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  1. I’m guessing that the Venezuelans and Cubans aren’t the libertarian types, more like underclass/prison types. They’ll find out who they should vote for when they’re signing up for the freebies. We’re not getting political refugees, just grifters, criminals and terrorists. Once they get their cards and benefits, they’ll take vacations in the old country.

  2. How much of this is part of a plan and how much does it reflect the fact that Spanish-speakers would feel more like going to places with large numbers of Spanish-speakers?

  3. Flooding Texas and—especially—Florida with illegals?
    What a great idea!!
    The next step is to give them the vote!
    …so that “Biden” can rid “himself” of those pesky Governors…

    Yep, Democracy in action….
    (More accurately, the Democratic Party in action…)

  4. feral lunch lady:

    No way to tell, but in general Cuban and Venezuelan immigrants to this country vote Republican. See this as well as this.

  5. i think they would have a harder time in Florida, then Texas, the breakdown isn’t by ethnicity, as if they don’t know, we know Mariel entrants about 125,000 more than New York has now, got a bad rap, because of a small cohort, that is probably true with the Venezuelan and Nicaraguan contingent, but it makes ‘a mockery of two shams, of a travesty’ the whole Martha’s Vineyard sham*

    its a much larger contingent to Miami, seeing how Desantis flipped that county, so of course there is a controversy about the election chief down there, then to say Orlando which is bluer

    *that line spoken by allen in his own mock tribunal in bananas, the marker for the age, let us say Judge Merchan would gag him pronto,

  6. neo–fair enough, I knew this about Cubans, as my family lived in Miami in the 60s and the Cuban refugees were pro-business, but nowadays, it’s not the same except for an unknown percentage.

    Regardless, the point of the 2nd article, written by a pro-immigration shill, has all the usual tropes. He even insults immigration restrictionists, we should become more informed, in other words, we are ignorant and only know guns and bibles. I’d deport him along with the other grifters, I don’t care how he votes. Importing voters for one’s own party is as shameful and corrupt as importing slave labor.

    Do Americans no longer believe in our own country and culture? Not only do we need foreigners to work, now we need them to vote for us. This is Deep State and New World Order propaganda. Regardless of how educated and productive some of these foreigners are.

    People who don’t live in areas affected by this issue have no idea. I live in San Diego, and I know first-hand, any immigration, legal, illegal, good, bad or neutral, results in a loss of American territory. One visual image, which I see many times per day: I was on the Green Line trolley, which stops at the most touristy areas in downtown San Diego. Gaslamp Quarter, Convention Center, Seaport Village. I saw this middle-aged European couple, their body language indicated slight shock, they seemed frozen, because most of the people in the car were overweight Mexican peasants speaking Spanish. I’ve lived in Mexico and think Mexicans are some of the kindest, hardest working, and hospitable neighbors anyone could want, and yet they are not American, and will never be, except for a few exceptions.

    Why should anyone give up their identity just because they cross a border? My grandparents came here in the 1890s, and yet, I’m as Jewish and Zionist as my grandparents. Should we expect any different from any immigrant? I think the borders should be absolutely closed to all immigration, because any immigration causes a loss of territory and culture, regardless of how good some individuals are.

  7. It really doesn’t matter to what party the illegal immigrants who might vote illegally might potentially pledge their illegal support. They would not be filling in their illegal ballot themselves, and they will not be putting it in the little ballot box themselves.

    Operatives for the Democratic party will be doing the filling and collecting for them, other Democratic operatives will see that that those ballots are counted and mixed in irretrievably from legitimately voted ballots, and yet other Democratic operatives will see that no one has standing to challenge their validity. Finally, another set of Democratic operatives will smear or prosecute anyone who tries to make enough noise about it.

    It is not 1980 and our elections do not work they way they said on Schoolhouse Rock.

    Even if it did matter what party they might support, it’s worth considering that immigrants who legally vote now, probably have a very different set of experiences and values from the ones being flown in illegally under this program. One being that legally voting immigrant who followed all the rules had to come here years before they could vote, and so would probably be older and more affluent than this crowd.

  8. feral lunch lady- “ I’m guessing that the Venezuelans and Cubans aren’t the libertarian types, more like underclass/prison types. They’ll find out who they should vote for when they’re signing up for the freebies. We’re not getting political refugees, just grifters, criminals and terrorists. Once they get their cards and benefits, they’ll take vacations in the old country.”

    I think that you’re painting with too broad a brush. At the moment I’m tutoring in English language a refugee from Venezuela who doesn’t fit your description at all. He was a former student there who fought against the leftist Maduro regime and was imprisoned for a time. He saw some of his friends tortured and even killed. He only left when he saw that they had failed and seems bitter that more Venezuelans didn’t join their movement in the fight against the Socialist government. He has a job here is anxious to learn English and join our society. I would gladly trade any ten of our current US pro-Palestinian university snowflakes for more like him.

    Having said that I agree that we are also getting their criminals as well.

  9. We need immigration. If we’re going to grow the economy, we need investment in new/expanded businesses, laborers, new markets/growing markets.

    We need all three, with an economic environment favorable to expansion/growth.

    Why do we need immigrants. Americans are having fewer babies and coupled with increasing retirees receiving SS, Medicare and other government benefits– without growth the government will be unable to maintain current spending, pay for more retirement benefits promised, and pay the interest on the debt.

    What Conservatives/Republicans need to do is take the initiative and tie immigration to growth in the economy and link all immigration to existing immigration structures. We need to know before they get here they will contribute to the country.

    I agree that immigrants maintain the culture they left– good or bad, but most immigrants want opportunity.

    We have more Mexican restaurants/food kiosks than all other restaurants combined. But then, who doesn’t like Mexican food. They’re investing/expanding/employing– which is vital to our local economy. (I wish they’d tone down the bright, primary colors though. :))

  10. do we need 10 milion, 15 million, thats what we’re getting and that’s just on the illegal side, the H1B’s seem to be systematically undercutting american IT workers

    like I say in a mass of 125K just to cite one number, many turned out to be law abiding and productive citizens, but there was a significant cohort that turned Miami into a free fire zone for several years, in combinations with other newcomers from Colombia, that made their presence here, i’m soft pedaling that element, Billy Corben the documentarian who reviewed that era, is running for Democratic party chair, an era
    you think we would not want to revisit, but here were are,

    so the criminal elements like the Tren de Agua, the other gentlemen from the creole isle, from Central America, have a higher profile, the dereliction of duty,
    by the regime, and it’s adjuncts do a favor for no decent person, from any country

    as someone whose parents took the right path, and it took eight years to get our exit visas, even though we nearly missed our window, I am a little askance,
    OTOH, these games that have been played South of the Border and in the Caribbean by our intelligence and diplomatic services made things worse for the average citizens in this country, how someone like a Barbecue comes to have any influence in Haiti, to cite an example that seems to have gone down the memory hole,

  11. Brian E:

    Geez. I’m fine with legal immigrants, people with skills and non-criminal backgrounds who comply with US legal requirements. All conservatives are down with that.

    However, just opening the floodgates to anyone who can get to our southern border and sneak in — that’s an entirely different kettle of immigrants.,

    However, that distinction barely appears in your comment.

  12. almost all of these ‘great deals’ like NAFTA, WTO admission to China, seem to have had the adverse effect, anything that involves hundred of pages, with myriad cut outs, should have been the tip off, so we find ourselves, with the prospect of another massive amnesty, hanging like Damocles Sword over us,

    Venezuela seems to be one of those places that rhymes like Cuba, a seemingly ridiculous tyrant out of Bananas, a series of keystone coups in 2002, and in 2018, and attempt to re introduce some semblance of parliamentary democracy, checked by regime elements, strong Russian Chinese and Iranian influence, that have played a part in the subsersion of South and Central America

  13. Brian E (7:57 pm) and huxley (8:31 pm),

    I of course cannot know exactly what is in Brian E’s head regarding the topic, but:

    I maintain that I can assure you that the failure to distinguish between ‘legal immigrant’ and ‘illegal immigrant’ is, on the part of many — certainly including those who are in charge of disseminating left-of-center talking points — *deliberate*.

    huxley in his first paragraph does what he can to make the distinction — as do I when the topic arises — but it’s always catch-up, given the success of the propagandists.

    They want you to overlook the legal/illegal distinction and feel nothing but empathy for these people. And many are fine people (except for trespassing on USA). But many are *not*. You-all know the rest . . .

  14. Our Federal Govt has been running a *GIANT* Ponzi Scheme for decades, but it’s not a crime when the Govt does it, and voters go along with it. Maybe the illegals can save us from ourselves…

  15. “link all immigration to existing immigration structures”

    I would have thought this would have been obvious that we have an existing immigration policy for legal immigration from immigration laws passed in 1965 and 1990.

    Legal immigration to the United States occurs through an alphabet soup of visa categories, but a small number of pathways. Family relationships, ties to employers, or the need for humanitarian protection are the top channels for immigrants seeking temporary or permanent U.S. residence. And to a lesser extent, people can come if they possess sought-after skills or are selected in the green-card lottery. Visa categories have varying requirements, are subject to different numerical caps, and offer differing rights and responsibilities.

    In recent years, the United States has granted about 1 million green cards annually; while the share varies a bit from year to year, roughly half are given to immigrants already in the United States who are adjusting from another status (for example temporary worker or student). The remainder go to applicants outside the United States. In both cases, the majority of these visas require sponsorship by a relative or employer.

    There are 140,000 green cards available each year for immigrants in five employment-based categories (formally known as “preferences”). The categories were created as part of the Immigration Act of 1990, and the numerical caps were set then and have not been adjusted since, as is also the case with the family preferences.

    It might be time to revisit those caps and increase that number– and add new categories of jobs that are in high demand. What the number of immigrants needed from time to time would depend on job growth. In times of expansion, we should encourage additional green cards from immigrants having the needed skills.

    During recessions the number would shrink. I know this presents problems in that the lag between high economic growth and increased immigration would create lapses.

    I think based on conservatives position on what is happening on the border gives people the wrong perception that we are against immigration. This would be a way to make it clear we value immigrants in the country– but ones that have been properly vetted.

    In addition, Congress needs to re-affirm what constitutes proper basis for refugee or asylum status. The administration is abusing the system by releasing illegal aliens into the country before their hearings– which can take years. We need to codify that all immigrants must apply and be accepted from outside the country. (In this case, Remain in Mexico).

    https://www.migrationpolicy.org/content/explainer-how-us-legal-immigration-system-works

  16. No question along with the economic Illegals the climate element sees a ripe pickings between free stuff and prime robbery. They will most likely at first move where they blend in by language but will venture out from there.
    The Replacement theory is a fact

  17. In the lasts days of the obama administration they shut off access to cuban refugees all the while they were pushing for more mexicans and other central americans trump pushed for a modest pause based on their omnibus language and had to jump through hoops

  18. “it occurs to me that Venezuelans and Cubans fleeing their leftist governments would be likely to vote for the political right rather than the left.”

    That’s not been my experience. I saw your links above. I couldn’t open the second one because I won’t turn off my ad blocker but either way, I trust polls about as far as I can throw an elephant.

    They “sample” a tiny percentage of a population, then try to correct for any biases before declaring that their results represent the entire population. BS. Even if they aren’t intentionally trying to skew the results to reach a specific outcome (which they often are), there are too many variables and unknowns for any poll to be taken seriously.

    The plural of anecdote actually is data. To that end, a single example from my experience. My Uncle Simon was forced to flee and defect from Bulgaria when it was still under the thumb of the USSR. I won’t go through the entire story of why and how (even though it is interesting), but I’ll skip to the point: He’s was inculcated with socialist propaganda from the youngest age and even though he’s lived in the US since he was in his early 20’s, started a successful business under the capitalist system and raised an American family (married to my mother’s sister), he’s still a devout Socialist and believes that the US should emulate his home country’s government policies…just without the corruption and graft this time.

    He just doesn’t grok that the corruption and graft is a feature of socialist governments, not a bug, nor that it was the capitalist system in the US that allowed him to thrive.

    That’s just one data point from which I draw my conclusions…I have had many over my lifetime (I spent 21 years in the military and the 2 decades since have been spent in an occupation that requires extensive travel…I’ve been all over the country and much of the world in my life). People who are steeped in socialist propaganda their entire lifetimes often cannot separate themselves from that. They truly believe that it isn’t the system that’s at fault, only the way it was executed in the place they fled, and that it could work here, if only we do it “the right way” and put the “right” people in charge.

    It’s the same thing that’s turned Colorado and Virginia blue over the past few decades: people fleeing high tax, poor business environment states like California and New York get to their new homes and immediately start voting for the very same policies that led to the conditions they fled in their home states. Fast forward ten years and they just can’t figure out why their new home states are rapidly devolving into the same thing they left a decade ago.

    Lather, rinse, repeat.

    The problem is that Socialism is so captivating because it appeals to the baser qualities of human nature: laziness, envy, greed, etc. The entire premise is that you don’t have to work as hard as, be as talented as, or have the self-discipline of other people to be just as successful…because the government will ensure that those talented, hard-working self-disciplined people will be forced to share their bounty with you. It never even clicks with them that the only way that the government possibly can ensure that everyone has “equity” in a system like that is to ensure that everyone is equally poor and miserable; and often if that fact does “click” with them, they don’t care because their envy and resentment ensures they’d prefer for everyone to be poor and miserable than for anyone anywhere to have more than they do.

    When you point out that the party apparatchiks have more than everyone else, they just write that off to the corruption of the people in charge…it’s not the system’s fault, it’s because we’re not doing it right. We don’t need a new system, we just need to put “better” people in charge.

    Except that the entire system is based on envy and greed. How can you possibly end up with “honest” people in charge when advancement within the system is based on who does envy and greed the most effectively?

    But I digress and I’m going down the rabbit hole. Sorry about that. The point is, I don’t believe that the end result of massive migration of people from socialist countries is going to be net positive. I don’t think history proves that out and I don’t think that polls (even if they are unbiased and properly conducted) that are sampling people who’ve often been here for several generations is indicative of the mindset of people who’ve just arrived and are still carrying a lifetime of propaganda with them.

    BTW, there’s a reason that people from socialist societies that become outspoken advocates for capitalism and liberty are typically fairly well-known…because they are the outliers and their positions cause them to stand out and be noticed. They aren’t the rule, they are the exceptions that prove the rule and that’s why we notice them.

  19. “Biden” & Co. “in action”!!
    1.
    “Watch: NY Anti-Trump Prosecutor Pleads The 5th As House GOP Probes Links To Biden DOJ”—
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-ny-anti-trump-prosecutor-pleads-5th-house-gop-probes-links-biden-doj
    …I.e., pleads the Fifth when asked by Rep. Matt Gaetz “if he knowingly broke any laws while investigating President Trump”….
    2.
    ‘Jim Jordan Drops “Smoking Gun” Over White House ‘Lab Leak’ Suppression At Facebook’—
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/jim-jordan-drops-smoking-gun-over-white-house-lab-leak-suppression-facebook
    Opening graf:

    Rep Jim Jordan (R-OH) has released several new pieces of previously unseen information revealing what Elon Musk called a “smoking gun” in regards White House pressure on Facebook to censor the lab leak theory of Covid-19….

    + Bonus:
    “[EcoHealth president] Peter Daszak Perjures Himself Before Congress: Criminal Prosecution Imminent?”—
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2024-05-02/peter-daszak-perjures-himself-congress-criminal-prosecution-imminent

    EcoHealth. Gotta love the name…

    And an article on “Bombed-Out Gaza” that doesn’t mention “tunnels” at all but doesn’t forget the “famine”…
    “Rebuilding Bombed-Out Gaza Could Take Into Next Century: UN”—
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/rebuilding-bombed-out-gaza-could-take-next-century-un

  20. A high % of those instigating violence on campus seem to be foreign students (or foreign non-students) and immigrant professors.

    “Personnel is policy”

  21. yes they selected that student body let those interlopers into the campus,

  22. “Congress needs to re-affirm what constitutes proper basis for refugee or asylum status”

    There are solid rules already set up, and agreed upon by international treaties. However, the Biden administration has chosen to flagrantly ignore these rules.

    When George III of Britain was trying to reassert the Crown’s authority after his father and grandfather neglected it, he let it be known that certain laws passed by Parliament would not be enforced by the Crown.

    The Biden Administration is doing something similar.

  23. This is not a new program and was used to allow Ukrainians to come to the US subsequent to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine.

    According to a Congressional Research Service report, the U.S. has been using parole programs to admit refugees beginning in the 1950s. The 1996 Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act established parole’s current use “on a case-by-case basis for urgent humanitarian reasons or significant public benefit.”

    …the humanitarian parole program allows up to 30,000 asylum-seekers into the U.S. each month from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela combined.

    What I haven’t been able to identify is whether or not other presidents have used the program at the level the Biden administration has.

    It’s an odd program and seems likely the intent was to help emergency situations, which once again, Biden seems to be abusing– potentially illegally.

    The people using the program are required to have a US sponsor.

  24. You shouldn’t think of these aliens as sentient voters–the Left sure doesn’t. They are just names on a piece of paper associated with an address that will have mail-in ballots shipped to it. For all we know, the handlers that set them up with a place to live and give them their money on prepaid cards instruct them that they can’t vote and tell them the voter registration forms they have them sign are for something else. College kids will be the ones actually filling out their mail-in ballots, so any anti-socialist bent of Cubans and Venezuelans is a moot point.

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