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  1. It appears that Israel has taken detailed 3-D photographs of buildings in Lebanon, which enable Israel to identify buildings with rockets inside the buildings. While this may seem science fiction- as did the exploding pagers seem science fiction- some videos of extended fires in buildings after being struck by Israeli armaments indicate that those targeted buildings did have rockets or some explosive material inside. Some Disassembly Required: High-Tech Goes to War Against 7th-Century Savages.

    Check this out:
    Super interesting thread from
    @Saul_Sadka
    Hezbollah spent nearly two decades preparing for this moment, building bunkers, tunnels, and fortifications. But in that time, Israel’s technological advancements have vastly outpaced them. The IDF now possesses centimeter-accurate 3D models of every building in Lebanon, rendering Hezbollah’s efforts to conceal weapons and positions obsolete. As their human shields flee north, Hezbollah is left vulnerable, scrambling to reach their rockets while being tracked and eliminated by Israeli forces. Israel’s advanced capabilities may allow it to neutralize Hezbollah from the air, without the need for a ground incursion. The real question remains: can Israel destroy Hezbollah’s operations through airstrikes alone, or will a ground offensive be required?

    The article points out that, according to the 2006 UN ceasefire agreement, those rockets weren’t supposed to be there. Just imagine the UN wanting to impose a ceasefire now, and Israel replies that the last UN ceasefire, which was supposed to have southern Lebanon disarmed, was totally ineffectual. Israel could reply that its current air attacks are an attempt to enforce the terms of the 2006 UN ceasefire.

    Neo makes an interesting point that if in concurrence with the Hamas attack on October 7, had Hezbollah invaded and also fired its tens of thousands of rockets ASAP, Israel may well have been overwhelmed.

  2. Hezbollah hesitated for unknown reasons, and now it appears that hesitation was disastrous for them. Evil loses; a good outcome.

    Various X reports say that Druze and Christian areas in Lebanon are blocking entry to Hezbollah members trying to flee to safety.

  3. I guess it shouldnt surprise how many omissions are in that wiki like the fact syria bombed the presidential palace provoking the shatila massacre (which was a dreadful act for all concerned) and the commander elias hobeika later defected to syrias side

    Ignatius back when he was writing labeled fiction the robert ames affair (referred in the tablet piece)was more honest describing how one particular prime minister enabled fatahs consolidation in lebanon he called him the squirrel he could not say his name was franjieh a rival to the gemayels

  4. “…extended fires…”

    I think you’re referring to “secondary explosions”.
    See, e.g.,

  5. Left out is that Lebanon was 50% Christian prior to the arrival of the PLO in 1970. No more, most of them are gone due to the civil war ignited by them. What was known as the Riviera of the Levant was destroyed by the Muslims.

    Israel should finish the job and kill Nasrala and all the rest of the leadership.

    Make Lebanon Christian again.

  6. Secondary explosions, continued:
    https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1838222903520706831
    H/T Instapundit

    Not exactly bottles of arak that are blowing up—but maybe they’re electric bike batteries?
    In any event, one has got to appreciate the description, “regular house in a regular village”…
    Alas this is all too true now that Hezbullah/Iran have gotten their claws deep, deep, deep into Lebanon…

  7. I think lots of Lebanese Christians are in the US now, judging from the large Maronite Catholic parish nearby here.

    My husband was in Beirut in the mid 1990s on business. He took a wrong turn down a hotel corridor and saw that the whole side of the building was gone.

  8. ….To be sure, it’s all Big Bad Israel’s fault, of course…

    Hey, maybe Hezb’ullah and Iran can be touted, feted, congratulated (and rewarded) by the U.N. and all the other usual illustrious suspects as “Urban Renewal” specialists….

  9. This morning on Fox I was watching Michael Oren, a former ambassador to Israel (2009-2013). He said that Israelis have had it with Hezbollah’s attacks.

    Period.

    I knew that Hezbollah started launching rockets immediately after October 7. I didn’t know that they never stopped. These attacks have been daily since then. Much of Northern Israel has been evacuated.

    That could get old. Maybe I should have known. I’m not surprised. In case anyone else didn’t, well, now you know.

  10. Thats not happening any time soon the end consequences of all the wars in the middle east has been the migration from if not extermination of a whole generation of christians from syria iraq et al

    In a happy coincidence one of trumps attys alina habba is the daughter of chaldean christians

  11. Most Israeli casualties apart from the Druze children have been due to anti-tank guided missiles, I think. The ranges of these aren’t long, but they’re difficult to defeat without occupying the ground.

  12. It would take a more confident regime than we find in the qai d’orsay or the foreign office and then again who would take a chance going there for any period of time

  13. Kate

    I think lots of Lebanese Christians are in the US now, judging from the large Maronite Catholic parish nearby here.

    After the civil war in the 1970s, a lot of Lebanese Christians came to the US, but they were far from the first wave of Lebanese to come here. My hometown had several entrepreneurs of Lebanese (Phoenician?) origin. The son of one was Student Council President. My brother and I washed dishes at a New England country inn run by a family of Lebanese origin. You could special order a Lebanese banquet.

    I worked in northern Argentina in a town that had a “Syrian-Lebanese Eating Club.” I worked at a well whose supervisor was of Lebanese origin (known as Turco (Turk-Ottoman Empire) in Argentina.) Years later in the US I had a Postdoc Math instructor whom I found out was a Turca from Buenos Aires.

    The Lebanese get around.

    I am reminded of the Greeks. All the people of Greek origin I’ve known have been either entrepreneurs or professionals: very competent people. Yet Greece, their home country, is rather dysfunctional. Sounds like the Lebanese out of Lebanon, and Lebanon.

  14. Kornet anti-tank missiles, with a range of give-or-take 10 kilometers—IOW plenty long…

    Lethal, deadly.
    Incredibly effective and accurate.
    (But Hezb’ullah is permitted to use them to kill and maim Israelis and destroy Israeli homes.
    Because…well, whatever….)

  15. “I didn’t know that they never stopped…”

    You weren’t supposed to know.

    The media and “Biden” (for the same reasons) did their very bestest to ensure you wouldn’t / shouldn’t / couldn’t know because, well, if you somehow did find out, that would mess up the Narrative(TM)—and make you more aware of what Israel was / is / will be up against.

    Maybe even enable you to UNDERSTAND WTF was / is going on.

    And “Biden” and “his” revolting compadres—that posse—of Israel lynchers CAN’T HAVE THAT, NO most certainly NOT!

    (Jes’ doin’ their job, jes’ doin’ their job…)

  16. I am awed by this precision operation Israel has launched. Starting with splodey pagers, then splodey walkie-talkies, now precision attacks on Hezb arsenals and commanders. It’s practically a symphony of 21C war.

    I love this quote from NBC:
    ______________________________

    Biden administration officials are concerned about a lack of understanding about what Israel’s plans are when it comes to conflict with Hezbollah, an issue that has also arisen at times during Israel’s war against Hamas.

    https://pjmedia.com/rick-moran/2024/09/24/top-hezbollah-missile-commander-killed-in-another-targeted-israeli-strike-n4932796
    ______________________________

    It seems Israel doesn’t trust the Biden administration.

    Fancy that.

  17. Related:
    Brendan O’Neill once again feels compelled to call out the West’s corrosive hypocrisy and the moral bankruptcy of its purported leaders and utterly mendacious media…
    “The West’s reckless dishonesty over Lebanon;
    “Why won’t the political and media establishment tell us the truth: that Hezbollah started this awful war?”—
    https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/09/24/the-wests-reckless-dishonesty-over-lebanon/
    H/T Blazingcatfur blog.

  18. If Hezbollah had joined in on October 7 with a large attack from the north, I think Israel would have been occupied and destroyed.
    ==
    Hezbollah is a party militia which could not definitively defeat other party militias. They’ve never operated outside of a segment of Lebanon which has a population of about two million. As for Hamas, they could generate a day’s worth of mayhem and that’s it.

  19. Left out is that Lebanon was 50% Christian prior to the arrival of the PLO in 1970.
    ==
    It was 54% Christian at the time of the last census in 1932. No one has had hard data on the share since. The PLO was very destructive, but comparative emigration and birth rates were an issue prior to that.

  20. Time for a little “Compare and Contrast”:

    “The Death of (Another) Hezbollah Lifer”—
    https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/death-another-hezbollah-lifer
    H/T Powerline blog.
    Brings to the forefront the absolute insanity of the current Western zeitgeist (with exceptions…but all too few).

    “What will replace Hezbullah”
    https://archive.ph/JysiV
    H/T Blazingcatfur blog.

    Fascinating article but with unconscionable—“REASONABLE”—conclusions.
    Lord Halifax redux?

  21. Stockholm syndrome, Lebanese style?

    “Saad Hariri stirs up storm with comment understood to call for support to Hezbollah;
    “Some lauded the former Prime Minister for his “national stances”, while others slammed him for commending those responsible his father’s assassination”—
    https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-821640

    has “someone” been leaning on him hard?
    (Or is this what he truly believes…?)

  22. well damocles or whoever holds the scimitar tighter,

    after the inquiry, conducted by germans, if memory served got nowhere, well whats the use yelling over lamb stew, the local dish

    we know the 18 year expedition in lebanon didn’t take, perhaps if the shah had not been deposed in the first place, amal would have stayed quietist,

  23. Eventually Israel is going to have to stop Iran. It will probably be a nuclear war. Maybe they can do a decapitation of the regime. It would be a shame if the Iranian people were in the way but we will have to see.

  24. Israell “targets”, indeed, and so far as we can see, hits what it targets.

    Israel also, however, does not “target” in Lebanon — what would under most every warfighting situation imaginable — those things one might expect to be targeted. Things such as transportation infrastructure, fuel depots, ports and harbors intaking resupply, airports, bridges, energy production plants, electrical transmission lines, transformer stations, water supply facilities, waste water treatment plants and so on. In general anything which can hamper the enemy’s war effort through disruption of social function.

    Why? Why are they not?

    Simple. Obama-Biden forbids it. This war, Obama-Biden says, must not be won.

  25. when targeting irregular forces, probably pinpoint strikes are best, we have seen how strategic bombing had mixed results, to be charitable,

  26. Eventually Israel is going to have to stop Iran.
    ==
    The current boss of Iran has a life expectancy of about 5.6 years. His preferred successor was killed in a helicopter crash earlier this year and the current occupant of the President’s chair is a retired surgeon, not a cleric. Iranian foreign policy has, one can argue, been frozen in amber due to the longevity of some of the upper stratum. Imagine Pres. Kennedy was tangling with someone who had been in Lenin’s cabinet in 1920 and was two years older than Joseph Stalin. Iran’s foreign policy stances have been a function of ideological shticks and those erode over time.

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