Trump’s arrest and the black voter
Trump’s arrest and mug shot in Georgia got me wondering whether black voters – who vote overwhelmingly Democrat – might not be a bit sympathetic to him because of the element of persecution by prosecutors. I think it’s always a bad idea to think that the Democrats will lose a significant portion of the black vote, which is ordinarily overwhelmingly and solidly Democratic. But in the 2020 election the percentage of black men voting for Trump increased somewhat, part of a small trend away from the Democratic Party among that demographic that’s been going on for a while.
I see that commenter “Jerry” wrote:
A bright point: the evening after the mug shot was released one of the news channels was getting reactions. One interviewee was a black, early middle aged man.
“Donald Trump is now officially a Brother!”. Said with obvious positive feeling. I’ve seen similar reactions elsewhere.
What a friggin hoot it will be if Fanni Willis just handed the black vote to Trump!
Well, certainly not the black vote in terms of a majority of black people. But any inroads in that particular demographic would weaken the Democrats.
I also noticed this story, which hasn’t gotten a lot of traction so far – perhaps because the MSM and the Democrats don’t want it to:
One of Donald Trump’s co-defendants in a wide-ranging election-fraud case in Georgia remained behind bars on Friday, after he told a judge that he could not afford a private attorney to represent him and was denied bond.
Harrison Floyd said at his first court appearance that he could not afford a private lawyer and had been denied representation by a public defender because he did not qualify.
Who is Harrison Floyd? If you look at his mugshot at the link, you’ll see that he’s a black man. If you read this article, you’ll see that he was head of something called Black Voices For Trump. Interesting. He’s also a Marine veteran.
What are the accusations against Floyd?:
According to the indictment, Floyd pressured Ruby Freeman, an election worker in Fulton County, after she refused to change the results of the county’s vote in the 2020 election for Trump, with Freeman testifying before the House January 6 Committee last year that she was forced to leave her home for two months and quit her job after receiving threats after the election. …
Floyd had been charged in a separate case in May with second-degree assault and arrested for allegedly attacking an FBI agent who had served him a grand jury subpoena in the Department of Justice’s investigation into efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election.
I’ve read quite a few articles about Floyd since I first heard about his involvement, and I have yet to read a single detail of the exact pressure Floyd is alleged to have exerted on the worker, as opposed to threats she received from other people. I would be curious to know what he is supposed to have done vis a vis the worker; it’s certainly possible it was quite bad and it’s very possible it was not.
The article has this to say about Floyd’s attack on the FBI agent:
According to a complaint in federal District Court in Maryland, Floyd refused to accept the subpoena, putting his finger to the face of one of two FBI agents who arrived at his residence, yelling: “You haven’t given me anything; I don’t know who the f**k you are.”
Later that night, Floyed called 911, accusing the agents of accosting him and saying: “They were lucky I didn’t have a gun on me, because I would have shot his fucking ass,” the Huffington Post reported.
Did he know who they were or why they were there? Why did they need to serve the subpoena that way? Isn’t it usually – in former years, anyway – done through lawyers, for non-violent offenders?
More here:
… [T]he agents first reached Floyd by phone as they stood outside his apartment building in Rockville, over 20 miles northwest of Washington, according to court records. The agents told Floyd they had a subpoena to serve him, and Floyd told them he wasn’t home.
When Floyd returned home with his daughter, he brushed past the agents without taking the subpoena being held out to him, according to a May 3 affidavit by FBI agent Dennis McGrail. It says the agents followed Floyd inside the building and up several flights of stairs.
“Bro, I don’t even know who you are,” Floyd told the agents, according to McGrail’s affidavit, which says the agents made an audio recording of the encounter. “You’re two random guys who are following me up here, into my house, with my daughter. You’re not showing me a (expletive) badge, you haven’t shown me (expletive). Get the (expletive) away from me.”
As Floyd slammed his apartment door shut, one of the agents wedged the subpoena between the door and its frame, the affidavit says.
The agents were heading down the stairs when they saw Floyd rushing toward them, screaming expletives, the affidavit says.
Floyd ran into one of the agents in the stairwell, “striking him chest to chest” and knocking him backward, the affidavit says. Then he chest-bumped the same agent again, ignoring commands to back away. Instead, Floyd began jabbing a finger in the agent’s face as he kept screaming.
The affidavit says Floyd only backed down when the second agent showed Floyd his badge and holstered gun.
Floyd returned to his apartment and called 911 to report that two men had threatened him at his home, one of them armed with a gun.
“They were lucky I didn’t have a gun on me, because I would have shot his (expletive) ass,” Floyd told a dispatcher, according to the FBI agent’s affidavit.
Floyd told Rockville police officers dispatched to his apartment that he didn’t know who the men were. He told them his mother-in-law had called earlier in the day saying two men showed up at her home wanting to talk with him. The affidavit says he showed the officers a text message his mother-in-law had sent of the men’s business cards, which identified them as FBI agents.
Sounds to me like Floyd really wasn’t aware that the men were agents, and was suspicious of them. He also was with his daughter and perhaps extra protective for that reason – how old is she? Obviously, if he had known they were actually from the FBI, he had to have known that his behavior would get him into more trouble than he was already in. It also seems to me that, had he known who they were, he wouldn’t have called 911 complaining.
At any rate, that’s the story so far. Make of it what you will.
ADDENDUM:
On Saturday morning, a legal fundraiser for Floyd, hosted on crowdfunding site GiveSendGo, exceeded $100,000 out of a target of $200,000. As of 12:00 p.m. ET, some $118,592 had been given by 2,554 donors. In an update, Dominion Law Center, which is running the crowd funder, said it plans to go before a judge on Monday in a bid to secure bail for Floyd.
It said: “Yesterday, at Harrison’s initial hearing where no lawyer was present, the judge denied bond because she said he was a flight risk. We do not believe the judge was correct because Harrison voluntarily traveled from Maryland to Georgia to turn himself in. We will be filing pleadings on Monday to rectify this situation in front of the assigned judge, Judge Scott McAfee.” …
According to federal court records reported by The Associated Press, Floyd first appeared before a judge in this case on May 15, after which he was required to surrender his passport. Floyd insists he didn’t realize the two men were FBI agents, and denies any wrongdoing.
As I said before, I think the content of Floyd’s 911 call is evidence he really didn’t think they were FBI agents.
The Fibbies are going to have to be more and more correct. Local juries are going to be more sympathetic to claims that they did not identify clearly and up front, and that their subsequent actions could easily be taken as a threat.
Whatever happens in the encounter, their reputation precedes them into the courtroom.
I don’t know, either, but it’s a bad look all around that the only defendant who’s in jail is a black man. Bad for law enforcement, and I’m also not thrilled that he is apparently without support from the Trump camp.
Kate:
I also thought about why isn’t Trump helping him, and I think – although I’m not sure – that he wasn’t connected with that group and they don’t really even know him, plus his lack of bail and imprisonment was a surprise and unexpected. Also, his possible assault of the FBI agents complicates things for him and makes him less of a purely political persecution, although I find his story sympathetic so far.
I’m adding an addendum to the post about something I just found.
Good to know support is happening.
He is being punished for going off reservation.
https://spectator.org/an-inconvenient-trump-republicans-are-living-an-enormous-lie/
The Eff Bee Eye has no credibility left to me, not sure would believe anything they say without proof. Even if body cameras would want professional to see if any stop and starts in it.
Doesn’t the government have the 19 stopping from even contacting each other. I have no idea.
Slightly ‘off toplic’, could happen to anyone.
https://thepostmillennial.com/disabled-vet-dead-after-fbi-swats-tennessee-home-family-seeks-answers
not this carp again
https://meaninginhistory.substack.com/p/cia-prepping-for-russia-hoax-20
The dominant strain of black culture is badly broken. People like that naturally gravitate to the Democratic Party. If their ballots are even cast, it’s now often done by party activists who harvest black ballots. Sometimes the voters are paid, sometimes ballots are manufactured or duplicated, but often it’s all done within the law.
Maybe next time there will be a few more rebellious black conservatives who vote against the grain, but no big political changes will happen until black culture changes. Instead, white culture will become increasingly corrupted.
For now anyway, it’s a race to the bottom.
Law of unintended consequences:
Craig Scott of McKain Entertainment Network is a formerly incarcerated actor, militant activist and filmmaker.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-released-me-prison-under-first-step-act-he-has-even-more-street-cred-now-opinion-1822458
Clark admits that he did the crime, but thinks the time (52 years) was disproportionate to the offense. Given that today, in a Democrat city, he wouldn’t even have been charged, he may have a point.
I couldn’t find out anything useful about the firm sponsoring Floyd’s GiveSendGo, but that it gathered donations so rapidly argues the people who work there most likely have connections in the black community.
And please note we now have to specify whether an observation is about George Floyd or Harrison Floyd.
Sometimes I think God sublets some of His work to Karma.
This Newsweek writer has a fundamental misunderstanding of how bail procedures work, or is deliberately obfuscating.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-uses-bail-bondsman-georgia-alarm-bells-finances-1822417
Nobody pays their own bail in full, even knowing they will get it back when they show up in court, as Trump most certainly intends to do.
The bondsmen know that also, and they charge fees relative to the flight risk of their client (and they know how to calculate that or they don’t stay in business very long).
Trump’s money is undoubtedly invested in ways that make more than the fees he will pay on the short-term loan for his bail.
https://www.wikihow.com/Understand-How-Bail-Bonds-Work
Maybe there’s plenty of precedence for it, but it seems unorthodox that FBI agents would be used for this purpose. It strikes me that the plan may have been create an infraction against FBI agents which can be more serious than for anyone else.
At this point, I wouldn’t give an FBI agent the time of day.
I received an email from President Trump that is powerful and should be spread far and wide as it deals directly what the Black community faces in Atlanta. If the former President will stay on point, it’s messages like this that show he is still the right person for the job:
While I was being arrested, I got a firsthand look at the poor and disgraceful conditions of the Fulton County Jail.
It’s worse than you could even imagine.
It’s violent. The building is falling apart. Inmates have dug their fingers into the crumbling walls and ripped out chunks to fashion over 1,000 shanks.
Just this year alone, 7 inmates have died in that jail.
And beyond the crumbling walls of the jail, the streets of Atlanta are far more dangerous than Chicago’s.
Seeing the third world state of that jail made me even more determined to run for President and save our country from permanent decline.
It reinforced that I can NEVER – under any circumstances – GIVE UP on our mission to save America. The Silent Majority needs us to win.
Our elected officials do not care that our nation is crumbling to pieces.
Think about it: Democrats just arrested an innocent man – all while real criminals are terrorizing innocent families all across Atlanta.
Instead of working to fix inflation, repair our dilapidated infrastructure, secure our southern border, and clean up our neighborhoods, Crooked Joe has ordered the federal government to use all of its manpower on trying to illegally imprison me for the rest of my life.
I know in my heart that Americans of all walks of life are ready for a President who puts the needs and priorities of our law-abiding, legal citizens first.
And very soon, you WILL have that President once again. ??
If you are doing poorly due to these very bad people who are letting America burn to the ground, then please don’t donate.
I wonder if the Democrats expected any of this.
They (the leadership now) aren’t really attuned to the people they profess to champion.
https://americanwirenews.com/the-hood-is-waking-up-did-trumps-black-support-just-skyrocket-overnight/
Similarly, note the backlash (almost whiplash – the car accident kind) over Trump’s mug shot.
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2023/08/26/trump-lawyer-rains-on-leftist-parades-mugshot-one-of-the-best-things-that-ever-happened-to-him-1390426/
@ Brian E Trump – “If you are doing poorly due to these very bad people who are letting America burn to the ground, then please don’t donate.”
Trump doesn’t write this kind of email, his staffers do (all politicians staffers do these), but I suspect it is referencing this from Biden Inc:
https://americanwirenews.com/biden-pummeled-for-attempt-to-fundraise-on-trump-arrest-date-totally-not-a-political-prosecution/
He showed his love and he didn’t stop.
Enough said, but will those guys vote, and how will their votes be counted?
Meanwhile, Harrison Floyd’s legal fund is over its target goal. He’ll need more.
Doesn’t matter. He went against the rules. You can not stand for Donald J Trump in this country or you will go to the gulag. This is our future, because nobody is doing anything to stop the New Gestapo.
MAGA poetry: “Some say he’s racist and tweets like a kid, while overlooking all the good sh-t that he did. I ain’t ashamed of my president a little bit, I’d rather have an alpha male than a little bitch!” https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1695808576466325973
Trump mugshot mural in Atlanta. The Democrats have made Trump a legend. https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1695812365722198075
Well, Governor… this is what folks have been saying for . . . awhile:
CAUGHT ON VIDEO… Brian Kemp Tells GA Voters: “If You Give Anybody a Voting Machine They Can Hack It”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/huge-caught-video-brian-kemp-tells-ga-voters/
My favorite Trump mug shot post.
https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-pays-12-extra-to-get-the-cool-laser-background-mugshot
Barry linked this on the Giuliani post, but I want to copy it here just for the record.
(serious language warning, so no excerpts)
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/more-you-indict-more-we-unite-black-social-media-erupts-trump
Looks to me like Trump’s 2016 challenge to the black community finally bore fruit.
“What the hell do you have to lose?”
https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/08/20/trump-to-blacks-what-the-hell-have-you-got-to-lose.cnn
OCD note: even with the video playing, the CNN chyron and headline writers didn’t quote exactly what Trump said.
The Atlantic, not surprisingly, is giving “context” to dismiss Trump’s motives (I don’t agree with them), but they were actually unwittingly prophetic.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/trump-time-capsule-81-what-the-hell-do-you-have-to-lose/623310/