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Rachel Maddow thoughtfully protects us from Trump’s Iowa speech — 32 Comments

  1. The strategy of all these liberal talking heads endlessly screeching about Trump being basically Hitler 2.0 and claiming that the country will become a nightmarish, authoritarian hellscape if he were to win again is bemusing to me. What audience is this absurd argument for? Who is watching these shows who isn’t already on board with this hysterical nonsense? And what is the point of preaching to the choir anyway?

  3. The bit where Maddow says they can’t broadcast untruths is hilarious. She was Russia hoax central.

  4. Hilarious. Rachel Maddow would break out in hives if she ever actually said something truthful on her DNC infomercial.

  7. It is their right to not air his speeches. Right now it is a choice. A choice they want to take from us. By “They” I mean the Left in all it’s forms. The average Dem voter thinks this is fine for Trump, but what happens when someone they like is banned even though that person is on the Left too.

  8. And yet there is an audience for Maddow and her ilk. I have no ideas who those people are, having never met one. But I don’t live in a locale where I would be likely to do so. As the mythical assailants of Juicy Smollet said, “This is MAGA country!”

  9. Steve (retired/recovering lawyer):

    Well, I know plenty of them. The ones I know are Democrats who listen out of habit and been listening for so long that it all seems to make sense to them, because she is one of their main sources of information and they don’t get much competing information.

  11. “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.” Isaiah 5:20

  12. Re: Jussie Smollett

    Steve (retired/recovering lawyer):

    You inspired me to look up the latest on poor Juicy….

    In spite of having the Woke crowd on up to Michelle Obama (apparently) pulling strings for Juicy, he went down in court and although he is contesting, it looks like he’s staying down.

    Even wiki has a page definitively titled:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jussie_Smollett_hate_crime_hoax

    Unfortunately, the left has perfected a “So what? What about _______?” teflon response. And on to the next fight.

  13. Yes, the CNN guy did the same.

    … If these numbers hold the biggest victory for a non-incumbent president in the modern era for this contest, a relatively subdued speech as these things go so far, although here he is right now under, under my voice. You hear him repeating his anti-immigrant rhetoric.

    He did take time to praise his rivals, Haley and DeSantis and Ramaswamy by name. Rather, untrumplike to do that, a gracious, but perhaps a sign of some message discipline, at least for one night.

    He also praised his wife, all five of his children, all five by name. …

  15. The one fervent Maddow viewer I know is probably representative, at least of her over-60 audience. Bright guy, very good software developer, ex-hippie, now very comfortable financially to say the least. Refers to Maddow as “Rachel,” as if we all know and love her like he does. As far as I can tell he is totally embubbled. Has no conception of ways of thinking outside his own, except as caricatures. And he truly believes that Trump’s 2016 victory was exactly the same phenomenon as Hitler’s electoral victory, and cannot be allowed to happen again. Truly believes he is working to save “democracy.”

    Being an ex-hippie myself, the ex-hippies who have fallen for these technocrats really depress and irritate me in equal measure. “Question authority!” Yeah, effing right.

  17. Being an ex-hippie myself, the ex-hippies who have fallen for these technocrats really depress and irritate me in equal measure. “Question authority!” Yeah, effing right.

    Give ’em hell, Mac!

  18. Mac:

    Yes, that somewhat describes the Maddow fans I know. Smart, and mostly just don’t get other information, and have been watching her so long it’s reality to them.

    If your friend thinks Trump’s victory in 2016 was the same as Hitler’s electoral victory, though, that would be very odd. Germany had a parliamentary system, and Hitler didn’t win and his party got about a third of the vote. Hitler was appointed. I tell the story in this post.

    I’ve discovered that most people think Hitler came to power through being elected. He did not.

  19. My liberal / left / prog friends never read / listen / watch outside their bubble. Their only exposure is when someone like Colbert attacks / ridicules right-wing positions.,

  20. Mac, as we witnessed during the pandemic the left has definitely become “the man”. They, way more than conservatives, bought the government propaganda regarding lockdowns, mask wearing, and the vaccine, etc. Maddow is such a discredited, shameless tool. I can’t believe she’s still around. I must say I do love Russell. He’s been more of an anarchist/leftist but he calls out BS and is definitely coming around. Used to be the darling of the left, now not so much.

  23. Neo and the election of 1932 –
    July 1932 the Nazis became the largest party in the Reichstag, albeit short of an absolute majority. 1933 was a pivotal year for Hitler and the Nazi Party. Traditionally, the leader of the party who held the most seats in the Reichstag was appointed Chancellor.

    So you could say that he was elected. He was not elected himself but his Party was the largest.

  24. SteveS: “Mac, as we witnessed during the pandemic the left has definitely become “the man”

    Yes, and I could stand that, but what I can’t stand is their continuing to pose as, and probably sincerely see themselves as, the bold rebel underdogs. Really kind of nauseates me.

    huxley: [fist bump]

    Neo, thanks for the info about Hitler’s rise. I’ve heard “Hitler was democratically elected” a hundred times. Oddly, from the same sort of people who use the word “democracy” as if rule by the numerical majority were the only conceivable good form of government.

  25. SHIREHOME:

    No, he was not elected. Absolutely not elected. Please read the link I posted in the previous comment. His party got about a third, but could not put together a coalition. Then there were two elections for president which he lost to Hindenburg. There was the proverbial “backroom deal“:

    n 1932, hoping to establish a clear government by majority rule, Hindenburg held two presidential elections. Hitler, among others, ran against him. A vote for Hindenburg was a vote to continue the German Republic, while a vote for Hitler was a vote against it. The Nazi party made the most clever use of propaganda, as well as the most extensive use of violence. Bloody street battles erupted between Communists and Nazis thugs, and many political figures were murdered.

    In the first election, held on March 13, 1932, Hitler received 30 percent of the vote, losing badly to Hindenburg’s 49.6 percent. But because Hindenburg had just missed an absolute majority, a run-off election was scheduled a month later. On April 10, 1932, Hitler increased his share of the vote to 37 percent, but Hindenburg again won, this time with a decisive 53 percent. A clear majority of the voters had thus declared their preference for a democratic republic.

    However, the balance of power in the Reichstag was still unstable, lacking a majority party or coalition to rule the government. All too frequently, Hindenburg had to evoke the dictatorial powers available to him under Article 48 of the constitution to break up the political stalemate. In an attempt to resolve this crisis, he called for more elections. On July 31, 1932, the Nazis won 230 out of 608 seats in the Reichstag, making them its largest party. Still, they did not command the majority needed to elect Hitler Chancellor.

    In another election on November 6, 1932, the Nazis lost 34 seats in the Reichstag, reducing their total to 196. And for the first time it looked as if the Nazi threat would fade. This was for several reasons. First, the Nazis’ violence and rhetoric had hardened opposition against Hitler, and it was becoming obvious that he would never achieve power democratically. Even worse, the Nazi party was running very low on money, and it could no longer afford to operate its expensive propaganda machine. Furthermore, the party was beginning to splinter and rebel under the stress of so many elections. Hitler discovered that Gregor Strasser, one of the Nazis’ highest officials, had been disloyal, attempting to negotiate power for himself behind Hitler’s back. The shock was so great that Hitler threatened to shoot himself.

    But at the lowest ebb of the Nazis’ fortunes, the backroom deal presented itself as the solution to all their problems. Deal-making, intrigues and double-crosses had been going on for years now. Schleicher, who had managed to make himself the last German Chancellor before Hitler, would eventually say: “I stayed in power only 57 days, and on each of those days I was betrayed 57 times.” It’s not worth tracking the ins and outs of all these schemes, but the one that got Hitler into power is worth noting.

    Hitler’s unexpected savior was Franz von Papen, one of the former Chancellors, a remarkably incompetent man who owed his political career to a personal friendship with Hindenburg. He had been thrown out of power by the much more capable Schleicher, who personally replaced him. To get even, Papen approached Hitler and offered to become “co-chancellors,” if only Hitler would join him in a coalition to overthrow Schleicher. Hitler responded that only he could be the head of government, while Papen’s supporters could be given important cabinet positions. The two reached a tentative agreement to pursue such an alliance, even though secretly they were planning to double-cross each other.

    Meanwhile Schleicher was failing spectacularly in his attempts to form a coalition government, so Hindenburg forced his resignation. But by now, Hindenburg was exhausted by all the intrigue and crisis, and the prospect of civil war had moved the steely field marshal to tears. As much as he hated to do so, he seemed resigned to offering Hitler a high government position. Many people were urging him to do so: the industrialists who were financing Hitler, the military whose connections Hitler had cultivated, even Hindenburg’s son, whom some historians believe the Nazis had blackmailed. The last straw came when an unfounded rumor swept through Berlin that Schleicher was about to attempt a military coup, arrest Hindenburg, and establish a military dictatorship. Alarmed, Hindenburg wasted no time offering Hitler the Chancellorship, thinking it was a last resort to save the Republic.

    On January 30, 1933, Hitler was sworn in as Chancellor.

  26. Nonapod: And what is the point of preaching to the choir anyway?
    Neo: Motivating voter turnout.

    Also, boosting viewer numbers and advertising rates.

    Promo: “Watch out show about Trump, the man you love to hate!”

    liberal talking heads endlessly screeching about Trump being basically Hitler 2.0 and claiming that the country will become a nightmarish, authoritarian hellscape

    The irony is that we are on well our way to that hellscape under the Biden junta, and that Trumpism leads to a freer, happier, more prosperous country.

  27. Maddow and all her classmates are the reason I will continue to vote for Trump. I do think DeSantis would be a good president. I just can’t do another term of RINOS–neither can this country. No more “compromising with evil”.

  28. @ Neo > “The shock was so great that Hitler threatened to shoot himself.”

    This may be the one and only time I would say to a nascent suicide, “Please, do.”

    The story of Hindenburg’s final capitulation and appointment of Hitler as Chancellor is an excellent example of how all our past and current tyrants on the Left eventually get their way: they just keep going, and escalate the harassment and intimidation of their opponents instead of accepting defeat.

  29. Meanwhile, “Biden”‘s herculean efforts to TRANSFORM the USA are continuing oh-so-successfully…

    “Why American cities are squalid;
    “Human flourishing is seen as dirty”…
    https://archive.is/9sEAy
    H/T Blazingcatfur blog.
    (Not even sure that America at this point qualifies as even a Third-World country….)
    – – – – – – – – –
    (All this talk about Schicklgruber and Trump and National Socialists and so-called “Trumpists”…but wasn’t Biden also “elected” um, “democratically”—make that “elected” “fortifiedly”—and, hey, what about antifa and BLM, the Democratic Party street-fighting schock troops…not to mention all those Cease-Fire Warriors…in support of butchery, mutilation, rape, hostage-taking, enthusiastic rocket, missile firing and destroying countries…IOW “the—new, apparently—American Way”)?

  31. Truth requires that the word Nazi in German is short for National Socialism. Unlike what the MSM tells us, Nazis were LEFTIST.

  32. @ Cicero – And as an addendum to my earlier comment, the other strategy of the Left is supported by the quote from Ace in Neo’s DOJ post:
    “And then they lied and lied and lied to the American public.”

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