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Open thread 9/26/23 — 34 Comments

  1. Cool video, but if anybody cares, the music that accompanies it, a Kyrie from a mass setting, is definitely 16th century. Sounds like Palestrina.

  2. @Snow on Pine:See the latest from Peter Zeihan about why China’s XI might attack Taiwan,

    They can’t hide the concentration of shipping required. Literally everyone in the world would know months in advance it was coming. And all that concentrated shipping represents very expensive, helpless targets which can’t be replaced for years: provided the West has the will to do anything about it, which it may not have.

  3. Regarding Hunter Biden’s lawsuit against Giuliani over the laptop information. Perhaps this is an attempt to get the ” 10 % for the big guy” thrown out of a future case against the President?

  4. Melisande–

    I know it seems crazy but, as I “opined” a few days ago, and as Zeihan has also suggested, even though he knows he will loose–and with the knowledge of China’s soon to arrive demographic and economic collapse–XI might still attack Taiwan, in the belief that by doing so, and even after massive Chinese casualties, after the dust settles, the CCP will still be in charge of the much diminished China which will remain.

    The object here is the survival of the CCP, and it’s preeminent ruling position.

  5. @neo:

    Having gone through that I can attest it’s an absolute pain in the ass.

    Also: hence, squires. It *can* be done alone (some suits can’t) but you’re quadrupling your time.

    Despite jokes and rumors, full (non-jousting) armor doesn’t turn you into a turtle and beyond protection has uses.

    At Crispen, when the English decided to slaughter their captives they chose to ransom royalty- armored knights – instead. One Lord of some nature arrived at the battle late and not wanting to miss out charged on in not fully armored.

    Captured, not recognized as royalty, didn’t speak English, throat cut.

  6. Must be a diaper in there somewhere.
    How much labor went into making the chain mail and armor?
    Must have taken quite a while.
    I imagine after battle, less wealthy soldiers would strip the armor off the dead guys for themselves, or to sell.

  7. Fullmoon—If you believe what you read in historical fiction, stripping your dead enemies and looting the areas you passed through were perhaps the chief sources of soldiers pay in “days of yore.”

  8. Matt Taibbi on “stochastic terrorism”:

    Stochastic terrorism is… this idea that you can incite people to violence by saying things that are not specifically inciting but are statistically likely to create somebody who will do something violent even if it’s not individually predictable.

    That’s what they did with Trump. They basically invented this concept that yes, he may not have actually incited violence, but the whole totality of his persona is inciting, so we’re going to strike him. So they sort of massively expanded the purview of things they can censor, just in that one moment….

    That explains what we’ve been going through these last few years.

  9. Full Moon, Snow on Pine: stripping armor from enemy dead was a standard practice in antiquity. It is mentioned frequently in The Iliad for example. There were several reasons why it was done. One was for gain. A good quality suit of armor would have been an item that would have been comparable in cost to a luxury car today. Another was for glory. A warrior might wear a slain enemy’s armor as a way of proving his victory. Or in the Classical Period such armor might be dedicated to a temple. Thus thanking the god (or gods) for victory while advertising your city’s military might. And, of course, every set of armor taken in battle meant that there was one less potential armored enemy for you to fight tomorrow.

  10. The Canadian Parliament’s collective face is as red as the Maple Leaf Flag: “The speaker of Canada’s House of Commons resigned Tuesday for inviting a man who fought for a Nazi military unit during World War II to Parliament to attend a speech by the Ukrainian president.

    Just after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy delivered an address in the House of Commons on Friday, Canadian lawmakers gave 98-year-old Yaroslav Hunka a standing ovation when Speaker Anthony Rota drew attention to him. Rota introduced Hunka as a war hero who fought for the First Ukrainian Division.
    Observers over the weekend began to publicize the fact that the First Ukrainian Division also was known as the Waffen-SS Galicia Division, or the SS 14th Waffen Division, a voluntary unit that was under the command of the Nazis.

    . . . Members of Parliament from all parties rose to applaud Hunka on Friday unaware of the details of who he was. . . . Robert Bothwell, a historian and professor at the University of Toronto, called Rota clueless for waiting so long to step down. He said an apology from Trudeau is also justified. . . . ‘Trudeau doesn’t have the strongest image [ya think? –ed.] and this will cause other leaders to see him as damaged goods.’ [said Bothwell]”

    https://apnews.com/article/canada-house-speaker-nazi-invite-ukraine-zelenskyy-d4ca05841193409e455cee3b19fcee6b?taid=651320715c9b8c000140d317

  11. I cannot believe that the armorers of that day would not have exclusively used a “reef” (or “square”) knot, which is the sailor’s standard knot for joining two cords, and has been such for millennia.

    Every knot that I could trace in the video was a “granny” knot, the default way an untrained layman does it. The granny knot is rightly shunned by the professional, as unlike the reef knot, it is not easy to release in an emergency under strain.

  12. Zeihan says we “know” Xi is fed very little realistic information. He makes his decisions from inside a box. How do we “know” this?

    It appears Putin was grossly misled about the capability of the Russian army, its maintenance, training, supply situation prior to going to war. But, in for a penny, in for a pound and there was no way to get out.

    Or perhaps he knew but figured it was sufficient.

    If he had known, would he have delayed a year while purging the corrupt and making sure things were as they were supposed to be? Hire civilian mechanics, double shifts at, for one example, the tire factories. Have an independent source count the….any number of things.

    Or did he know but figured the gate was closing and he had to go as is?

    Point is, without evidence, we don’t KNOW Xi is in a bubble. Maybe he knows everything there is to know which is relevant but figures…now or never.

    Zeihan seems to thing China will get any functioning machines more complex than a cigarette machine. Not likely, and Xi must know that. You don’t beat pre-planned sabotage by the sabotage guy on staff by attacking up the beaches and spending three or four days getting to the industrial parks.

    I think of the time somebody, possibly Israel, snuck some software into Iranian nuke facilities causing the centrifuges to overspeed and blow themselves up. Come to think of it, that happened, without external encouragement, to some washing machines.
    Anybody know where that damn’ thumb drive went to? Have to use sledge hammers.

  13. Ps. The NYT has some use after all!

    The only thing I ever learned from the NYT is how to tie my shoes better than I learned as a child, and even then they got it only half right!

    A child seems to learn to first tie the laces one way (say right over left), and then when the first knot is tied, he doubles each lace and ties them again the same way. Try it.

    Now that’s a Granny knot. To get a proper Square or Reef knot, you do each of the two knots differently: right over left becomes left over right, or vice-versa.

    Being left handed, I learned to start right over left, double the laces, and then do right over left again. But it doesn’t matter which way you learned, the key is that you almost certainly do both the same way, and you get a Granny knot!

    The NYT helpfully published a piece on how to get a knot that never loosens – the Reef or Square knot! All you do is start the normal way for you, double the laces, and the tie these doubled laces the OPPOSITE WAY!

    Yay! It works, but it’s hard to do that second part, because you have trained most of your whole life to do the opposite!

    HERE’S THE SECRET THEY FORGOT TO MENTION. You see, part of the reason the second knot is so hard is because you are also working with a doubled-over pair of laces! So instead of doing that part “backward”, do the FIRST knot BACKWARD, and the SECOND knot NORMALLY!

    Whoa! That is about 5000 times easier, and you still get a strong slip-free knot! Once you get past putting the backward part first, it is so simple that it quickly becomes natural.

    This technique also helped me learn to tie a secure knot in bathrobes too, which has reduced the incidence of… oh well that’s TMI.

  14. RE: UFOs and Disclosure

    I am encouraged that there seems to be a growing tidal wave of popular interest in the UFO phenomenon (Ross Coulthart has said, for instance, that the number of viewers on his YouTube channel has quadrupled since his interview with whistleblower David Grusch, just a couple of months ago),* and that more and more serious people, for instance, Dr. Tim Gallaudett–a former Rear Admiral, who has a degree in Oceanography, and who is the former head of NOAA–are starting to acknowledge that the UFO Phenomenon is real, and are taking an interest in this Phenomenon, and taking concrete steps to investigate it.**

    I believe it is starting to dawn on some of the people who have formerly ridiculed this subject, and held back from investigating it that—if true—this is the most monumental, game-changing story that there has ever been—and that they would be well advised to start taking it seriously, and to start to investigate it, lest they be left standing on the platform, watching the UFO Phenomenon train recede into the distance.

    I realize that, over the last several decades, there have been many who thought that Disclosure would happen in their near future, only to ultimately be disappointed and, honestly, that might still be the case here.

    However, we are living in a different time than those of decades ago, popular culture has exposed people to and has accustomed them to the idea of Space travel, to UFOs, and to Aliens, moreover, millions of people–all over the world–have seen UFOs, and, then, there are things like the ever expanding list of discovered exoplanets, and the discoveries of the James Webb telescope, as it peers deeper and deeper into our Universe.

    Many people, who are aware, are starting to have a broader view of our place in the Galaxy and Universe, and are starting to realize just how many stars there are, how many of them likely have planets orbiting around them that might conceivably contain life—even intelligent life–and the immense, almost impossible to imagine and comprehend, age and size of our Galaxy, and the Universe.

    With so many trillions of planets for life to come into being and evolve on–with trillions of “experiments” on the creation of life which could have been conducted, and the immense amounts of time to conduct them in–the likelihood of us humans being alone in our vast Galaxy and the Universe is looking more and more remote.

    (For all we know, many thousands of intelligent Alien species, and many thousands of high civilizations, could have come and gone in that vast span of time, and current and active, space faring Alien civilizations could well still be “out there.”).

    Moreover, members of Congress have now apparently awakened to the fact that elements within our government have been lying to them for 80 or so years about the subject of UFOs, and these members are not happy, are crafting and passing tougher and tougher, increasingly specific “UFO” legislation, and are seeking an accounting.

    Thus, I have high hopes that some form of Disclosure will actually happen this time (Ross Coulthart is now even saying that he believes that some form of Disclosure will take place in the next 12 to 18 months).**

    Here’s hoping.

    See https://omny.fm/shows/neil-mitchell-asks-why/why-we-are-not-alone-with-ross-coulthart

    **See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzrxvnQCFtM

  15. P.S. Of course, there is “Disclosure” and, then, there is disclosure, and what the public may just get is the bare acknowledgement that, yes, the government has determined that there is some type of non human intelligence (NHI) directing the UFOs flying all over the Earth–and that is all–for now–that we will be told.

  16. Hello. Can I share my latest grammatical vexation?

    This malphrasing that I’m suddenly seeing lately in professional documents: “associate [something] to [something else]”. Why has this misconstruction taken off so much lately? It seems as if I only began seeing and hearing it this year, and just like that, I’m hearing it in many conference calls, meetings, and formal documents at work. Almost as if everyone somehow forgot that the proper preposition in that combination is ‘with’ and has been forever. Is there something in the water or what?

    Along with the various other little deformations in the details of English usage that I’ve noticed over the years, it’s rather like watching dry rot make its way through the furniture in one’s house over years.

    (Funnily enough, the document that I’m currently reading indeed uses both constructions in different sections!)

  17. VOTE FRAUD BY DEMOCRATS, breaking NEWS!

    First, via The Gateway Pundit, “Prominent pollster Rasmussen has decided that it cannot produce accurate polls on elections because of the massive amounts of voter fraud occurring in this country.”

    It also turns out that pollsters apply an adjustment to their surveys…because of Democrat vote fraud.

    But the top line story also comes from Rasmussen but in a post on X (Twitter). A FOIA document finds a worker doing the hand recount in Cobb Co., Georgia in mid-November, 2020.

    And the absentee ballots being counted there had to be fraudulent because they were in pristine condition and marked with inhumanly perfect ovals.

    The same notarised testimony claims that a different worker found similar phoney absentee ballots in Fulton, Co., Georgia.

    BOTH posted here
    https://noconsensus.wordpress.com/

    Finally, Just The News apparently followed up with FOIA requests about Michigan State Troopers’ investigations involving GBI Strategies, some months ago.

    But the FIB denied this request nearly three years after that occurred, claiming “ongoing investigations.”

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/fbi-denies-foia-request-docs-investigation-possible-nationwide-voter

  18. I have also changed how I tie my shoes, from granny to square knot! And I did it exactly as you describe, Van Dune – doing the first part “backwards.” It’s been a couple of months and it still feels weird, but I don’t have to double knot and my shoes are always easy to untie.

    On the subject of armor: as a teenager, I was in the Society for Creative Anachronism. There was a guy there at the meetings who would just make chainmail the entire time. Snip, twist, snip, twist. It seems to me that he was doing it pretty much the way it would have been done, using a pair of pliers with a cutting edge. (Of course, it was a point of pride among the dedicated SCA people to do things the way they would have been done.)

    Now, the time it took to make the thick wire (especially back in the day), I couldn’t say – but the production of the mail itself was quite time-consuming enough. Knitting is lots and lots faster. But this guy would finish probably a square foot or so per meeting, if memory serves.

  19. When I was a small child, and uncle visited and taught me to tie a square knot with my shoelaces: right over left, left over right. (Or left, then right.) I always get a square knot and I don’t do that double the laces bit.

  20. Add me to the list of neo readers who learned the Van Dune method of shoelace tying. One of my kids taught me, about ten years ago. It took a year or more for that first (now reversed) knot to feel comfortable, but now it’s old hat.

    And my laces stay tied!

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