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  1. The Fibbies are going to have to be more and more correct. Local juries are going to be more sympathetic to claims that they did not identify clearly and up front, and that their subsequent actions could easily be taken as a threat.
    Whatever happens in the encounter, their reputation precedes them into the courtroom.

  2. I don’t know, either, but it’s a bad look all around that the only defendant who’s in jail is a black man. Bad for law enforcement, and I’m also not thrilled that he is apparently without support from the Trump camp.

  3. Kate:

    I also thought about why isn’t Trump helping him, and I think – although I’m not sure – that he wasn’t connected with that group and they don’t really even know him, plus his lack of bail and imprisonment was a surprise and unexpected. Also, his possible assault of the FBI agents complicates things for him and makes him less of a purely political persecution, although I find his story sympathetic so far.

    I’m adding an addendum to the post about something I just found.

  4. The Eff Bee Eye has no credibility left to me, not sure would believe anything they say without proof. Even if body cameras would want professional to see if any stop and starts in it.
    Doesn’t the government have the 19 stopping from even contacting each other. I have no idea.

  5. The dominant strain of black culture is badly broken. People like that naturally gravitate to the Democratic Party. If their ballots are even cast, it’s now often done by party activists who harvest black ballots. Sometimes the voters are paid, sometimes ballots are manufactured or duplicated, but often it’s all done within the law.

    Maybe next time there will be a few more rebellious black conservatives who vote against the grain, but no big political changes will happen until black culture changes. Instead, white culture will become increasingly corrupted.

    For now anyway, it’s a race to the bottom.

  6. Law of unintended consequences:
    Craig Scott of McKain Entertainment Network is a formerly incarcerated actor, militant activist and filmmaker.

    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-released-me-prison-under-first-step-act-he-has-even-more-street-cred-now-opinion-1822458

    In the early ’90s, I was a militant activist and bank robber. I saw myself as a Black Robin Hood, stealing from white-owned banks to fund Black cultural events. I was caught and sentenced under then-Senator Joe Biden’s 1994 crime bill to an unheard of 52 years, though I was a first time offender and no one was hurt during any of my robberies. And I was released by Trump’s 2019 criminal justice reform bill, the First Step Act, thanks to Trump’s prodding of Congress to reverse many of the draconian laws written and supported by our current president.

    The former president freed 5,000 incarcerated people like me from outrageous sentences. Yet he is now facing the possibility of serving a sentence of his own. As I watched former President Donald Trump get perp-walked and mug shot at the Fulton County Jail in Georgia, I couldn’t help but notice the deep irony: The same criminal justice system that Trump made radical reforms to is now being used to discredit him and hamper his chances of winning the presidency for a second time.

    None of us who have benefited from Trump’s radical reform of the criminal justice system under the First Step Act are blind to that irony.
    ..
    Having experienced being arrested and booked, I can tell you there’s no such thing as a good looking mug shot. Seeing Trump’s has an especially impactful meaning to people like myself, formerly incarcerated individuals who languished under disproportionately harsh sentences.

    Many critics of Trump interpret his arrests as proof that he is unsuitable to return to the White House. But to my eyes, as I still struggle to repair my life from the damage of serving an unjust sentence, this is evidence that he may be just the right person for the job.

    He’s literally been in my shoes. No other president can brag on that. And believe me, he will brag about it. Such boasting will not fall on deaf ears.

    Clark admits that he did the crime, but thinks the time (52 years) was disproportionate to the offense. Given that today, in a Democrat city, he wouldn’t even have been charged, he may have a point.

    I couldn’t find out anything useful about the firm sponsoring Floyd’s GiveSendGo, but that it gathered donations so rapidly argues the people who work there most likely have connections in the black community.

    And please note we now have to specify whether an observation is about George Floyd or Harrison Floyd.

    Sometimes I think God sublets some of His work to Karma.

  7. This Newsweek writer has a fundamental misunderstanding of how bail procedures work, or is deliberately obfuscating.

    https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-uses-bail-bondsman-georgia-alarm-bells-finances-1822417

    Nobody pays their own bail in full, even knowing they will get it back when they show up in court, as Trump most certainly intends to do.
    The bondsmen know that also, and they charge fees relative to the flight risk of their client (and they know how to calculate that or they don’t stay in business very long).
    Trump’s money is undoubtedly invested in ways that make more than the fees he will pay on the short-term loan for his bail.

    https://www.wikihow.com/Understand-How-Bail-Bonds-Work

  8. Maybe there’s plenty of precedence for it, but it seems unorthodox that FBI agents would be used for this purpose. It strikes me that the plan may have been create an infraction against FBI agents which can be more serious than for anyone else.

    At this point, I wouldn’t give an FBI agent the time of day.

  9. I received an email from President Trump that is powerful and should be spread far and wide as it deals directly what the Black community faces in Atlanta. If the former President will stay on point, it’s messages like this that show he is still the right person for the job:

    While I was being arrested, I got a firsthand look at the poor and disgraceful conditions of the Fulton County Jail.

    It’s worse than you could even imagine.

    It’s violent. The building is falling apart. Inmates have dug their fingers into the crumbling walls and ripped out chunks to fashion over 1,000 shanks.

    Just this year alone, 7 inmates have died in that jail.

    And beyond the crumbling walls of the jail, the streets of Atlanta are far more dangerous than Chicago’s.

    Seeing the third world state of that jail made me even more determined to run for President and save our country from permanent decline.

    It reinforced that I can NEVER – under any circumstances – GIVE UP on our mission to save America. The Silent Majority needs us to win.

    Our elected officials do not care that our nation is crumbling to pieces.

    Think about it: Democrats just arrested an innocent man – all while real criminals are terrorizing innocent families all across Atlanta.

    Instead of working to fix inflation, repair our dilapidated infrastructure, secure our southern border, and clean up our neighborhoods, Crooked Joe has ordered the federal government to use all of its manpower on trying to illegally imprison me for the rest of my life.

    I know in my heart that Americans of all walks of life are ready for a President who puts the needs and priorities of our law-abiding, legal citizens first.

    And very soon, you WILL have that President once again. ??

    If you are doing poorly due to these very bad people who are letting America burn to the ground, then please don’t donate.

  10. I wonder if the Democrats expected any of this.
    They (the leadership now) aren’t really attuned to the people they profess to champion.

    https://americanwirenews.com/the-hood-is-waking-up-did-trumps-black-support-just-skyrocket-overnight/

    Others were all-in for Trump.

    “I don’t believe half of the stuff they are saying about Trump,” Dorthy Harp, a black Trump supporter, declared according to Atlanta Daily World. “Why are they always trying to attack the man? It’s because he wants to run for president again.”

    That’s because they’re treating Trump the same way they treat all of us citizens. He’s literally showing the world what our corrupt criminal government does on the daily to thousands of people.— Atom (@Autolock)

    “Racketeering is about stealing money and stuff like that. That makes no sense,” west Cobb County resident Jerry Ramsey, told the Missouri Independent, citing legal experts who have appeared on Fox News. “If you show me that some real crime was committed, then I might change my mind. But I have seen no real crime.”

    Members of the black Trump group were also joined by self-proclaimed Mayor of Magaville rapper Forgiato Blow and others for an impromptu jam session featuring songs like Blow’s “Trump Saved the USA.”

    Stoking the fire is the fact that one of Trump’s 18 indicted co-defendants is Harrison William Prescott Floyd, a member of “Black Voices for Trump,” and reportedly the only defendant now sitting in jail without bail according to CBS News Atlanta. Not a good look for authorities.

    Similarly, note the backlash (almost whiplash – the car accident kind) over Trump’s mug shot.

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2023/08/26/trump-lawyer-rains-on-leftist-parades-mugshot-one-of-the-best-things-that-ever-happened-to-him-1390426/

    Alina Habba — “Them saying something like we need a mugshot. What’s the purpose of a mug shot? The mug shot is so that you know what somebody looks like in case they’re a flight risk. The man is supervised by Secret Service … Where is he going and who isn’t recognizing him?”

  11. @ Brian E Trump – “If you are doing poorly due to these very bad people who are letting America burn to the ground, then please don’t donate.

    Trump doesn’t write this kind of email, his staffers do (all politicians staffers do these), but I suspect it is referencing this from Biden Inc:

    https://americanwirenews.com/biden-pummeled-for-attempt-to-fundraise-on-trump-arrest-date-totally-not-a-political-prosecution/

    Apropos of nothing, I think today’s a great day to give to my campaign. https://t.co/Tj5cURqgQT

    — Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) August 24, 2023

  12. Doesn’t matter. He went against the rules. You can not stand for Donald J Trump in this country or you will go to the gulag. This is our future, because nobody is doing anything to stop the New Gestapo.

  13. Barry linked this on the Giuliani post, but I want to copy it here just for the record.
    (serious language warning, so no excerpts)

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/more-you-indict-more-we-unite-black-social-media-erupts-trump

    Looks to me like Trump’s 2016 challenge to the black community finally bore fruit.
    “What the hell do you have to lose?”

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/08/20/trump-to-blacks-what-the-hell-have-you-got-to-lose.cnn

    OCD note: even with the video playing, the CNN chyron and headline writers didn’t quote exactly what Trump said.

    The Atlantic, not surprisingly, is giving “context” to dismiss Trump’s motives (I don’t agree with them), but they were actually unwittingly prophetic.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/trump-time-capsule-81-what-the-hell-do-you-have-to-lose/623310/

    Trump rounds out this appeal by saying that if he’s elected, he’ll get 95% black support for his re-election. “I guarantee it!” This will probably end up being classified in the “sarcastic” bin, given that not even Barack Obama got that large a share of the black vote in his re-election run. He got about 93% in 2012; Trump right now is running between 1% and 3% black support, depending on the polls.

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