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  1. I’m surprised it took the militant left (by which I mean most democrat voters) so long to go all Nazi on the Jews. They have been doing it for years against traditional Americans and our avatar, DJT. It’s not as if they have suddenly decided to turn their malevolent gaze exclusively on Jews, as in the scene in Return of the King where The Eye of Sauron sweeps down on Frodo and Sam as they travel deeper into Mordor; they have actually widened the aperture of their “Nazi identifyer device” to sweep more enemies into its focus. What would they do without der Fuehrer? Who would they have chosen to characterize their enemies? One could make a prlor game out of this.

  2. On that sorry future day that the Red/Green Alliance may win power over the rest of us, they will turn on each other with a ferocity and cruelty that will go into the history books as equivalent to the many other Great Terrors in political history.

    These are two groups whose core principles & philosophies could not be any more different. I think that the Lefties are insane to the point of suicidal to get anywhere near the Islamists.

  3. Inversion.

    I wouldn’t say I’m a fan, but I am a student of propaganda and this is brilliant stuff. I’m not sure what we do about it, beyond telling the truth and letting history catch up.

    Though that can be too long a time.

    May Israel live long and prosper!

    Hmm … trying to do the Heart emoji and failing.

  4. with lenin first it was czarists, then social revolutionaries, cadets, mensheviks even rank and file bolsheviks, Iran did not have particular antipathy toward Jews well perhaps under the Shah’s father, the one who was a Nazi stooge, so much so the Brits replaced him with the younger Pahlavi,

  5. The pro-Palestine movement lacks majority American support, though their support is substantial within the Dems.

    I still think this redounds against the Ds.

  6. Back to the Disney Death Watch….

    Rachel Zegler, the radical female of color playing Snow White(!) in the Disney DEI live-action film, soon to be released, has made it clear that her Snow White is a powerful girlboss leader and not a mere woman waiting for a special kiss from Prince Charming.

    Prince Charming is a stalker. “Weird! Weird!” (As Zegler is quoted in online video.)

    She has annoyed Disney top-level execs for such stupidity. She has declared war on her Israeli co-star Gal Gadot (ex-IDF) for inside baseball stuff. And within the past few days she has gone public again for her support for “Palestine.”

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-snow-white-rachel-zegler-stirs-controversy-free-palestine-post-great-choice-disney

    Not even Disney wants Zegler to be rocking the boat like this. Bob Iger, current Disney CEO, is Jewish.

    It’s a problem.

  7. I don’t know if you’ve ever read “Reading Lolita in Tehran,” but aside from being a terrific book, it covers this very phenomenon. The left-wing intellectuals thought the Islamists were lower-class blockheads, but then…well, you know.

  8. @Steve

    I’m surprised it took the militant left (by which I mean most democrat voters) so long to go all Nazi on the Jews. They have been doing it for years against traditional Americans and our avatar, DJT.

    I’d argue they did quite a while ago. I’d also argue that even the Nazis took a while to “go all Nazi on the Jews.” It took years as the tension and repression ratcheted up and good bloodier and harder to escape. The Nazis always hated them and wished them to disappear from the world, but it took until 1941 until the more or less codified plan for the Final Solution to happen and large scale exterminationist murders by the Party and its close allies began about a year or two earlier, while some wider ones by more distant allies like al-Husseini began even earlier.

    Prior to that the Nazis were focused on persecuting, robbing, and segregating the Jews from society to help enrich their coffers (and that of the public) while visiting arbitrary terror and murder on them, but they seemed not to have a strong idea on what to do to reach their desired destination, hence things like the Madagascar Plan. This also plays in I think to the “Boiling Frog” issue and questions of why more Jews didn’t flee (or why those that did often didn’t flee far enough).

    Many on the left have justified exterminating or persecuting Jews before. And even many “Reasonable Leftists” like that one bitch Neo quoted were insistent on pretending Netanyahu was just as bad as Hamas or comparably so and that peace meant both had to go.

    Edit: Susan Winfield was the name ,discused here.

    https://www.thenewneo.com/2024/07/10/a-palestinian-adenauer/

  9. Ludendorff is indeed a darkly fascinating figure and I’d argue one of the most central ones that is generally forgotten and downplayed, especially by we Americans who generally do not know much about WWI. And on the subject of “Holocaust Inversion” I think it is worth noting that predecessors of this are ancient, and in terms of most relevant matters featured in WWI and afterwards as the Central Powers blatantly denied a host of war crimes and genocides (as well as their side starting the war) while claiming to be the victim.

    Even after the Imperial Dictatorships fell in places like Turkey, Bulgaria, Germany, and Austria the governments (including Weimar Germany) found it convenient to continue airing this, and this was believed. You don’t often hear the German Social Democrats be aired as being partially culpable for this, but it is true and points to how pervasive it was.

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt9qf0b6

    https://www.erudit.org/fr/revues/hp/1980-v15-n1-hp1115/030859ar.pdf

    http://www.vlib.us/wwi/resources/archives/texts/t040831d.html

    Turkey’s history of it is far more prolific and recent and obstinate (and to a VERY LIMITED Degree somewhat more justified in that a lot of those genocides sparked nasty sectarian wars where the persecuted groups – Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians, etc- would not wait but would form paramilitaries that often committed massacres of Turks and Kurds themselves).

    And it’s worth noting that:

    A: This helped spread a toxic cloud of victimhood that went further afield (including into the West where it affected many people like Keynes) and helped radicalize the public at home.

    B: That this is the kind of stuff that Hitler and many of the other Nazis as people working under the German government of the time marinated in.

    And

    C: Many are still marinating in it, including some from all that way back. But also now like Hamas and Fatah whitewashing their own history to justify widespread Jew murder.

  10. @ huxley > “I still think this redounds against the Ds.”

    See the comments in the Trump Speaks on anti-Semitism etc thread.
    I’m sure the audience was mostly Republicans, or at least conservatives, but word gets around.

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