A warning: the French “moderates” sold out to the French left in order to stop the demonized “Hitleresque” “far right”
Roger Kimball observes – and we need to pay attention, because the same thing has happened here [my emphasis]:
According to some reports, the final tally is commies 182, Macron’s timorous, head-scratchers 163 and Le Pen’s super hard, far-right reincarnation of Hitler 143.
There are two points and one general observation to make. The first point is that all three fell short of the 289 seats required to nab a majority. The second point is that that failure won’t really matter because whenever there is a “coalition” between the left and anything “centrist” or well-groomed on the globalist right, the left always prevails.
The observation is that this election is very bad news for the country formerly known as France. Le Pen’s Rassemblement National is a complicated and perhaps not entirely savory phenomenon. But on the biggest issue — France’s transformation into a third-world Islamist redoubt because of untrammeled immigration — Rassemblement National is right on the money. In other words, the defeat of Rassemblement National is also the defeat of France.
Kimball goes on to wonder whether there is still time to change things, if in the future Le Pen’s party continues to gain supporters and is finally able to defeat the alliance against it.
Rassemblement National is Hitler. MAGA is Hitler. Anything said by anyone at all is Hitler, if it doesn’t reflect a completely welcoming attitude to open borders to the entire world. When the opposition is defined as Hitler, the left is the victor. And it’s odd to me how many people in this country who vote for Democrats are unaware of how that game is being played on them, and are similarly unaware of the very obvious dangers the left poses.
NOTE: This is an old story – equating the right in this country with Hitler, and it first was happening when the memory of Hitler was very fresh in people’s minds. Please see this.
NOTE II: See also this chilling report on the “Muslim Vote” in Britain.
The Jordan Peterson interview of Tommy Robinson was chilling. I remember years ago reading of the rape of the young English girls and the overlooking of this evil. To hear this man’s first-hand account and how he has personally suffered to be a voice against what has gone on is unbelievable. The fact that it is unbelievable is no doubt part of the reason for it to have happened. But seeing what is true of our own country in terms of illegal aliens being given carte blanche at our personal expense and there being no justice when the horrors of murder and mayhem occur, I don’t find it hard to believe.
In my experience with Los Angeles liberals, the situation is not so much being unaware of how the game is played, or being unaware at all. I engage with liberals with professional backgrounds (i.e., typically lawyers and doctors, and other white collar professionals, too). They also skew older, so one would expect them to totter more to the right. Yet, even with elections between Democrat candidates (we have “jungle primaries” here), the liberals with whom I engage always choose the candidate further to the left.
So, I believe there is some switch (or set of switches) in our brains that is set differently for liberals and conservatives.
So I guess the Socialist Party may form a government with support from their far left allies and from Macron’s bloc. It probably won’t last long.
The bigger problem is that there’s a need to act now in France, to reduce immigration. Muslims already have considerable influence and their numbers are quickly growing. They pour in as immigrants, and those already in France out breed the native population. And they maintain their religion, while the native French become more secular.
At some point it will either be massive bloodshed or else capitulation to Islam.
There isn’t time to fool around while the right slowly makes gains.
Someone could maybe compare how the left will sacrifice women to both Islam and the Transgenders.
The craziness behind it all !
Rod Dreyer is in Paris right now and has close friends that have given a lot of insight as to how things are perceived by the military in that country. The French in the not distant future are outnumbered. The consensus seems to be preparation for Civil War…eventually.
Ira Siegel said “…the liberals with whom I engage always choose the candidate further to the left.”
It’s a weird form of peacocking, I think: “oh, look at me I can vote for stuff that’s against my own best interest, but I’m so well off I’ll never have to live with the consequences of my political choices.”
As for Ms. LePen, her crime in the minds of the globalists and international left is that she wants the French welfare state and other benefits to be for actual French people, not people who have a piece of paper that says they’re French citizens.
}}} if it doesn’t reflect a completely welcoming attitude to open borders to the entire world.
NO. This is only about destroying WESTERN CIVILIZATION.
No one is giving China shit about whatever the f*** their border control policies are.
As I’ve noted many times before: PostModern Liberalism is a social cancer. Literally, not figuratively. It is eating away at the heart of Western Civilization.
It is tailored — targeted — expressly at Western Civilization.
It doesn’t give a rat’s ASS about destroying or harming anything else
}}} The French in the not distant future are outnumbered. The consensus seems to be preparation for Civil War…eventually.
This is not as bad as it might sound, as the French will win this. Yes, the cheese eating surrender monkeys are still going to win it.
Why? Because one of the chief reasons the West has attempted to give up War is because we are so damned **good** at it.
Even the Surrender Monkeys are far better than any other non-Western nation at it.
It’s going to be far far more painful, as a result of this issue, but it has not changed the inevitable end of it.
There’s that generational theory that floats around, about how the coming generation — aka “The Zoomers” — are going to be like the WWII generation, and have to pay the price to fix the fucked up shit.
Well… Yup.
}}} but I’m so well off I’ll never have to live with the consequences of my political choices.”
Or, in the case of my Yellow Dog Democrat aunt, who is over 75 now, and even though she has a daughter in her 40s, and who WILL have to live with it… You back her into a corner and get her to ack that there is something seriously wrong with the people she is backing… “Well, it’s not going to hit the fan in the remainder of my life span…”
SMH.
I cannot comprehend this thinking, if it even qualifies for that term.
I agree with OBH above. Europe has never recovered from WWI. England, in particular, has never recovered. I have a friend, a retired British Army doctor, who was shocked when I once commented that the US should have stayed out of WWI. I added “You should have, too.” WWII was just the last battle of WWI. The French were the first to pretend they were “Musselmen.” Then Tony Blair opened the flood gates to add Labour voters. Now, there is only a few, like Hungary, that are holding the gates.
What i was speaking about earlier
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/hy0prjywa
OBloody:
I was obviously not talking about China, but about the West.
Demographically the older frenchmen vs younger foreigner
Nothing lasts forever, nothing! I too believe the French will prevail, but it’ll be painful.
Sgt.+Joe+Friday on July 9, 2024 at 5:57 pm said about my experiences with liberals in L.A.,
That’s certainly a part of it for some.
Roger Kimball concedes the “steady progress” of Le Pen’s party, now known as Rassemblement National (RN). But that is damning with faint praise.
Remember that the RN is competing against multiple other parties with significant support. I’d describe RN’s progress as explosive:
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RN Seats / % in French Parliament
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2012 2 0.3%
2017 8 1.4%
2022 88 15.3%
2024 143 24.8%
RN (Marine Le Pen) % Presidential Vote
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2012 17.9%
2017 33.9%
2022 41.5%
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Imagine if America’s Libertarian Party took off like this.
French voters aren’t asleep. It’s not a lock for the RN to dominate in 2027, but it’s not unreasonable either.
Vive la France!
In the US, there are many people who are so afraid of those people who are non-college educated…rural…southern…devoutly Christian…etc, that they are blind to the dangers of radical Islamists and Leftists. See my post The Phobia(s) That May Destroy America:
https://ricochet.com/548927/the-phobias-that-may-destroy-america-2/
Surely the same psychology is at work in Europe as well.
David.
I have a relation who has a story about a tree going adrift on his lawn. I’ve heard it three times. Each time, the friend who comes to help is described as not having a college, “but he’s a good guy.”
Wonderful post. I share the frustration. The obvious truth is that the “center”, when forced, always deems it safer to ally itself with the left. The next great conservative leader will be the one who can change that. I hope I live to see it.
The French “moderates” have drunk deeply of the Left’s ‘Kool-Aid’, which at base, consists of the unspoken meme that, the only way that whites can ‘atone’ for their ancestral ‘sins’ is by committing cultural, national and racial suicide.
“one of the chief reasons the West has attempted to give up War is because we are so damned **good** at it.” ObloodyHell
What was once so is no longer true. The cultural milieu that led to the dominance of the West no longer holds sway. The West’s current young possess neither the mental or emotional fortitude to prevail against a determined foe, much less fanatics. Our woke military is increasingly inept.
“Hard times produce strong men” which was the case with the “Greatest Generation”. Since then, abundance and leisure have characterized the conditions under which the current younger generations have lived. “Good times produce weak men.”
My thumbnail description of what is going on now is that the elites made a deal with the unhappy minorities to gang up on the normies. Enough sorta-normies decided they were part of an unhappy minority too.
It’s working now. But nothing works forever.
Hard times produce strong men
Good times produce weak men.
Geoffrey Britain:
But that’s not the full story:
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Hard times create strong men.
Strong men create good times.
Good times create weak men.
And, weak men create hard times.
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So today we’re living “Hard times create strong men.”
Why are conservatives unable to see the cycles of history beyond “Well, now we’re doomed”?
Step up!
BREAKING: Cook Political Report moves six states in Trump’s direction (NV, AZ, GA, NH, MN, NE2)
https://commoncts.blogspot.com/2024/07/breaking-cook-political-report-moves.html
Nv, Az, ga, and mn I’m sure the official reported votes will have the appropriate winner.
France owns about 300 nuclear weapons, mostly deployed on submarines. Discuss in the context of the opinions expressed in the thread above.
@ Sgt Joe Friday > “she wants the French welfare state and other benefits to be for actual French people, not people who have a piece of paper that says they’re French citizens.”
Substitute “American” for “French” and you see the condition that is moving some Black and Hispanic Democrats into the Trump column.
They are not sudden converts to the concept of national sovereignty over who resides in their country. They object to interlopers getting their “entitled” freebies.
Any political party unwilling to curtail the freebies will never solve this problem.
If there were no welfare state (or at least a drastically reduced one), there would not be such a vast horde of immigrants (legal or otherwise) hastening to enter either France or America.
The same goes for Sweden, Germany, and Britain (that I have seen the most stories on) and Europe in general: the imported masses who are now driving so much of the political climate are being PAID BY THE GOVERNMENTS to be there.
With, of course, the tax dollars of the people (aka citizens) who lived there before.
Hey neo, what’s all this about a 2025 project? I’m hearing the left mention this and going nuts about it. I’m understanding Trump’s agenda is fairly centrist.
@Mike K
The problem is that we tried. And we tried pretty hard. So did the British, and indeed immediately before the outbreak of WWI it looked like there was a breakthrough and a new lease on Anglo-German relations due to the Kaiser finally suspending the naval arms race. But then the literal JV team of Yugoslav Nationalist terrorists being used as expendable cannon fodder by the actual terrorist masterminds got lucky, and in addition to being justifiably outraged the Habsburgs and Germans smelled blood and an opportunity to conduct a “controlled” war that would break out on their terms, which is why before anyone else could blink the Habsburgs declared war on Serbia and Montenegro and the Germans declared war on the Russians and French before invading Belgium and Luxembourg.* The British had no incentive to allow an unstable political rival that had already nearly caused a world war to break out prematurely several times over to tear up the international treaties about Belgian neutrality and dominate the Channel Ports (as well as a vast swath of continental Europe). So what followed is no surprise.
Likewise with the U.S. What people tend to forget is that Woodrow Wilson – among his other “lovely” traits – was perhaps the most Germanophillic and especially Prussophillic President we have ever had to this day. Of course it is easy to see why we overlook it: Wilson declared war on the German Empire in downright apocalyptic and messianic terms, and around the time of or shortly after his reelection campaign he concluded it was probable, and that along with his abuses of power have led to a lot of the right wing commentariat to hammer on him (and often justly). But what tends to get ignored is why he was pushed to it. Arguably he inherited one of the US’s oddest and most one sided cold wars (arguably going all the way back to German-American conflicts over Samoa in the 1880s, and definitively to the U.S. victory in the Spanish-American War of 1898), with Wilhelm II going into ranting fits about American capitalism and democracy and talking about bombarding Wall Street and seizing the U.S. Navy in a sneak attack.
Wilson either did not know this stuff or tried to downplay it, especially given how he and the nutjobs in Berlin had quite a lot in common in terms of disdain for the free market, belief in “rational” bureaucratic centralization, and so on. Which is why he was rather irked that he by and large was treated like any other U.S. President. Reading a bunch of his lectures at the time shows how deep his admiration went, and going over the diplomacy has a very – to use an anime joke – “Notice me Senpai!” Vibe. The outbreak of WWI made this worse when he was hit by things like German attacks on U.S. shipping and nationals abroad, terrorism (such as the Black Tom bombing and even a plan to blow up the Statue of Liberty), the Zimmerman Telegram, and so on. The final straw was probably Germany reneging on the Sussex Pledge and returning to Unrestricted Submarine Warfare, in spite of knowing full well this would almost certainly draw the U.S. into the war if Wilson and/or Congress had any pride or self regard.
And Wilson certainly was not lacking in that.
Honestly I really do not see any easy way for the Western Democracies to avoid WWI or something like it, at least given the political cultures and ambitions in Germany and the Habsburg Empire, and made all the worse by just how erratic and bellicose Wilhelm II himself was. In light of that from Westminster’s view in 1914 it was probably better to fight him now when Britain’s word was still credible and it
could draw on Allies in Europe than to fight later without them.
Not sure I would agree. Strictly speaking a bunch of European countries “pretended to be” or actually became Muslim earlier, like Spain and Bosnia, but the former kicked them out. Also arguably the British turn to “Arabism” probably predated the French under DeGaulle, but Mussolini’s Fascist Italy (and its pretensions to be protector of all Muslims) and Wilhelm II’s extreme outreach to the Ottomans come to mind.
Indeed. Honestly I dread how this will go from here and I doubt it will be pretty. Especially in places like Germany and France.
And all because of a withered arm…(?)
This article,”The Silence of the Bells,” pretty well sums up the fate of a Europe which has allowed itself to be invaded–suicidally invited the Muslim invaders in– and, all too soon, will lay prostrate, conquered and destroyed.*
* See https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/07/the_silence_of_the_bells.html
P.S.–I expect a growing flood of Europeans heading for our shores. We’d better handle our Muslim immigrant situation a lot better, or we will follow Europe.
neo
Here is one thing to remember which was told to me back in the early 1970’s – “Communists (and this goes for Islamists as well) never share power”. They will push for coalitions when they are in the minority and then work their way into positions of internal power such as control of the police, security services, intelligence agencies, and military and then will stage a de facto coup. See Czechoslovakia in February, 1948.
They take advantage of power vaccuums likd the jacobins russia china cuba nicaragua iran and egypt on the otherside one might the scap learned the lesson of iran in 79, and forced morsi out
one might see how lawrences crusade ultimately benefited ibn saud instead of the hashemites maybe that was the intention of the foreign office all along
Not sure.
They thought that creating the Arab League would be to their advantage and enable them to maintain influence in the region, but it all fell apart rather quickly.
Cf. “Seven Fallen Pillars” by Jon Kimche for a scathing dissection of British (AKA Chatham House) policy.
https://www.amazon.com/Seven-Fallen-Pillars-Middle-East/dp/B0006DHMSY/ref=sr_1_1
I mean when the same pattern recurrs and few notice who are in authority
The arab league came later though one blames churchill because partition but there was no right way to slice that pie
The husseinis had their sinecure from the ottoman they werent going to give that up
Merely in the sense that they have all these “brilliant” ideas—theoretically—but because their understanding of the situation (and culture) on the ground is fundamentally flawed—a profound misreading—they end up having to improvise, deal in make-shift fantasies, play catch-up, etc.
So that they thought that the Hashemites would persevere, not realizing that the Wahabi were far more ruthless and ideologically driven (moreover, perhaps the Hashemites, depending on the Brits for promised quid-pro-quo support, were lulled into a kind of complacent false security).
And so the Brits had to make up for the “Protector of Mecca”‘s getting tossed out of Mecca. Oh, what to do, what to do… Hey, let’s divide up the Palestinian Mandate, create “Transjordan”—and Voila!—give it to one of the sons (Abdullah ibn Hussein) for a kingdom. Everyone’s happy!…except maybe the Zionists, but who really gives a toss about them…. In the meantime, let’s declare another son—Faisal ibn Hussein—King of Syria, another artificial arrangement lasting all of a year or two before HE was ridden outta town. What to do, what to do…OK, let’s move Faisal to Iraq and make him King! Brilliant…as it lasted a bit longer, several decades in fact, but also being an artificial arrangement, it eventually toppled…resulting in the of sequence of events that ultimately brought Saddam Hussein to power.
Improvisation on the world stage…while at this current juncture, one wonders whether the UK will even be able to sustain its own existence…
Btw corbyn is back in parliament as galloway leaves i dont know what cabbage patch they found him he comes relatively cheap though
The british should have remembered their experiencs with wahhabis in india it cost them at least one governor general
Cf. “Seven Fallen Pillars” by Jon Kimche for a scathing dissection of British (AKA Chatham House) policy.
Another really good read on this is “A Peace to End All Peace” by Fromkin.
https://www.amazon.com/Peace-End-All-Ottoman-Creation/dp/0805088091/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0
An interesting side story in the book is how (very reminiscent of Trump) Churchill was despised by the mainstream ruling class, was overly blamed for Gallipoli (his military advice was not followed), and got pushed out of power. He made a modest comeback though. 🙂
well he was a former liberal, back when they were the rivals to the Tories, their collapse in part because of the Great War, lead to the Labour ascendancy, to a point, in the 80s, they tried to get their act together as a middle force between Thatcher and the Stalinist left represented by Foot and Benn, then they devolved to the Liberal Democrats,
thatcher delivered three elections to the Tories, yet they stabbed her in the back,
over a poll tax, within a few years they were out of power,
Cool Britannia, in many ways, remade Britain not for the better, in part thanks to the Murdoch’s they seemingly discarded some of their leftist, but that was only skin deep,
in the interim period was the rise of Londinistan which expanded into other provinces now in the Midlands,
Remember when Goldwater was literally Hitler?
Pepperidge Farms remembers.
https://www.france24.com/en/france/20240711-%F0%9F%94%B4-live-macron-urges-mainstream-forces-to-unite-in-letter-to-the-french-angering-leftist-alliance
First the Left must unite to defeat the National Socialist hordes.
Now the Center must unite to defeat the Communist juggernaut.
I guess such a nimble square dance must be the new definition of “Elan”…