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Open thread 9/20/2024 — 45 Comments

  1. One might wish to consider adding DJT’s purported inability to tell a joke to the rather impressive litany of “reasons” why he should be denigrated, slandered, canceled and/or even assassinated…
    …but what are the chances that Trump is actually joking figuratively but not literally…?

  2. So just seeing a couple of reports now about an incident at a Trump rally last week. Apparently, about 20-30 people seated behind and near Trump shortly after the rally all ended up in the ER for severe burn like symptoms. One theory is chemical attack but that would not have been so focused. Best guess seems to be an IR laser. Click bait? Real attempt at intimidation? In this bizarre climate, who knows?

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/09/trump_supporters_apparently_attacked_at_rally_with_clandestine_weapon.html

  3. BILL SCHMICK | THE RETIRED INVESTOR
    Declining birth rate threatens future U.S. economic growth.
    https://www.berkshireeagle.com/business/birth-rate-us-economic-growth-debt/article_c95be8e2-7440-11ef-bb39-8ff4c922be25.html

    In the simplest terms, if you have lower population growth then you will have fewer people producing goods and services. That will result in slower economic growth. But it is not the only impact. A shrinking workforce will also mean there are fewer people paying taxes.

    [and not enough people for economy of scale, and certainly not enough to even try to pay off 37 trillion… easily swamped by third worlders with higher births and more violent behaviors… not to mention, how easy it would be for a country with 30 million extra men to take over a country that has a collapsed military who will draft women and cause the final moment in the extermination of the target… whether intentional or not, replacement birth is a key to understanding what animals are on the endangered list… then, who would protect the Jews in the world? oh well… it was a nice ride while it lasted. do note that no one can argye income disparity any more, as front loading the population with poor makes the concept null and void… ]

    the total amount of debt that a baby born in 2007 assumes was $30,500. That figure almost doubled to more than $59,000 just 13 years later.

    Just 3,591,328 babies were born, which indicates that the birth rate has now fallen below the replacement level needed for one generation to replace itself. This was not supposed to happen.

    [boo hoo, i warned of this over 15 years ago… glad people did something… but i also warned that when things happen outside our perceptual time frame, they are invisable to us… ie. if you cant see your driving off a cliff, there is no reason to stop driving off a cliff… too bad the breaks cant stop or change that fast! so its a done deal… over… kaput… not a freaking thing you can do.. you cant even pay the women who hate being women to have babies… doesnt work… and the imports are not equavalent to the prior residences in many ways]

    tomorrow i turn 60
    I was born the last few months of the boomer just before the next Gen
    that means, that in the next 10 years how many boomers are going bye bye?
    today a good friend of 30 years is dying…

    The year 2020 hit a record low in the fertility rate at 1.6, the sixth straight year with a decline in the number of births. The facts are that ever since the financial crisis of 2008, births have been declining.

    [actually they be declining since feminism dominated…. its a social bomb… more powerful than a nuclear bomb! and easier to detonate without any repurcussions… you only have to write articles, and voila… women will betray and debase themselves over their own people every time!!! see history]

    Teenage births have also plummeted. The number of births has dropped in half from 10 years ago in this age group. Why? The Pew Research Center cites a greater awareness and use of effective contraceptives, as well as an increase in the number of teenagers who report never having had sex.

    [ha.. no… they are so against being married and being wihth a man… you can here them comment in passing in public… if y ou hear them at all… they no longer see any guys below the top 10% as even worth looking at… oh. and they all think they are going to h ave the 666… 6 feet… 6 figs… 6 pack.. my wife got that… but she is not from the US… the US 304s are not even worth lunch… too dangerous too]

    https://www.berkshireeagle.com/business/birth-rate-us-economic-growth-debt/article_c95be8e2-7440-11ef-bb39-8ff4c922be25.html

  4. There is this interesting story all over the financial news this morning.
    In a deal struck between Microsoft and Constellation Energy, a nuclear reactor at 3-Mile Island that was shut down in 2019, will be restarted, and all (?) of its energy output will be provided to a Microsoft data center nearby. About 860MW, IIRC.

    Nuclear energy has been a pet idea and project of Bill Gates for decades. He is keen and invested in some newer and more exotic versions of it. Of course, he doesn’t have any direct control over Microsoft operations these days, though indirectly, who knows?

  5. ArtfoolDigger

    During sixties & seventies Earth was going to be overpopulated by so ‘n so date. One of the Coconut Grove art festivals was themed over overpopulation. Maybe the eighties was also worried about overpopulation, but I can’t remember.

    Guess Mother Nature fixed that issue…?!

    If US and other countries have an underpopulation growth problem now, then Mother Nature will fix that also. I could name a lot of countries that could stand ‘Pruning‘ (including the USA), so maybe Mother Nature will use a World War in order to get the USA breeding again. If USA can’t toughen up, then maybe hordes of Muslims and/or Chinese can get the USA’s surviving women breeding again…?!

  6. Re: Microsoft / nuclear reactor

    TommyJay:

    It’s about AI and power. Microsoft has a close partnership with OpenAI. MS invested $1 bil into OpenAI early on.

    AI at that scale requires huge amounts of power and this turns out to be one of the current limiting factors in AI’s development. I’m sure it doesn’t hurt that Gates, unlike many leaders, isn’t closed to nuclear power.

    My bet is that AI is going to break the back of the Green New Deal. AI will not be denied so we will have to reconsider nuclear as a power source.

    Good.

  7. Steve Cortes:

    Wow. A visibly exhausted Joe Biden just held a full Cabinet meeting for the first time in 11 months and immediately turned the mic over to his wife, Jill:

    “I’d like to turn it over to Jill for any comments she has. It’s all yours, kid.”

    Who is running the country?

    https://x.com/CortesSteve/status/1837171234594865535

    Video at link. This country is in awful peril.

  8. The comment that harris made to Oprah about shoot an intruder, and then apologizing about saying it, was a set up. Trying to get the gun owning vote. Ain’t going to work.

  9. It’s getting more hilarious by the hour.

    Toi, “Hamas condemns ‘escalation of Zionist aggression’ after top Hezbollah commander assassinated
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/hamas-condemns-escalation-of-zionist-aggression-after-top-hezbollah-commander-assassinated/

    Hamas says it condemns the “brutal” Israeli strike on Beirut earlier today in which the IDF assassinated top Hezbollah commander Ibrahim Aqil.

    In a statement, the Gaza terror group says it “condemns the brutal and terrorist aggression launched by the Zionist enemy’s army aircraft on the southern suburb of Beirut,” and claims that the strike was “an escalation of Zionist aggression.”

  10. Hopefully the REPs are paying some attention to the Senate & House races – Trump can suck the air from around everyone else at times.

    For first time, poll shows Colin Allred beating Ted Cruz in November

    Am skipping polls this year and going with bettors bets/predictions.

    • Polymarket – Harris 51%. Trump 48%.

    • RCP Betting Odds – Harris 52.3. Trump 46.3.

    • Election Betting Odds – Harris 53.2%. Trump 45.7%. House – DEM @ 62.5%. REP @ 37.5%. Senate – REP @ 75.5%. DEM @ 24.5%.

    • PredictIt – Harris 57-cents. Trump 46-cents.

    • Oddstrader – Harris 53.49%. Trump 51.22%. (They have other site info that I don’t understand)

    Cruz barely beat Beto O’Rourke last time – BUT the DEMs + MSM threw everything they had behind him. Barely know anything about DEM opponent Colin Allred, and haven’t heard much about him or that race—other than the occasional “it’s close” stuff. Would hate to lose Cruz…

  11. sdferr at 1:33 pm

    Yeah, Hezbollah drove Israelis from their home in N. Israel, and fire daily missiles at Israel – then whine when Israel hits them back. ‘Top Hezbollah commander Ibrahim Aqil‘ dead now…Hezbollah has no clue how they will get hit now until it’s too late.

  12. From generations ago: my grandmother told the kitten joke, except that this time it was the Democrat kittens who had their eyes open.

    re sdferr’s link on IDF attacks in Lebanon:

    I hope the increased Israeli activity against Hezbollah involves blowing up Hezbollah’s missile storage units underground.

    I wonder if Israel has the capacity to isolate Nasrallah’s “cave” under the Beirut hospital- cut off electricity and kaboom entry and exit points- without much damage to the hospital above.

    Hamas says it condemns the “brutal” Israeli strike

    Hamas condemning “brutality”? After all, Hamas is the poster child for nonviolence. 🙂

  13. Re: Trump assassination attempt 2 / golf course vulnerabilities

    Ryan Routh chose to station himself at a known vulnerability on that golf course. Paparazzi had used that spot to take long-distance shots of Trump and other celebrities. I wondered why the SS didn’t have people watching or at least sweeping that spot.

    Now we hear from whistleblowers:
    _______________________________________________

    On Wednesday night, Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) appeared on Jesse Watters’ show on Fox News and disclosed that the whistleblowers reported that the Secret Service has previously protected that golf course “many times in the past,” was previously aware of its most vulnerable points, and typically put people there.

    “Well, what we’ve heard, Jesse, from new whistleblowers who have come forward about this second assassination attempt on Donald Trump’s life, and here’s what they had told us,” he began.

    “That golf course that the President was playing, Secret Service have guarded that course many, many times,” he added. “And what the whistleblower says is protocol calls for Secret Service to station agents along the places in the course that are known vulnerabilities.”

    https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2024/09/19/we-have-alarming-whistleblower-details-on-second-assassination-attempt-n4932661
    _______________________________________________

    It seems we are heading towards deliberate efforts from on high in the Secret Service not to protect Trump.

    It’s not just to keep people riled up about Trump as an Existential Threat and passively encourage lone nuts to step up and take a shot.

  14. Yep, eventually kittens do open their eyes.

    Too bad this cannot be said about liberal progressives or “demokratic socialists’ (read communists).

  15. Vivek Ramaswamy holds a townhall in Springfield. He talks with Haitians and city officials before the townhall, but they don’t show up for the meeting. People in Springfield are frustrated that the city won’t maintain some semblance of law and order.

    No big solutions, but at least an airing of issues. People are tired of being told to just shut up while illegals create havoc in their town.
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/vivek-ramaswamy-hosts-town-hall-springfield-ohio-residents-share-concern-citys-migrant-influx

  16. Durn, neo – wished you hadn’t told me that. 🙂 Anyway, seems the polls were wrong in 2016, 2020, and 2022 so am done with them this time.

  17. I consider the betting markets as a hot take on current events. Not necessarily dispositive in the long run.

    So, according to betting markets, it would seem Trump lost the debate with Harris. And other polls.

    I’m still bullish on Trump for November.

  18. Several news items are reporting that around twenty people who attended a recent Trump rally, and were sitting in rows behind Trump, were apparently exposed to some sort of irritant which rendered some of them temporarily blind, some had burns, and a few apparently had to be hospitalized.

    If true, this could be an attack intended to discourage people from attending future rallies.

  19. Also nessum dorma from clear and present danger

    Last time they spent 75 million on bobby o rourke no latino calls him self beto

  20. Happy birthday art

    Yes they had some bizarre takes on leo strauss in the 00s shadia drury and johan hari had the worst

    O rourke is the carpetbagger of a chicago developer who owned a lot of property in el paso thats why the son didnt want the wall built

  21. Yeah — Happy Birthday, artfooldigger! I hope you enjoy a suitable beverage with a friend or family.

  22. It appears that the Mossad et al. have invested a long time and a lot of money/ effort in setting up and running an intelligence/spy network in Lebanon and Hezbollah environs.

    I wonder how long it will take the agents of foreign bad guys coming across our Southern border to set up their respective networks in applicable US places?
    I doubt Springfield, OH qualifies as a major national security operation for the US, so Haitian operatives are probably not part of this operation. But does/did Haiti have a veterinary school?

  23. Re: Secret Service report on Trump assassination attempt 1

    Executive Summary: Mistakes were made.

    As to Crooks’ prime lone assassin position:
    ____________________________________________

    “A local tactical team was stationed on the second floor of a building in the complex from which Crooks fired,” the AP adds. “Multiple law enforcement entities questioned the effectiveness of the team’s position, ‘yet there was no follow-up discussion’ about changing it, the report says. And there was no discussion with Secret Service about putting a team on the roof, even though snipers from local law enforcement agencies ‘were apparently not opposed to that location.’”

    The report didn’t lay blame at specific individuals and didn’t address whether anyone had been disciplined.

    https://pjmedia.com/chris-queen/2024/09/20/secret-service-report-acknowledges-deficiences-in-pennsylvania-but-doesnt-address-changes-n4932713
    ____________________________________________

    SS Acting Director Ronald Rowe is a disgrace. And after he declared success that Trump wasn’t killed the second time on the golf course this past week, he should resign.

    I’m glad Trump survived, but the SS (again) didn’t guard the known vulnerable position Routh used, the SS missed the shot to kill him, and the SS only caught Routh after he fled because a civilian photographed the car’s license plate and sent it to law enforcement.

    Looks to me like a pattern of intentional high-level negligence and a refusal to take responsibility by the Secret Service.

  24. Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., said Thursday that a senior Homeland Security Department official approached him as a whistleblower shortly before the second assassination attempt on Donald Trump’s life and alleged U.S. officials are aware that five different “assassination teams” are pursuing the former president.

    Gaetz told Just the News Editor in Chief John Solomon during an interview on the Human Events Daily television show on Real America’s Voice network that he believes three of the teams are foreign inspired and two are domestic based.

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/dhs-knew-5-assassination-teams-after-trump-2nd-attempt-gaetz#article

  25. Dax:

    Good link! Thanks.

    We are in such strange, dangerous times. There is no parallel in American history.

  26. Trump is getting a lot of Free ads lately – especially from new songs inspired by him, e.g., my comment @ 5:29, “The Kiffness – They’re Eating the Cats” in this same post yesterday. Cute ‘n funny and getting a lot of views…positive views, IMHO.

    From the same musician & his very young friend:

    It’s a Beautiful Day

    (NOTE: has anyone else’s Click to Edit Window shrunk??)

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