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Fisking Biden’s “peace deal” speech

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A very depressing and yet insightful podcast from Caroline Glick:

And from her sister Bonnie Glick, we have this article. Here’s an excerpt that reminds us that something similar had come through a different source a few weeks earlier:

Out of thin air, on May 6 Hamas agreed to the ceasefire terms. Only, what actually happened was that the terms they agreed to were not the negotiated terms that the US, Qatar, and Israel had seen. Indeed, Egypt edited the ceasefire terms in such a way that Hamas would get a “win” and say they accepted the terms, but the terms, as edited, were outrageous.

Here’s the heart of Bonnie Glick’s essay:

Egypt built a formidable border wall, something Donald Trump could not even imagine in a fever dream for America. It is impenetrable, militarized, and closely guarded with Egyptian troops and security forces. The way through it for Gazans seeking to get out of Gaza? Baksheesh. Upwards of $5,000 per person. It has also been a gateway for international aid and smuggling into Gaza resulting in over $88 million in profit to the holder of the border keys.

The holder of those keys is a Bedouin tribal leader named Ibrahim al-Organi, now the wealthiest man in northern Sinai. But how could an ex-con smuggler rise to a position of border control prince? Through connections to the Egyptian government, Organi has cultivated extremely close ties with Egyptian President al-Sisi, and more significantly, with al-Sisi’s son, Mahmoud. General Mahmoud al-Sisi is the Deputy Chief of Egyptian intelligence and he sits on Organi’s board.

Here’s another good discussion of the Biden forces’ unilateral declaration of a peace plan:

Some people disagree with much of this. One is David Horovitz (note the “v” rather than the “w”). His piece is extremely convoluted in its reasoning and he practically ties himself in knots trying to express what he’s saying, but here’s the headline and subtitle: “Biden’s fateful, carefully timed, and highly complex challenge to Netanyahu and Hamas: It seems the PM is being asked to choose between his own interests and Israel’s, while Hamas is urged to consent to its own demise. But maybe there’s a more limited US game plan.” That’s a mouthful, but I think this is the gist of it:

All of the above brings us to the possibility — I stress, the possibility — that Biden himself and his team do not actually envisage the Israeli proposal playing out as specified, and are in fact seeking more immediate goals with only a vaguer hope of long-term fateful change.

The Israel-Hamas conflict is a zero-sum game: Israel wants to destroy Hamas; Hamas wants to survive and get back to destroying Israel. Neither side will agree to terms that definitively thwart its core goals.

By extension, therefore, complete clarity from Biden would have doomed the deal he is more realistically trying to achieve — which may be for the implementation of the first phase, but perhaps only the first phase, of a hostage-truce agreement.

That way, at least many of the living hostages get to come home from Hamas captivity.

That way, just possibly, too, a modicum of calm is restored at Israel’s northern border.

That way, more humanitarian aid enters Gaza. Global hostility to Israel recedes at least a little. Smotrich and Ben Gvir leave the coalition and Gantz stays. All good news from the Biden administration’s point of view and, it believes, from Israel’s too.

Even this more limited process does not obviate the danger of Hamas securing the release, early in phase one, of extremely dangerous terror chiefs into the West Bank, a marked escalation of terror from that front, and Hamas terminating the deal early, with very few hostages released.

Ya think? In other words, the whole thing is absurd. We don’t even know how many living hostages there are, and Israel is supposed to negotiate for “players to be named later”? And give up hundreds and hundreds of terrorist/murderers in the bargain? And stop fighting? And do Biden or Obama or Blinken et al actually think Hezbollah will stop the pressure on Israel for more than a short while (if that) in order to fool the world into thinking something has changed? The whole proposal is sickening, and sickeningly cynical, even as an idea.

At the mention of Lebanon I’m reminded of something else that Biden said when he debated Sarah Palin back in 2008, in the good old days when he possessed whatever faculties he had at his best. To refresh your memory:

Said Biden of the Bush administration’s supposed Middle East follies:

“When … along with France, we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon, I said and Barack said, ‘Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don’t, Hezbollah will control it.”

Huh?

Assuming that Biden was referring to when, in 2005, American and French pressure helped the Lebanese people kick Syrian troops out of Lebanon, who ever thought NATO occupation of that deeply divided country was a good idea?

As if America’s NATO allies would have gone in the first place.

But hey, as long as it makes Biden sound presidential.

After that debate, the MSM praised Biden’s horse manure to the skies. They’re still doing it.

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Fisking Biden’s “peace deal” speech — 41 Comments

  1. Horovitz: “. . . the Israeli proposal . . .”

    Well. That right there gives away the game Horovitz (and Biden, of course) is playing. Right? Because Biden lies. He didn’t offer an “Israeli proposal”. He lied. So Horovitz lies along with him. These scum are disgusting.

  2. sdferr:

    If you read Horovitz’s piece, part of his theory is that Biden didn’t lie. As I said, convoluted. Horovitz is not a Netanyahu fan and never has been.

  3. Horovitz is an Israeli establishment fathead, putting a faux “centrist” and “patriotic” veneer on the positions of the post-Zionist, DNC-worshipping Israeli leftist establishment (which is far more powerful than whoever happens to be prime minister). Not worth reading but perhaps useful for dog training or birdcage lining.

  4. Biden says this is Israel’s proposal: it isn’t. So, that’s a lie. I don’t care how a liar pretends to justify a lie like this.

  6. I don’t have the hour necessary to listen to Glick, but Biden’s people are targeting the opposition members of his war cabinet and the opposition voters in the populace- giving them a club with which to beat Netanyahu over the head.

    Look for the Israeli papers and media to be filled with “Netanyahu Refuses to End War.

  7. Speaking of equine excreta, I loved P.J. O’Rourke’s take on DC’s main effluvium:

    There’s this room, and it’s just filled with horse shit. And the politician, trying to sell you on the massive load of blatant horse shit, goes:
    “And with that much horseshit, you know there’s just got to be a pony in there somewhere!!”

    😛 😀

    I forget, but the most likely source would be his book Parliament of Whores. I could easily be wrong on that, though. But certain it’s PJ.

    One of my absolutely favorite quotes of his…

  8. }}} Not worth reading but perhaps useful for dog training or birdcage lining.

    TBH, isn’t this pretty much true of ALL of the merdia’s bloviations? 😀

    }}} I don’t care how a liar pretends to justify a lie like this.

    Oh, I do. It (paying attention) is a good way to learn their BS tricks so you can be both prepared for them and prepared to eviscerate them before they make their defenses. 😉

    I’m put in mind of this excellent quote from SF writer Larry Niven:

    “I don’t shoot a man for being incompetent in the Devil’s work. I shoot him for being competent in the Devil’s work. Admiration for his technique is part of the process.”

  9. I urge everyone to take the time to watch the Caroline Glick video. She does an excellent job in presenting the proposal and revealing just how duplicitous it is. She also does well in showing how Israel cannot accept it and remain secure for very long.

    Some thoughts…

    1) Biden looks really old and tired. He frequently slurs his speech and loses his place.

    2) Taking the Hamas proposal and using the prestige of the U. S. Presidency to present it to the world as the Israeli proposal at a time when Israel could not respond really shows just how evil that man is.

    3) As much as I think that Biden’s primary foreign policy goal is to resurrect the Iran deal — and I still think that — I think this proposal meant to be a shot at Netanyahu. It’s meant to take him out.

    4) The bit at the end about it having the full support of the Israeli defense establishment is actually the most concerning part in the whole video. I can only assume it’s related to point #3. I hope she goes into more detail about that on a future show.

  10. The Ayn Rand Centre UK video is labeled: “Did Biden Lie about the Israel-Hamas Deal.” Of course he did–just as he lies about pretty much everything. My differences with the Obama/Biden cabal rise above policy disagreements–those two and their teams personify evil. Their economic policies (the Marxian “from each according to their ability to each according to their need”) and foreign policy (appeasing people who not only hate us, but declare their intent to kill us) are out-and-out evil. Not only are they evil, they are stupid, because neither socialism nor appeasement has ever worked anywhere ever. Time to wake up.

  11. Again, Biden has no real agency. This is a Blinken-Sullivan enterprise.
    ==
    There’s no point to a ‘peace deal’ now, any more than there was a point to one in Europe in March of 1945. They’re trying to save Hamas. Hamas must be liquidated.

  12. David horovitz did strike me as a shallow thinker and the glicks as serious ones

  13. Yes that blurt in the 2008 debate was very odd but everyone that mattered said it was totes fine

    Of course fast forward to 2012 and thankd to al quds brennan we knew that wasnt true at all

    Around the same time biden was undermining karzai with abdallah serving his sherpa peter galbraith thinking his drone dart board was smarter than general flynns very deliberate chart of tribal ties

  15. A very off topic comment:

    I could never understand the degree of animosity the “deep state” exhibited towards Trump.
    Specifically, the moment he first announced he was a candidate for president back in June 16, 2015, the long knives were out to get him.

    How strange; here’s a guy with a big mouth, a goof ball hair style, with no political track record back then and whose chances of winning in everybody’s view was less than zero percent, yet he unwittingly mobilized the entire apparatus of the federal govt to destroy him.
    Why did this happen?

    Anyway, I came across this article that I think explains it:

    https://tomklingenstein.com/convicted-by-the-rational-state/

  16. Greg kelley focuses on his critique of the iraq war among gopers thats what put mccains gang on the hunt

  17. Horovitz sounds like he’s willing to accept the status quo ante, in which Israel lives with routine rocket and terror attacks as the price of existence.

  18. @JohnTyler:I could never understand the degree of animosity the “deep state” exhibited towards Trump.

    Half of it is that he didn’t know who’s supposed to get paid off, so he threatened people’s livelihoods. He thought that he was supposed to promise to do things and then try to do them, without regard for whose living is affected. That’s the “why” they didn’t treat him like a normal Republican.

    The other half is that Obama never left Washington DC and the bureaucracy has been taking direction from him since 2017. That’s why the resistance has been coordinated and unscrupulous.

  19. I think that a lot of people remember that Israel was attacked on October 7th, but the scope of the attack is shrinking in their minds. I found that rephrasing the attack this way keeps the horror fresh. “On October seventh, 2023 a heavy battalion of Hamas troops attacked Israel. Targeting women and children, raping and killing them. The poorly defended Israelis were quickly overwhelmed.” Phasing the attack in this way is more impactful than “Terrorists attack”. This also clearly shows that the attack was an action by the Palestinian government.

  20. “ Obama never left Washington DC “

    This! If Felonious Trump gets back in, prosecuting this @#$&bag is a high priority.

  21. The nukba commandos who were islamic state were at the forefront

    Remember they were the jay vee team till they werent after bataclan and charlie hebdo

    General flynn knew al queda was very much alive because he saw the same players pop up in north africa and the levant

  22. A former president prosecuted for actions (duties?, or crimes?) performed while in office? That is unAmerican, has never been done before, and he is a Democrat. (sarcx11)

  23. Biden is a danger to our country and Israel. I blame my fellow citizens–even though I do believe the election was stolen. Enough people supported this man and his horrible running mate (Christians, no less!) that the theft was achievable. We have been suffering at the hands of Democrats here in California for years. This is now a national and international atrocity.

  25. Prosecute Obama not for what he did in office, rather for what he has been up to since then. To encourage future two term presidents to go away.

  26. “just read they found 4 more bodies.”

    They also identified other remains which proved another “hostage” is dead.

  30. I expect will be as bad as kirschner was or worse i have few expectation

    In the 70s mexico made a big deal of grand leftist gestures while suppressing their own guerillas

    Now the green parties will likely be in coalition so misery is likely

  31. “…danger…”

    Related:
    “Who Is Funding the Pro-Hamas Protests; Are They Aiming to Take Down America?”—
    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/20680/funding-pro-hamas-protests

    + Bonus:
    ” ‘Agitate, Educate, and Escalate’: Columbia Students Behind Weekend Encampment Threaten ‘Summer of Disruption’ “—
    https://freebeacon.com/campus/agitate-educate-and-escalate-columbia-students-behind-weekend-encampment-threaten-summer-of-disruption/
    H/T Powerline blog (for both).

  33. Kate:

    Just another leftist. I couldn’t care less that she’s a woman, or Jewish.

  34. I don’t care, either, Neo. The salient fact about her is that this is a continuation of the leftist Mexican controlling party, and the vote total is getting towards the level at which, according to what I read, leftists could change the Mexican constitution and take formal permanent control. Not a good thing to have at our southern border, and no effective steps will be taken to control the gangs who now control that border.

  35. She is close to AMLO I understand. He is a leftist and weak towards the cartels. I expect the same of her.

  37. Just finished listening to Neutral on Fox, I don’t agree with him.

  41. Neo:

    Sometimes your comments have a box around them, and sometimes they don’t. Why is that, if you don’t mind my asking?

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