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Open thread 5/15/24 — 40 Comments

  1. whats up doc,

    btw the Slovakia PM was shot, not long after rejecting the WHO treaty,


  2. “If you don’t know history, it’s as if you were born yesterday. If you were born yesterday then any leader can tell you anything.”
    Howard Zinn, American historian (1924-2010)

    and they do… none of this is suprising… but to those born yesterday it is
    and their egos prevent them from admitting and growing up by learning it


    “A generation which ignores history has no past and no future.”
    Robert Heinlein, American author (1907-1988)

    “If you want to understand today you have to search yesterday.”
    Pearl S. Buck, American novelist (1892-1973)

    “History is a vast early warning system.”
    Norman Cousins, American journalist (1915-1990)

    what happens when you don’t listen to your warning system?


    “What experience and history teach is that nations and governments have never learned anything from history, or acted upon any lessons they might have drawn from it.”
    Georg Hegel, German philosopher (1770-1831)

    “Perhaps the cause of our contemporary pessimism is our tendency to view history as a turbulent stream of conflicts — between individuals in economic life, between groups in politics, between creeds in religion, between states in war. This is the more dramatic side of history; it captures the eye of the historian and the interest of the reader… History has been too often a picture of the bloody stream. The history of civilization is a record of what happened on the banks.”
    Will Durant, American writer (1885-1981)

    this is also a good read… FREE online too

    The Shifting Wind: The Supreme Court and Civil Rights from Reconstruction to …

    https://tinyurl.com/2h8yxtc6

    the supreme court history covers this too.

    in fact, if you read enough on this case, and the cross examinations… you will find that their tactics are not a Suprise at all… they been using them for a long long time…

    and they been relying on the fact that the average human wants to forget this so badly and be bent over the desk again, they will even stop people who do know from telling them!!!

    they dont want to prevent the horrors… do they? if they did, then what would they do?

    is it any suprise that the left is the left and that they want to end the Jews (and now also, white males. which i said in these people’s minds in their texts and writing is that a person who ‘loves’ the group that they target get the same fate as the group they target… the reward for not lettign them alone in ending them… they had to move the protectors away first… and got the ladies to do that and the factions…

    enjoy the non read…
    why learn history?

    “Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” …

    “If you don’t know history, it’s as if you were born yesterday. …

    “To study history means submitting yourself to chaos, but nevertheless retaining your faith in order and meaning.”

    “History is the study of all the world’s crime.”
    Voltaire, French writer and philosopher (1694-1778)

    “History is who we are and why we are the way we are.”
    David McCullough, American historian (1933- )

    “History gives answers only to those who know how to ask questions.”
    Hajo Holborn, German-American historian (1902-1969)

    ok neo
    delete it and censor
    its expected!!
    cause thats what happens to everyone who tries to tell people inportant things they dont want to hear and would rather pretend never happened!!

    Denialism is an essentially irrational action that withholds the validation of a historical experience or event when a person refuses to accept an empirically verifiable reality

    well really?

    Historical negationism
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_negationism
    This is not the same as historical revisionism, a broader term that extends to newly evidenced, fairly reasoned academic reinterpretations of history.[5] In attempting to revise the past, historical negationism acts as illegitimate historical revisionism by using techniques inadmissible in proper historical discourse, such as presenting known forged documents as genuine, inventing ingenious but implausible reasons for distrusting genuine documents, attributing conclusions to books and sources that report the opposite, manipulating statistical series to support the given point of view, and deliberately mistranslating texts

    once again..
    the only people who will lose are those who dont know

    To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill.

    collapse the economy, and change the state in the panic for our good
    i wonder if they ever did THAT before? dont you?
    actually i know…

    “knowledge is power” is often attributed to Francis Bacon, from his Meditationes Sacrae (1597). Thomas Jefferson used the phrase in his correspondence on at least four occasions, each time in connection with the establishment of a state university in Virginia

    so i guess purposeful ignorance and censoring (regardless of any reasons given the outcome is the absence of knowlege, whether reason good or bad)…

    is to remain weak, a victim, and lose agency
    cause that is what ignorance brings, isnt it?

    learning the tricksters tricks first hand, means you play endless ex post facto catch up
    you are always behind the ball, never in front… cause they know and have practiced, and their opposition thinks being naive, and ingorant is ok, cause they are sooooo smart, they can figure it out as it happens all over…

    funny people

  3. like bellesiles that they gave another book contract, after he had conjured up the false firearms records, zinn seems to have dialed up the economic determinism of Beard to eleventy, in his last days, Eduardo Galeano who was roughly a counterpart to Zinn, admitted he had gotten some things wrong but his thesis was right,

    Jill Lepore and a former Special Forces officer, are vying for the new status of lefty scribe,

    in the 90s, there was some what of a corrective, with the perfect Latin American Idiot, Vargas LLosa, Plinio MEndoza and the like, then the economic crisis in Argentina and other elements drove out that old knowledge,

  4. “ok neo
    delete it and censor
    its expected!!
    cause thats what happens to everyone who tries to tell people inportant things they dont want to hear and would rather pretend never happened!!”

    Art, I really appreciate much of what you post over the many years. But, occasionally you go off in the wrong direction. I would guess the VAST majority of the people who read Neo are well aware of the need to understand history to gauge the present. Your screed is directed at the wrong audience.

  5. }}} I encountered this fearless fellow a couple of days ago

    Of course he’s fearless. He’s one of the greatest alpha predators the world has ever known…

    Follow. But! Follow only if ye be men of valor! For the entrance to this cave is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel, that no man yet has fought with it… and lived! BONES of full fifty men lie *strewn* about its lair! So! Brave knights! If you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for death awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth…

  6. }}} “History is a vast early warning system.”
    Norman Cousins, American journalist (1915-1990)

    what happens when you don’t listen to your warning system?

    I like that quote. Nice.

    }}} You ever notice that all of a sudden consumer protection laws mean nothing?

    Not so sure this is a CPL issue, it’s just horrible practice by one of the worst large banks around.

    About 4-5 years ago, I had had an account at BoA for about 14 years. Something happened, and my access to my on-line banking was screwed up (not a huge deal, just an overprotection-nuisance issue). Their automated systems could not resolve it, so I contacted a human…. wait for two hours… nothing, then it hung up on me. Call back, wait for another two hours (in both cases, I was at my computer doing other things while “waiting”)… and again it just hung up.

    OK, so, I go into the actual bank, to speak to an officer there.

    THEY get on the phone, dial the same number I did, and pretty much the only thing they could do was to sit with me for that two hours waiting for it to hang up — they literally had no better access to the idiots running things than I did. seriously.

    I just terminated the account and stopped doing business with the useless bastards.

  7. A disabled Canadian man is now celebrating his “deathaversary” after escaping being euthanized by his government over his crushing debts. Amir Farsoud was due to be euthanized by the Canadian government’s “assisted suicide” program because he was struggling to pay off his financial debts. Farsoud said he was booked into to be killed under Canada’s “Medical Assistance in Dying” (MAID) law after being faced with the grim choice of death or homelessness. However, just before he was scheduled to be euthanized, people raised enough money to improve his financial situation and he narrowly avoided death.

  8. The Biden campaign has turned down the Presidential Debates Commission and is evidently calling for direct negotiations between the campaigns and is proposing two televised presidential debates, one in June and one in September.

    Ultimately, there’s no way that Biden’s handlers will ever allow a debate to happen. So my guess is there will be a lot of game playing and goal post moving from the Biden camp regarding any proposed debates with the goal of making it seem like Biden is willing to debate but Trump’s is somehow refusing. Whether anyone will believe the Biden campaign or not is another question.

  9. Good.

    Dagan commented: “What used to be, will not be anymore, zero patience for instigators and supporters of Nazi terror. Anyone who takes pictures with raised weapons, and posts incitement to murder Jews on social networks, is inhuman, is a Nazi and scum of the worst kind.”

    He added: “I’m sorry that something like this had to come from a civil agency. I really hope we haven’t returned to the concept of October 6th, when an enemy takes a picture with a weapon and says he intends to murder Jews, and we ignore him. It’s time we believe him and not wait for him to carry out the attack, so that we will be left cry with the bereaved families.”

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/389989

    This is a start.

  10. Canada man, there is no death penalty in Canada so kill some gooberment a-hole and get free room and board.

  11. Update on the Cut the Cable series. (ATTN: ObloodyHell, huxley, and mkent)

    Was about to give up on digitizing my purchased movies & series collection – Red Fox AnyDVD & Handbrake were either too difficult and/or wouldn’t convert non-copy stuff (?? whatever it’s called). Software has to be simple for humble me.

    Learned that I would need a blue-ray player for a computer – tried my TV ones, using a capture device, but didn’t have any luck. Purchased a External Blu-ray Drive for $39.90 + tax that should arrive Monday. Supposedly it is a “Burner” and has software…I dunno much about that stuff, so will wait ‘n see.

    Also decided to do one more search for converting software, since I do have a portable USB DVD player for my computers. I used to have at least one internal DVD device in all my computers, but ‘Thangs started moving towards more USB 3.0 and Type-C ports so I no longer have internal DVDs in my computers–those spaces now hold mostly USB 3.0, charging, and Type-C ports, and SSD SATA Hot Swap bays.

    Downloaded the free EaseFab LosslessCopy version, and tested my Zohan DVD (Whar’s Zohan when Israel needs him!!!) in the USB DVD player.

    Notice popped up and said the free version only converts the first 3-minutes of a DVD. OK, fine, and boy is this software easy to use!!! Had it do a mp4 conversion to a 32GB USB—*BINGO*! Fast & Easy too! It’ll do blue-rays also, once the new USB player arrives.

    Will see how the External Blu-ray Drive’s software works after it arrives. If it’s not easy and fast like the free EaseFab LosslessCopy was, I’ll buy the Lifetime License for $39.95 (if it’s still on sale). 🙂

  12. Seattle is full of little conejos like that. Haven’t seen many coyotes trotting down the streets, but they’re here too.

  13. Evidently some of the commenters here have been doing the brown acid again. Stay away from it, it’s no good!

  14. Nonapod –

    Trump wants the debates before early voting starts. That’s his primary interest in this.

    The Biden campaign specifically denigrated the idea of a live, in-room audience for the debates. I suspect they’re hoping that if they can’t weasel out of the debates, they’re hoping that they can use the “TV camera only” nature of the debates to hide just how bad Biden’s condition is. A live audience (with guests invited by both candidates) would make that impossible.

  15. Don’t get cocky, kids. Remember, Biden kicked Ryan’s ass in the vice president debate, exposing him for the fool he is.

  16. I gave up on B of A some years ago when I discovered they had been double paying my health insurance for over a year.

  17. Actually, I thought Biden was.showing early signs of dementia. I agree that Ryan was hopeless. He should have asked Biden what was the matter with him.

  18. the more we bail them out with our tax monies, the more arrogant they become,

  19. I love the IowaHawk description of leftist modus operandi in that HotAir SI article:

    1. Identify a respected institution.
    2. kill it.
    3. gut it.
    4. wear its carcass as a skin suit, while demanding respect.

    Lots of pretending among the left, and yes they hate us.

  20. Apropos of rabbits being fearless, that reminds me of a thing I experienced a couple of weeks ago. I was coming back from one of the Holy Week services, probably Holy Friday, about 10 pm, and driving into the little street that feeds the apartment complex, I saw a rabbit sitting in the middle of the road next to something dead in the roadway. I stopped a few car lengths away, shining my headlights right at it, but it was reluctant to move. It immediately seemed to me that it was worried about a poor other rabbit, probably its mate, that had clearly been killed by a passing car not very long before I came by.

    I carefully drove around, parked and came back over to the body. Obviously nothing to be done for the poor thing, but I did get it out of the road to the lawn, and talked to the other rabbit that was hanging around not far away. Walking away a distance, I kept watching for the surviving rabbit as it came back and lingered around the deceased one somewhat forlornly, as I imagined. I think rabbits really do care about each other, at least sometimes.

    Next morning, I drove by the same spot and saw that two of the local vultures had found the body. They remained intent upon their business even as I drove past just a few yards away from them.

    Not the sort of thing I can readily discuss with most of my little circle, of course, but I was impressed by the event.

  21. Republicans and Democrats just worked together to impose disparate impact standards on just about every business, under what’s titled the American Privacy Rights Act.

    See, Republicans can get stuff through, when it matters to them. They could, of course, use their majority in the House to deny the passage of the bill entirely if the disparate impact language isn’t struck out, but looks like they won’t. I’d be delighted if they surprised me.

    The investigations and hearings and impeachment talk are well calculated to distract us from stuff like this, I’m afraid it works all too well. But this is the real business of Congress, appropriations and changing rules to benefit cronies, and the issues we think of as the stuff of party politics, the things voters choose D or R for, are a distant second in terms of where their time and effort goes.

  22. Niketas Choniates:

    I read that article at Reason and I read the comments to the article. Quite a few of the comments say the author is incorrect in his interpretation of the act, and that it doesn’t do what is described and is far narrower. I don’t think Republicans agree with the author on what the bill does.

  23. Quite a few of the comments say the author is incorrect in his interpretation of the act, and that it doesn’t do what is described and is far narrower.

    Oh, well if 3 out of 26 anonymous commenters said so, I guess we’ve nothing to fear… but I linked to the the text of the bill so you or anyone else can make up your own mind about it.

    I don’t think Republicans agree with the author on what the bill does.

    Lol. Even if they don’t, once the bill is law it’s out of their hands what it does. Rulemaking agencies and Hawaiian judges will see to that. This sort of thing has happened plenty of times before, for example with a budget that Republicans helped pass in 2016 that incorporated the Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation Act which has been used against us ever since. Sponsored by a Republican and passed with all but one Republican vote…

    And that sponsoring Republican said,

    “But today, the United States has taken a critical step towards confronting the extensive, and destabilizing, foreign propaganda and disinformation operations being waged against us by our enemies overseas. With this bill now law, we are finally signaling that enough is enough; the United States will no longer sit on the sidelines. We are going to confront this threat head-on.

    I’m sure he never dreamed it would be used against Republicans, but here we are.

  24. THIS should certainly put that totally fabricated Israeli Genocide Blood Libel to rest…
    “Hamas-UN Bullshit Blood Libel;
    “The United Nations casually concedes the falsity of its incendiary Gaza casualty data”—
    https://graboyes.substack.com/p/hamas-un-bullshit-blood-libel
    H/T Powerline blog

    Heh, just kidding…

    (The “reports” did their repulsive work exceeding well—just like they were supposed to.
    They will continue to do their repulsive work exceeding well—just like they are supposed to.)

    The UN can, at this point, say what it wants; but it should most certainly take a bow….

    + Bonus:
    “IDF claims photos show Hamas combatants inside UN compound in Rafah;
    “Footage appears to show the marked individuals bursting through the UN compound entrance and firing weapons”—
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/idf-claims-photos-show-hamas-combatants-un-compound-rafah

  25. Dem Rep. Phillips: We Should Cancel Dem Convention, Things ‘Looking Awfully Like 1968’

    Host Bret Baier then cut in to ask, “1968 was in Chicago, the Democratic Convention. Do you think it could look a little like that?”

    Phillips answered, “I think it can, and frankly, I think it would be in the best interests of the Democratic Party to forego the convention this year and focus on campaigning.”

    It must be looking really bad to the DEMS – am sorta trusting the news on this since there is no talk of a “Red Wave” again…

  26. Via Breitbart —
    Exclusive — Ann McElhinney, Phelim McAleer on Their Play ‘October 7: In Their Own Words’. The play we need now.

    It is the ‘Only Play Opening in New York that Needs Permanent Police Protection’

    The new play “October 7: In Their Own Words” brings to life the Hamas terrorist attack through the actual words of Israelis who lived through the cataclysmic day. Based on interviews conducted by the play’s producers — Ann McElhinney and Phelim McAleer — the stage drama revisits what they call the “darkest day in Israel’s history.”

    Both print article and podcast interview wit the authors.
    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2024/05/15/october-7-play/

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