The UN is the educational propaganda arm of Hamas and other jihadis, training Palestinian children in Jew-hatred for generations
And the US has given them the money to do it by its huge monetary support of the UN.
I became alerted to this long ago. I wish I could recall exactly where and when I first read about it, but I came across an article describing this – perhaps in the New Yorker, perhaps in the early 1990s. The piece was about what was taught to Palestinian children in places such as Gaza, and it made my blood run cold. The UN has funded most of these schools, and the curriculum was and still is Jew-hatred of Nazi-level genocidal virulence.
I remember becoming quite frightened even back then, because it was obvious that this was going to bear fruit and, as bad as things already were in that area of the world, they would be getting worse.
I have thought of that article many times in the intervening years. I’ve searched for it, but I’m handicapped by the fact that I have no idea where it was published or exactly when, who wrote it or whether that was the main topic or whether it was tangential to the theme of the piece. It’s the only part I remember.
October 7 made me think of it again. I have little doubt that the terrorists who raped and tortured and murdered and mutilated with such zest and ferocity, and the people who cheered them in the streets of Gaza, had been steeped in the sort of education described above.
Note the cute little girl towards the end of this video:
This is an excellent discussion of the UNRWA Palestinian education problem. The good news, I suppose, is that if someone takes over and changes the education of these kids, the entire situation might at least improve. Towards the end of the video, the speaker describes efforts that have changed Saudi and UAE education for the better. The guy talking about UNRWA has been doing work on this enormously important issue for a long time, and I salute him:
I’ve got bad news for the narrator in the first video, and for anyone who holds to the fiction that we can “educate” peace into Palestinians. You’re chasing after the wind.
You can only contain Islam, you cannot reform it by education & those kids are simply following the tenets of Islam. When your “faith” gives you only two options for outsiders: subjugation by the “faith” or submission to the “faith,” there’s no room for anything else.
Amen, John
The UNWRA needs to be disbanded, and its “educational” assistance banned. People teaching Jew-hatred have been doing so for decades with UN money.
John Guilfoyle; Bill K:
Did you actually listen to the whole second video? The speaker is not the least bit naive. He explains how it is possible and how it has been done in other Muslim countries.
Plus, elderly Palestinians who were educated under a somewhat less vicious system are less eliminationist towards Israel than younger ones are. Education matters.
Our government is the enemy.
Hi Neo…of course I listened. “Naive” is your word not mine. I was quoting Ecclesiastes.
I think he’s wrong. And the large number of non-Palestinians chanting “from the river to the sea” all received an education. Education can have a huge impact on a person’s life. Worldview matters more.
Remember…metaphysics comes first. Worldview drives what you do with education. And worldview comes from the heart…As long as one’s worldview is shaped by Islam, you always end in jihad. Martyrdom is the highest goal. You can’t educate that out of the Koran.
which is part of the reason they went after prince salman, and the emir of abu dhabi, they have not proved to be stand up, in this conflict sadly,
John Guilfoyle:
I don’t understand your answer.
First of all, many many times people don’t watch the entire video, especially when it’s long. Plus, you had referenced the FIRST video (“I’ve got bad news for the narrator in the first video”), and we are talking about the second. So it was confusing and I was just trying to make sure you’d watched the last few minutes of it.
Secondly, this point of yours – “the large number of non-Palestinians chanting ‘from the river to the sea’ all received an education” – that is something that I would use to bolster my point rather than yours. Why do all those non-Palestinians and non-Muslims chant the same thing? Because of their education in postmodern leftist theory, and their education that teaches them that Israelis and Jews are bad.
The Muslim countries who want to obliterate the Jews – Iran, the Palestinians, Syria, Lebanon – are all taught to believe this. Other Muslim countries are not exactly lovers of the Jews and Israel, but are not focused on obliterating it and genocide of Jews any more. Obviously, Islam is part of the problem with Palestinians and Iran and those who are the most violently hateful, but I think the evidence is that education in hatred – plus Islam – make a toxic brew. Eliminate the education in hatred and you have a much less toxic situation.
they are not taught beyond that mantra, like the so called blm invocations ‘hands up don’t shoot’, plus there is the work of pappe, massad, et al, even negev, which casts doubt on the legitimacy of israel
https://twitter.com/samwestrop/status/1724631504087634200
Thanks Neo for using the blunt, accurate term “Jew-hatred”, rather than the inaccurate, mealy-mouthed, rather PC and of dubious origin term “anti-semitism.”
Neo, I’m still pretty much with John on this. I agree with you that education can lead to a less toxic situation, yet worldview exercises control over education. As long as Palestinians’ worldview doesn’t change, I believe educational efforts from external sources will be undermined and overridden by the Palestinians themselves.
I respect your point of view that education is important. And if you are secular, you probably disagree with me on this – Satan is alive and well on planet Earth and will continue to make life miserable for Israel and all the Jews. He is not passive in what is going on. He is described as exceedingly crafty. For every move that helps the situation, I give him credit in initiating countermoves in the minds of people to thwart the good. Both the OT & the NT don’t picture humanity in solving its own problems leading to peace on earth. And he drives the Palestinian worldview.
Ace linked this
https://freebeacon.com/national-security/children-as-young-as-10-took-part-in-hamass-oct-7-terror-attack-survivors-say/
Starting the newest generation on how to rape and pillage
the problem is one might say, deprogramming sometimes 20 years of it,
Muslim hatred of Jews, Christians and lots of others is just one subset of their hatred of each other. Good luck trying to “train” that out of them. Stop having anything to do with them except killing them when they get out of bounds. It’s a waste of time trying to civilize them. They’re like alcoholics. They need to fix themselves. No one else can do it.
“As long as Palestinians’ worldview doesn’t change, I believe educational efforts from external sources will be undermined and overridden by the Palestinians themselves.”
– THIS. “Chasing after the wind” ie…doomed to futility.
As long as they are shaped by Islam…they will overwhelmingly advocate the destruction of Israel OR the ever-unicornish “moderate Muslims” & “other Muslim countries” will simply tut-tut-tut the on-going slaughter, but do nothing to intervene & make it stop.
The UNWRA gets an enormous amount of money, probably more than $1 billion a year, or more than $30,000 per refugee. Yet the refugees see very little of this.
Note: children, grandchildren, … , of refugees are NOT refugees.
Bill K; John Guilfoyle:
Of course I’m not positing an enormous transformation. But the evidence is there that the education Palestinian children get is far beyond what Muslim children in other countries get in terms of Jew-hatred, and the acceptance and even veneration of acts of violence towards Jews. That result is that Palestinians are more intense than other Muslims in their hatred and violence towards Jews and Israel – that is, more of them are that way; the whole society is dedicated to it. Other Muslims are not so intensely focused on this. Those who study the situation say the level of violence and Jew-hatred among the Palestinians has worsened over the years as the educational system has emphasized these things more and more. It’s been an escalation, and that’s why younger Palestinians there exhibit more and deeper Jew-hatred, on the whole, than older Palestinians. In other Muslim countries where they’ have cut back on the hate message, the populations have been more willing to accept at least a sort of peaceful-coexistence situation with Israel. The message of Islam is still there, but it isn’t interpreted in as intense and pressing a manner.
@ skip – the post you cited says this, and then links to another news report, which I saw earlier today.
“Milshtein, who before joining Tel Aviv University was the head of the Department for Palestinian Affairs in the Israel Military Intelligence Directorate, said it was plausible that Hamas had used children to execute Israelis on Oct. 7. He noted that Hamas teaches children to celebrate violence against the Jewish state starting in preschool and runs summer camps that provide military training and anti-Israel education to some 100,000 children and teenagers each summer.”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/gaza-preschoolers-stage-mock-killing-of-israeli-solider/
I have done theater with elementary age children, and these kids are so well-trained that they could be mistaken for youths 10-20 years older by their actions.
This is sickening, and I can’t see how a child taught like that can be deprogrammed.
It’s frightening. The IDF makes a concerted effort , even now, not to harm civilians, especially children. And government officials and IDF spokespeople keep saying that our fight is with Hamas, not with civilians. But I wonder if that is really true.
I think about what it would do to my sons’ soul to kill children, and then more children, and then more. And I think about my sons’ (and all of our) safety if they don’t.
I look at the videos of mass demonstrations all over the world, and it amazes me how many people HATE us. It is so strange. We Jews, we Israelis, we’re not perfect, just like every other nation is imperfect. But we try to be good. We’ve built a lovely, livable society. At the very least, we’re no worse than other nation – and I would argue, better than many. It’s hard to understand this level of hate, and among SO MANY people, all over the world.
I am so grateful to all the IDF soldiers who protect us from people who hate us enough to try genocide. And torture. And barbarism. And I am grateful to the people around the world who do support us. It bolsters our spirits, and it affects government policies.
And the latest in “Peace Dividend” news…
“Jordanian newspaper features front-page Hebrew article predicting Israel’s collapse”—
https://www.timesofisrael.com/jordanian-newspaper-features-front-page-hebrew-article-predicting-israels-collapse/
Not sure one can blame the Jordanians though…
…since this is their method of “virtue signaling”….
hello mcfly, what do they think will happen to Jordan, which has a Bedouin majority along with roudy Syrian and Iraqi elements, need we recall that Zarquawi, was from there, and he painted Baghdad in crimson colors,
Ilana, Neo, those who ask “why do they hate?”
Jewish Derangement Syndrome.
The latest development of the Trump Derangement Syndrome, which itself grew out of Bush Derangement Syndrome.
I’ve argued before it should be relabeled to focus on it being Democrats, who are deluded into hating the object of hatred – deluded with untruths and half-truths which are believed and allow rationalization. But
Delusional Democrat Derangement Syndrome isn’t likely to catch on (unless Jordan Peterson uses it?)
Vox had a mostly mediocre article about “what next?” in Gaza, with blah blah reasons the Israelis should do a pause and merely assassinate Hamas leaders when they find them. Yet somehow not take control.
But that’s an important question I don’t see or know the IDF/ Israeli/ Bibi answer to; what next?
My first pass proposal: a 3-state solution, where Israel already exists, and as it conquers Hamas & Gaza, it creates an occupied:
Gaza Palestine Confederation
of 5 cantons (Jabalya, Gaza, Deir el Batah, Khan Younis, Rafah)
http://www.vidiani.com/maps/maps_of_asia/maps_of_gaza_strip/large_detailed_road_map_of_gaza_strip.jpg
It uses the Swiss constitution as a rough guide (as a couple other countries have done: the Constitution of the Republic of Armenia, which was adopted in 1995, was modeled on the Swiss Constitution. Similarly, the Constitution of the Kyrgyz Republic, which was adopted in 2010, was also modeled on the Swiss Constitution.)
In the temporary occupation, expected to last less time than Hamas’ 17 year control since 2006, Israel controls the Federal executive, police, and courts; possibly also schools.
Include a Job Guarantee – the govt will offer everybody a job, and subsidize the work of semi-disabled folk, and very low IQ folk, so that all can afford to buy food and pay rent.
Massive rebuilding of flats & parks & mixed use areas.
Plus more (not actually utoptian but still unlikely)!
“What next?”, while a necessary question, a pressing question, still cannot rise to the primary and active question — the which remains: “How do we win this war?” — yet will rise, eventually and again, of necessity.
I would ask, preliminarily — How many Israeli citizens (in good standing, which is to say “contentedly”) are themselves Arabs by self-identification, whether Christian, Muslim, Druze, Baha’i, or whathaveyou, religious or otherwise? There are many, no?
Think of these and let these themselves think how they may actively participate in governing in nominally “Arab” places under Israeli security guarantees, how about? And by all means, let that enterprise aim at profitability, among the other necessary measures it undertakes — forming civil society from the ground up, with all the needs of humankind in tow.
They are not swiss its more like piranhas or sharks
What I find more than a bit hard to understand is they claim that they love DEATH…that they actively SEEK it; but then, when they actually start getting killed, they get all hot under the color.
[…shakes head…]
Seems that shows that there is something really screwy with their educational system…not that education in the West is the cat’s meow, exactly…. Still…
(OTOH, maybe they spend most of their time studying the finer points of Applied Cognitive Dissonance…which can be a most difficult major and an exhausting discipline.)
Remember inhoteps hordes in the mummy the 99 version the 17 was decidedly meh
If the plan is to educate Muslims out of subjugating the world for Muhammad and Allah, well … that’s a bit tricky.
But educating Palestinian children so they don’t have a burning desire to commit genocide against Jews Right Now … I say, that’s doable.
huxley:
Agreed.
Agreed also. I’m just arguing for expectations of improvement as rather minor. But certainly better than not trying!