Lived in England between 8-11 years old. Dad was in the Army (retired E-9 Infantry w/ 3 CIB’s) and sent us to England’s public schools. We never lived on a military base & it seems he didn’t care for the US military’s schools either. Don’t recall ever having a problem understanding other students or the teachers (or they me) – who knows, maybe I went to school w/ a student who became a famous musician. 🙂 There was one harsh female teacher who seemed to have trouble understanding me or else she just didn’t like me. She was a master with the cane, and I hated her class—she constantly called to the front of the class to demonstrate how fast & accurate she was w/ that cane, and even tho I was the fastest student in the school at running, her cane always reached my humble finger tips before I could snatch my hand back. My dad’s belt across my buttocks was never as painful as that cane across my finger tips!? Great times over there…and Neo does come up with some great videos, huh!
Every hear of The Library of Halexandria? It may be the oldest bookmark I have. It covers a lot of stuff – from The Tree of Life > to sons of God & daughters of men > Nephilim & mighty men of old > to Extraterrestrial Life > Space Law > Connective Physics > to Chronicles of Earth & Annals of Earth > Sacred Mathematics > to Who’s on First > to Vaccines > etc. and beyond. Has been a handy research site over the years…
Somehow the bridge collapse is Trump’s fault.
The ship’s lighting went down and come up just before the collision. I wonder if they were desperately attempting to reboot the ship’s control systems by cutting power and having the emergency generator act as a restart? If so it was obviously too little and way too late. I imagine it would take a huge amount of seaway for a ship that gargantuan to slow or turn.
The ship sent out a mayday and workers on the bridge were able to stop more traffic from entering. Still, six construction workers are missing, and at least five cars are in the water.
The Sunshine Skyway bridge collapse in Florida in 1980, also caused by a ship collision, resulted in 35 deaths. No telling how many vehicles, and how many people, went into the water in this case.
according to barrons the boat did a similar thing on it’s maiden vovage in 2016, in the Belgian port,
A small number of unlucky 2nd shifters heading home. I hate to say it, but I suppose it was a good thing it happened when it did, at 1:38AM in the middle of the night. Imagine if it happened during rush hour.
Nice video. I’d never heard of Kate Nash. This one, Foundations, was at the top of the youtube list:
Probably the baddest bass guitar line ever. Turns out the bass line was doubled, or repeated, in the recording. It seems the song was a near zero effort by the band to satire or riff on Nirvana’s Teen Spirit.
King also allegedly claimed that he and his husband were expecting the birth of a child by a surrogate on March 29, and that he planned to sexually assault the child after it is born. He also allegedly sent the person in New York an ultrasound image of the unborn child, and a photo of a baby outfit he and his husband got for Christmas.
“I do love the idea of inviting a buddy over when I have my boy … just has to be someone I can trust obviously,” King allegedly wrote in a message.
Gays should never be allowed around children. Hard to catch these b**tards in the act w/ Democratic party and their MSM puppets protecting them.
I think I noticed that with mr mister, when they did an interview,
With reference to my earlier post on another thread, about the fruits of the deinstitutionalization of the mentally ill movement of a few decades ago, and our personal safety today.*
The shipping channel could be opened to allow traffic to restart. This would mean removal of the downed bridge sections, the ship, and containers that fell into the channel. A contract with a early completion clause will speed it up.
Reconstruction of the bridge will take longer, but then they could plan for the channel closures, such as getting the ships out of the port, going to scheduled one-way traffic. I hope they plan for having better protection of the pylons.
Plausible deniability is a CIA specialty – always has been. See also Nord Stream 2022, and our 100% immune from prosecution CIC. A non compos mentis president is a CIA wet dream come true.
The CIA cannot be the only deep state agency taking advantage, but they are the central one, testing and expanding operational parameters from day one.
Banned Lizard, of course the FSB says we’re responsible. This isn’t a credible charge. Even though ISIS has seemingly claimed responsibility, there are some odd things about this which make me think the Putin regime itself might have been involved.
A structural engineer experienced with the rebuilt Sunshine Skyway in Tampa Bay says that there are redundant structures to prevent ships from hitting the actual bridge pylons, and suggests that the Francis Scott Key bridge lacked this redundancy.
As a reminder, JFK said he wanted to “splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter It to the winds.”
The rest is history to the present day.
CIA motives are transparent. Their assets give them practically universal opportunity. Motive and opportunity – JFK was correct.
Re- FSB Blaming US, UK and Ukraine for terrorist attack – My response would be: Why exactly? What benefit would the US and UK gain from such an attack?
As for Ukraine, it’s perhaps not as unlikely that they’d do something like that for simple revenge I suppose. But it seems to me they’d admit it if they were indeed behind it. But who knows?
I seem to recall “The Clash” sounding very British when they sang.
And “Herman’s Hermits.”
And of course that Bert character in Disney’s, “Mary Poppins.” 🙂
Going the other way, I remember some 90s Southern California pop punk bands like Rancid and Greenday would occasionally adopt a vaguely sort of faux British accent when they sang.
Liz – it is going to be a while before Baltimore harbor reopens. Not only does the bridge superstructure have to be removed from the channel, but so does the bridge deck (roadway). The channel there is shallow enough that the bridge deck cannot be left on the bottom.
“A small number of unlucky 2nd shifters heading home. ”
Maybe, maybe not. There was a construction crew working on the bridge when it collapsed, and the missing are part of the crew. The crew closed the bridge to motorist traffic when the ship issued it’s mayday. So there’s a chance that no motorists got caught up in it.
You can see the flashing lights of the stationary work vehicles and the last couple of moving vehicles clear the bridge right before the collapse.
As a reminder, JFK said he wanted to “splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter It to the winds.”
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When and where did he say that?
== CIA motives are transparent.
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The route of the motorcade was decided upon just days beforehand. So, is it your contention that the CIA had sleeper agents planted along every likely route from the airport to the site at which the president was to speak? Quite a challenge to get all of them in place on such short notice. (Oswald had been hired by the School Book Depository about six weeks earlier, btw).
Re: Accents
The video lost me pretty quick. It sure seems to me that performers often tune their accents, understandably, for audience appeal — not the vagaries of fitting one’s voice into a pop song.
Though not always. I could sure hear the British accents of the Beatles, the Stones and even Rod Stewart.
Then there’s “Don’t You Forget About Me” the theme song to “The Breakfast Club,” which sounded American. But when I heard the Simple Minds lead singer on NPR I discovered he had a hard Glaswegian accent. He sang as he did for commercial purposes.
It goes both ways. People tend to forget the so-called Transatlantic accent, a semi-British accent Americans adopted in the 20th C to sound more statusy. Think the Kennedys.
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The Mid-Atlantic accent, or Transatlantic accent, is a consciously learned accent of English, associated with the American upper class and entertainment industry of the late 19th century and mid-20th century, that blended together features from both American and British English (specifically Received Pronunciation). It is not a native or regional accent; rather, according to voice and drama professor Dudley Knight, “its earliest advocates bragged that its chief quality was that no Americans actually spoke it unless educated to do so”. The accent was embraced in private independent American preparatory schools, especially by members of the Northeastern upper class, as well as in schools for film, radio, and stage acting, with its overall use sharply declining in the decades after the Second World War.
He’s not saying the loss of accent is inevitable. He said some keep it, but it ordinarily requires some extra effort to do so rather than extra effort to ditch it. He’s saying the loss of the accent is the path of least resistance because of certain technical requirements of singing.
The Bee Gees sounded very British in their 1960s iteration and far less British during the disco era, which I assume was a conscious choice.
Reporter: Why do you talk like Englishmen and sing like Americans?
Beatles: It sells better that way.
neo:
I didn’t say the loss of accent was inevitable. I agree it’s a choice. I’m skeptical that the format of a pop song is as big a factor as claimed to a loss of accent. I question that format reduces to the default of an American accent.
I emphasize that commercial appeal is a big factor in whatever commercial performers choose to do.
I didn’t say you said it was inevitable. You obviously said the opposite of that. I was explaining that HE didn’t say it was inevitable – he said it was a choice, but the American accent was an easier way to sing that requires less effort even for most British singers.
Of course singers make choices about it.
BJ:
I never perceived the Beatles as singing like Americans. It seems to me their (Liverpool) accents were always noticeable – extremely noticeable, actually.
neo:
OK. I’m skeptical that the format of a pop song is as big a factor as claimed to a loss of accent.
I argue that an American accent generally has more commercial appeal.
Follow the money.
@huxley,
I don’t know about sounding “more statusy”, but the Mid Atlantic accent was often taught to actors, reporters, politicians, DJs, etc. anyone whose speech was often broadcast and/or recorded: the limits of early 20th century recording technology meant that words had to be articulated distinctly, and pitched to treble rather than bass, as shown here:
As recording technology improved, it could cover a wider range of sound, and the Mid Atlantic accent fell out of favor.
So now everyone knows why Maleficent in “Sleeping Beauty” has the same accent as FDR. 😉
Nonapod,
For years I thought the lead singer of “Greenday” was British.
BJ:
I’ll take your point and stick with status. I doubt the Transatlantic accent fell out of favor because of technology as much as the post-war decline of British power and the ascendancy of American.
Tom Wolfe invented the term “statusphere” to underline how much people are motivated by status.
I agree.
We certainly see it working that way today with DEI largely empowered by its dominance in Ivy League schools and into the C-suites, media and Hollywood.
@Banned Lizard
Russian FSB says US, UK and Ukraine behind Moscow attack
My my. Putin’s pet KGB says what Putin says he wants to do. Because it’s not like the “Organs” of Russia have ever, ever been known to lie, and do not in fact have an even worse track record for confirmable honesty than even the CIA and SIS (which is no small feat give the likes of Brennan and Clapper, but hey).
Or that we have the FSB lineage going all the way back to the Cheka and arguably Okhrana having one of the worst track records for false flags and attacks on their own country in human history, and that’s just on what we know and can confirm and not on what we can suspect such as the apartment bombings before the Second Chechnya War.
Plausible deniability is a CIA specialty – always has been.
No, no it really is not, and no no it really ahs not. While it is hard to tell Langley’s overall track record (and there’s probably some bias in that we mostly find out about adventures that go dismally pear shaped), but the CIA has generally sucked at plausible deniability. Maybe it has gotten better at this over the past half century (when they and JFK thought that giving the Cuban freedom fighters experimental tanks would not compromise identity), but if Project Veritas and multiple third world dictatorships can trip them up they aren’t nearly that good at it.
See also Nord Stream 2022,
Which last I checked is still uncertain, though with most of the high visibility accusations that the US dunnit being false on their face vis a vis Hersh.
and our 100% immune from prosecution CIC.
At least in practice barring an impeachment. And it looks like there are at least slow walking attempts in that direction by conservatives angry at this and leftists fearful of his follies and envious for his position.
A non compos mentis president is a CIA wet dream come true.
In theory. In practice not so much, as you generally want and need a POTUS in your corner to coordinate diplomatic and economic measures. Otherwise you generally run into rocks. This is just as true in 1952 with the first failed United Fruit attempts to take out the Arbenez Dictatorship as it was today.
In any case I’m more concerned about the CIA’s capture by Islamist and/or Far Leftist actors, even more than I am for the bald sociopath in the Kremlin and his Beria knockoffs. But that doesn’t mean I’m going to forget what the hell Beria is.
The CIA cannot be the only deep state agency taking advantage, but they are the central one, testing and expanding operational parameters from day one.
Citation Needed.
Kate: See also
A Mystery Wrapped in a Riddle Inside an Enigma
JFK by Ollie Stone. Fucking JFK by Ollie Stone. Oliver Stone as in the totalitarian Far Left, Castro Shilling, Stalin Sucking, dictator loving (and Biden endorsing) Asswipe? Oliver “Da US Started Da Cold War” Stone?
Are you a MOTHERFUCKING IDIOT, Banned Lizard?
Apparently so, if you are unironically citing this load of propagandistic crap as if it
I admit my expertise is mostly prior to JFK’s murder, but what I know of the time after that is more than enough to cast heavy condemnation on his retelling, and others like Bugliosi have quite literally made their career ripping his lies apart regarding JFK.
I’m not even going to touch on his closeness to Vladimir Vladimirovich, because I frankly view that as one of his lesser issues.
As a reminder, JFK said he wanted to “splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter It to the winds.”
As a reminder, we literally do not know that.
We in fact have absolutely zero reason whatsoever to believe he said that.
The only source for that quote was – wait for it – an “anonymous source” for a New York Times article in 1966. The same New York Times that -as Neo would go on to show – lied serially and greatly about things like the Pentagon Papers.
If we flipped the dates and had this published today about Trump, we would all roll our eyes at what is almost certainly an obvious goddamn lie, and which even on the off chance it WASN’T a lie had absolutely no way to falsify or verify it. But apparently when it’s from 1966 and it supports a narrative you are in favor of, you are quick to jump on it with both hands?
And that’s before I get into how if anything relations between JFK and the CIA actually improved after the alleged quote, in part because JFK realized (to his credit) how utterly he had fucked up Playa Giron and while never a puppet of the CIA or entirely on good terms with them increasingly conferred with them and stopped trusting from within his own incestuous circle.
The rest is history to the present day.
You mean like the absolute horseshit Oliver Stone peddled about how Stalin oh so loved peace? That’s not history. That’s Neo-Communist propaganda. The fact that it isn’t fond of the CIA and I’m not fond of the CIA doesn’t change that fact, and I’m no more about to embrace it beyond what I think is rationally and factually valid than I am to start endorsing IS just because they fight a lot of people and factions I despise.
Oliver Stone was so incompetent and dishonest he literally morphed physics and contradicted the archival footage in order to establish the bullshit myth of the Magic Bullet. He also is so supremely biased and dishonest he ignored the archival evidence we have from the Soviet Union about Stalin planning (in true Leninist fashion) a Third World War prior to his death.
The modern day Kremlin’s embrace of him and vice versa is more than enough evidence to underline that the former is not your friend, it probably isn’t even going to be your enemy’s enemy. In case alliance with Literally Mullahcratic Iran wasn’t enough.
And its willingness to lie through its teeth in rather stupid fashion about non-existent storms sinking the Moskva and where those Little Green Men came from should underline that any politically charged pronunciations from it should be distrusted AT LEAST AS MUCH as any to come out of our own Deep State.
CIA motives are transparent.
Literally why would the CIA give authorization to a strategically null terror operation that would do little but allow Putin to further militarize Russian society and possibly DECLARE WAR on Ukraine, the US, NATO, or a mixture of the above? Far be it for me to defend the honor and competence of Langley, especially in Current Year, but that doesn’t fit their MO.
ESPECIALLY when their main focus is on us, the deplorables.
Their assets give them practically universal opportunity.
As does IS’s.
Motive and opportunity –
Cute. Now apply that same paradigm to the FSB and Putin himself. If Motive and Opportunity were enough to secure a conviction, we’d probably have to convict the British for Pearl Harbor.
JFK was correct.
Unlikely. Especially since JFK was more incorrect than correct.
Or are you referring to the dogshit Oliver Stone pack of lies? The one that uncritically used Communist propaganda and botched the seat diagram in order to peddle the Magic Bullet stuff? Then that’s even worse, since JFK at least got things that were not self-evident right FROM TIME TO TIME. JFK the movie does not even do that, and even when it does capture the reality it routinely lies about it (such as ignoring LBJ’s dovish posturing in his attempts to con both sides of the Hawk/Dove isle and be all things to all people at all times).
I’m not going quite so quickly to follow the consensus from ISW and others that it was ISIS-K (in spite of this fitting more of IS’s MO than it is us and… uh….them admitting to it), because as others have pointed out IS has not been above claiming credit for attacks that probably weren’t theirs, like the Las Vegas shooting. But I certainly find them little less credible than Vladimir Putin and the rebranded KGB.
@huxley,
Well, let’s just say it’s six of one and half a dozen of the other.
Turtler,
I enjoyed your 8:26 post and its style. You usually lose me with your very long posts in which I have no inkling of many of the historic events you refer to.
In case you missed an earlier post of mine, I would be interested if you cared to post anything about turtles.
Carol Roth discovers President Biden is including UNSOLD STOCK as “income” when he states the wealthiest Americans only pay an 8% average tax rate!!
Also, yesterday Ace had a piece about another bizarre lie Biden has been telling for years about his reason for leaving private law. https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=408951
Joe Biden has been a complete midwit his entire life and oddly co-opts other people’s biographies onto his in a bizarre attempt to pad his utterly mediocre resume.
Well, his resume now has President and Vice President on it, so I guess it works as long as the media never checks anything you say.
@ Rufus > “Joe Biden has been a complete midwit his entire life and oddly co-opts other people’s biographies onto his in a bizarre attempt to pad his utterly mediocre resume.
Well, his resume now has President and Vice President on it, so I guess it works as long as the media never checks anything you say.”
I would say, rather, that “the media never criticizes anything you say” —
Either way, it is an accurate description of the Democrat-Media Complex: he lies, they don’t care — he’s a useful idiot for the Party (not even a midwit).
This article bluntly reviews the Kinnock scandal, describes other instances from university and later, and doesn’t make any real attempt to refute them, but treats them as of no serious consequence, morally or practically.
More than three decades later, those events are back in the spotlight for the former vice president, who is one of the most visible Democrats in a crowded field vying to run against President Trump. Biden’s campaign on Tuesday acknowledged that it had lifted phrases, without attribution, from various nonprofit publications in its climate and education plans.
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Ted Kaufman, who was Biden’s chief of staff in 1987, called the events from that campaign “ancient history” and said they are irrelevant to Biden’s current bid. Biden and his advisers maintain that the allegations of plagiarism and false statements were overblown — and that Biden dropped out of the race in part because he wanted to focus on other matters. As chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Biden was in the middle of a fight over Robert Bork, a Supreme Court nominee whose controversial conservative views alarmed civil rights activists.
“Look at his incredible record of truth telling since then,” said Kaufman,”
Amazing that the Washington Post could bring up all the instances of Biden’s plagiarism and other problems, any ONE of which should have gotten him booted, then pretend that there wasn’t really any pattern of malfeasance, concluding with this:
Kinnock recently told the Washington Examiner he supported Biden’s current bid for president, calling Biden a candidate with “proven ability, experience, sense of mature judgment on the issues” and “only mundane imperfections.”
Frank Fahey — the voter Biden angrily spoke to in Claremont — has said he regrets any role the conversation may have played in prompting Biden to drop out of the race. “I didn’t hold that against him at all,” Fahey said in an interview, adding that Biden apologized to him years later.
Fahey, a retired public schoolteacher, said he is supporting Biden above all the other candidates today. “He’s got a level head. And he’s a person who’s had lots of growth as an individual,” he said. “There’s not one of us that doesn’t do things that we shouldn’t do.”
Yes, AI is energy-intensive. Surprise, surprise. It cost $400 mil in energy to train ChatGPT-4. For ChatGPT-4 to generate a single image, it requires the same amount of energy as to charge a cellphone.
Much of AI’s rapid (mind-bogglingly) improvement comes simply from scaling up AI in terms of hardware — 10x or more each year.
Things are not slowing down. We are witnessing the fastest take-off a new technology in history.
Which means that AI energy costs are increasing exponentially too.
The good news at least is that these rising energy costs will require a massive increase of energy generation, which renewables can’t possibly supply. It’s going to have to be fossil fuels and nukes. The Net Zero illusion must die.
Brown outs for AI generated pornography? After all, that’s where the money is. Will society choose wisely?
“Not Sure” asks (ht Idiocracy)?
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Terrible destruction in Baltimore. Sal is on the case at What’s Going On With Shipping: https://youtu.be/qZbUXewlQDk?si=bBAOBRY5YbPP4ULD
Overhead video of the aftermath: https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1772609699432857909?t=ljviraAZ-kyFQRoMain0Fw&s=19
Wow!
Lived in England between 8-11 years old. Dad was in the Army (retired E-9 Infantry w/ 3 CIB’s) and sent us to England’s public schools. We never lived on a military base & it seems he didn’t care for the US military’s schools either. Don’t recall ever having a problem understanding other students or the teachers (or they me) – who knows, maybe I went to school w/ a student who became a famous musician. 🙂 There was one harsh female teacher who seemed to have trouble understanding me or else she just didn’t like me. She was a master with the cane, and I hated her class—she constantly called to the front of the class to demonstrate how fast & accurate she was w/ that cane, and even tho I was the fastest student in the school at running, her cane always reached my humble finger tips before I could snatch my hand back. My dad’s belt across my buttocks was never as painful as that cane across my finger tips!? Great times over there…and Neo does come up with some great videos, huh!
Every hear of The Library of Halexandria? It may be the oldest bookmark I have. It covers a lot of stuff – from The Tree of Life > to sons of God & daughters of men > Nephilim & mighty men of old > to Extraterrestrial Life > Space Law > Connective Physics > to Chronicles of Earth & Annals of Earth > Sacred Mathematics > to Who’s on First > to Vaccines > etc. and beyond. Has been a handy research site over the years…
Somehow the bridge collapse is Trump’s fault.
The ship’s lighting went down and come up just before the collision. I wonder if they were desperately attempting to reboot the ship’s control systems by cutting power and having the emergency generator act as a restart? If so it was obviously too little and way too late. I imagine it would take a huge amount of seaway for a ship that gargantuan to slow or turn.
Sal updates with more information, ship track, etc.: https://youtu.be/N39w6aQFKSQ?si=Nw4z6JtXJqy5Uj2I
The ship sent out a mayday and workers on the bridge were able to stop more traffic from entering. Still, six construction workers are missing, and at least five cars are in the water.
The Sunshine Skyway bridge collapse in Florida in 1980, also caused by a ship collision, resulted in 35 deaths. No telling how many vehicles, and how many people, went into the water in this case.
according to barrons the boat did a similar thing on it’s maiden vovage in 2016, in the Belgian port,
A small number of unlucky 2nd shifters heading home. I hate to say it, but I suppose it was a good thing it happened when it did, at 1:38AM in the middle of the night. Imagine if it happened during rush hour.
Nice video. I’d never heard of Kate Nash. This one, Foundations, was at the top of the youtube list:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryH5cga0yUI
Definitely a feminine take on relationships. This line slightly surprised, and amused me:
“But it gives me thrills to wind you up”
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The first song with a strong Brit accent that came to my mind was “Song 2” by Blur. Very brash and outre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSbBvKaM6sk
Probably the baddest bass guitar line ever. Turns out the bass line was doubled, or repeated, in the recording. It seems the song was a near zero effort by the band to satire or riff on Nirvana’s Teen Spirit.
Talk about Child Grooming!?!?!!!
Chicago veterinarian, dog show judge charged with child porn; FBI says he boasted of drugging and abusing multiple kids
Gays should never be allowed around children. Hard to catch these b**tards in the act w/ Democratic party and their MSM puppets protecting them.
I think I noticed that with mr mister, when they did an interview,
With reference to my earlier post on another thread, about the fruits of the deinstitutionalization of the mentally ill movement of a few decades ago, and our personal safety today.*
* See https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/subway-pusher-arrested-shoving-victim-his-death-has/
The other thing about the bridge collapse, besides lives lost, is that the whole Baltimore harbor will be closed for quite a long time.
@huxley: Use of ChatGPT linked to memory loss. 🙂
https://www.psypost.org/chatgpt-linked-to-declining-academic-performance-and-memory-loss-in-new-study/
huxley forgot to check in today.
The shipping channel could be opened to allow traffic to restart. This would mean removal of the downed bridge sections, the ship, and containers that fell into the channel. A contract with a early completion clause will speed it up.
Reconstruction of the bridge will take longer, but then they could plan for the channel closures, such as getting the ships out of the port, going to scheduled one-way traffic. I hope they plan for having better protection of the pylons.
Russian FSB says US, UK and Ukraine behind Moscow attack
Plausible deniability is a CIA specialty – always has been. See also Nord Stream 2022, and our 100% immune from prosecution CIC. A non compos mentis president is a CIA wet dream come true.
The CIA cannot be the only deep state agency taking advantage, but they are the central one, testing and expanding operational parameters from day one.
Banned Lizard, of course the FSB says we’re responsible. This isn’t a credible charge. Even though ISIS has seemingly claimed responsibility, there are some odd things about this which make me think the Putin regime itself might have been involved.
A structural engineer experienced with the rebuilt Sunshine Skyway in Tampa Bay says that there are redundant structures to prevent ships from hitting the actual bridge pylons, and suggests that the Francis Scott Key bridge lacked this redundancy.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/structural-engineer-surprised-cargo-ship-able-take-baltimore-francis-scott-key-bridge
Yes he jumped the wolly mammoth
https://twitter.com/rachelbovard/status/1772618021917409319
Kate: See also
A Mystery Wrapped in a Riddle Inside an Enigma
As a reminder, JFK said he wanted to “splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter It to the winds.”
The rest is history to the present day.
CIA motives are transparent. Their assets give them practically universal opportunity. Motive and opportunity – JFK was correct.
Re- FSB Blaming US, UK and Ukraine for terrorist attack – My response would be: Why exactly? What benefit would the US and UK gain from such an attack?
As for Ukraine, it’s perhaps not as unlikely that they’d do something like that for simple revenge I suppose. But it seems to me they’d admit it if they were indeed behind it. But who knows?
I seem to recall “The Clash” sounding very British when they sang.
And “Herman’s Hermits.”
And of course that Bert character in Disney’s, “Mary Poppins.” 🙂
Going the other way, I remember some 90s Southern California pop punk bands like Rancid and Greenday would occasionally adopt a vaguely sort of faux British accent when they sang.
Liz – it is going to be a while before Baltimore harbor reopens. Not only does the bridge superstructure have to be removed from the channel, but so does the bridge deck (roadway). The channel there is shallow enough that the bridge deck cannot be left on the bottom.
“A small number of unlucky 2nd shifters heading home. ”
Maybe, maybe not. There was a construction crew working on the bridge when it collapsed, and the missing are part of the crew. The crew closed the bridge to motorist traffic when the ship issued it’s mayday. So there’s a chance that no motorists got caught up in it.
You can see the flashing lights of the stationary work vehicles and the last couple of moving vehicles clear the bridge right before the collapse.
As a reminder, JFK said he wanted to “splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter It to the winds.”
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When and where did he say that?
==
CIA motives are transparent.
==
The route of the motorcade was decided upon just days beforehand. So, is it your contention that the CIA had sleeper agents planted along every likely route from the airport to the site at which the president was to speak? Quite a challenge to get all of them in place on such short notice. (Oswald had been hired by the School Book Depository about six weeks earlier, btw).
Re: Accents
The video lost me pretty quick. It sure seems to me that performers often tune their accents, understandably, for audience appeal — not the vagaries of fitting one’s voice into a pop song.
Though not always. I could sure hear the British accents of the Beatles, the Stones and even Rod Stewart.
Then there’s “Don’t You Forget About Me” the theme song to “The Breakfast Club,” which sounded American. But when I heard the Simple Minds lead singer on NPR I discovered he had a hard Glaswegian accent. He sang as he did for commercial purposes.
It goes both ways. People tend to forget the so-called Transatlantic accent, a semi-British accent Americans adopted in the 20th C to sound more statusy. Think the Kennedys.
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The Mid-Atlantic accent, or Transatlantic accent, is a consciously learned accent of English, associated with the American upper class and entertainment industry of the late 19th century and mid-20th century, that blended together features from both American and British English (specifically Received Pronunciation). It is not a native or regional accent; rather, according to voice and drama professor Dudley Knight, “its earliest advocates bragged that its chief quality was that no Americans actually spoke it unless educated to do so”. The accent was embraced in private independent American preparatory schools, especially by members of the Northeastern upper class, as well as in schools for film, radio, and stage acting, with its overall use sharply declining in the decades after the Second World War.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Atlantic_accent
huxley:
He’s not saying the loss of accent is inevitable. He said some keep it, but it ordinarily requires some extra effort to do so rather than extra effort to ditch it. He’s saying the loss of the accent is the path of least resistance because of certain technical requirements of singing.
The Bee Gees sounded very British in their 1960s iteration and far less British during the disco era, which I assume was a conscious choice.
Reporter: Why do you talk like Englishmen and sing like Americans?
Beatles: It sells better that way.
neo:
I didn’t say the loss of accent was inevitable. I agree it’s a choice. I’m skeptical that the format of a pop song is as big a factor as claimed to a loss of accent. I question that format reduces to the default of an American accent.
I emphasize that commercial appeal is a big factor in whatever commercial performers choose to do.
–Joe Cocker, “With a Little Help from My Friends” (1968)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3LQ-FReO7Q
huxley:
I didn’t say you said it was inevitable. You obviously said the opposite of that. I was explaining that HE didn’t say it was inevitable – he said it was a choice, but the American accent was an easier way to sing that requires less effort even for most British singers.
Of course singers make choices about it.
BJ:
I never perceived the Beatles as singing like Americans. It seems to me their (Liverpool) accents were always noticeable – extremely noticeable, actually.
neo:
OK. I’m skeptical that the format of a pop song is as big a factor as claimed to a loss of accent.
I argue that an American accent generally has more commercial appeal.
Follow the money.
@huxley,
I don’t know about sounding “more statusy”, but the Mid Atlantic accent was often taught to actors, reporters, politicians, DJs, etc. anyone whose speech was often broadcast and/or recorded: the limits of early 20th century recording technology meant that words had to be articulated distinctly, and pitched to treble rather than bass, as shown here:
https://indianapublicmedia.org/amomentofscience/technology-and-the-rise-of-the-mid-atlantic-accent.php
As recording technology improved, it could cover a wider range of sound, and the Mid Atlantic accent fell out of favor.
So now everyone knows why Maleficent in “Sleeping Beauty” has the same accent as FDR. 😉
Nonapod,
For years I thought the lead singer of “Greenday” was British.
BJ:
I’ll take your point and stick with status. I doubt the Transatlantic accent fell out of favor because of technology as much as the post-war decline of British power and the ascendancy of American.
Tom Wolfe invented the term “statusphere” to underline how much people are motivated by status.
I agree.
We certainly see it working that way today with DEI largely empowered by its dominance in Ivy League schools and into the C-suites, media and Hollywood.
@Banned Lizard
My my. Putin’s pet KGB says what Putin says he wants to do. Because it’s not like the “Organs” of Russia have ever, ever been known to lie, and do not in fact have an even worse track record for confirmable honesty than even the CIA and SIS (which is no small feat give the likes of Brennan and Clapper, but hey).
Or that we have the FSB lineage going all the way back to the Cheka and arguably Okhrana having one of the worst track records for false flags and attacks on their own country in human history, and that’s just on what we know and can confirm and not on what we can suspect such as the apartment bombings before the Second Chechnya War.
No, no it really is not, and no no it really ahs not. While it is hard to tell Langley’s overall track record (and there’s probably some bias in that we mostly find out about adventures that go dismally pear shaped), but the CIA has generally sucked at plausible deniability. Maybe it has gotten better at this over the past half century (when they and JFK thought that giving the Cuban freedom fighters experimental tanks would not compromise identity), but if Project Veritas and multiple third world dictatorships can trip them up they aren’t nearly that good at it.
Which last I checked is still uncertain, though with most of the high visibility accusations that the US dunnit being false on their face vis a vis Hersh.
At least in practice barring an impeachment. And it looks like there are at least slow walking attempts in that direction by conservatives angry at this and leftists fearful of his follies and envious for his position.
In theory. In practice not so much, as you generally want and need a POTUS in your corner to coordinate diplomatic and economic measures. Otherwise you generally run into rocks. This is just as true in 1952 with the first failed United Fruit attempts to take out the Arbenez Dictatorship as it was today.
In any case I’m more concerned about the CIA’s capture by Islamist and/or Far Leftist actors, even more than I am for the bald sociopath in the Kremlin and his Beria knockoffs. But that doesn’t mean I’m going to forget what the hell Beria is.
Citation Needed.
JFK by Ollie Stone. Fucking JFK by Ollie Stone. Oliver Stone as in the totalitarian Far Left, Castro Shilling, Stalin Sucking, dictator loving (and Biden endorsing) Asswipe? Oliver “Da US Started Da Cold War” Stone?
Are you a MOTHERFUCKING IDIOT, Banned Lizard?
Apparently so, if you are unironically citing this load of propagandistic crap as if it
I admit my expertise is mostly prior to JFK’s murder, but what I know of the time after that is more than enough to cast heavy condemnation on his retelling, and others like Bugliosi have quite literally made their career ripping his lies apart regarding JFK.
I’m not even going to touch on his closeness to Vladimir Vladimirovich, because I frankly view that as one of his lesser issues.
As a reminder, we literally do not know that.
We in fact have absolutely zero reason whatsoever to believe he said that.
The only source for that quote was – wait for it – an “anonymous source” for a New York Times article in 1966. The same New York Times that -as Neo would go on to show – lied serially and greatly about things like the Pentagon Papers.
If we flipped the dates and had this published today about Trump, we would all roll our eyes at what is almost certainly an obvious goddamn lie, and which even on the off chance it WASN’T a lie had absolutely no way to falsify or verify it. But apparently when it’s from 1966 and it supports a narrative you are in favor of, you are quick to jump on it with both hands?
And that’s before I get into how if anything relations between JFK and the CIA actually improved after the alleged quote, in part because JFK realized (to his credit) how utterly he had fucked up Playa Giron and while never a puppet of the CIA or entirely on good terms with them increasingly conferred with them and stopped trusting from within his own incestuous circle.
You mean like the absolute horseshit Oliver Stone peddled about how Stalin oh so loved peace? That’s not history. That’s Neo-Communist propaganda. The fact that it isn’t fond of the CIA and I’m not fond of the CIA doesn’t change that fact, and I’m no more about to embrace it beyond what I think is rationally and factually valid than I am to start endorsing IS just because they fight a lot of people and factions I despise.
Oliver Stone was so incompetent and dishonest he literally morphed physics and contradicted the archival footage in order to establish the bullshit myth of the Magic Bullet. He also is so supremely biased and dishonest he ignored the archival evidence we have from the Soviet Union about Stalin planning (in true Leninist fashion) a Third World War prior to his death.
The modern day Kremlin’s embrace of him and vice versa is more than enough evidence to underline that the former is not your friend, it probably isn’t even going to be your enemy’s enemy. In case alliance with Literally Mullahcratic Iran wasn’t enough.
And its willingness to lie through its teeth in rather stupid fashion about non-existent storms sinking the Moskva and where those Little Green Men came from should underline that any politically charged pronunciations from it should be distrusted AT LEAST AS MUCH as any to come out of our own Deep State.
Literally why would the CIA give authorization to a strategically null terror operation that would do little but allow Putin to further militarize Russian society and possibly DECLARE WAR on Ukraine, the US, NATO, or a mixture of the above? Far be it for me to defend the honor and competence of Langley, especially in Current Year, but that doesn’t fit their MO.
ESPECIALLY when their main focus is on us, the deplorables.
As does IS’s.
Cute. Now apply that same paradigm to the FSB and Putin himself. If Motive and Opportunity were enough to secure a conviction, we’d probably have to convict the British for Pearl Harbor.
Unlikely. Especially since JFK was more incorrect than correct.
Or are you referring to the dogshit Oliver Stone pack of lies? The one that uncritically used Communist propaganda and botched the seat diagram in order to peddle the Magic Bullet stuff? Then that’s even worse, since JFK at least got things that were not self-evident right FROM TIME TO TIME. JFK the movie does not even do that, and even when it does capture the reality it routinely lies about it (such as ignoring LBJ’s dovish posturing in his attempts to con both sides of the Hawk/Dove isle and be all things to all people at all times).
I’m not going quite so quickly to follow the consensus from ISW and others that it was ISIS-K (in spite of this fitting more of IS’s MO than it is us and… uh….them admitting to it), because as others have pointed out IS has not been above claiming credit for attacks that probably weren’t theirs, like the Las Vegas shooting. But I certainly find them little less credible than Vladimir Putin and the rebranded KGB.
@huxley,
Well, let’s just say it’s six of one and half a dozen of the other.
Turtler,
I enjoyed your 8:26 post and its style. You usually lose me with your very long posts in which I have no inkling of many of the historic events you refer to.
In case you missed an earlier post of mine, I would be interested if you cared to post anything about turtles.
This is disgusting: https://twitchy.com/grateful-calvin/2024/03/26/carol-roth-thread-on-income-tax-rate-reality-versus-bidens-lies-n2394393
Carol Roth discovers President Biden is including UNSOLD STOCK as “income” when he states the wealthiest Americans only pay an 8% average tax rate!!
Also, yesterday Ace had a piece about another bizarre lie Biden has been telling for years about his reason for leaving private law. https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=408951
Joe Biden has been a complete midwit his entire life and oddly co-opts other people’s biographies onto his in a bizarre attempt to pad his utterly mediocre resume.
Well, his resume now has President and Vice President on it, so I guess it works as long as the media never checks anything you say.
@ Rufus > “Joe Biden has been a complete midwit his entire life and oddly co-opts other people’s biographies onto his in a bizarre attempt to pad his utterly mediocre resume.
Well, his resume now has President and Vice President on it, so I guess it works as long as the media never checks anything you say.”
I would say, rather, that “the media never criticizes anything you say” —
Either way, it is an accurate description of the Democrat-Media Complex: he lies, they don’t care — he’s a useful idiot for the Party (not even a midwit).
This article bluntly reviews the Kinnock scandal, describes other instances from university and later, and doesn’t make any real attempt to refute them, but treats them as of no serious consequence, morally or practically.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/echoes-of-bidens-1987-plagiarism-scandal-continue-to-reverberate/2019/06/05/dbaf3716-7292-11e9-9eb4-0828f5389013_story.html
Amazing that the Washington Post could bring up all the instances of Biden’s plagiarism and other problems, any ONE of which should have gotten him booted, then pretend that there wasn’t really any pattern of malfeasance, concluding with this:
Hagiography is too mild a term for this.
https://www.psypost.org/chatgpt-linked-to-declining-academic-performance-and-memory-loss-in-new-study/
Kate:
It’s called enfeeblement and it is a known threat posed by AI. So … I see it has appeared almost immediately.
I only use my AI powers for Good!
In my case researching unusual French usages, sometimes even misprints, which are difficult for a learner to determine otherwise.
Re: AI and Energy
Sabine Hossenfelder offers a nice wrap-up:
–Sabine Hossenfelder, “How much energy AI really needs. And why that’s not its main problem.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZraZPFVr-U
Yes, AI is energy-intensive. Surprise, surprise. It cost $400 mil in energy to train ChatGPT-4. For ChatGPT-4 to generate a single image, it requires the same amount of energy as to charge a cellphone.
Much of AI’s rapid (mind-bogglingly) improvement comes simply from scaling up AI in terms of hardware — 10x or more each year.
Things are not slowing down. We are witnessing the fastest take-off a new technology in history.
Which means that AI energy costs are increasing exponentially too.
The good news at least is that these rising energy costs will require a massive increase of energy generation, which renewables can’t possibly supply. It’s going to have to be fossil fuels and nukes. The Net Zero illusion must die.
Brown outs for AI generated pornography? After all, that’s where the money is. Will society choose wisely?
“Not Sure” asks (ht Idiocracy)?