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Open thread 10/24/23 — 40 Comments

  1. Had my Coffee, read the blogs and news sites. Waiting for it to warm up a bit before going out and attacking the Leaves. The Leaves are the only thing I can do something about, the rest of the world will have to get along without me.

  2. om, speaking of apples, have you ever made apple cider?

    After squeezing 187 gallons last year from our apple trees with a press, we put some in 20 oz pop bottles, let the natural yeast on the apple skins cause the juice to ferment over 6 weeks at room temperature, and had apple champagne.

    Cheers!

    With a caution: opening the pop bottle must be done slowly or else the liquid will erupt. My daughter decorated her dorm ceiling with a 10-foot circle of apple watercolor in discovering this little detail.

  3. According to Breitbart

    “ Rep. Tom Emmer (R-MN) won the latest House Republican Speaker nomination Tuesday on the fifth ballot by a 117-97 vote.”

    At this point I do not care who it is so long as they elect somebody. Well, at least a Republican, regardless of the variety.

  4. Bill K:

    I’ve never made apple cider, only a little beer, 40+ years ago, before the small brew pub thing started. I was a glassware washer in the Oregon State University Hops Research lab at the time. They were brewing beer in a working organic chemistry lab which posed some food safety cognitive dissonance. My batches were brewed elsewhere.

  5. “steve walsh on October 24, 2023 at 3:32 pm said:
    I’d rather there be no GOP House speaker than someone like Emmer.”

    Same.

  6. Because Pyros love a fire more than the possible.

    The perfect is the enemy of the good.

    Geatz’s gambit wasn’t even a “good enough” plan. Events and unforseen outcomes happen when subadults play with fire.

    If Democrats retake the House no matter the reason it will be blamed on those moderate or worse Republicans (in Pyro logic).

  7. @Bob Wilson

    Why?

    Because he is a House member that is most interested in:

    1. Raising funds for his reelection campaign
    2. Happy to go along with Joe Biden’s disastrous, for America and the regular folk here, border and economic policies
    3. Unconcerned about election integrity and prevention of a repeat of what happened in 2020
    4. Anti-Trump

    But, he’s out so moot as Kate says.

  8. BREAKING NEWS
    Rep. Tom Emmer withdraws from House Speaker race.

    Rep. Marjorie Taylor-Green mentions that in 1855, it took the House 2 months to decide and over 100 ballots.

    She says the R House is undergoing a sea change and hopes it listens to the R voters who want a MAGA agenda.

    Source — Fox Business channel live

  9. I have a Speaker candidate, Rep. Mike Collins, R-GA. His platform:
    — House must work longer hours than UAW
    — All 12 appropriation bills must be passed out of Committee before August
    recess or NO RECESS
    — Carmines for dinner at every conference
    — Pass term limits
    — Press releases out / memes in
    — Wider parking spaces to fit up to 18 wheels
    — No omni buses, mini buses or short buses
    — No money to Ukraine until Southern border is secured
    — A chicken in every pot
    — No more having to listen to Frank Luntz at retreats
    — No secret side deals

    What’s not to love? His whole Twitter feed is funny. We could all use some laughter.

    https://x.com/RepMikeCollins/status/1716531352332353575?s=20

  10. How do you re-establish trust in the Republican House?

    McCarthy failed to lead the House, after promising the House would return to regular order. It’s my understanding that only 4 of the 12 appropriation bills had been voted out of their committees and only one had been brought to the floor for passage.

    But the final straw was passing a “clean” continuing resolution that contained all the spending the Democrats wanted with nothing in it they didn’t want.

    Ninety Republicans voted against it. It only passed because Democrats voted for it. In fact every Democrat except one voted for it. When it counted, McCarthy failed as a conservative. McCarthy should have passed a CR with spending cuts. It would have gone to conference where no doubt most of the spending cuts would have been added back, but maybe, just maybe a few billion dollars could have been trimmed.

    The GOPe wants to hang the situation on the crazy eight– but the division is greater than that. The House is closer to evenly divided between fiscal liberals (130 voted for a $2 trillion dollar deficit in 2024) and fiscal conservatives (90 voted against it).

    There’s even a schedule the House is supposed to follow:
    Timetable of the congressional budget process (in law, if not always in practice)
    First Monday in February: President submits proposed budget.

    Feb. 15: Congressional Budget Office submits report on economic and fiscal outlook to the House and Senate budget committees.

    Six weeks after president submits budget: Other House and Senate committees submit their views and estimates to the budget committees.

    April 1: Senate Budget Committee reports concurrent resolution on the budget.

    April 15: House and Senate agree to a concurrent resolution on the budget.

    May 15: Annual appropriations bills may be considered in the House.

    June 10: House Appropriations Committee reports its last annual appropriations bill.

    June 15: Congress completes action on reconciliation legislation.

    June 30: House completes action on all annual appropriations bills.

    Oct. 1: Fiscal year begins; all annual appropriations bills enacted by this date.

    You’re making a mistake to blame this all on the crazy eight. McCarthy made the promise in January. There’s even a schedule to follow. McCarthy failed. And then he resorted to the most swampy thing imaginable– passing a Democrat budget.

  11. And yet for all that Gaetz and the seven dwarves voted with all the Democrats. The eight and the Dems out swamped McCarthy.

    And what is Gaetz’s plan since then? Crickets.

  12. And yet in spite of all that Gaetz and the seven dwarves chose to vote with all the Democrats. That is malarial, leech infested, South Pacific (Solomon Islands) level of swamp. Not the Everglades, not The Great Dismal Swamp, that’s coastal New Guinea swamp.

    And what is Gaetz’s plan now that he’s shown how low he would go? Crickets and cheerleaders.

    McCarthy made him do it! So sayeth his chorus.

  13. Om sdferr and I have had previous discussion of IDF plan re the Hamas tunnels.
    One thing I read today somewhere (here?) had to do with ventilation. Do they rely on electric fans to ventilate them, or are they so primitive that they just hope for ocean breezes?
    Food, water, and medicine can be brought in or smuggled, but electricity cannot. They no doubt have backup generators, but these require a lot of fuel, and are very noisy, making them relatively easy for IDF to locate.
    Maybe the delay is due to waiting for the tunnel ventilation to give out, forcing Hamas to show themselves???
    Does anyone know?

  14. I don’t know any details West TX. I can easily concoct answers to the physical problems, as for instance placing vent shafts inside existing dwellings to hide openings, muffle noise, etc. But I’m just making that up from thin air.

    I keep coming back to my fixation on horizontal drilling (see: https://www.globalspec.com/learnmore/building_construction/building_construction_tools_machines/horizontal_directional_drilling_machines_hdd ) as the IDF’s best bet, coupled with other simple tech like pipeline inspection cameras or similar to peer around once a tunnel has been penetrated, to be followed by fuel-air explosive mixtures or wharever the sappers deem fit. Problem with drillrigs though is they’ll have to be somewhat proximate to enemy fires, therefore need protection from rpgs, atms, quadcopters dropping grenades, etc., and that’s a tall order. Tall buildings will need to be brought down, because snipers and atm teams will take every advantage they can get. It’s insanely complex, the problems the IDF faces.

  15. Rep. Jim Banks, R-Ind., was one of the Republicans who voted against Emmer on Tuesday.

    “I’ve supported every Republican nominee to be Speaker of the House so far, but I will not vote for Tom Emmer on the House floor. The left-flank of our conference blocked Speaker-designee Jim Jordan then nominated the single most liberal member of leadership to continue business as usual in Washington,” he said in a statement.

    “They are holding our conference hostage and pushing Republicans to betray our voters and abandon our promises to the American people. I won’t go along with it,” Banks also said.

    Apparently the Get-A-Long part of the party likes the pork.

    https://justthenews.com/government/congress/emmers-speaker-nomination-peril-house-floor-vote

  16. Speaking of the Seven Dwarves, as om did, here’s the latest twisty-turn on the new Disney Snow White…

    Our story thus far… Disney has dumped the Brother Grimm and the Disney 1937 versions of Snow White for a New Improved Woke version with a Latina dulce de leche Snow White who cares not for the love of Prince Charming, but seeks her destiny as a girl boss warrior with a little help from the Seven Magical Creatures (not dwarves because that would be racist or sizeist or something).

    Disney is taking much heat for this and for the Latina Snow White actress, Rachel Zegler, who has an embarrassing video web record ridiculing the original Disney Snow White.

    Now South Park, the longstanding, brutally satiric comedy show, has taken solid aim at Disney in an upcoming premiere episode in which the four white boys in a Colorado middle school are turned into sassy girl boss characters of color.

    –“South Park: Joining the Panderverse Teaser”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCi6aZb0GaA

    Which is great enough. But now Disney is threatening to sue Comedy Central, which hosts South Park for parody which is protected by the First Amendment.

    Disney is definitely losing it.

  17. BREAKING NEWS
    Mike Johnson of Louisiana is the newest House Speaker Designate.

    His first press conference posted here, he says the Rs are united.
    And the House makes his appointment official tomorrow.
    LOT’S of R-energy and applause is seen and heard in the video.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsNTnptH2Mo

    A new era of good feeling in the House?

  18. sdferr:

    You have the nub of the problem. Keeping the sappers safe long enough for them to do their work. Dig they must till Hamas is dust.

  19. More on Mike Johnson.

    The amiable Johnson, representing northwest Louisiana (Shreveport) in the House, was elected in 2016. He’s best known for serving as a senior attorney and spokesman for the Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF). This conservative non-profit group defends religious freedom and has a sterling record of success in the courts. He served on Trump’s defense team during both impeachment trials in the US Senate. Johnson was once touted by the execrable Gaetz for Speaker but declined. Johnson seems well-liked by his colleagues with a hard-working yet calm, intellectual demeanor and the smarts and skill to forge behind-the-scenes coalitions. His election as vice chair of the GOP Conference was unanimous.

    Johnson has never been seen as a “bomb thrower” but instead as a solid conservative who works well with others. He’s well-liked in conservative circles and is a member of the Freedom Caucus, as are other candidates. But he’s also largely unknown and without the national fundraising experience that comes from heading the NRCC.

  20. Miguel linked to an X-Twitter post by Luke Rosiak.
    It deserves amplification.
    These are the idiots presuming to teach our children — in a deeply conservative state.
    Shut down the public schools now.
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/tennessee-school-put-would-be-shooter-in-class-told-parents-to-become-left-wing-activists-if-they-objected-parents-say

    The URL covers the subject, but the entire story is terrifying in its revelations of duplicity and inanity, if not worse, by the principal and school board.

    Just months after three children were slaughtered at a Christian school in the state’s capital, a Tennessee public school district returned a student to the classroom who last year threatened to shoot up his school — putting him in close quarters with the students who had testified against him in court, a Daily Wire investigation found.

    Ninth graders at Giles County High School, in a rural community an hour south of Nashville, showed up for the new school year this August to find that the boy who sixteen months prior was arrested for his plan to shoot up their middle school had rejoined them in high school.

    About seven of them had testified against him in court last year, detailing how he had a list of students he intended to kill, had a date picked out, and was running drills to practice the act. Now he was back and, they believed, had an additional motive for carnage.

    When parents raised their concerns to the school district, it falsely stated that laws from the Republican-controlled statehouse were to blame for the situation. Parents say the school told them to become “activists” in the special session, where Democrats were pushing for gun control, if they had a problem with it.

    PS – My quibble about the picture used by Daily Wire and Rosiak, which is of the Covenant School mentioned in the first paragraph, but could imply to a skimming reader that it is the school at issue in the article, which it is not.
    It’s not just the NYT that lies by implication, and none of the media appear to be bothered by their laziness in not matching their pix to their stories.

    If the Daily Mail can get accurate pictures world-wide nearly immediately, our US media ought to be able to get pictures of US events reasonably quickly — OR at least don’t run a “fake but accurate” picture.

  21. Hmm. This should be interesting…
    “Female Detransitioner Sues American Academy of Pediatrics for Pushing Youth Gender Transition”—
    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/female-detransitioner-sues-american-academy-of-pediatrics-for-pushing-youth-gender-transition/
    Opening graf:
    “A 21-year-old female detransitioner who underwent hormone therapy as a teenager is suing the American Academy of Pediatrics for allegedly pushing youth gender transition and lying about the dangers of such medical interventions.…” [Emphasis mine; Barry M.]

  22. And the Conundrum of the Day(TM):
    “How Did Biden Manage To Lose $300 Billion?”—
    https://issuesinsights.com/2023/10/24/how-did-biden-manage-to-lose-300-billion-in-tax-revenues/
    H/T Powerline blog.

    I suppose there are several possibilities:
    1. You gotta pay all those extra IRA employees with SOMETHING.
    2. Ukraine really needs the money and “Biden” doesn’t want to publicize it because, looking out for the good of Americans (as usual), he doesn’t want anyone to get upset.
    3. Just more shrewd “Biden” accounting.
    4. “Bidenomics” is so incredibly successful that what’s a few hundred billion dollars here or there…
    5. Commander ate it (the REAL reason he was banished from the WH).
    6. Other….

  23. Barry M., 6. Other … The private sector is actually in recession, and the fact is masked by the government spending included in GDP. Although the suggestion that Commander ate it is appealing…

  24. OK, thanks.
    But mightn’t your explanation mean that the answer is #3?

    (BTW, “IRA” should be “IRS”…actually, maybe it SHOULD be “IRA”…)

  25. Miguel Cervantes
    I and many other people on the Internet refuse to click on naked link posts. Please tell us what the link is about and excerpt the relevant part of it. Otherwise you’re wasting your time posting them here.

  26. luttwak illustrating how hamas is about the caliphate, not about palestinian nationalism, it’s arguable how much fatah is about the latter, but they brand themselves as such,

  27. @ Bob Wilson – in general, I agree with your suggestion, especially since many of us read so widely it’s nice to be able to look at a link with a description and/or excerpt and realize I’ve already seen that post, or at least the same story.

    However, I’ve come to look at miguel’s “click-bait” links as being digital Cracker Jack boxes– you have to open one to find out what the prize is!

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