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<i>Bounces off me and sticks to you!</i> says the left of Biden and Trump and their mental and physical sharpness — 39 Comments

  1. They’re being very slippery by coining this new term, “Cheap Fake”. By (Re)defining what you see with your own eyes and hear with your own ears as actually fake (sort of) since their definition of “Cheap Fake” is sort of a moving target. That low-rent-Mouth-of-Sauron, Karine Jean-Pierre, came up with some a sort of catch-all definition:

    and I think you all have called this the cheap fakes video. They are “cheap fakes” video, they are done in bad faith, and some of your news organization have been very clear, have stressed that these right-wing critics of the president have a credibility problem because of the fact-checkers, have repeatedly caught them pushing misinformation, disinformation, and so we see this, and this is something coming from your part of the world calling them cheap fakes and misinformation.

  2. IOW, “We’re lying and you know we’re lying; and we know you know we’re lying BUT we also know that you’ll cover for us because what’s the alternative? Trump is the alternative… and we ALL KNOW what THAT means.”

    File under: “We also know that you know we’re lying about Trump… But what’s the alternative?…etc., etc., etc…. In fact, we know that you know that we’ve been lying about EVERYTHING… but what’s the…?

  3. Honestly I’ve found a lot of those videos to be underwhelming when you watch the whole thing. But calling them “fake” (rather than “oversold”) is an out-and-out lie.

    Does anyone remember when the Canadian media invented “brownface” for an unfortunate incident in Justin Trudeau’s younger days? Even HE took issue with it: thanked the media for what they were “trying to do” but said it was “blackface”.

  4. Niketas Choniates:

    I agree.

    You also may have noticed that I very rarely highlight the videos and I have long said that, although Joe is somewhat mentally and physically challenged, and has plenty of advisors who steer him one way or another, he still has agency and is definitely to blame for his own policies. He’s not solely to blame, but he’s definitely to blame and is part of the decision-making process.

  5. I think it was the writer Theodore Dalrymple who theorized that the purpose of Soviet propaganda was not to inform or persuade, but to humiliate those on the receiving end by making them repeat obvious lies. In fact, the less connection with reality the propaganda had, the better, because forcing people to recite stuff with no connection to objective reality was not about persuasion but a humiliation ritual.

    In our country we have the same, e.g. “diversity is our strength,” “sex assigned at birth,” “trans women are real women,” etc. etc. etc.

  6. I object to calling Dopey Joe “mentally and physically challenged”. A challenge requires a response.

    He is clearly out of it much of the time. At the recent L.A. Dem fundraiser, Barack Hussein had to lead him off the stage, or platform, or whatever.

  7. How little respect they have for this country dont think our adversaries dont realize
    this

    There are four light not five as i recall the segment

  8. Yes siree, an impromptu riff on electric batteries on a sinking boat vs killer shark in the water- which do you choose? – is downright cra-cra! A sure sign of insanity. A danger that must not be allowed near “our democracy”.

    But cannibals, cornpop, and the const … oh, you know the thing, that’s just a stutter. And the words of a very wise man.

    Anyways …

  9. I think the G7 video was particularly damning.

    I have a fantasy that at one of these pressers with KJP that someone in the press corps would just burst out laughing at her statements and say “Are you effing serious?!!”

  10. And then there is this claim that Trump had to helped off the stage. Of course, the picture is a still photo. In reality, Trump reaches to shake his son’s hand. And then walks off under own power.

    https://redstate.com/bonchie/2024/06/18/left-wingers-claim-trump-had-to-be-guided-off-stage-then-the-video-emerged-n2175632

    Someone should make a meme showing Biden not moving at the Juneteenth event vs any Trump rally where he is moving. He may call his moves “dancing”, but at least he is moving to the beat of the music.

  11. Physicsguy – I agree that the G7 is worse since it shows he can’t pay attention to what he is supposed to be doing. It was supposed to be a group photo op. Biden does pay attention for a bit and then turns and wanders off.

    Most people are saying that he was paying attention to the guy packing the chute, but everyone else was paying attention to the guy who just landed.

    It was amusing to see everyone else rush to get behind Biden for the photo.

  12. Well it’s going to continue and isn’t going away, they can’t hide him all summer. And there still are live debates he will have to do

  13. If these videos were actually fakes, Karine would just put up a truly unaltered video of the event on a slit-screen with the altered one to illustrate how they differed and where the edits were. Of course this has not been done; not by her, or by any of the MSM support team… It is therefore reasonable beyond doubt that this stuff is not “video magic”.

  14. I often look at videos which conservatives claim are awful, and I think the ones with the small stumbles aren’t. But the videos showing Joe freezing and shaking hands with people who aren’t there and not knowing how to exit the venue are a serious concern.

    This business of saying that Obama didn’t guide Joe off the stage when that’s clearly what happened are soviet-level lies. And most of the people promoting this line know it.

  15. But Kate, putting Hillary in as VP, would soon cause Arkancide to claim Mr. Biden.

  16. One of those taranto questions no one was asking sack of potatoes hillary remember

  17. The climax of the 1990s classic Starship Troopers” has the discovery of an insect Queens leading Earth’s arachnid invasion force. “It’s Afraid!” is the rally cry that ring ps out, as the enemy shows genuine weakness.

    The Deep State like this Queen is evincing fear — fear of a People led by evil liars!

    physicsguy states “I think the G7 video was particularly damning.”

    YES. This is true going by the London and Euro headlines I’ve seen
    I hope Team Trump touts THIS Truth immediately in messaging — proof that the Deep State is Hydra Headed menace to a people yearning to be free!

  18. “It is Joe who’s actually sharp as a tack and able to leap off tall buildings in a single bound.”

    One would hope

  19. This substitution wish casting is so much bullshit. Biden/Harris is now and will be the 2024 ticket. Joe has wanted one thing in his life, which is to be POTUS, and to prove all the naysayers, on the right and the left, to be wrong that he isn’t the MAN who must be the King. He beleives, (as Hillary does in her deepest desire) , to be the Manifest Destiny, that Joe will be Righteous Ruler of all he surveys. God keep us all.

  20. And, as the Brits might say, “we are well, and truly, fucked” when (if) Biden/Harris gets a second term.

    Oh, and welcome to f’ing Deadwood.

  21. Hence the importance of being earnest about demonizing Trump.

    Without Trump being firmly promoted / established / feared / hated as THE DEMON—-as THE PARIAH, as THE ANTI-CHRIST or as THE JEW, take yer pick (especially all you Jewish voters)—none of this absolute BS works.

    After “Biden” hijacks 2024 (like “he” did 2020 and 2022), the curtain will be drawn back and Israel will become—OFFICIALLY—what it has already become unofficially: the International DEMON, the International PARIAH, the International ANTI-CHRIST, the Internation Jew—which will energize the electorate for years to come.

    But “He” can’t do that quite yet.
    “He” still needs to hide behind “his” ANTI-TRUMP revolutionary / liberationist / protection / purification act.

    (Which electorate? you ask….)

  22. I too have been sort of letting the senile-Biden videos go, figuring there was something to the charge but perhaps not as much as the right was saying, and anyway my objections to him are far far more fundamental. But the G7 video happened to cross my path, and…wow. You have to be absolutely determined not to see what you don’t want to see to deny that it shows serious dysfunction. Just the look on his face is alarming, quite plainly the look of someone who’s pretty out of it.

    Is this “debate” really going to happen? I keep thinking the Dems will scuttle it somehow. Do they have some secret elixir that will keep Biden functional for two hours or whatever it is?

    This coordinated denial y’all are talking about explains what’s going on at NRO. This post has as of now almost 1100 comments, many of them from leftists denying and deflecting.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-democrats-cannot-pretend-away-joe-bidens-mental-and-physical-decline/

  23. The term “cheap fake” is masterful propaganda. The phrase “deep fake” is a well-defined term, meaning significantly altered by out of order edits, inserted sound-alike audio, and CGI rendered video to distort or completely change a recording of reality.
    “Cheap fake” changes one phoneme (d) to (ch) which will evoke the meaning (artificially altered). This will stick in the minds of LIVs, and allow them to ignore the reality of Biden’s deterioration.

  24. …and AI will take care of the rest…

    (Hey, what are the chances of AI rebelling against its masters? Huxley?)

  25. With Kamala Harris, Pete Buttigieg, and Gavin Newsom looking like the DEMs ‘possible presidential candidates for 2028’ – Kathleen Parker is suggesting to bring Hillary Clinton back from the scrapheap.

    The rest of potential 2028 Democrat presidential nominees remained in the single digits with Democrats. Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer at 5 percent, Arizona Sen. Mark Kelly at 4 percent and Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro at 2 percent.

    Kathleen Parker also suggests that “Biden should pacify Harris and her backers by making the vice president his new attorney general.”

    How bad are the REPs? DEMs have the above list, can even run a ‘Dead Candidate’, and have ‘Dead Voters’ voting for them—REPs seem unable to stop DEMs cheating, and struggle desperately for a win.

    If Biden/Clinton win in 2024, and Hillary won in 2028, maybe the DEMs should also consider promising Harris a Supreme Court Justice seat if she steps down now…if the opportunity comes up.

  26. Indeed, the “fakes” were so cheap the fakers didn’t bother to change a single bit of the originals and — most shocking of all! — called the originals “originals”! How dare they!?

  27. The “masterful” “cheap fake” is actually Joseph Robinette Biden himself.

  28. Parker is a bad joke remember when she was on that show with client no 9 elliot spitze
    r

    Shambling couldnt remember kentanji jackson nor mayorkas name today

    Another election denialist at least three years in

  29. Matt Taibbi predicted this very thing – I guess the age of Talking Points Memos isn’t over yet.
    I’ll give a fairly lengthy excerpt for those who are not paid subscribers, encourage you to support Matt’s Substack because he is one of the few honest liberal-Democrats on the planet, and also give the link to the post in which he made the predictions.

    Everything Matt is doing these days, since the Twitter Files, is important and very alarming.

    “Last week, Racket showed an intelligence-crafted game blaming AI for suggesting “one of the candidates may have dementia.” Yesterday, Biden spokesperson Karine Jean-Pierre played that exact card”

    https://www.racket.news/p/we-called-it-karine-jean-pierre-blames

    On the last America This Week, Walter Kirn and I introduced “HAIWIRE,” a game for training intelligence professionals to respond to AI-created information crises. One of the cards in this Dungeons & Dragons-style game read, “An easy-to-use voice model helps create a viral video suggesting that one of the candidates may have dementia”:

    Developed by In-Q-Tel, the venture capital arm of the Central Intelligence Agency, HAIWIRE was ostensibly designed to help officials role-play responses to AI-generated hoaxes, but it read more like a catalog of messaging proposals. It was therefore shocking to learn White House spokesperson Karine Jean-Pierre literally played the above MIND GAMES card yesterday, suggesting provably real videos of an infirm and confused president Joe Biden were “cheapfakes” and “deepfakes”:

    [herein follows a long section about the G7 videos and KJP’s inane denials]

    It’s been clear for a while that “deepfakes” would soon be evoked as a national security threat. A drumbeat of scare stories about “deepfakes” and AI dates to early this year. FBI director Christopher Wray told Congress in February that new AI methods would require a “combat-tempo response” by the Bureau and “other US intelligence and security agencies” this year; CNN reported the White House held a deepfake exercise in December; NPR just over a week ago quoted the Director of National Intelligence and an Atlantic Council analyst warning of AI-driven efforts to erode support for Ukraine and overhype immigration fears; the Brookings Institute highlighted efforts of states like Indiana to ban “fabricated” media; and so on.

    The game Walter and I discussed on the last America This Week, HAIWIRE, was developed by the CIA’s VC arm just in time for the crisis Chris Wray claims will require a “combat-ready” response. It’s become increasingly clear that officials like Wray plan to use fear of an AI-generated catastrophe — a “HAIWIRE” — to green-light more stringent information control and/or censorship programs. Anyone who grew up in the eighties or nineties will recognize the Dungeons & Dragons-inspired game style, right down to the use of a goofy-looking ten-sided die to decide outcomes. As noted in America This Week, if you roll the In-Q-Tel symbol, your “HAIWIRE” is averted, i.e. if you roll CIA, you win:

    The infuriating thing about the propaganda-as-gaming movement is that grownup, serious technology already exists in the private sector to quickly identify actual foreign intelligence bots. However, the U.S. has repeatedly shown it will not deploy such simple solutions until it’s forced to. As we saw in the Twitter Files, during the Russia scares of 2016 and 2020, companies like Twitter already had working systems for identifying suspicious accounts and limiting their reach before bodies like the Senate Intelligence Committee demanded they open their doors to military and defense analysts.

    Now, once again, we’re already in too much of a contracting boondoggle for anyone to risk actually solving the problem. Additionally, our White House is just one actor that’s already shown it can use having an AI deepfake excuse handy to explain unpleasantly “deep” reality. Beware press flacks warning of deepfakes, as they themselves may be the biggest fakes of all.

    The game is fascinating, and is discussed in more detail in the omitted sections of the post and in this earlier article:

    https://www.racket.news/p/transcript-america-this-week-june-4cc

    “Matt and Walter play a new election preparedness role-playing game produced by the CIA’s venture capital arm (Racket story to come)”

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