took a bigger interest in dancing and flower arranging they wouldn’t be so dominated by Slavs and Japanese respectively.
If I worked hard all my life to achieve a Japanese-level mastery of flower arranging or calligraphy, I might get famous in Japan but no one here would take much note; they might think it was an interesting quirk of my character at best. American kids wouldn’t grow up wanting to emulate me and they wouldn’t stand in line for my autograph.
JJ,
The problem with the climate change priests is that they ignore their own models and their consequences. The basic climate models based on CO2 causing water vapor feedback for warming is that, yes the oceans, not just the tropics get warmer. Further, the models say the warming will occur even more in the upper troposhere.
Now, as I keep doing, bring in the 2nd Law of Thermo: hurricanes are heat engines, so take energy from a “hot” source, the ocean, and exhaust energy to the “cold” reservoir, the upper atmosphere locally. Now, remember the models say the upper atmosphere will warm. The efficiency of any heat engine is determined by the temperature difference between the hot and cold reservoirs; greater the difference the more efficient. Less delta T between surface and upper atmosphere, less efficiency. However, as the storms move north, they also transport energy from the tropical regions to the more temperate regions. They act as a thermostat. If the oceans (and land) more north warm, then the delta T will be less, and the storms will also not be so severe, ie less efficient.
In the article JJ links, shows Ryan Maue’s hurricane energy graph which shows no increase.
The climate nuts fail to align their models and storm predictions with the 2nd Law, so they get it all wrong.
https://x.com/FLVoiceNews/status/1841871735332733211
‘Jack’s back’ and many right-wing sites seem to be avoiding it. Daily Mail has it – Five bombshell claims in Jack Smith’s new filing against Donald Trump in 2020 election fraud case
• Trump planned to stay in power no matter what
• Trump showed no concern for VP Mike Pence’s safety
• Former President was alone with his phone in the White House dining room while Capitol was breached
• Trump campaign employee said ‘make them riot’
• Trump willingly ‘spread lies of election fraud’
“Pence’s safety”?! People close to Trump started falling at the beginning, and are probably still falling – I don’t recall Trump ever seeming concerned about them either. How is not showing concern a crime? Driving past the accident that just happened in front of you? Maybe that’s a crime…in a country that spitting on a sidewalk or walking on the wrong side of the sidewalk is a crime.
https://x.com/GerryCallahan/status/1841875285882323203
A photograph of rescue from Helene.
@physicsguy:The climate nuts fail to align their models and storm predictions with the 2nd Law, so they get it all wrong.
While I certainly don’t think the modelers have everything right, I think it’s too strong a statement that climate models are breaking the 2nd law of thermodynamics; we’d being seeing a lot of articles to that effect in the physics journals.
There’s many different heat transfer mechanisms between ocean and different parts of the atmosphere taking place at once, which is why they build complex models in the first place, and I’m not sure you can argue that a hurricane is just a heat engine operating between two reservoirs; I’m pretty sure that’s an oversimplification. (Imagine a heat engine, that is used to pump large amounts of water from the cold reservoir to the hot and vice versa, at different times, at different rates, with both reservoirs receiving energy inputs from outside the system: it would be quite complex to model what the system was doing at any given time, and saying it was a heat engine and pointing to the Carnot formula wouldn’t tell anyone very much.)
A very small snippet from a long exposition from American Institute of Physics:
Jack smith like michael mann has committed multiple omissions lies et al of the historical record just recently in the documents case so pull my other finger
I told you chapter and verse about judge chutkins record so anything that comes from her court is tainted
Smith has lost three times at the supreme court he should have disbarred long ago but the dc bar is corrupt he nearly caused a civil war in kosovo with his bogus indictment
No chain of custody on ballots no voter id you have an illigitimate election like ukraine in 2005
So the end result of this steal was the ukraine invasion the al hijra the kabul capitulations including the abbey gate massacre october 7th need i go on
Those who were derelict were complicit in these events by omission if not commission
Karmi:
Gee, corrupt and biased prosecutor Jack Smith says it! Therefore it must be true!
That stuff isn’t supposed to be released for a reason.
Daily Mail disagrees with you, and they are not left-wing…
Certain news should be hidden…interesting, neo.
@Karmi:Certain news should be hidden
The indictment was sealed, and is now unsealed, but Daily Mail doesn’t say by whom or why. I think it was unsealed by Judge Chutkan, according to what Newsweek said a few days ago.
Neo is correct that it’s not supposed to be released; it has nothing to do with a desire to censor on her part, it has to do with how courts are supposed to work.
Niketas Choniates – I take it you are back to Engaging with me? Jeez…
Are you suggesting that a Trial Judge can’t unseal evidence, etc.? This one did, and I’ve only seen you saying that he shouldn’t have.
I’ll go with the Judge & Daily Mail on this one…
Honestly have you learned nothing in the last four years
Trump should sue Jack Smith as private citizen masquerading as an officer of the United States which he is not. Sue him for 10 billion. And should he somehow get back into office, note that Vance is already vetted by election and will be acting AG, no senate confirmation needed.
Gordon Sondland, Trump’s Ambassador to the EU, testified at the second impeachment trial and became firmly in the anti-Trump camp. After four years of watching the Biden/Harris administration put the economy in peril, he’s reconsidered Trump and is again a “Yes, Trump!” As the election gets closer, I suspect more anti-Trumpers will get cold feet at the prospect of the continued destruction of the American dream if Kammy actually takes the reins.
Sondland begins around the 4 minute mark.
Coup bomb goes off: Eyewitnesses & jailed Trump aide talk to Ari Melber as DOJ reveals 1/6 secrets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HFTu_wVCaw
Karmila doing the job for the DNC. Hope you are happy when Iran gets nukes.
Trump should also sue CBS for breach of contract unless they fire that b****.
@Karmi:Are you suggesting that a Trial Judge can’t unseal evidence, etc.?
I just said the judge DID do that, so I obviously couldn’t have been suggesting that the judge CAN’T do that. That doesn’t mean it was RIGHT for the judge to do that.
I take it you are back to Engaging with me?
You’re on a different topic now, consistent with what I said at the time. Didn’t mean to confuse you.
Niketas Choniates – you’re the one getting angry and dis-Engaging, then calming down and re-Engaging.
You’re the one who said’Neo is correct that it’s not supposed to be released – so you were wrong since a Trial Judge can release evidence, etc. since they are allowed to.
Megyn Kelly takes a look (7:35): https://youtu.be/_DfKy7xGwQQ
@Karmi: I’m not sure why you give yourself such a license to invent emotional states for others.
Neo is correct that it’s not supposed to be released, that’s why it took a judge’s order to legally release it. Until I looked that up, I didn’t know if it had been illegally leaked.
Since I’m the one who brought in the information that a specific judge released it, yes I know a judge can order its release, but in the ordinary course it is not supposed to be released, that’s why it required the judge’s order.
I’m sorry if this is hard for you to follow, but if you concentrate on the text instead of speculating on whether I’m angry you’ll probably have an easier time keeping up.
He’s not trying to “follow”, Niketas, he is trolling.
sdferr’s Megyn Kelly link provides a good analysis of what the Judge’s release of Jack’s continuing Witch Hunt meant. As Megyn says, basically the same “shit” we’ve heard since the beginning.
Had thought that my comment @ 2:43 pm showed at least something similar to her take, especially my ridiculing of the 2nd point: “Trump showed no concern for VP Mike Pence’s safety”
As I have said – the Rule Of Law (aka Kings Law) is all about who controls it, which is one of the reasons that the DEMs & REPs desperately fight over controlling it.
Saw a terrible movie last night which was based on some truth…believe it was set in New York, and some FBI agent was trying to stop an Attorney General (not sure if state or fed?) from deporting a bunch of legal immigrants—thousands of them. They were being arrested and rounded up because they were immigrants (some for like 20years already.
That’s the way the Rule of Law works – for them, for me, and for Trump. In the end, this AG lost – since the responsibility for such deportations rested with the Labor Department, if I recall correctly.
Sure the Law worked, but only after terrorizing thousands…
Forget it ive tried to explain the circumstances of how are supposed to work
https://open.substack.com/pub/donsurber/p/irony-of-dockworkers-strike?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=2czur
@FOAF:he is trolling.
I don’t like to leap to that conclusion. He agrees with too many people here on too many things. I think he just gets easily excited and distracted. This is not the only site where he comments, and he seems to be the same persona everywhere, including his own website.
He did (according to his own account) save the internet from being taken over by white supremacists. So we’re all in his debt, and so I think he’s earned a little leeway. 🙂
My link about the Helene rain event was not to prove any science. I’ll leave the physics up to our physicists here. 🙂
What the article shows is:
1. That hurricanes are not increasing in number or strength. There is no correlation with the observed temperature increases.
2. How this particular hurricane dropped so much rain on the southern Appalachian Mountains. The rainfall was enhanced by the orographic lifting as the counterclockwise circulation brough moisture from the Atlantic across the eastern lowlands. It was forced to rise by the mountains. This lifting and cooling of the moisture resulted in a much greater release of rain than would be expected if the hurricane remnant (tropical storm) was over flatter land.
3. It shows news reports from 1914 of a similar rain and flooding event. So, this weather event was not unheard of in the past.
Climate change has nothing to do with it.
On the other hand, Biden/Harris policies will affect the recovery. They have spent most of FEMA’s money on illegal immigrant housing and care. Additionally, Biden is allowing the dockworker’s strike to proceed as if it won’t affect
the economy, inflation, and specifically, the recovery efforts in the Southeast.
Jack Smith’s unsealed charges may have been meant as an October surprise, but IMO, the real October surprise is the failure of the Biden administration to deal effectively with the Helene disaster and allowing the dockworker’s strike at such a crucial time.
Niketas, it is a classic troll tactic to pretend agreement on some issues, portraying themselves as “fair and balanced” while pursuing an agenda. And Karmila is unmistakably pursuing an agenda.
I can still remember in bootcamp the DI screaming at us, “nuts to butts ladies, nuts to butts! In 1969 there were no females in bootcamp. Back then, the military still understood its mission.
Niketas,
Too say a hurricane is not a heat engine is just plain absurd.
And the AIP has been in the tank for “climate change” for at least two decades ( think easy grant money), causing many physicists to drop their membership in subsidiary organizations such as APS. Every statement from them on ” climate” should be taken with a spoonful of salt.
Except he probably think larry elder is a white supremacist
@physicsguy:Too say a hurricane is not a heat engine is just plain absurd.
Didn’t say that. I said that your description was oversimplified, in my opinion, and the simple model of the heat engine you referred to isn’t adequate to describe its behavior.
This is all review for you, of course… First, the reservoirs. A reservoir is an idealization, you can take thermal energy out without lowering its temperature. If you take a lot of thermal energy out relative to the scale of the system, the idealization fails because the reservoirs change temperature, which makes it harder for you to describe what the system will do as a function of time.
Secondly, where does the “work” of the hurricane heat engine go? It goes to moving large masses of air and water. Those large masses of air and water carry large amounts of thermal energy with them.
The Second Law never stops being true, of course, but a very large storm like a hurricane is not acting much like an ideal heat engine operating between ideal reservoirs. It is mechanically transporting large masses of air and water, with their large amounts of thermal energy, between what would be their reservoirs and to and from other places. And so it is a much more complicated system with multiple kinds of feedback, which is why they build the models. Not the saying the models are right, but that they must be complex.
Further, the hurricane system is not very isolated, it’s continually being input large amounts of energy in various ways, some through mechanical transport of water or air carrying thermal energy, some through solar radiation, etc.
Every statement from them on ” climate” should be taken with a spoonful of salt.
That’s as may be, but nothing I quoted from them is incorrect. Understanding what the ocean and atmosphere do requires following the complex motion of large masses of air and water exhibiting multiple feedbacks, down to the level of large storm systems. And physicists in APS journals and elsewhere would be publishing on models that actually broke the Second Law of Thermodynamics, even if they had no other motive than to see better climate modeling.
Thanks Niketas, have a grand time with Karmi!
Hello. Is anyone thinking about the longshoremen’s strike on the East Coast? I took a look at the freighter traffic today and it’s not encouraging to see Boston Harbor, for example, empty of cargo shipping. New York/Newark harbor space is not quite empty, but pretty quiet.
‘There are definitely more younger people coming in with heart attacks.
There’s data to back that up. What’s driving that is more controversial.’
Golly gee whiz, what’s the controversy?
Hello. Is anyone thinking about the longshoremen’s strike on the East Coast?
Hubert:
I’m thinking that anyone who wants to pressure or blackmail the administration, while Biden/Harris/Walz are on the ropes and the election is at stake, this is a great time to do so.
In financial circles October is known for the “October Effect” — several major crashes have occurred in October, including Black Tuesday, the beginning of the 1929 Crash and Black Monday, (October 1987).
Not to mention Israel taking on Hamas, Hezbollah and now Iran in direct military confrontations.
Not all the October Surprises will work against Trump.
Pray ’em, if you got ’em.
Lots of women on YouTube saying that they can’t find “good men,” or that men won’t approach them.
Lots of women on YouTube saying that “men are trash,” or that “they don’t need men.”
Then a lot of older women are on YouTube lamenting that they are lonely and can’t find a man.
Other women talk about how they use men who they pretend to care about, but who they really don’t care about —as someone said, they just see men as “an ATM with a dick attached.”
Then, just saw a very interesting and revelatory analysis about marriage by an attorney, who pointed out that, while men’s obligations to provide for their wives and children are enforceable by all sorts of often draconian laws, in contrast, their wive’s obligations to provide warmth, comfort, love, to honor him, to create a good home, and to provide sex are not enforceable by law.
Thus, as things stand, a very bad deal for men.
They should show their work but how often do they do that?
The ILA strike is over.
Lots of women on YouTube saying that they can’t find “good men,” or that men won’t approach them.
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Excess weight, tats, piercings, bad haircuts, hair dye, foul language, and resting-bitch-face do tend to generate inhibitions.
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Lots of women on YouTube saying that “men are trash,” or that “they don’t need men.”
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Please yourself
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Then a lot of older women are on YouTube lamenting that they are lonely and can’t find a man.
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How many of them served papers on the man they had?
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Other women talk about how they use men who they pretend to care about, but who they really don’t care about
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Some of them get wise to that, exacerbating problems 1 & 3.
Well shes laser focused
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1841921557372751995
Forget the cartels the poverty the crime
I guess they’ve rotated Bauxite out.
@miguel: “Claudia Sheinbaum” sure sounds indigenous–maybe to Europe. Lithuanian and Bulgarian grandparents. Shouldn’t she be apologizing too? The people who believe in apologizing for “colonialism” don’t make exceptions for people whose grandparents immigrated.
Snow on Pine:
I think it’s an error to generalize from what one sees on social media. The young adults I know, both men and women, are nothing like that. However, I assume the sorts of attitudes you describe are more common than they once were.
I take issue with this part of what you wrote:
If either parent has an income that person is required by law to support his or HER children. It is not considered a man’s obligation only. In practice it often works out that way – if the man makes more money, the children are small, and the wife is the primary caretaker and always was. But the law imposes the obligation equally.
Physical abuse is the same thing – the law imposes the obligation on both sexes. And rape seems to be almost always about men, for obvious reasons.When last I checked, a husband’s obligations to provide “warmth, comfort, love, to honor her, to create a good home, and to provide sex are not enforceable by law” either. Or is it alleged that husbands don’t have those obligations?
What other obligations of men only does this person allege there are draconian laws about?
In addition, in six states in the US, you can sue someone for wrecking your marriage and depriving you of marital benefits including sexual relations. See this.
If I were the King of Spain, I’d tell Fraulein Scheinbaum to pound sand.
I take issue with this part of what you wrote:
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There’s black letters and there’s what family court judges make of them.
Neo–We are talking about what–all too often–actually happens in our society, not about the supposed equality of application of the law, about what theoretically should happen, is laid down in law, but quite often doesn’t really happen.
It is very obvious that–in the areas of marriage and family law–the courts are decidedly biased against men, and in favor of women.
Perhaps I am old fashioned but, in my view, while men should provide love and affection, a husband’s basic, primary job in a marriage is as a provider, a protector, and a role model for any children, while the primary responsibilities of the woman in a marriage are to provide love and affection, to honor her husband, to be a helpmate, to provide warmth, children, and to create the household and atmosphere necessary for that family to thrive.
Given these roles, the woman’s responsibilities are not ones which can be mandated or forced, while those of a man can be; your can force a man to pay child support, you can’t force a woman to really honor her husband, to have his children, or to create a stable home full of love and warmth for a family, a refuge from the world.
Dockworker’s strike suddenly postponed until January 15th, 2025.
No mention of who or why the sudden change of heart.
My guess is that Obama saw how bad the strike could damage the economy and the Democrats’ election chances. A phone conference with the union bosses and voila, the strike is postponed until after the election.
A lot of details here, but no info about why it happened.
https://timesofsandiego.com/business/2024/10/03/dockworkers-strike-gets-underway-on-east-and-gulf-coasts-sees-national-and-local-support/
IMO, it’s a good thing economically for all of us. However, it’s a boost to the Democrat election prospects. And that’s bad for us politically.
I think it’s an error to generalize from what one sees on social media. The young adults I know, both men and women, are nothing like that.
neo:
Sounds like dueling anecdotes to me. Among my family and friends, the woman almost always initiates the divorce and mostly it doesn’t work out well for the man.
Helen Smith, Instapundit’s wife, has taken an interest and written a book on the subject you may have heard of: Men on Strike: Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood, and the American Dream – and Why It Matters.
Going beyond anecdotes to data, marriage rates in the US have dropped through the floor.
“U.S. Marriage Rates Hit New Recorded Low”
https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/republicans/2020/4/marriage-rate-blog-test
Since men do the proposing, that would seem to indicate that American men have decided that marriage is not such a good deal anymore. I think Helen Smith’s book does a good job of explaining why.
huxley:
Who initiates a divorce is an exceedingly poor metric by which to determine fault or attitudes or much of anything.
Did the person leave capriciously? Or was it the result of getting fed up with a long history of being the recipient of nastiness or lack of affection? And who is telling the tale, and is it the truth?
There is a lot more cohabitation and a lot less marriage, and part of that is that people just don’t need marriage the way they used to. They don’t need it for sex.They don’t need it for respectability, even when they have children. And although marriage ordinarily allows each member of the couple to have a higher standard of living, with both men and women employed it means that each person can typically get by financially on his or her own. With the steep decline in belief in organized religion, people also lack that impetus for marriage.
Snow on Pine; Art Deco:
No, it is not very clear that courts are biased. It depends on the judge in particular, and the laws in each state.
What appears to be sex bias (for example, in child support or primary custody) is often merely the application of laws to each situation, and a reflection of other things such as who makes more money, who has always taken care of the children, and that sort of thing.
That doesn’t mean that judicial bias doesn’t exist. Of course it sometimes does, and it can go in either direction depending on the judge. But what looks like bias isn’t necessarily bias, and the same is true of other statistics such as (for example) the supposed lower pay of women for the same work (not the result of actual bias).
neo:
Sure. Stories are different. Who knows exactly how it works out in the aggregate.
But we do know that marriage rates have fallen through the floor, there are a lot of upset men and there are women, such as Helen Smith, who are sympathetic.
Is there a reason I should trust your version, which frankly comes across as a lot of handwaving? Have you really looked at this closely? What data do you have beyond your social circle?
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I have worked with men for over 20 years and have heard directly from thousands of men about their concerns, and it has led me to gain more understanding. But mostly, I think one has to open their mind to hearing things that they may not like or that may not reflect well on themselves or society and be able to deal with that.
–Dr. Helen Smith
https://titleixforall.com/interview-dr-helen-smith-kevin-fuchs-going-galt-mgtow-mens-rights-warren-farrell/
huxley:
For the same reason you should trust or not trust anything I say. I don’t ordinarily “handwave,” whatever that means.
I have worked in the field of divorce in many capacities. I have done divorce mediation. I have worked (quite a while ago) in a legal services that did divorces. I have studied divorce statistics in coursework when in training in the 1990s to be a marriage and family therapist. I have done couples and marriage therapy with many families. I have read tons of statistics and more recent online studies on the subject, which is a special interest of mine and has been since the 1970s. Back then, by the way, I wrote a lengthy research paper in law school (90 pages long) on sex-based discrimination in child custody cases, when things were sometimes biased in favor of the woman and sometimes the man (it was a different but complicated situation back then, too, which I could explain if you like). And a couple of years ago I spent quite a bit of time reading on those online message boards that feature guys who feel women have screwed them over, and who have renounced marriage.
Yes, I’ve really looked at this closely.
Or perhaps that’s all just “handwaving”?
@ J J > “Was Helene the result of climate change?”
Please note Anthony Watts’ final sentence:
So, are Hillary and Kerry and Kamala and Co. going to demand all these people be censored for publishing egregious misinformation aka lies?
Don’t hold your breath.
@ sdferr > “A photograph of rescue from Helene.”
Thanks for your link to the drone footage, the devastation is heart-breaking.
However, although the photo is also a heart-tugger, reader’s added context, probably after you posted:
Despite my rejection of the Democrats’ all-censorship all-the-time agitation, it would sometimes be useful if people at least had to put a little “watermark” on their AI products.
@ miguel – I always enjoy Don Surber’s posts, thanks for the link.
The ILA strike is a very complex affair, and there are moving parts that don’t get explained by the punditry, and especially the Regime Media.
One of Don’s commenters suggested reading this post by Sundance to get some background information not generally making it to the news.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/10/02/dragon-riding-dockworker-strike-underway-as-alinsky-methods-deployed-against-labor-union-head-harold-daggett/#more-264703
IF, as Sundance says, most of our ports are owned by non-American interests, and IF automation equipment is produced by and under the control of China or other foreign actors, THEN there are legitimate concerns that need to be investigated.
However, as another commenter points out, the Union Boss’s rants are not winning him friends among the populace, and the complaints he raises against automation are primarily that it decreases the income of the union workers, NOT that the ports will be totally under the control of foreign actors, primarily Chinese.
As the comments note: the issues of port control & automation are separable; the control of ports is a national security issue that our Regime takes no interest in; fuller automation makes importing cheaper and incentivizes more off-shoring; BUT slowing down port operations is not the most effective way to fight off-shoring of American industries and jobs, which is driven by a lot of factors other than the cost of unloading the goods when they get here.
That is a vast over-simplification of what looks like a very complex issue, but I wanted to get those points out into the conversation, because I’m not seeing them anywhere else to date.
@ J.J. > “My guess is that Obama saw how bad the strike could damage the economy and the Democrats’ election chances. A phone conference with the union bosses and voila, the strike is postponed until after the election.”
My guess is that your guess has some validity, although it might not be Obama himself making the call, and I wonder why they let it go so long before intervening. Perhaps it was Kamala’s declaration of solidarity with the union coupled with the over-the-top selfishness of the ILA’s boss dissing the voters.
Someone speculated earlier that this was a planned crisis, which Biden/Harris Inc would step in and “solve” so as to get credit both as union supporters AND as champions of the people (after having crashed the economy so that there was a real need to bolster their pretense of caring for anyone but themselves).
However, the situation got messy fast if that was the case, and the “save” came after a lot of psychological damage was already done, which would not have been part of the “plan” to head off impending material harm; plus the fix was unaccountably sub rosa, so that Biden’s administration isn’t getting any credit.
So — I got nothin’ further about who, what, why, and how.
miguel cervantes
Yup.
If President Scheinbaum of Mexico wants Spain to apologize for “colonial mistreatment,” Spain should issue an apology for having the sheer effrontery of interfering with indigenous traditions, such as ending the Aztec practice of human sacrifice. (The Spaniards had a lot of indigenous allies in their war against the Aztecs. Apparently not everyone in Mexico agreed with the Aztec tradition of human sacrifice. After all, it was the subject tribes who were sacrificed.)
Mexico has had 200 years to get it together.
P.S. I don’t pretend to believe that the people who take the time to post things on Youtube, or about whom such posts are made, are presenting a totally accurate reflection of the current condition of society.
What I do think is that such posts may reflect current thinking/trends among a certain proportion/segment–maybe large, maybe small–of the population.
About 60% of all divorces are initiated by wives, about 30% by husbands, and about 10% in some sort of joint filing. In marriages with children, about 67% are initiated by wives. It’s an indicative metric. It’s not invalid or misleading, just something which requires elaboration.
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You want dueling anecdotes, I’ve seen three young men in our families treated to appalling behavior by the women they married. The one mitigating factor was that none of the couples in question had yet had any children. And you know what? People discuss this sort of thing as if it were a weather event.
@ Gringo > “Mexico has had 200 years to get it together.”
The Mexican war of independence against Spain, formally concluded in 1821, seems to be a mixed bag of good and bad, not an unusual feature of wars.
https://www.history.com/topics/latin-america/struggle-for-mexican-independence
In that vein, a small personal rant:
Americans descended from slaves have had about 160 years to get it together counting from the Civil War. Granted, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a setback in many ways. The Democrats of the South may have lost, but their ideological descendants have continued operating virtual plantations, which are not as overt as the physical ones but are just as crippling.
Americans of indigenous descent have started their recovery era comparatively recently, given that Reservation life and the Bureau of Indian Affairs extended the period of genuine oppression. However, the “land acknowledgement” theater of the Left is at least 200 years past its sell-by date.
Losing wars has consequences, whether we like them or not.
(FWIW, I am as much an Indian as Liawatha Fauxcahontas Warren, having a quarter-blood Cherokee great-grandmother on my father’s side; one AesopSon got her cheekbones, but I’m Irish-Welsh all the way from the other side of the family.)
Muslims, especially those currently invading Europe, are still sore about losing the Battle of Vienna, which passed its 341st anniversary on 12 September, having been fought in 1683 between the Christian European states and the Ottomans, and won by Christians commanded by Polish king John III Sobieski.
Continually re-litigating ancient grievances is no way to improve anyone’s life.
The history of Europe alone is replete with decades-long wars over which noble family (or church hierarchy) is going to oppress the peasants this time
We have enough recent and ongoing grievances to keep us busy.
Which is not to say that we shouldn’t celebrate our national heritage, just that we shouldn’t get bogged down by What Used to Be to the extent that we poison the well of What is Now.
“Cymry byw!” as my Welsh cousins say.
Friday morning musing continued:
Oddly, that philosophy kind of puts me in tune with Kamala’s campy meme, “What can be, unburdened by what has been.”
Although she uses the phrase to dodge responsibility for her past actions, including her inactions as veep, and it has well-documented Marxist roots, the sentiment itself has some validity as a psychological concept.
https://www.dailydot.com/memes/what-can-be-unburdened-by-what-has-been-meme/
The post is sympathetic to Harris, but it’s a good history of her memetic character.
One tweet cited therein supposedly gotchas DeSantis, who is fictionally presented as saying, “It’s nonsensical. How can you be unburdened by what has been AND exist within the context?” by having Harris reply, “Ron, I thought Florida had coconut trees.”
The answer circles back to another of her memetic catchphrases from 2023, “You think you just fell out of a coconut tree?” — presumably in the family yard in Jamaica — followed by “You exist in the context of all in which you live and what came before you.”
The crux IMO is the “unburdened” part of the phrase.
Remember your roots, celebrate what is good, reject what is bad, and do what’s needed right now.
As another memist put it, “God grant me the serenity to be unburdened by what has been, the courage to see what can be, and the wisdom to live in the context.”
The other important word is “wisdom” — which is not much on display in Kamala’s own context.
One more postscript: aside from the word salad speeches, much of what Harris says in her scripted remarks is, like Obama’s, basically unobjectionable and sometimes commendatory (don’t throw rocks, please). However, in the context of their policies, actions, and character, they are always wearing Iowahawkian skinsuits when they speak thusly.
A couple of the memes I liked from the dailydot post, the first referencing our own War of Independence, which quit burdening the US and the UK shortly after its conclusion:
https://uploads.dailydot.com/2024/07/what-can-be-unburdened-by-what-has-been-memes8.png?auto=compress&fm=png
Kamala’s favorite Venn diagram, referencing another of her meme-orialized classics:
https://x.com/arthcmr/status/1809009176993272269
this is somewhat akin to Macron bemoaning the Algerian intervention that lasted 130 years, and yet france hasn’t totally been able to disengage,
for the first century, Mexico pivoted between anti clerical classical regimes like that of Benito Juarez, (Mussolini was named after him) and Conservative authoritarians like Santa Ana and Porfirio Diaz, it is the former why we have the entire West Coast, because he was a bad warrior, then came the Revolution and the largely Marxist influenced PRI took charge for the better part of a century, one might call it Social Democracy, nationalization of key industries, among other aspects but done poorly
they had their own challenges to Marxism, from rebel groups like the ELZN but they largely crushed them,
On YouTube there are quite a few instances (presuming they’re legit and not staged) of dinner dates in which the woman brings along a friend or two and the man is supposed to pay for everyone’s meal or in one case when the guy went to the bathroom, at the end of the meal, his date had ordered three more entrees plus a dessert to go for her children, all this without consulting her date ( read sucker) and when he objected she said “he should “ be a man” and pay.
In a lot of these cases the man refuses and just walks out. If this is common these days I can see why a lot of men are no longer interested in “dating.”
P.S.–You also see a lot of women (who usually seem to believe that they’re all tens–not fives, sixes, and sevens–and thus worthy of a top of the line, male ten) saying that they ain’t going on any “coffee dates,” or any dinner dates unless the restaurant is top notch.
What this tells me is that–for these “ladies”–it’s not about the possibility of finding someone, what it is, is, all about getting a free meal out of some man stupid or desperate enough to put up with these demands/conditions to get a “date” with these women.
Somehow, I don’t think that this kind of mercenary attitude and behavior was as common among young women when I was growing up, as it apparently is today but, then, I don’t think that a lot of women in those bygone days thought of men as being “trash.”
Snow on Pine:
People putting that stuff up on social media or YouTube are performing. Maybe their whole lives are a kind of performance. Plus, there were always some predatory women and predatory men. The percentage of the population estimated to be nonviolent sociopaths varies from 1% to 5%, which is an awful lot of people (more men than women, by the way, but plenty in both sexes), I wouldn’t base much of anything on what you see online.
neo–Isn’t each one of our lives what we might call a “performance,” as we, first, craft a “Persona” to face the world and, then, “act” as we are moved to act by our particular Persona, age, sex, station, circumstance, and culture?
Isn’t it very hard–almost impossible sometimes–to act contrary to the weight and momentum of our particular Persona, age, sex, station, circumstance, and culture?
Snow on Pine:
That is quite a separate issue from what people are doing who post little vignettes on Instagram.
AesopFan on October 4, 2024 at 2:14 am
Thanks for the comments on the dock strike and ports being often non US owned.
Also adds to the border security issue as not just people, but goods with unknown additions (transmitters, mini explosives, etc.?) also crossing our “border”.