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  1. It’s funny. Remember the foofaraw when Trump was allegedly overheard saying that he could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and murder somebody and his supporters would not forsake him? (Or at least, words to that effect.) That was quite probably true to a large extent. But it works the other way as well. People who hate him will believe anything that is said about him that is detrimental, regardless that he denies it or how outlandishly fake it is or whether it is later refuted. By now, positions have become adamantine. Only people who are not paying attention, i.e., the “moderates” might be swayed one way or another by these kinds of revelations should they catch wind of one or more of them by happenstance or inadvertance. Unfortunately, for every factual rebuttal that comes out now, the “Never Trumpers” and other suffers of TDS will concoct another tall tale that requires later refutation; it’s part of their playbook, as was the Bush “draft dodger” prevarication spread by Dan “Let’s All Be Objective Now” Rather.

  2. I know people who still believe Trump said Nazis were “fine people,” despite my explaining carefully that he said no such thing. When a mind is already made up, facts don’t matter. (For most people.)

  3. Not just ‘lies’, malicious reframing:

    Liz Cheney: No proof Trump ORDERED DCNG to help, thus insurrection.

    Trump OFFERED to help, it was refused.

    Cheney buried the letter showing Trump offered.

  4. Kate,
    I recall when the Charlottesville demonstrations happened, and then hearing Trump’s first statements on it. The minute he made those statements, I knew it would get twisted. If the media can edit the George Zimmerman 911 tapes the way they did and get away with it, then Trump was certain to get similar treatment.

    I believe those were the neo-Nazi words you were refering to.

    It is astonishing that such trickery works so well in the case of a presidential figure.

  5. It would be interesting to have a closer look at the events of Charlottesville too.
    That event also had the feel of ‘creating a narrative’ with a planned set up.
    – How many Feds were there, embedded with the different groups?
    – The police chief deleted messages, resigned, but then kept getting paid by the city.
    – A professional film crew (Vice studios) just happened to be there the night before to film sketchy tiki torch marchers.
    – Democrat Mayor Michael Signer & Democrat Governor Terry McAuliffe should have been in the dock over their poor handling of that weekend, not the POTUS. What was the point of getting official permits for an event if the city was just gonna step aside & let the event be overrun & attacked by other groups?

  6. there was a 1979 clash between klansmen and some communists in North Carolina which was the model they were going for, also they wanted to start ‘erasing monuments’ as they would do to frederick Douglass to Chamberlain to
    Lincolns Church St Johns, as they have done with Teddy Roosevelt, and tried to do in Philadelphia, a process much like joel pollak has described in Azania under wonderful Madiba, pbuh,

  7. of course the whole python gang, helped turn the UK into a corner of dystopia,
    but they were ahead of their time,

  8. What I still can’t square is that I think the riots on J6 actually disrupted Trump’s plans. On the morning of January 6th, there was going to be debate in Congress about rejecting electoral votes in Georgia and a few other states. There was talk of pausing the process in a search for more evidence. Trump had supporters of both of these ideas among GOP members of Congress. Trump was putting the full court press on Pence to get him to outright reject electoral votes. I don’t know if these GOP members were putting on a show for the base, kind of like Democrats in 2000, 2004, and 2016, or if they were actually serious about delaying certification. After the riot, though, Trump’s congressional support collapsed and Biden was quickly certified as the winner later that same day.

    I can’t fathom that Trump intended for the crowd from his J6 speech to riot at the capital. If he did, it was the biggest self-own in American political history. Even I don’t think Trump is that stupid.

    So here’s my “conspiracy theory,” which seems to fit the evidence so far. Somebody, or somebodies, in the deep state blob decided that the real threat to the republic in January of 2020 was that Trump’s supporters in Congress might actually succeed in delaying certification of the election, thereby sparking a serious Constitutional crisis and potentially disrupting the peaceful transfer of power. By January 6th, there had already been eight weeks to search for evidence and only two weeks remained before the inauguration. There was no reason at the time to believe that new evidence was about to be found. In fact, most of the “evidence” put forward by Trump’s team between November and January turned out to be false or mistaken. Given that, it’s not at all hard to imagine deep state types concluding that the “delay” was actually a pretext to keep Trump in power.

    So they staged J6 for the purpose of disrupting Trump’s attempt to block certification of the election. And it worked. And Trump walked right into the trap that had been set for him.

    Just one theory.

  9. the incursion was about stopping the objections, so we would have be cursed to this freak show out of fritz lang’s nightmares, they were willing to murder an unarmed air force veteran, and lie about it, then they threw in the lies about sicknick who probably died from a reaction to the teargas they released recklessly,

    the slapstick nature of this crazy stalker chick hutchinson’s complaint is almost amusing but it’s not because it masks the really nasty way they covered up the theft of this election, Comprende,

  10. It’s a mistake to call it the House Select Committee. Should have been called the House Corrupt Committee.

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