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Open thread 9/18/23 — 41 Comments

  1. When I was a kid, I used to believe that color sky could only be seen from my Grandparent’s back porch. I thought that was a magical place.
    It was, for different reasons.

  2. A discussion of the Megyn Kelly interview with Trump; what she asked, what she didn’t ask, and how Trump is not correctly remembering what he did about COVID.

    https://brownstone.org/articles/megyn-kelly-asks-trump-a-few-hard-questions/

    I give him full credit for getting production of ventilators, which turned out not to be necessary (although we didn’t know that at the time), and for Operation Warp Speed, which produced the mRNA shots very quickly. These were administrative successes, based on what medical authorities told him would work. But he also pushed lockdowns and signed legislation which paid people for not working for what ended up being a year or two in many states, with disastrous economic and health results.

  3. I agree Kate. DeSantis’ performance ala COVID was much better that Trump. Just listening to Birx and Fauci was a huge error and cost the country dearly. If he is the nominee, I’ll hold my nose and vote for him, but I really hope the GOP comes to its senses and picks someone else. Doesn’t look like it’s happening though.

  4. Kate:

    I’m not sentimental about Trump and I do despise his bullying and at times dishonesty.

    However, he had been working so hard to get American going again during continuous vicious dishonest impeachment attempts and by 2020 in the face of a difficult election year. Covid was the very last thing he needed to deal with. It was dangerous, unprecedented and enormously tricky to handle in an election year.

    I can imagine the pressure he felt to go along with the advice of medical authorities, not just in America but globally.

    So I’ve been inclined to give Trump the benefit of the doubt on Covid. Though not his current efforts to rationalize and counterattack.

  5. Kate & physicsguy; I agree with you but….

    “You go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time.”
    ? Donald Rumsfeld

    Trump is a true Warrior.

    I wish there was an other….but who?

  6. There are some things wiki is good for:
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    Red sky at night, sailors’ delight.
    Red sky at morning, sailors take warning.

    The concept is over two thousand years old and is cited in the New Testament as established wisdom that prevailed among the Jews of the 1st century AD by Jesus in Matthew 16:2-3….

    Because of different prevailing wind patterns around the globe, the traditional rhyme is generally not correct at lower latitudes of both hemispheres, where prevailing winds are from east to west. The rhyme is generally correct at middle latitudes where, due to the rotation of the Earth, prevailing winds travel west to east.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_sky_at_morning

  7. For those curious:
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    [Jesus] answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red. And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?

    Matthew 16:2-3 KJV

  8. …updated in 1965 by Bob Dylan….
    (The fifth evangelist?)

    – – – – –
    BTW, loved that octopus clip…

  9. A column in Truth Telling asks “What does ‘far right’ even mean anymore?”
    It means anything dissident towards the PC approved narratives.

    This has been profoundly corrupting, obviously intending to give the far-Left room to rule without restraint.

    Would that more opined on this. Here’s how Mark Jeftovic begins:

    “ If it wasn’t apparent already, it became obvious during the pandemic how establishment narratives are promulgated by corporate media cartels to enshrine elite-approved canon. For that to work, it was key to neutralize non-conforming impulses, and the way to do that, it seemed, was to label it all as ‘far right’.

    “The term has now been so misplaced and over-used that it becomes impossible to differentiate between fast rising maverick politicians from skinheads with swastika tattoos. Make no mistake, this is deliberate.”

    MORE AT
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/what-does-far-right-even-mean-anymore

  10. Re: Far-right, what does it mean?

    TJ:

    I see that constantly in the “Easy French News” which I read every morning.

    I now have two countries to mourn for.

  11. Xylourgos:

    If you look at DeSantis’ actual history rather than the lies his opponents tell about him, he’s most definitely a true warrior. You may prefer Trump for any number of reasons – one of them is that possibly Trump would appeal more to black men or to blue collar workers in Michigan or whatever – but not because he’s the only true warrior around. He’s not.

  12. Xylourgos on September 18, 2023 at 1:56 pm said:
    “Trump is a true Warrior. I wish there was an other….but who?”

    You must use an expanded definition of warrior when referring to Trump. Although Trump received numerous military deferrals during Vietnam, he told a biographer; “(I)always felt that I was in the military” because of his education at a military-themed boarding school.

    BTW, in researching the accuracy of the quote in my response I read for the first time that Trump was pulled out of his private school and sent to the rather hard nosed military school because of his incessant bullying of younger, more vulnerable students; and his father was fed up with dealing with disciplinary reports from the school. I have no way of verifying that assertion. Given his observable adult behavior, it does have the ring of truth; doesn’t it?

    To refresh your memory. DeSantis did serve in the military; and he was in Falluhah, the hottest part of the Iraq war zone. And yes, I know that he was there as a legal advisor to the Seals. As far as getting his agenda enacted, he has also proven to be a more effective political “warrior” than Trump was.

  13. Photo is majestic…my youngest has taken to shooting sunset photos. If there’s less than 1000 on her phone I’d be surprised.

    Some are exquisite. “Gotta shoot a few torpedoes” I guess. 😉

  14. Addendum to my remarks on DeSantis and his service.
    Found these quotes from Captain Dane Thorleifson, USN, Seal Commander, Special Operations Task Force-West, Fallujah:

    “I respected him a lot as a JAG. He was super smart, articulate, resourceful and a positive part of the staff,” Thorleifson told the Tampa Bay Times. “I relied on him heavily.”

    At times, DeSantis also had to work hand in hand with the newly stood-up Iraqi judicial system, Thorleifson said. That meant DeSantis would sometimes hand detainees off to Iraqi officials for prosecution.

    “He did a phenomenal job,” Thorleifson said. “It was a pretty complex time, with Iraqi sovereignty starting to take hold.”

  15. Whew, Snow on Pine, for a moment I thought you meant it was a Catholic church hosting a drag Sunday. It was a United Church of Christ. Most of those congregations are far-left and not noticeably Christian.

  16. Re: Fetterman

    Is Fetterman using a body double?

    Take a look at the two side by side pictures in the linked article, each supposed to be Fetterman.*

    I was trained in doing pencil portraiture, and you’re supposed to very carefully notice all sorts of facial features, and how they relate to each other.

    The supposed picture of Fetterman on the right looks to me like a younger, different person–notice, in particular, the differing shapes of the noses and the distance between the end of the nose and mouth, eyebrow placement, width of the eyes, width of each cranium, length of each jaw, ear shape and placement with reference to the head, and overall head shape–it looks to me like a close match but, on closer inspection, not Fetterman, I think it’s a different guy.

    * See https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/slob-fetterman-dunks-mtg-showing-ding-ling-pics/

  17. Kate–

    Sorry, my mistake, I looked at the church interior architecture and the vestments and assumed it was a Catholic service and church.

    Should have done a closer read of the article, but I was so immediately pissed by what I saw.

    There’s a lesson for me there.

  18. Chuck… looks like a Border Collie.
    Blessed smart animals. You should see a well-trained pair work sheep. Mind boggling.

  19. Kate & Snow on Pine…The DFW metroplex is home to an inordinate number of TV “Evangelists,” megachurches, many faithful expressions of Christianity, the Church of Free Thought AND Cathedral of Hope…the UCC operation in the article.

    They dress up & perform in what could easily be a former Roman Catholic Cathedral or reasonable reproduction thereof. When we lived there I never visited but heard a bunch. They use lots of the symbols but none of the truth. Tragic really. “Affirming” people to their deaths…both physical and spiritual.

  20. Most of those congregations are far-left and not noticeably Christian.

    Kate:

    I love this kind of understatement. The Greeks had a word for it:
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    In rhetoric, litotes … is a figure of speech and form of verbal irony in which understatement is used to emphasize a point by stating a negative to further affirm a positive, often incorporating double negatives for effect.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litotes

  21. @Snow on Pine, 4:45 pm:

    “it looks to me like a close match but, on closer inspection, not Fetterman, I think it’s a different guy.”

    It looks to me like two totally different guys: cranium, F’s ears stick out, noses are different, space between eyes different, eyebrows different, F’s head is larger on top, etc.

  22. I’m delighted to amuse you, huxley. 🙂 I have read that in rural areas there are still a few UCC churches, formerly Congregational, who still practice Christianity, so I didn’t want to claim they’re all pagans.

  23. Kate:

    Retour à vous!

    When you got up this morning, did you realize you were going to commit an act of litotes? 🙂

    I don’t know where I am as a Christian, but I’m pretty sure these leftie Churchianity Christians are in the wading pool.

    If that’s where they are, it’s a good place to be, but it gets deeper.

  24. Sunsets: we have had many marvelous red or orange sunsets (earth eclipsings) on our lakefront property over the years, comparable to your photo, plus a few that truly rival “on golden pond” in goldenness. No reason to move these last 30+ years.

    Many years ago the wife also saw one on a 5 acre parcel on the river that “we had to buy”; red in the gap between the clouds above and the river below. But we never saw that coloration ever again.

    Snow on Pine: I saw Texas and thought “oh, a church service coupled to a drag race for some reason” 🙂

    On Fetterman photos: agree man on right looks different; but the photo angle, lighting, and resolution levels might account for it. Still, crooked nose and ears seem most striking differences, along with egg vs. ball head shape. Even the beard shaping and color is off a little.

  25. P.S. I read somewhere that an enormous amount of the brain’s capacity is devoted to facial recognition, useful perhaps in the remote past, to identify and remember who is part of your particular tribe, or perhaps to identify who the Neanderthals are.

    I always forget names–even more so as I get older–but I very rarely forget a face.

    I also have this weird thing where, when I look at some people, often younger people, I can often get a flash, an image of what they will look like when they are much older.

  26. Well as long as he identifies as a Fetterman who are you going to believe? After all, DNA isn’t dispositive regarding sex or gender so how can you prove it is a double? Trust science!

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