Joe’s “I Will Survive!” press conference
It seems Joe lives to fight another day. He limbo-ed right down under that low low bar and then skedaddled on out of there.
I didn’t watch it, but I read about it. It seems he faded towards the end, but he was otherwise coherent in his lies and braggadocio, and did a halfway decent job of reading off a teleprompter. Bravo, Joe!
Yep, I told my Wife early on the press conference that Joe wasn’t going anywhere. I do think he was hopped up though. Did good the first half, then he visibly started to fad. During the last parts he was meandering, and at time not really making sense. But, having said that, he was not a total disaster. Watch tomorrow as the ones trying to get rid of him, come back into the fold. Barack has to be fuming though.
It was not a rousing success. Why? Because he was on something that made him more alert and cognizant of his words. However, as the presser went on, he began to slip. He made a number of gaffes. On the other hand, he was far better than the Joe we saw at the debate.
He needs some kind of uppers to keep him alert, IMO.
Even if he’s not mentally/physically challenged, which I doubt, he just seems OLD. I’m sympathetic to the elderly because I’m an old codger myself. At his age I was still lifting serious weights in the gym and traveling the world. But I wouldn’t have believed myself capable of the rigors of being POTUS. At some point we all have to let go of our need to be somebody and accept that old age is irreversible. Politicians can’t seem to do that.
Also, his claims that he wants to finish the job he started, (the fundamental transformation of the U.S. – IMO) scares the crap out of me. Suppose he wins in November? It really would be the end of America as we remember it. Look at the damage he’s done in three and a half years.
The US is in trouble if the sitting President needs drugs to function semi-coherently.
If I was Xi I’d be looking pretty hungrily at Taiwan and beyond.
I thought it was the worst of all outcomes for Democrats. Joe performed well enough that he might be able to hang on, but not well enough to allay fears that he is fundamentally impaired.
Am I correct in that to get on the Ohio (at least) ballot, the candidates need to be nominated by the end of July?
If so, Joe’s performance may have been good enough for him to hang in there till then at least. If that deadline is critical, the next two weeks are going to be full on, and I imagine Jill and Hunter will continue to oppose Joe pulling out.
Apparently he said he chose Trump as his VP in 2020.
I thought it was the worst of all outcomes for Democrats. Joe performed well enough that he might be able to hang on, but not well enough to allay fears that he is fundamentally impaired.
Les:
Quite so. For me this presser was win-win.
Apparently he said he chose Trump as his VP in 2020.
neo:
True. I snagged that on the first bounce. One might dismiss it as, well, people make mistakes,
But not for a sitting president confusing who he chose for Veep with his most profound political enemy.
Re: I Will Survive
I must, again, link to one of the most potent classical musical parodies of all time. With immersible blender.
–Igudesman and Joo, “I Will Survive”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ncNaCAkauA
We will survive!
I grew up close to Hollywood. I have been aware for a long time that some people in the film industry will undergo surgery to look like the actor they are stunting for–it’s called a double. In the past a few very wealthy and some foreign leaders have also had “doubles”. The only tricky part is getting the voice to match. But those eyes were not the same as Biden’s. For weeks now his eyelids have been very tightly stretched and lower. There is also the lower face which looks a little younger, and of course the walk and the stamina to stand and deliver for one hour. Except for the perfect voice match I would say out loud that what we saw tonight was a double . . .
I grew up close to Hollywood. I have been aware for a long time that some people in the film industry will undergo surgery to look like the actor they are stunting for–it’s called a double.
Anne:
Well, there was a brilliant 1997 film, “L.A. Confidential,” which revolved around that twist.
I must admit I’m bewildered by how well Biden did tonight compared to Biden a couple weeks ago. It wasn’t just the tan.
Joe’s had a face lift. John Kerry looks like he’s had one, too. Probably had the same surgeon, both of them look like they’ve been laid out by a cheap undertaker.
Putin was there, but nothing else major happened.
Perhaps Trump should announce that he is returning the favor and naming Biden as his VP .
Biden had a great day except for calling Zelensky Putin.
NEO: Apparently he said he chose Trump as his VP in 2020
FOAF: Biden had a great day except for calling Zelensky Putin.
Michael Knowles on X:
“My main takeaway from this press conference is that President Biden and Vice President Trump have done a marvelous job supporting President Putin of Ukraine.”
He looked old, was fading at end and think he was one who called it. A few times started off on a tangent, lost in his head where he was going so gives the anyway and went to the next safe reporter to call on the pre-planned list. Got to his whispering talking a few times and ended with one.
He opened up the idea of mental testing but waves it off that he doesn’t need it.
Sure looks like they are stuck with him and this will give them a reason he is good most of the time.
The questioners were pre-selected, most likely the questions were pre-approved. A much less stressful scenario. It’s not surprising that Biden did relatively well last night. As has been said many times, a worst case scenario for the Ds.
If Biden won’t quit, they will have to get to work on the delegates, who apparently have a “conscience clause” that allows them to vote for the leader that America needs/whom they are told to vote for by the party leaders. The delegates are mostly anonymous, in terms of national recognition, at least, and are teachers and union people who have no fear of getting cancelled. A behind the scenes campaign to get a large chunk of them to vote for Harris will set up an embarrassing scenario for both Bidens, who will then agree to withdraw.
Under this plan, they would have to write off Ohio, but that is probably a given in any case. They know that Biden is in the “suddenly” phase of his cognitive bankruptcy, and there is little chance that it can be hidden from the voters much longer.
I believe Ohio passed a “fix” to permit the Democrat nominee to appear on the ballot:
https://apnews.com/article/election-2024-biden-ohio-ballot-af8793cb7ab488bdba37f71d03a10f43
Not an expert, but there is something regarding Parkinson’s treatment called the “on-off phenomenon”. It has to do with the last dose of medicine wearing off early in an unpredictable fashion. This is what I suspect happened at the debate.
Schrodingers president again
Like when stan lee got a dose of hulk blood (a minor callback)
I’m with huxley.
I have to say, after reading a lot of non-MSM right leaning press this morning I am disappointed in their coverage of the presser. Most of them are spinning about how the presser was a complete failure etc etc. Their propaganda is just as transparent as the left’s.
To me, Biden made the two obvious gaffes. He did the whisper thing, and at the end did the angry old man shout about guns. Overall, this was a Biden much like he was in 2019 and not anything like the Biden of the debate. Drugs, or an Anne suggests a double (I doubt that)? Whether this reincarnated Biden continues is another question.
I just wish someone in the press on either side would be honest for once.
This is not a functioning human being certainlh one deserving to remain the highest office in the land if he was a physicist youd Fear hed blow the lab up
if this was trump they would have had the straight jackets out,
What stage is this?
https://www.axios.com/2024/07/12/biden-campaign-election-debate
Does this encourage or discourage our adversaries our allies
Lol
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/biden-expounds-policy-party-frets-delivery-rcna161266
T’ tell ya da troot, a Trump-Biden ticket might not be all that bad.
The “UNITY” ticket!
Just what the country needs!
(…Something for everyone…to despise…or laugh at…)
What are we, Miguel?
Ageist?????
HOW DARE WE…?
(Or maybe just dementia-ist…)
I respect my elders but i dont respect an evil ignorant old man
The Biden last night was the Biden of the week before the debate. Possibly drugs could explain it. Also, much was made of ‘no teleprompter’ but I saw them set up. Hard to tell if he used them.
Good thing I didn’t watch it and drank a bourbon or two instead. Had I seen that “Ain’t gonna happen!” whisper from that damned creep, it would have cost me a bottle of Woodinville and a TV!
I have to agree with physics guy regarding coverage. It seems like they are all trying to make a name for themselves, or something equally self serving. A bit of a disappointment…
I think everyone writing on this gets this, but the reality is, it’s over. Those on the Left opposing Biden’s Presidency have crossed the Rubicon.
“… equally self serving.”
Precisely. That’s who these people are. After writing a letter insisting Biden step aside and having it published in the NYT George Clooney is not going to back off his claim, no matter how many sort-of OK public appearances Joe Biden does between now and November. Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel, David Axelrod, James Carville… they will not go back.
Even if given some magical, medical concoction that de-ages him by 20 years, Joe Biden will make mistakes. Everyday. He’s human. Each and every mistake will be scrutinized and used as ammunition.
The drumbeat will continue. And increase and intensify.
I watched the Press Conference. It was not stellar, by any stretch. It’s solely in comparison to how creepily bizarre the debate was that it is not being panned. Biden often lost his train of thought when speaking for more than a few minutes on a subject. He was overly defensive and lashed out at Trump too much. He messed up facts, misspoke.
As others have written, it was good enough to make Joe, Jill and Hunter to continue their charade, but it was not a great performance.
What was missing last night were the inexplicable faces and freezing he’s been displaying recently that led to so much speculation about which neuro disorder he’s not disclosing. Why the difference? It’s anybody’s guess.
https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/07/12/breaking-from-nyt-the-90-million-shoe-just-dropped-on-biden-n3791707
My impression is that the press conference would have been “good enough” for the left if he hadn’t done the debate. It’s become harder for people to pretend; you really can’t unsee the debate. Their problem, once again, is that Kamala Harris is not likely to be a better candidate for them.
Biden did have a face lift. That’s why his earlobes changed (something people have been commenting about online, as strange as that may be). The only way there would be any point to replacing Joe with a double who is this bad a speaker would be if Joe were actually dead.
I thought the differences between Biden yesterday and Biden in the debate were marginal — just a question of the right and the wrong dosages of drugs at the right and the wrong time. The debate was also a more stressful situation, and longer than the press conference (but Trump wasn’t screaming at Biden, whatever Joe says).
In a way, Biden won the week. Nobody’s talking or thinking about illegal immigration and the border any more. One disaster makes people forget another, but when people do their grocery shopping they come up against another disaster that can’t be so easily forgotten.
Our NATO allies were pissed off. Read the European coverage in the UK telegraph, for instance. The presser was supposed to highlight the current unity of NATO in confronting the Ukrainian mess, not a campaign screed. Foreign policy expert? More like selfish dunce.
To me it seems clear that Biden is VERY old and has good and bad days. However, he is not a vegetable, he knows he’s supposed to be President and is officially at the head of the Executive. He also knows it’s the capstone of a long career in office.
He will not resign and he will not be removed by Amendment 25, because he’s competent enough to successfully challenge using the Amendment 25 process (which folks should get really get around to reading for themselves, because media is not truthfully representing it).
I think the only way he leaves the Presidency is feet first–he won’t be voted out because Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania are fortified for democracy. A successful Amendment 25 removal would only happen if he really were a vegetable, or so senile that he actually doesn’t remember he’s President even on good days.
(If they tried to remove him in the “vegetable” scenario, I’m assuming that his staff and or his wife would produce a letter under his name challenging his inability, and Congress would insist on seeing and interacting with Joe Biden in person before voting whether to restore his powers, which would mean something like a month of no one knowing who has the powers of the Presidency.)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/07/12/joe-biden-gaffe-europe-nato-putin-zelensky-trump/
the mark, complaining he was fooled, thats rich, but the haul last month, and previously in New York, was less than expected,
of course he lives on lake como, like the villain from tenet and the worst of the ocean films, oceans 12, so why should he care,
@Rufus
George Clooney is not going to back off his claim, no matter how many sort-of OK public appearances Joe Biden does between now and November. Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel, David Axelrod, James Carville… they will not go back.
Clooney has shot his bolt. He’s not going to keep at this. He’s a dilettante who has other and more pleasant things to do. Carville, Colbert, Kimmel: they have Trump to go after, so they’ll let up on Biden. Biden has only got to weather the storm and his critics will come running back to support him.
now katzenberg, hasn’t donated any money since 21, and clooney, has donated only to the Directors Guild, ht Open Secrets
its rather fascinating what 10 seconds of research will get you,
The point is not Biden. It’s the cabal which runs him. Are we going to get four more years of that?
@Richard Aubrey:It’s the cabal which runs him. Are we going to get four more years of that?
Lol, yes, until Obama moves away from DC.
To me it seems clear that Biden is VERY old and has good and bad days.
Niketas Choniates:
That’s a good summary.
Many serious medical conditions, including old age, are subject to good days and bad days. It’s often not a steady decline, but good days and bad days.
Which is kinda cruel in its way.
I’ve read that people suffering progressive dementia suffer greatly with their self-awareness in the early days. But far enough down that line, they don’t notice anymore and the suffering eases.