An informative discussion of the motivations behind anti-Semitism:
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Can’t usually keep up with such a fast speaker, but he was so good I managed. 🙂 Lost his place just once—incredible. I agree – ‘The squeaky wheel gets the grease‘ tho those weren’t his exact words. I believe Israel has a lot more supporters than the media is showing…
Israel is a much more accomplished country than any other in the Near East (look at statistics on production and real income) and the gap between it and the Arab populations on the West Bank and Gaza is a canyon. The Arabs have been militarily inglorious facing them. Note, Jews were regarded as a naturally subaltern population prior to 1920.
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As for the western left, they pick the side of injustice in every conflict. So does the palaeotrash right.
Yeah, like the Rabbi said – media isn’t talking about Israel’s support, e.g., “82% of the American public supports Israel”.
NYT doin’ what it does best….
“The NYT Misrepresents the History of the Israeli–Palestinian Conflict;
“A welter of factual errors and misleading judgments has produced a distorted description of the 1948 War.”— https://quillette.com/2024/02/27/the-nyt-misrepresents-the-history-of-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict/
H/T Powerline blog.
…Even raising the ire of Benny Morris (who, to be fair, has opened his eyes considerably since the second intifitada…or should that be, “has had his eyes opened for him…”?)
Opening graf:
“As we saw from the savage Hamas assault on southern Israel on 7 October, the Palestinians have certainly been active protagonists in their more-than-century-long battle against Zionism and Israel. But the New York Times would have it otherwise. Indeed, the underlying narrative in [the NYT] magazine piece of 6 February 2024, “The Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and the Long Shadow of 1948,” is that the Palestinians have always lacked agency and have no responsibility for anything that has befallen them over the decades. This, plus a welter of factual errors and misleading judgments, has produced a seriously distorted description of the history of the first Arab–Israeli war and its origin….” [Emphasis mine; Barry M.]
Just like how the media doesn’t report that even the Israeli left now backs the complete destruction of Hamas.
The land WAS mostly not populated before modern Zionism attracted the return of the Jewish people to their homeland. Read ‘Innocents Abroad’ by Mark Twain. He rode a donkey from Damascus to Jerusalem in 1869, part of a group of tourists from NYC. He describes a desolation devoid of inhabitants,
The claim that there was a thriving Arab/Muslim polity in the Holy Land which was displaced by the Jews is simply a lie.
@ David – In the ancient American political past, even the Kennedy clan knew that.
The left will never forgive Israel for leaving the kibbutz for capitalist Tel Aviv. There used to be leftist commie-tourism, as college kids went to Israel to live on a commune. But then, Israel developed and became prosperous, and now faces the eternal ire of the left.
They mostly hate Israel, because hating is fun, hating is easy, and whenever a group agrees on who to hate, hating the hatable allows togetherness and unity. Like hating the Vietnam War, or hating Nazis. Or hating the Spanish Inquisition (bet you didn’t expect that here—no one expects…), or hating pro-life Christians.
Or hating commies (like I do), or hating baby killing pro-abortionists, or hating liberals, or Dems, or Reps, or conservatives.
Or hating Satan, hating evil.
It’s actually good to hate evil, sinful acts, tho it’s important to love the sinner.
But what are sinful acts to atheists? That’s where religious principles, which clearly identify sin, get replaced by the will to power.
Hating oppressors is maybe not so bad, but oppressing actions are chosen behaviors, not an identity. And all oppressors, including Hitler & Stalin, were oppressed at points in their lives.
Lazy folks often hate the hard working folk, who are more successful due to the hard work, and show that the lack of success which lazy folk have is due to their own behavior rather than an effect of them being victims. The self-hate of the lazy, against their own laziness and failure, is instead directed at the successful.
Not enough social research is publicized about hate—tho I now believe my opinions are true above, their inevitable incompleteness might be missing other very important factors.
I think Tom Gray has a very good point as Eric Hoffer noted hate is good for self-esteem.
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Can’t usually keep up with such a fast speaker, but he was so good I managed. 🙂 Lost his place just once—incredible. I agree – ‘The squeaky wheel gets the grease‘ tho those weren’t his exact words. I believe Israel has a lot more supporters than the media is showing…
Israel is a much more accomplished country than any other in the Near East (look at statistics on production and real income) and the gap between it and the Arab populations on the West Bank and Gaza is a canyon. The Arabs have been militarily inglorious facing them. Note, Jews were regarded as a naturally subaltern population prior to 1920.
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As for the western left, they pick the side of injustice in every conflict. So does the palaeotrash right.
Netanyahu Counters Biden: Most Americans Support Israel
Yeah, like the Rabbi said – media isn’t talking about Israel’s support, e.g., “82% of the American public supports Israel”.
NYT doin’ what it does best….
“The NYT Misrepresents the History of the Israeli–Palestinian Conflict;
“A welter of factual errors and misleading judgments has produced a distorted description of the 1948 War.”—
https://quillette.com/2024/02/27/the-nyt-misrepresents-the-history-of-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict/
H/T Powerline blog.
…Even raising the ire of Benny Morris (who, to be fair, has opened his eyes considerably since the second intifitada…or should that be, “has had his eyes opened for him…”?)
Opening graf:
“As we saw from the savage Hamas assault on southern Israel on 7 October, the Palestinians have certainly been active protagonists in their more-than-century-long battle against Zionism and Israel. But the New York Times would have it otherwise. Indeed, the underlying narrative in [the NYT] magazine piece of 6 February 2024, “The Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and the Long Shadow of 1948,” is that the Palestinians have always lacked agency and have no responsibility for anything that has befallen them over the decades. This, plus a welter of factual errors and misleading judgments, has produced a seriously distorted description of the history of the first Arab–Israeli war and its origin….” [Emphasis mine; Barry M.]
+Bonus…as Europe (in this case, Belgium) and the West generally descend yet even deeper down the rabbit hole…
“Pakistani Imam Preaches Jew-Hate in Belgian Parliament”—
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/20437/imam-jew-hate-belgiam
Karmi –
Just like how the media doesn’t report that even the Israeli left now backs the complete destruction of Hamas.
The land WAS mostly not populated before modern Zionism attracted the return of the Jewish people to their homeland. Read ‘Innocents Abroad’ by Mark Twain. He rode a donkey from Damascus to Jerusalem in 1869, part of a group of tourists from NYC. He describes a desolation devoid of inhabitants,
The claim that there was a thriving Arab/Muslim polity in the Holy Land which was displaced by the Jews is simply a lie.
@ David – In the ancient American political past, even the Kennedy clan knew that.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2024/02/Screenshot-2024-02-19-at-12.57.28%E2%80%AFPM.png
The left will never forgive Israel for leaving the kibbutz for capitalist Tel Aviv. There used to be leftist commie-tourism, as college kids went to Israel to live on a commune. But then, Israel developed and became prosperous, and now faces the eternal ire of the left.
They mostly hate Israel, because hating is fun, hating is easy, and whenever a group agrees on who to hate, hating the hatable allows togetherness and unity. Like hating the Vietnam War, or hating Nazis. Or hating the Spanish Inquisition (bet you didn’t expect that here—no one expects…), or hating pro-life Christians.
Or hating commies (like I do), or hating baby killing pro-abortionists, or hating liberals, or Dems, or Reps, or conservatives.
Or hating Satan, hating evil.
It’s actually good to hate evil, sinful acts, tho it’s important to love the sinner.
But what are sinful acts to atheists? That’s where religious principles, which clearly identify sin, get replaced by the will to power.
Hating oppressors is maybe not so bad, but oppressing actions are chosen behaviors, not an identity. And all oppressors, including Hitler & Stalin, were oppressed at points in their lives.
Lazy folks often hate the hard working folk, who are more successful due to the hard work, and show that the lack of success which lazy folk have is due to their own behavior rather than an effect of them being victims. The self-hate of the lazy, against their own laziness and failure, is instead directed at the successful.
Not enough social research is publicized about hate—tho I now believe my opinions are true above, their inevitable incompleteness might be missing other very important factors.
I think Tom Gray has a very good point as Eric Hoffer noted hate is good for self-esteem.
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