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  1. Trump is a wild mix of virtues and shortcomings. We’d arguably be better off with Mr. deSantis or Mr. Ramaswamy as a candidate, but you have to be cautious about counter-factuals.
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    The thing is, our national political class is so awful that a troublesome person like Trump is way above the median in quality.

  2. I understand that some Dem Reps are plotting on how to thwart Trump should he win. Another reason to vote Republican down ticket too.
    And not Art Deco, Ramaswamy would not be a better choice. If DeSantis were the nominee, would he be ahead (if ever so slightly) of Harris? The Dems would be calling him Hitler. Actually, they may already have been calling him Hitler.

  3. It is passing strange what letters/manifestos or personal details of criminals are kept from the public and those that aren’t. Wink, wink, nod, nod.

  4. hates Trump like ‘every reasonable person does’

    That’s part of what I find so unnerving about this – the Trump hatred is so deep. so ingrained into too many folks that they think that this is the normal way of thinking.

  5. SHIREHOME, et al:

    I just published a “Roundup” post and on #5 I gave this link, which gives some of Zelensky’s actual comments on Trump. Here are some:

    A [Zelensky]: Trump makes political statements in his election campaign. He says he wants the war to stop. Well, we do, too. This phrase and desire, they unite the world; everyone shares them. But here’s the scary question: Who will shoulder the costs of stopping the war? Some might say that the Minsk Agreements either stopped or froze the fighting at some point. But they also gave the Russians a chance to arm themselves even better, and to strengthen their fake claim over our territories they occupied.

    Q: But isn’t that yet more cause for alarm?

    A [Zelensky] My feeling is that Trump doesn’t really know how to stop the war even if he might think he knows how. With this war, oftentimes, the deeper you look at it the less you understand. I’ve seen many leaders who were convinced they knew how to end it tomorrow, and as they waded deeper into it, they realized it’s not that simple.

    [Zelensky answers a question about Vance by saying that he is too radical.]

    … His [Vance’s] message seems to be that Ukraine must make a sacrifice. This brings us back to the question of the cost and who shoulders it. The idea that the world should end this war at Ukraine’s expense is unacceptable. But I do not consider this concept of his a plan, in any formal sense. This would be an awful idea, if a person were actually going to carry it out, to make Ukraine shoulder the costs of stopping the war by giving up its territories. But there’s certainly no way this could ever happen. This kind of scenario would have no basis in international norms, in U.N. statute, in justice. And it wouldn’t necessarily end the war, either. It’s just sloganeering. …

    I should say that it hasn’t been like this with Trump. He and I talked on the phone, and his message was as positive as it could be, from my point of view. ‘I understand,’ ‘I will lend support,’ and so on.”

    Note in particular that last paragraph.

  6. neo – Saw that pro-Russian right-wing link. Was going to comment in that post but here will work also.

    Zelensky is here to offer a “Victory Plan” to end the Russia/Ukraine war – presenting that plan to Biden, UN, and Trump.

    Vance is nothing more than a Putin mouth-piece – which is why Trump probably picked him as VP.

  7. The dolts currently running the war machine in Washington, D.C. could not have done anything more likely to motivate me to vote against them than bringing Zelensky here to campaign for their candidate, the reprehensible Kamala. Well, maybe if they had brought Yahyah Sinwar, but it seems he has been rather hard to locate recently.

  8. Karmi:

    Legal Insurrection is not the least bit pro-Russian. It’s actually pro-Ukranian.

    Are you disputing that those are Zelensky’s own words? Unless you are able to validly do that, it is you who are the propagandist.

  9. neo:

    Zelensky just recently arrived, so I’m waiting for more sources as to what he has or has not actually said. Some here have claimed he is here to campaign against Trump & Vance – do you also believe that?

    BTW, that link you provided is titled: “Zelensky Trashes Trump and Vance, Signs Artillery Shells in PA” – that is why it sounded pro-Russian to me.

  10. They want to encourage more assasins look how they covered up the nashville shooter for nearly two years

  11. You’re not voting for prom date or roommate. You’re picking the best alternative for the nation.
    You think that’s HARRIS/WALZ???
    Why?

  12. IMO, the release of Routh’s letter is intended to strike fear into the Trump campaign. Make them cut back on events, be extra cautious, watch what you say, etc. It’s meant to cramp the campaign’s style, and make the danger seem much more omniscient. It also puts the already undermanned Secret Service in an even more paranoid state. In other words, it’s part of a narrative that the Deep Sate wants to establish, that Trump is so deeply hated that everyone wants to assassinate him.

    Zelensky and the war. Trump has reassured him that he will support them getting military aid, but that the rest of NATO has to step up and do their share.

    Trump’s plan to end the war may not work, but it involves talking to Putin directly and offering him a deal he can’t refuse. (Probably has something to do with oil prices.) He won’t discuss what the deal is because he doesn’t want to tip his hand. People scoff, but Trump is a master negotiator (read the “Art of the Deal.”) and might be able to put something together. Jaw, jaw is always better than war, war. If Trump fails, nothing is lost. He will not put the restrictions on the use of our weapons that Biden and Co. have done. Trump believes in ROEs where we win, they lose.

  13. Miguel, inconceivable!

    “Gambling? I’m shocked!”

    Encouraging murder, assassination? Unheard of in our democracy.

  14. …release of the would-be assassin’s letter, “calling the decision “rash” and serving no purpose “other than to risk inciting further violence.”

    Kate, J.J., neo:

    I cannot but concur.

    When I think back to how closely they have held most assassin writings in the past — such as the Nashville Shooter — releasing this Routh letter has to be a political decision.

    I guess they are going to keep ramping up the hate and hoping Trump gets shot dead.

    Who will rid me of this troublesome Trump?

    The odds may be long, but hey, it’s worth a try. I’m sure they have other plans in the works as well.

  15. Have they really not found any further information on Thomas Crooks?

    I can’t believe they haven’t broken the encryption on his online accounts. But it seems that whole story has been memory-holed.

    Must not further the Narrative.

  16. Thanks Neo. Reading what Z wrote, it is not really trashing Trump. It is a real Politic statement. Now, he may not like Vance because Vance has been more outspoken on ending the war.
    And NO, Vance is not a puppet or mouthpiece for Putin.

  17. Anyone (Karmi?) who ‘thinks’ that Trump and Vance are both neo-nazis AND puppets of Putin has lost the ability to reason.

    Russia suffered upwards of twenty million dead at the hands of the Nazis. No Russian would have anything to do with a Nazi of any variety.

  18. David Davies – Trump and Vance may not be “neo-nazis” but Russia is loaded with them…

    • Neo-Nazism in Russia

    With the beginning of the Russo-Ukrainian War, Russian neo-Nazis have achieved international attention for their militant support of Russian-backed separatist forces in eastern Ukraine.

    • Russia’s long history of neo-Nazis

    The roots of neo-Nazism in Putin’s Russia

    The origins of this relationship date to the late 1990s, when Russia was shaken by a wave of racist violence committed by neo-Nazi skinhead gangs. After Putin’s accession to the presidency in 2000, his regime exploited this development in two ways.

    First, it used the neo-Nazi threat to justify the adoption of anti-extremism legislation, a longstanding demand of some Russian liberals. Ultimately, this legislation would be used to prosecute Russian democrats.

    Second, the Kremlin launched “managed nationalism”, an attempt to co-opt and mobilise radical nationalist militants, including neo-Nazis, as a counterweight to an emerging anti-Putin coalition of democrats and leftist radicals.

    Am not going to waste my time copy/pasting anymore links to all the Russian Nazis in Russia. Just run a “russian nazis” Google search.

  19. The continued statements from Democrats that Trump is a “threat to our democracy” combined with administration stonewalling on the first shooter and releasing this letter from the second are unconscionable. They fear they may lose the White House and are openly encouraging another attempt which may succeed.

  20. Quotes without a source other than “Google search” aren’t useful. And these days “Google searches” may not be too credible anyhow, since Google has an agenda.

  21. yes indeed look at the way they made the nashville shooter, the victim, because she shot christians, not in spite of,

    the story of why democracy soured in Russia is complex, liberty in a formerly repressive state, sans any restraints, breeds license, the shock therapies of the 90s, suggested by Summers and Sachshs to the liberals poisoned them to many people, the stage managed election by these oligarchs in 96, even though it was against the Communists, did much to alienate people, do I doubt there has been voter fraud, that is the authentic base that allows Putin an opening, has he ordered people to be killed, I would be very naive to say otherwise,

  22. Karmi at 9:13 a.m.

    Well, I looked over some sites conjured up by your search term. And it looks to me that ‘Russian Nazi’ means, to the writers there, any militant nationalist group. So, golly, if you object to some group’s political actions we just call them Nazis?

    Was the Irish Republican Army a ‘Nazi’ group?

    I understand and agree with objections to murder as a political measure. How does torturing a political definition help anything?

  23. Karmi, when everybody is a Nazi, nobody is a Nazi. You have leached all the meaning out of the name.

    According to you we now have Jewish Nazis.

    Have any of your friends talked with you about doing an intervention?

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