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Open thread 4/27/24 — 48 Comments

  1. Don’t you love the very narrow Ties! And very narrow lapels on Zappa’s jacket. I had a “Nehru” jacket about that time frame.
    Side note: Many years ago, in a Denver Theater, my Wife and I attended Zazz concerts. They had a Double Wurlitzer Organ, it came up from a well in front of the stage. One night Steve Allen played them. Saw him rising from the floor, playing them. Just wonderful and amazing.

    Heavy rains here, since last night maybe 2+ inches. But no tornadoes like further East into NE.

  2. The DOJ is clearly too big for their britches and job One for Trump 2.0 is firing everybody. EVERYBODY!

  3. Random observation: we are in CT visiting family. Flying from Jax to Hartford with change in BWI, (Southwest ) I started roughly counting how many people are still wearing masks. Turns out its around 5%.

    I just can’t get over this mental phenomenon. Covid really did a brain screw up on some people.

  4. So, speaking of style, A.I. and inevitably DEI, have a look at this newish phenomenon ( there are many more).

    It is content creators producing anachronistic or merely throwback “movie trailers” using more recent themes.

    The reviews, or responses are hugely positive and enthusiastic. Commenters say they ” love!” them.

    Viewers say they love the scenery, they enjoy looking at the urban environments, they note the masculinity of the males and the good looks ( there I differ somewhat seeing them as underdeveloped as adult women to some degree) of the 1950’s females..

    So you know why commenters think the product looks ” so cool”. You know how it is produced.

    The inevitably coming DEI critique, mockery and scorn, you can figure out for yourself.

    In the meantime : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H4Ydh78NaQI

    By the way, just to note. I have zero interest in superhero fiction of any sort, or science fantasy as opposed to hard scifi for that matter. But the videos are indeed ” cool”

    The Super Mario one ( no personal interest in video gaming either) is popular

  5. mob

    a large, angry crowd, especially one that could easily become violent

    A mob of 300-600 people can form within minutes. Mobs have absolutely nothing to do with protesting—they are about threatening > intimidating > stealing > and violence.

    Am a firm believer that all mobs should be shut down by any and all means available – including Kenting

    Protests

    A protest (also called a demonstration, remonstration, or remonstrance) is a public expression of objection, disapproval, or dissent towards an idea or action, typically a political one.

    Am fine with protests that do not interfere with other people’s rights to ‘Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness’. Blocking traffic as a means of protesting should be a Capital Crime (or at least a 20 year prison sentence for queasy DEMs & REPs supporters).

    Protesting? Stay out of my way, space, and FACE! I should be able to seriously injure anyone (females included, i.e., equal rights ‘n such) who gets into my FACE. Get a mirror if you want to get into someone’s FACE, and protest, spew spit, spew germs, spew foul breath, and loud shouting all you want to.

    Civil disobedience

    Civil disobedience is the active, professed refusal of a citizen to obey certain laws, demands, orders or commands of a government (or any other authority). By some definitions, civil disobedience has to be nonviolent to be called “civil”. Hence, civil disobedience is sometimes equated with peaceful protests or nonviolent resistance.

    Nonviolent resistance

    Nonviolent resistance, or nonviolent action, sometimes called civil resistance, is the practice of achieving goals such as social change through symbolic protests, civil disobedience, economic or political noncooperation, satyagraha, constructive program, or other methods, while refraining from violence and the threat of violence.

    You a protester? Wanna learn how to protest w/o interfering with other people’s rights to ‘Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness’? Study these men then:

    Mahatma Gandhi

    Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi was an Indian lawyer, anti-colonial nationalist and political ethicist who employed nonviolent resistance to lead the successful campaign for India’s independence from British rule. He inspired movements for civil rights and freedom across the world. The honorific Mah?tm? (from Sanskrit ‘great-souled, venerable’), first applied to him in South Africa in 1914, is now used throughout the world.

    Martin Luther King Jr.

    In March 1955, Claudette Colvin—a fifteen-year-old black schoolgirl in Montgomery—refused to give up her bus seat to a white man in violation of Jim Crow laws, local laws in the Southern United States that enforced racial segregation. Nine months later on December 1, 1955, Rosa Parks was arrested for refusing to give up her seat on a city bus.

  6. Phyicsguy, I am wearing a mask while in stores and other places with a lot of people. I am doing it because my Wife’s Cancer Doc warned about bringing something home to my Wife. Do not need an infection in the house. So, there may be good reasons for some to still be wearing a mask. Painting people with broad strokes makes a mess

  7. Looks like Kristi Noem just ended her political career. What a stupid woman.

  8. Shirehome,

    I understand, but why didn’t the doctors make the same warning in the same situation pre-covid?

  9. Chases Eagles:

    You are referring, I guess, to her shooting one of her dogs and one of her goats?

    Yes, suburban and urban Karens would never vote for her now. Like Mitt Romney’s dog on the roof of the car? Or women in binders? (sarc)

    Next thing that will happen is South Dakota voters deciding that such a “stupid woman” isn’t fit to be their governor? (sarc x 11)

    I note that FJB keeps a dog in the White House that has bitten Secret Service Agents. That’s a wise man. (sarc)

  10. physicsguy:

    Masking while in public was recommended for people with cancer and especially undergoing cancer treatment even prior to COVID. See this from 2018, for example. And here’s a site that google also says is from 2018 (although I don’t see a date on the page) that mentions masking in crowds, etc., for those who care for cancer patients.

  11. Neo,

    Ok, my bad. But I still think the percentage of masking is much higher now than pre- covid.

  12. I support the rejoinder of SHIREHOME (1:26 pm), replying to physicsguy (11:24 am).

    My wife recently returned from a trip, on which she was very concerned about bringing heavens-knows-what home to me, an organ transplant recipient, and one feature/bug of organ transplanting is a seriously compromised immune system. She donned a mask in airports, in airplanes, in fact in crowds generally (at home, we have avoided crowds at virtually all costs, ever since Transplant Day).

    [For what it’s worth, neither of us has been privileged, so far, to contract covid. We got Moderna-jabbed twice plus one booster, after which we decided that risks looked to be outweighing benefits, the way things had been going. In retrospect, I am (1) fortunate in not having had any bad side effects of the jab, which many others have experienced, while being (2) also okay with the jab lessening the severities of covid symptoms — which we never contracted. That (3) the jab very evidently prevents neither covid nor its transmission to others is a subject for other discussions.]

    [UPDATE] And I see that neo and physicsguy have just very recently commented on this sub-thread as well. neo’s point is well-taken, and I certainly agree that “the percentage of masking is much higher now than pre-covid.”

  13. physicsguy:

    Agreed that masking is more prevalent now, but that’s for many reasons. One of them is that people grew very very accustomed to it and therefore are more inclined to don a mask – let’s say because a close relative is being treated for cancer – than they were before. It’s not an alien thing to anyone, plus we all have surplus masks leftover at home so it doesn’t require an extra purchase.

    Therefore people are more likely to do it for any number of reasons, and some sort of unnatural fear is only one of them. Some people do indeed use them as a security blanket. Then again, while traveling, one is often exposed to many people up close and personal, and some of them are sick. Even catching a regular cold can be quite miserable on a vacation. And some people wear them because they already have colds and think masks protect others from catching it.

  14. om, why on earth share this story?

    1) Who takes an untrained dog on a hunt?

    2) She claims the dog was untrainable. Ok who tried and what were their qualifications? My late neighbor got three new hunting dogs over the ten years I knew him. Each one was sent to a professional trainer. If the dog was untrainable then send her to a new home.

    3) She claims the dog escaped the vehicle and attacked livestock. That is totally on Noem. None of my dogs ever escaped the vehicle and attacked anything.

    4) She said, “I hated that dog” and killed it herself. Sounds like rage.

    Dogs attacking livestock can be killed. My brother-in-law had to kill his neighbor’s three dogs when they attacked my sister’s sheep. It was awful. He had to use his backhoe to take the dogs up the road while the Deputy Sheriff kept the owner away, telling him he didn’t need to see his dogs. My sister has a Llama in with the sheep now.

    This is stupid, stupid, stupid. She should have kept this to herself.

    My Weimaraner’s favorite food is duck, yet she leaves alone the hundreds of wild ducks some not 30 feet from her because she is trained to.

    When I first moved to Seattle, I was put up on a Black Angus cattle ranch for the summer I guess to take my mind off the girl I left behind. The most unpleasant task I had was to bury a German Shepard that had been killed by the bull. It was vile.

  15. I grew up with the justice league animated series that might have been a little corny but made no qualms about good and evil a naive notion then i suppose

    It has a very stylized feel but not this hypernoir that zach snyder pumps out it worked for nolan somewhat because he has
    a sense of drama and stakes whereas zach had none of this

  16. Heres an interesting twist john logan behind gladiator and penny dreadful is going to adapt cormac mccarthys grand guignop western blood meridian

    I dont know if he has the chops for such a gritty and disturbing project

  17. Physicsguy, I can’t answer to what Doc may or may not have recommended before COVID. Not my remit. But, When my Wifes’ Doc recommends it then I will do it. End Of Story!

  18. Chases Eagles:

    Good to know that based on your life and anecdotes you are qualified to know all the pertinent details of Kristi Norm’s life with that dog and further to know her IQ.

    We are not worthy.

    You be you.

  19. What a paradox Zappa was. He was a brilliant guitarist, and a prolific and sophisticated composer and bandleader with a signature compositional style. Many of his works are quite beautiful. And yet much of his lyrical content was so juvenile.

    He never did drugs and he hated hippies.

  20. I have long loved this clip of early Zappa.

    Keep in mind that Zappa is 22, dropped out of college after one semester, making his own bizarre self-taught way into professional music, and has managed to secure a spot on national television with Steve Allen!

    My jaw drops at Z’s self-assurance. But that’s who he was and he backed it up throughout his life.

    I could have done without all the juvenile “Don’t Eat the Yellow Snow” stuff myself, but it may have been a necessary youthful self-defense that hardened into something unnecessary later.

    He was a handsome kid too.

  21. Got to throw a HEART to Steve Allen. He really tried to walk the liberal talk of the time.

  22. I read a Zappa interview where he said that he added the lyrics to his music so he “wouldn’t be working in a gas station.”

    I also saw him on the Tom Snyder show. Snyder asked “Is it true what they say about sex and drugs on the road?” Zappa said “Yes,” with a leer.

  23. I read a Zappa interview where he said that he added the lyrics to his music so he “wouldn’t be working in a gas station.”

    Dax:

    Well, I’m sure if Zappa had stuck with a strictly avant-garde approach, as was partly his wont, that would have been so.

    But make no mistake, he genuinely loved doo-wop and rock’n’roll, not to mention providing his own social commentary.

    Frank Zappa said a lot of things. One needs to hear a single claim in a broader context.

  24. I’m not a serious Zappa head, or however such a contingent might self-identify. But the man was awesome. Here’s Frank without words:

    –Frank Zappa, “Shut Up ‘n Play Yer Guitar”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvB5dQHvRSc

    Did you know he could do that? Zappa had a work ethic up there with Steve Jobs.

  25. Have an old desktop and/or laptop – w/ Win XP (0.09% market share STILL!?), Vista (0.02%), Win 98 (0.00% too few to show), Win 8 (0.16%), Win 8.1 (0.81%), and Win 7 (5.64%)? Slow & sluggish, but display & components all seem fine? Give Linux a try and bring back some snappy new life to that old PC.

    I’ve use Linux as a secondary OS, and as a companion OS to Win 11 Pro – have used it since 1996 mainly as an off & on hobby. Linus Torvalds says that Linux’s desktop problem is “fragmentation” – there are like 600+- versions of the Linux OS. He said that Android & Chrome OS were the way forward for the Linux Desktop, but they are both proprietary versions which use the Linux kernel.

    People use a lot of OSes today w/o even knowing it – various OSes are in all kinds of stuff, and Linux isn’t that difficult anymore. My favorite Linux Distro is actually a tie between Porteus – Cinnamon DE (desktop environment – everything about Linux is fragmented) & Fedora Cinnamon SPIN DE. However, for someone brand new to Linux – Ubuntu Cinnamon Flavor DE (everything about Linux is fragmented – wink!) is probably the easiest place to start. BTW, the Cinnamon DE is a close ‘Feel‘ to the Windows desktop.

    Here are some of my links to installing Fedora & Porteus.

    Ubuntu is probably the most covered Linux OS for internet search help. The Install Ubuntu desktop guide looks accurate after a quick glance. You’re mainly downloading an image > creating a bootable USB from that image using their recommendation of balenaEtcher > then installing it. I don’t recommend installing Linux alongside Windows of your main computer, so for a newbie an old PC is best, IMHO.

    Ubuntu & Fedora probably have the biggest selection of hardware drivers available for such things as printers, etc. Still, drivers are limited compared to Windows Plug & Play.

  26. Open Thread Sunday – Russian war on Ukraine:

    New American Military Aid for Ukraine – What’s in the package and what impact will it have? – Perun

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc436PwqeqM

    00:00:00 — Opening Words
    00:00:57 — What Am I Talking About?
    00:01:40 — The 23/24 Delay
    00:08:28 — What’s In The Package
    00:26:09 — Aid And The Usa
    00:27:54 — What Aid Will Do
    00:30:58 — Working The Ammo Example
    00:41:08 — The Valley Of Death
    00:48:11 — Economic Sustainability
    00:58:08 — The 24/25 Dynamic
    01:03:21 — Channel Update

  27. Gallup Poll: Biden Worst President in Polling History

    Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump calls President Joe Biden the “worst president in history,” and now there is new polling data to back that up.

    Beating out Jimmy “The Mullah” Carter had to border on the impossible…

    CNN Poll: Trump Leads by 9 as U.S. Views Biden as a ‘Failure’

    Americans are coming to the realization the presidencies of Donald Trump and Joe Biden stand in a stark contrast and now see Trump as the better way forward, results from a shock CNN poll show Sunday.

    Did Trump’s silence during Johnson’s aid bill for Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan gain him some points? Did for me…

  28. ‘They will take it back!’ China ‘readying land grab’ on Russia as Xi turns on Putin

    China is waiting for the Russian Federation to collapse so it can seize a slice of land taken from it by Russia 200 years ago, it has been claimed.

    Beijing has been a crucial supporter of Vladimir Putin since he invaded Ukraine and was essentially cut off from the Western world due to sanctions.

    But Canadian journalist and author Diane Francis believes that China is also preparing to take back a slice of land in the far east of Russia.

    Had been wondering when ‘n if this might ever happen.

  29. The Epoch Times has a novice overview of Thursday’s oral arguments in the Trump Presidential case. The theme is What knock affects does a ruling in this matter have for every other office holder?

    Here’s the key graphs:

    Justice Kavanaugh said that when presidents are subject to prosecution, history shows that it’s not going to stop.

    “It’s going to cycle back and be used against the current president or the next president … and the next president and the next president after that.”

    Justice Neil Gorsuch, who said that the court is “writing a rule for the ages,” along with Justice Samuel Alito and Justice Kavanaugh all said that their concern was not so much the case against President Trump, but rather the effect of the ruling on future presidencies.

    “This case has huge implications for the presidency, for the future of the presidency, for the future of the country,” Justice Kavanaugh said.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/justice-kavanaugh-warns-vicious-cycle-malicious-prosecutions-could-end-presidency

    ==========

    Well, no Shyte Sherlock’s.

  30. Open Thread Sunday: Russian war on Ukraine:

    What will Russia do when Ukraine gets more weapons? – Anders Puck Nielsen

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W8tio3Ougw

    0:00 What will happen now?
    0:20 The scenarios for 2024
    1:59 No Ukrainian offensive
    4:04 Russian summer offensive
    4:50 Ukrainian weaknesses
    6:29 Russia’s war aims
    8:44 How Russia plays the long game
    9:48 Getting control over Ukraine
    10:22 Strategic bombings

    Regarding strategic bombing, Anders postulates that if Russia can’t make Ukraine into a vassal toady state (i.e. Belarus II) then the goal is to bomb Ukraine back into a serf state, bomb them back into the stone age. They will destroy the country to “save it.”

  31. om, Nielsen makes my point about the future difficulty Ukraine is going to have regaining lost territory.
    Last year’s offensive was poorly executed– and Ukraine has to overcome two obstacles– sufficient manpower strength to lose a significant number of troops and continue advancing and sufficient armament of equipment.

    People talk about 2025, but it might be 2026 or waiting until Russia’s economy can no longer sustain the amount of military spending (30-40% of their economy). I had read that India had reduced buying Russian oil, but when looking at the number closer, the analyst was comparing the 2022, 2023 and 2024 numbers to a baseline of 2021– which could be inaccurate, since coming out of COVID 2021 wouldn’t be a good metric to use.

    As to Russia bombing energy infrastructure in western Ukraine I think that’s more a reaction to Ukraine’s increased targeting of energy/oil targets in Russia.

    As long as Western countries are going to prop up Ukraine’s government, many western Ukrainians haven’t felt the war as those in the east have. In a sense, Ukraine’s best hope is Russia’s economy crippled through the sanctions or damaging one of their major sources of cash– oil.

    At this point, Ukraine isn’t in any bargaining position to seek a cease fire, and they are already a failed state– pointed out by Orban recently and even Zelensky’s admission that Ukraine would lose if we didn’t send the $60 billion– of which $13 billion was for purchases of armament and $8 billion was to fund Ukraine’s government pensions.

    And if the war becomes who blinks first with long range missile attacks on energy infrastructure, Russia probably still wins, since with their increased use of glide bombs, more of their missiles can be directed at targets in western and southern Ukraine, and we still have a limit on how many we can/will send Ukraine.

    If Ukraine attacks Russia’s oil facilities with the new shipment of long range missiles (which the Biden administration has advised against), in the hopes of drying up that source of revenue for Russia and has the effect of driving up the global price of oil– I would say go for it. Maybe Ukraine can help us defeat Biden.

  32. Always making excuses for Russia treating all of Ukraine as a free fire zone.

    Russia does it because they can and don’t care what they destroy.

    Did you miss that part of the analysis where Russia would be content with Ukraine as a failed state?

    As to what Ukraine can do in 2024 and going forward, well that depends in part on what further help Russia gets from the isolationists. The 6 month pause in ordnance served Vlad quite nicely. Did it make you proud?

  33. Brain E:

    Glide bombs are, wait for it, dropped from airplanes. When isolationists shut off reloads for SAM systems guess what happens? Golly gee, Russian glide bombs become quite viable. Will SAM reloads, entire SAM systems, or F16s, or Gripens change that glide bomb effectiveness going forward?

    Will long range ATACMS derail Vlad’s scheme?

    Time will tell.

    Isolationists assisted in the fall of Avdivhka where Russia after many years brought 2000 lb glide bombs onto the Ukrainian positions at the coke plant. Cut off the ordnance for the glory of the motherland!

  34. Brain E:

    Why don’t you cite Vlad directly regarding Ukraine being a failed state instead of leaning on his little man in NATO, Orban? Not that Vlad has anything to do with the state of Ukraine since 2008, 2014, 2022-2024, you know actively trying to dismember and destroy it as a nation? Or Vlad claiming that Ukraine actually isn’t a nation at all. Is that your position now? Don’t be shy.

    “Realists” and isolationists are something indeed.

  35. Brian E:
    Maybe Ukraine can help us defeat Biden.

    Although your suggested scenario would be unhealthy for the world, nothing but nothing is as bad as having Team Joe in power. I don’t root for the calamities and inflation eroding our quality of life, but Team Joe is aggressively pursuing them anyway. It’s as if (as Joe said in 2020) they don’t need our votes. In case they don’t get 4 more years, they are inflicting maximum destruction now in every way they can.

    Lord help us.

  36. Watching that video it’s easy to see why everyone in the 60’s assumed Frank was raging on psychedelics. He didn’t need them!
    Truly a unique, original genius and great guitarist. Were he still alive I’m sure he’d be leading the charge against woke cancel culture and censorship.

  37. More later once I’ve watched the videos posted above, but I wanted to comment on this:

    ”…Russia probably still wins, since with their increased use of glide bombs, more of their missiles can be directed at targets in western and southern Ukraine, and we still have a limit on how many we can/will send Ukraine.”

    If it comes down to a contest of glide bombs, Ukraine wins. We can build 50,000 JDAMs a year and have a stockpile of half a million of them. Russia has just about maxed out the domestic materiel they can send to Ukraine. The West has a looooong way to go in that regard.

  38. Don’t care for Zappa retrospectively. Vociferous atheists are tiresome. By some accounts, he was cold and contemptuous to his employees. And why would you name your children ‘Moon Unit’ and ‘Dweezil’?
    ==
    As for his music, he could be amusing on occasion. (“I’m here to talk about an important social problem in America, and it’s called “Disco”).

  39. mkent:

    Brain E presents the isolationist position again, here regarding unrestricted Russian attack on Ukraine; Russia can attack with whatever means and Ukrainuan ordnance will be hobbled until Russia wins. Reasons.

  40. mkent, at the beginning of the war the US contracted with Boeing to make an adapter to use our JDAMS on Ukraine’s MIG-29s. I never heard or saw anything since about that.

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