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  1. Everyone seems so surprised that the Palestinians lied. Moslems lie to non believers. They. Lie. To. Infidels. Nothing Hamas says should be believed. Everyone not Moslems should repeat to themselves, Moslems lie to infidels. Traditionally Moslems divide the world into two, the House of Peace-Islam and the House of War-everyone else.

  2. JFM, what is particularly outrageous is that this is very well-known, they have been doing it for decades. Neo has written on the Al-Dura “killing” and then there was the phony “Jenin massacre”, both in the early 2000s. Yet the MFM continues to enthusiastically transmit their lies and libel followed by weak muted retractions after they get caught. What a horrible malignant disgrace!

  3. The Israeli man in the video, and his family, would have been slaughtered by the Hamas terrorists if they had not been armed. He let them know he was armed by shooting through the door, and that was enough to stop them for several hours. Enough time for the Israeli military to rescue them.

    Still, amazingly, Israel has much more restrictive gun control laws than the United States. Only a few hundred thousand Israelis have firearms in the home. See this article in Reason magazine.

    “In the wake of the Hamas terrorist organization’s murderous attacks on Israel, the country’s government is admitting—not for the first time—that even Israel’s extensive security apparatus can’t be everywhere to protect everyone. Under the pressure of bloody events, officials are again making it easier for civilians to acquire and carry firearms for self-defense.”

    https://reason.com/2023/10/13/israel-eases-guns-restrictions-amidst-security-failures/

    The United States is vulnerable to terrorist attacks because the Democrats have opened the borders to import future voters. It is only a matter of time before the terrorist cells that have entered the country carry out some attacks here in United States. There is time to arm ourselves and to support organizations like the Second Amendment Foundation that mount legal challenges to gun control laws.

  4. It is disgraceful, but not too surprising once you realize that a large portion of the press and the left in general have the great intention of ruining Western Civilization. That necessitates ridding the world of Judaism, Christianity, and any other religion that might stand in their way. Today the Jews, tomorrow it might be you.

  5. Bob Wilson:

    I keep reading how restrictive Israeli gun laws are. On the other hand, I’ve read many stories about people grabbing their guns and going into the southern zone to rescue and defend friends and family. All of the kibbutzim seem to have had armed self-defense forces, but they weren’t prepared for an onslaught of the magnitude that came. There were 3,000 terrorists, and nothing of that sort had ever happened. It was more of an invasion. Survival really seems to have depended at least in part how many terrorists each defender faced, and how implacable the terrorists were in the face of Israeli self-defense. There was variety in that regard.

  6. JFM and FOAF

    Many are still trying to convince themselves the believers in the Prophet go not routinely lie, threaten, attack, extort and kill non believers. This is standard Islamic practice. Still trying to separate the person from their beliefs. Very foolish. They are what they believe.

  7. Neo, most of the Israeli civilians with guns had handguns and were limited to 50 rounds of ammo. The security forces had rifles (mostly I’ve seen M4s, basically AR15 type rifles), but those seemed to have been kept in the armory, and in several instances the security people took their handgun to try to access long guns at the armory.

    The terrorists didn’t appear highly skilled in the videos I’ve seen. IIn my view even modest armed defense was very useful.

  8. Neo, I do not understand your point. Of course, some Israelis were armed but, in my opinion, it would have been better if more were armed. Do you disagree? Do you think Israel’s gun policies should be loosened? I think that Israelis should be encouraged by the government to have rifles in their homes. That unlicensed concealed carry of pistols be legalized. Do you disagree?

  9. In the words of a very heavily armed coworker I once knew, “when the time comes it is arm thy neighbor”.

  10. There is a simple reason for Israeli gun control; they don’t want Hamas or any other terrorist group to have access to a large cache of arms because they went into a kibbutz and murdered most of the occupants. Israeli police carry semi-automatic pistols, but do not carry with a round in the chamber in case they get in a physical altercation and lose possession of the gun. The IDF, even in areas where tensions are high, keep a limited number of rifle magazines loaded. They have learned from hard experience to not make guns available to terrorists.

  11. I wonder if some of the Israeli gun restrictions are to keep civilian militias from taking matters into their own hands against non Jews who are lawfully inside Israel. ” Settlers” as they call them. And then the Israelis have a lot of European Jews and their descendants among them who do not necessarily have a Second Amendment tradition.

  12. NorthOfTheOneOhOne,

    In Israel they carry without a round in the chamber because that is their manual of arms. It provides a consistent way to train people when there is a large variety of different types of pistols in use. It’s also a safety “crutch”, for a population not well versed in gun safety.

    Even the Mossad agents in the 70s getting revenge for Munich carried in Condition 3. This is mentioned in the book “Vengeance”.

    Further, condition 3 carry would be foolish for that purpose. An attacker is more likely to get control of your weapon if you are slow in engaging it, require two hands, etc.

  13. Jon baker,

    Israel has no read 2nd tradition. Even American Jews who migrated to Israel would have had little in the way of 2nd A tradition. They would have been mostly relatively recent Americans (not dating back to the colonies or Western expansion), and mostly from NYC.

  14. From what I have read, another worry is about large numbers of weapons in the hands of the Arab minority, some of whom are not well-disposed towards the Jewish state. Mostly, gun permits go to citizens who have served in the IDF, so Arabs who served would be included, but not the general population.

  15. As in the United States, the only people that are stopped by gun regulations are the law abiding. The Middle East is awash in guns, and, if a militia or other group wants to get them, there’s a little to stop them.

    Given the experience of the man in the video, it is clear to me that fewer people would have been killed if more Israelis had been armed.

  16. Every time I hear of a prisoner ‘swap’, I grind my teeth. Prisoner swaps require a civilized enemy. Israel is dealing with pure evil.

    Give captured terrorists a fair trial, if convicted of terrorism or of active support for terrorism, immediate execution conducted in a way that renders them ‘unclean’ by Islam’s own tenets. Result; no virgins, no paradise ever… as Allah has declared in their ‘sacred’ Qur’an.

  17. Bob Wilson:

    That was most true at the Rave, where the victims were almost entirely unarmed sitting ducks, and there were a huge number of terrorists. In the kibbutzim it was more mixed in terms of weapons possessions and number of terrorists to fend off at each kibbutz.

    But a number of IDF soldiers at a base were also killed. They were well-armed, but I believe the terrorists made the base’s warning systems ineffective and also surprised and killed them while they slept. That was actually true of a lot of the victims on the kibbutzim – they were sleeping. The attacks happened at 6 AM or something like that. The people who had a better chance of surviving were those who had enough time to get their weapons or to activate the kibbutz security force, and where there wasn’t such an overwhelming number of terrorists attacking that particular place.

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