I was thinking that 20 years ago the concept of two ultra-billinaires fighting in a cage match might have been an absurd concept for an episode of South Park or MTV’s Celebrity Deathmatch.
But then I also remembered we’re living in a time were a former president who is a garish billionaire and reality TV star is being lawlessly prosecuted by a deeply and brazenly corrupt current president with his justice department, and half the country being essentially OK with it. Not to mention the endless parade of other absurdities that have been presented to us day after day for years now. Such as
– legalized and celebrated child mutilations
– brave retail employees in large cities attempting to stop shoplifters often being fired and even prosecuted by the state
– obvious and well documented presidential corruption in the form of bribary from foreign advisorial powers that is ignored or downplayed by the media
– reams of evidence of federal government officials instructing and colluding with large social media companies to supress the free speech rights of American citizens without consequence
And these are just the absurdities at the top of my mind. Glenn Reynold’s has argued we’re living in Heinlein’s “crazy years”. Maybe so. At any rate, I wonder if things will become even more insane in the coming months and years. Just how deranged can a civilization become? And is the apparent apathy of so many of our fellow Amercans a function of a lack of awareness or simple misapprehension or self delusion?
RE: UFOs –What impact would Disclosure actually have?
My assumption up until now has been that, if we were to be given an official, definitive acknowledgment/proof that Aliens exist and were, in fact, the beings directing many of the UFOs flying around in our skies, the knowledge that “we are not alone,” would have an enormous and profound impact on every aspect of the identity, thoughts, and lives of every human individual, on human civilization in general; an “ontological shock” which would change everything.
But in light of the example of current politics—that despite the ever increasing mountain of evidence of the utter corruption of President Joe Biden, and no matter what the quality and volume of this evidence might be, the millions of dollars transferred to the Biden’s 20 shell companies and accounts by foreign leaders and businessmen– apparently somewhere around 50% of the populace here in the U.S. has simply ignored and/or discounted this evidence–started me wondering.
Thus, would the fact that “we are not alone” even penetrate many people’s minds, and would many people even see that knowledge as “changing everything,” or even anything—as they just sleepwalked through life.
There is a science fiction story with the interesting title of “The Sheep Look Up.”
Well, what happens if, when Disclosure comes, a large percentage of the sheep just don’t want to “look up,” and see what is going on, cannot accept, and don’t want to see, acknowledge, or recognize that there has been a titanic, radical shift in everything?
Or, perhaps there won’t be anywhere near the powerful and all-encompassing “ontological shock” which I am anticipating, and that’s because close to eight decades of popular entertainment—earlier on it was books, images, and the radio, and, then, into the present day more books, TV shows, and video games which feature UFOs and Aliens—have so well prepared the ground, that many, perhaps a substantial number of people–in the back of their minds—already know and accept the fact that “we are not alone ” and, thus, for who knows how many people, this “shock” will be no shock at all.
Re Nonapod’s thoughts above, the only explanation is:
Our Constitution was made ONLY for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
John Adams
P.S. –What could be considered Science Fiction films–astronomical subjects, travel through space, etc. go way back, with some of the earliest having been created by Frenchman Georges Melies before and at the turn of the 20th century, well before the advent of “talkies ” *
I can still remember watching the “Flash Gorden” series when I was a child.
Last night I watched David Pakman interview Vivek Ramaswamy on youtube.
Once again Vivek Ramaswamy was brilliant! I’ve seen Mr. Ramaswamy interviewed by many different types of people with different motives and every time he has controlled the message and, when necessary, shut down insincere and/or dirty tactics by the interviewer.
I do not see Vivek Ramaswamy going away quickly. With his track record; brilliant student, brilliant lawyer, brilliant on Wall Street, brilliant in bio-tech, and his energy and communication skills I’m convinced he’s employing a very good strategy for his campaign. Despite a near blackout by the MSM he’s getting his message out and he is indefatigable. He also has well thought out policy positions on everything and he can talk in depth on an incredible array of subjects; pharma, defense, FBI, Constitutional law, the Treasury…
I’d never heard of David Pakman before watching this, and he certainly doesn’t comport himself well in the interview*, but it’s a good example of Mr. Ramaswamy using lawyerly like tactics to paint his opposition into a corner. I’ve seen Mr. Ramaswamy do this many times. He’s not only great at defending himself with a stellar grasp of the facts, he’s great at minimizing his attackers by luring them into rhetorical traps.
*He came across as very smarmy and condescending to me. Pakman’s resume is nothing like Ramaswamy’s, yet throughout the interview Pakman has an attitude that there is nothing he (Pakman) has to learn from Ramaswamy. Very quickly in the interview it becomes obvious that Ramaswamy is far more intelligent and knowledgeable on the topics than Pakman (topics Pakman himself is choosing) and it is obvious Ramaswamy is a better communicator, yet it never occurs to Pakman that he may be outmatched so Pakman ultimately comes across looking foolish and petty. At the end of the interview Ramaswamy even takes a few minutes to forcefully, yet politely educate Pakman in why his (Pakman’s) interview style was ineffective. Unfortunately, with his last statement Pakman reveals he is too stubborn and/or full of himself to learn the lesson.
snow on pine @11:35am,
“Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” – Arthur C. Clarke
Off topic for the thread thus far.
Victor Davis Hanson has a podcast this week about WWI and had a lenghty discussion about B H Obama and interview about BHO in The Tablet.
The podcast also discussed the 2017 BHO biography by the same author which was critical of BHO’s fabrications in BHO’s autobiographies.
It was a good podcast.
Nonapod,
Neo has mentioned this before. My wife and I have also had the same impression ever since seeing the movie. We are living in “Idiocracy.”
Brawndo has what plants crave!
“As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point. Natural selection, the process by which the strongest, the smartest, the fastest, reproduced in greater numbers than the rest, a process which had once favored the noblest traits of man, now began to favor different traits. Most science fiction of the day predicted a future that was more civilized and more intelligent. But as time went on, things seemed to be heading in the opposite direction. A dumbing down. How did this happen? Evolution does not necessarily reward intelligence. With no natural predators to thin the herd, it began to simply reward those who reproduced the most, and left the intelligent to become an endangered species.”
Rufus T Firefly:
That line of thinking fell in with the eugenics movement in the last century, Margaret Sanger and her less squemish factions were quite busy eliminating “undedireables” from the gene pool. Currently selective abortion (Iceland for Downs syndrome) is one manifestation.
Dragons and monsters lie along that path.
you have to be trained to be this stupid, take that brouhaha in montgomery, nobody in that crew came up with any self respect, of course the old woman struck with a chair, was entirely ignored,
it’s more environment than genetics, yes downs syndrome kids are the sweetest ones in the world, recall the feral reaction to sarah’s son, that prefigured what you have seen later,
om,
I agree with you. I think “Idiocracy” is a funny movie with a funny premise, but I’m in no way advocating we try to engineer our way out of this. As Blue Oyster Cult so wisely sang in their hit, “Godzilla,” “History shows again and again how nature points up the folly of men.”
I’ve written several comments highlighting the changing demographics we are seeing, and how they will likely affect elections. I don’t expect a sudden change in the growing percentages of single, adult women, but it does appear there are growing numbers of married young couples having multiple children. The shrinking U.S. birthrate isn’t due to families having fewer children. It’s due to more adults not being in families.
As Mark Steyn writes, “The future belongs to those who show up for it.”
om,
I’ll check out that VDH podcast. I subscribe to his podcast and pick and choose which ones I listen to based on the brief, show notes. I had skipped over that one but will now download it.
I think many folks here will find it interesting, especially those 70 and older. Mr. Hanson spends a lot of the interview talking about growing up in the U.S. and California in the ’50s, ’60s and ’70s. Very interesting.
There is a science fiction story with the interesting title of “The Sheep Look Up.”
Snow on Pine:
That was a 1972 novel by John Brunner about ecological catastrophe, when eco-catastrophe was a big thing.
It was Brunner’s follow-up to “Stand on Zanzibar” (1968) about overpopulation. It was written in the high lit style of John Dos Passos’ “America” trilogy. “Zanzibar” won the Hugo Award that year and sold well. I was much impressed.
“The Sheep Look Up” terrified me when I read it at 20 and was no small part of the sense of doom I felt about civilization. If only Bjorn Lomborg, the “Skeptical Environmentalist,” had been around then!
The title was from Milton:
_____________________________
The hungry sheep look up, and are not fed,
But swollen with wind and the rank mist they draw,
Rot inwardly, and foul contagion spread
Brunner seemed likely to become a major science fiction writer, but his career petered out after the 70s.
Just read that Trump will NOT sign the pledge to support whomever the Republican nominate. The only Trumpers will only vote for Trump, and the never Trumpers will not vote for Trump. What a mess.
didn’t have the cred of harry harrison, who went really crazy in the w years,
Well, I guess this should have been expected.
Up until now Australian investigative reporter Ross Coulthart has been saying that no one has come forward to cast doubt on David Grusch’ credibility and testimony, and now comes what I believe to be a hit piece by a “journalist” who reports on combat veteran Grusch’ brief hospitalization for PTSD some five years ago.
This reporter is quoted as saying that “he didn’t believe any of that UFO stuff”, and he admitted that some of his sources inside DOD first cast doubt on Grusch’ veracity and, then, pointed him in the right direction, so he could dig up police records recording Grusch being transferred to a hospital when he had an episode of suicidal thoughts— an end run around HIPPA which he probably would not have thought of himself.
As a veteran and former Air Force medic I find this tactic particularly slimy.
SHIREHOME — out of 14, doesn’t everyone at least support Nikki Hayley or Pence with McCONNELL as the Senate’s leading octogenarian? Who wouldn’t go for that?
/sarc
I’m an ex-Republican as of June, 2020. It was obvious that the Team RHINO wasn’t going to back either Trump or restoring law and order after the Summer of Love. So WTF? Stand Pat? No. PROTEST.
Rufus T Firefly:
I’ve been meaning to watch “Idiocracy” for years, heard about it from other Halliburtin crew members while in North Dakota (2011). You’d think it would be in the local city library? Nope, ALA, censors?
“Help, help, I’m being repressed!” – MPATHG
“He must be a King, he’s not covered with sh*t.” – MPATHG
sandy cortez (for instance) is full of brawndo, sigh,
RE: Air Force UFO Whistleblower David Grusch and his PTSD
People who have paid attention to the full story will know that, while Afghanistan combat veteran Grusch did indeed have an episode of PTSD (which he acknowledged in his first interview with Ross Coulthart) despite this fact, DOD security officials —who, I am sure, conducted a very thorough investigation of this episode, his treatment, and the results of that treatment—did not yank his very high level security clearances.
Moreover, it should also be remembered that the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community reportedly took many hours of sworn testimony from Grusch and his supporting witnesses, and after this, concluded that his was a serious complaint which was both “credible and urgent,” which was why this IG notified Congress about it.
om,
That MPAHG scene is brilliant! Hilarious, but also a very clever treatise on politics. Too bad we don’t have comics making films so clever these days.
Regarding “Idiocracy,” I found the premise very funny and there are scenes and lines that are very clever, but some of the humor is a bit crude for my tastes. In Mike Judge’s defense, he’s painting a picture of a future where things are very dumbed down, and that includes culture, so “potty” humor fits the film’s structure. Just a heads up you probably don’t want to watch it with the local Lady’s Bible Study club.
@Rufus at 12:32 pm:
I watched the interview and sent it to a relative. I very much agree with you.
We are hungry for intelligence, morality, and common sense.
VV,
Glad to hear you appreciated it.
Nonapod…”Glenn Reynold’s has argued we’re living in Heinlein’s “crazy years”.”
See my post Are We Living at the Intersection of These Two Stories
@ David Foster “I should probably run an updated version and change the title from a question to an assertion”
I read that when you linked it on an earlier thread, being both a Heinlein fan and having a son who appeared in “Rhinoceros” in HS (it’s tied with “Little Shop of Horrors” for his favorite play).
It is almost as surreal as Ionesco’s play to realize that things have gotten so much crazier since you wrote your post.
(Ionesco wrote that in 1959, a decade after Heinlein’s story)
@ Jordan Rivers — IIRC, Native Americans were not particularly offended by the team’s name; the outrage, as usual, was by the Professional Caucasian Leftists “on their behalf.”
From your link:
“In terms of changing the name Redskins, the Native American community was never asked how they felt about it. Once again, we are met by closed doors and no open dialogue with the Commanders leadership or the executives.” The NAGA letter to the Commanders “cites lawsuits, polls and general sentiment supporting their argument that Native Americans do not find ‘Redskin’ to be a derogatory term.” Many people profess to find “Redskin” offensive in a way that even “Indian” is not – but if these Native Americans don’t find it insulting, why should anyone else?
PS there was no great grass-roots upwelling of demands to remove the Land o’ Lakes Native American lady from the butter package, or Uncle Ben and Aunt Jemima from their familiar labels.
Ever wonder why the Left keeps cancelling People of Color from favorable positions and positive associations?
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I was thinking that 20 years ago the concept of two ultra-billinaires fighting in a cage match might have been an absurd concept for an episode of South Park or MTV’s Celebrity Deathmatch.
But then I also remembered we’re living in a time were a former president who is a garish billionaire and reality TV star is being lawlessly prosecuted by a deeply and brazenly corrupt current president with his justice department, and half the country being essentially OK with it. Not to mention the endless parade of other absurdities that have been presented to us day after day for years now. Such as
– legalized and celebrated child mutilations
– brave retail employees in large cities attempting to stop shoplifters often being fired and even prosecuted by the state
– obvious and well documented presidential corruption in the form of bribary from foreign advisorial powers that is ignored or downplayed by the media
– reams of evidence of federal government officials instructing and colluding with large social media companies to supress the free speech rights of American citizens without consequence
And these are just the absurdities at the top of my mind. Glenn Reynold’s has argued we’re living in Heinlein’s “crazy years”. Maybe so. At any rate, I wonder if things will become even more insane in the coming months and years. Just how deranged can a civilization become? And is the apparent apathy of so many of our fellow Amercans a function of a lack of awareness or simple misapprehension or self delusion?
RE: UFOs –What impact would Disclosure actually have?
My assumption up until now has been that, if we were to be given an official, definitive acknowledgment/proof that Aliens exist and were, in fact, the beings directing many of the UFOs flying around in our skies, the knowledge that “we are not alone,” would have an enormous and profound impact on every aspect of the identity, thoughts, and lives of every human individual, on human civilization in general; an “ontological shock” which would change everything.
But in light of the example of current politics—that despite the ever increasing mountain of evidence of the utter corruption of President Joe Biden, and no matter what the quality and volume of this evidence might be, the millions of dollars transferred to the Biden’s 20 shell companies and accounts by foreign leaders and businessmen– apparently somewhere around 50% of the populace here in the U.S. has simply ignored and/or discounted this evidence–started me wondering.
Thus, would the fact that “we are not alone” even penetrate many people’s minds, and would many people even see that knowledge as “changing everything,” or even anything—as they just sleepwalked through life.
There is a science fiction story with the interesting title of “The Sheep Look Up.”
Well, what happens if, when Disclosure comes, a large percentage of the sheep just don’t want to “look up,” and see what is going on, cannot accept, and don’t want to see, acknowledge, or recognize that there has been a titanic, radical shift in everything?
Or, perhaps there won’t be anywhere near the powerful and all-encompassing “ontological shock” which I am anticipating, and that’s because close to eight decades of popular entertainment—earlier on it was books, images, and the radio, and, then, into the present day more books, TV shows, and video games which feature UFOs and Aliens—have so well prepared the ground, that many, perhaps a substantial number of people–in the back of their minds—already know and accept the fact that “we are not alone ” and, thus, for who knows how many people, this “shock” will be no shock at all.
Re Nonapod’s thoughts above, the only explanation is:
Our Constitution was made ONLY for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
John Adams
P.S. –What could be considered Science Fiction films–astronomical subjects, travel through space, etc. go way back, with some of the earliest having been created by Frenchman Georges Melies before and at the turn of the 20th century, well before the advent of “talkies ” *
I can still remember watching the “Flash Gorden” series when I was a child.
*See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_science_fiction_films_before_1920
Last night I watched David Pakman interview Vivek Ramaswamy on youtube.
Once again Vivek Ramaswamy was brilliant! I’ve seen Mr. Ramaswamy interviewed by many different types of people with different motives and every time he has controlled the message and, when necessary, shut down insincere and/or dirty tactics by the interviewer.
I do not see Vivek Ramaswamy going away quickly. With his track record; brilliant student, brilliant lawyer, brilliant on Wall Street, brilliant in bio-tech, and his energy and communication skills I’m convinced he’s employing a very good strategy for his campaign. Despite a near blackout by the MSM he’s getting his message out and he is indefatigable. He also has well thought out policy positions on everything and he can talk in depth on an incredible array of subjects; pharma, defense, FBI, Constitutional law, the Treasury…
Very, very interesting.
Here’s the Pakman – Ramaswamy interview: https://youtu.be/iHt6dBJtOok
30 minutes long.
I’d never heard of David Pakman before watching this, and he certainly doesn’t comport himself well in the interview*, but it’s a good example of Mr. Ramaswamy using lawyerly like tactics to paint his opposition into a corner. I’ve seen Mr. Ramaswamy do this many times. He’s not only great at defending himself with a stellar grasp of the facts, he’s great at minimizing his attackers by luring them into rhetorical traps.
*He came across as very smarmy and condescending to me. Pakman’s resume is nothing like Ramaswamy’s, yet throughout the interview Pakman has an attitude that there is nothing he (Pakman) has to learn from Ramaswamy. Very quickly in the interview it becomes obvious that Ramaswamy is far more intelligent and knowledgeable on the topics than Pakman (topics Pakman himself is choosing) and it is obvious Ramaswamy is a better communicator, yet it never occurs to Pakman that he may be outmatched so Pakman ultimately comes across looking foolish and petty. At the end of the interview Ramaswamy even takes a few minutes to forcefully, yet politely educate Pakman in why his (Pakman’s) interview style was ineffective. Unfortunately, with his last statement Pakman reveals he is too stubborn and/or full of himself to learn the lesson.
snow on pine @11:35am,
“Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” – Arthur C. Clarke
Off topic for the thread thus far.
Victor Davis Hanson has a podcast this week about WWI and had a lenghty discussion about B H Obama and interview about BHO in The Tablet.
The podcast also discussed the 2017 BHO biography by the same author which was critical of BHO’s fabrications in BHO’s autobiographies.
It was a good podcast.
Nonapod,
Neo has mentioned this before. My wife and I have also had the same impression ever since seeing the movie. We are living in “Idiocracy.”
Brawndo has what plants crave!
“As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point. Natural selection, the process by which the strongest, the smartest, the fastest, reproduced in greater numbers than the rest, a process which had once favored the noblest traits of man, now began to favor different traits. Most science fiction of the day predicted a future that was more civilized and more intelligent. But as time went on, things seemed to be heading in the opposite direction. A dumbing down. How did this happen? Evolution does not necessarily reward intelligence. With no natural predators to thin the herd, it began to simply reward those who reproduced the most, and left the intelligent to become an endangered species.”
Rufus T Firefly:
That line of thinking fell in with the eugenics movement in the last century, Margaret Sanger and her less squemish factions were quite busy eliminating “undedireables” from the gene pool. Currently selective abortion (Iceland for Downs syndrome) is one manifestation.
Dragons and monsters lie along that path.
you have to be trained to be this stupid, take that brouhaha in montgomery, nobody in that crew came up with any self respect, of course the old woman struck with a chair, was entirely ignored,
it’s more environment than genetics, yes downs syndrome kids are the sweetest ones in the world, recall the feral reaction to sarah’s son, that prefigured what you have seen later,
om,
I agree with you. I think “Idiocracy” is a funny movie with a funny premise, but I’m in no way advocating we try to engineer our way out of this. As Blue Oyster Cult so wisely sang in their hit, “Godzilla,” “History shows again and again how nature points up the folly of men.”
I’ve written several comments highlighting the changing demographics we are seeing, and how they will likely affect elections. I don’t expect a sudden change in the growing percentages of single, adult women, but it does appear there are growing numbers of married young couples having multiple children. The shrinking U.S. birthrate isn’t due to families having fewer children. It’s due to more adults not being in families.
As Mark Steyn writes, “The future belongs to those who show up for it.”
om,
I’ll check out that VDH podcast. I subscribe to his podcast and pick and choose which ones I listen to based on the brief, show notes. I had skipped over that one but will now download it.
Speaking of VDH, I highly recommend his recent interview with Peter Robinson on Uncommon Knowledge: https://www.hoover.org/research/classicist-farmer-life-and-times-victor-davis-hanson
I think many folks here will find it interesting, especially those 70 and older. Mr. Hanson spends a lot of the interview talking about growing up in the U.S. and California in the ’50s, ’60s and ’70s. Very interesting.
There is a science fiction story with the interesting title of “The Sheep Look Up.”
Snow on Pine:
That was a 1972 novel by John Brunner about ecological catastrophe, when eco-catastrophe was a big thing.
It was Brunner’s follow-up to “Stand on Zanzibar” (1968) about overpopulation. It was written in the high lit style of John Dos Passos’ “America” trilogy. “Zanzibar” won the Hugo Award that year and sold well. I was much impressed.
“The Sheep Look Up” terrified me when I read it at 20 and was no small part of the sense of doom I felt about civilization. If only Bjorn Lomborg, the “Skeptical Environmentalist,” had been around then!
The title was from Milton:
_____________________________
The hungry sheep look up, and are not fed,
But swollen with wind and the rank mist they draw,
Rot inwardly, and foul contagion spread
–John Milton, “Lycidas”
_____________________________
Brunner seemed likely to become a major science fiction writer, but his career petered out after the 70s.
Just read that Trump will NOT sign the pledge to support whomever the Republican nominate. The only Trumpers will only vote for Trump, and the never Trumpers will not vote for Trump. What a mess.
didn’t have the cred of harry harrison, who went really crazy in the w years,
Well, I guess this should have been expected.
Up until now Australian investigative reporter Ross Coulthart has been saying that no one has come forward to cast doubt on David Grusch’ credibility and testimony, and now comes what I believe to be a hit piece by a “journalist” who reports on combat veteran Grusch’ brief hospitalization for PTSD some five years ago.
This reporter is quoted as saying that “he didn’t believe any of that UFO stuff”, and he admitted that some of his sources inside DOD first cast doubt on Grusch’ veracity and, then, pointed him in the right direction, so he could dig up police records recording Grusch being transferred to a hospital when he had an episode of suicidal thoughts— an end run around HIPPA which he probably would not have thought of himself.
As a veteran and former Air Force medic I find this tactic particularly slimy.
SHIREHOME — out of 14, doesn’t everyone at least support Nikki Hayley or Pence with McCONNELL as the Senate’s leading octogenarian? Who wouldn’t go for that?
/sarc
I’m an ex-Republican as of June, 2020. It was obvious that the Team RHINO wasn’t going to back either Trump or restoring law and order after the Summer of Love. So WTF? Stand Pat? No. PROTEST.
Rufus T Firefly:
I’ve been meaning to watch “Idiocracy” for years, heard about it from other Halliburtin crew members while in North Dakota (2011). You’d think it would be in the local city library? Nope, ALA, censors?
“Help, help, I’m being repressed!” – MPATHG
“He must be a King, he’s not covered with sh*t.” – MPATHG
sandy cortez (for instance) is full of brawndo, sigh,
RE: Air Force UFO Whistleblower David Grusch and his PTSD
People who have paid attention to the full story will know that, while Afghanistan combat veteran Grusch did indeed have an episode of PTSD (which he acknowledged in his first interview with Ross Coulthart) despite this fact, DOD security officials —who, I am sure, conducted a very thorough investigation of this episode, his treatment, and the results of that treatment—did not yank his very high level security clearances.
Moreover, it should also be remembered that the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community reportedly took many hours of sworn testimony from Grusch and his supporting witnesses, and after this, concluded that his was a serious complaint which was both “credible and urgent,” which was why this IG notified Congress about it.
om,
That MPAHG scene is brilliant! Hilarious, but also a very clever treatise on politics. Too bad we don’t have comics making films so clever these days.
Regarding “Idiocracy,” I found the premise very funny and there are scenes and lines that are very clever, but some of the humor is a bit crude for my tastes. In Mike Judge’s defense, he’s painting a picture of a future where things are very dumbed down, and that includes culture, so “potty” humor fits the film’s structure. Just a heads up you probably don’t want to watch it with the local Lady’s Bible Study club.
@Rufus at 12:32 pm:
I watched the interview and sent it to a relative. I very much agree with you.
We are hungry for intelligence, morality, and common sense.
VV,
Glad to hear you appreciated it.
Nonapod…”Glenn Reynold’s has argued we’re living in Heinlein’s “crazy years”.”
See my post Are We Living at the Intersection of These Two Stories
https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/60689.html
(I should probably run an updated version and change the title from a question to an assertion)
NAGA wants the Washington Commanders to revert to their old name Redskins. NAGA is the Native American Guardians Association, an Indian (feather) group.
https://pjmedia.com/culture/robert-spencer/2023/08/10/guess-what-group-is-threatening-boycott-if-the-washington-commanders-dont-restore-the-name-redskins-n1717910
@ David Foster “I should probably run an updated version and change the title from a question to an assertion”
I read that when you linked it on an earlier thread, being both a Heinlein fan and having a son who appeared in “Rhinoceros” in HS (it’s tied with “Little Shop of Horrors” for his favorite play).
It is almost as surreal as Ionesco’s play to realize that things have gotten so much crazier since you wrote your post.
(Ionesco wrote that in 1959, a decade after Heinlein’s story)
@ Jordan Rivers — IIRC, Native Americans were not particularly offended by the team’s name; the outrage, as usual, was by the Professional Caucasian Leftists “on their behalf.”
From your link:
PS there was no great grass-roots upwelling of demands to remove the Land o’ Lakes Native American lady from the butter package, or Uncle Ben and Aunt Jemima from their familiar labels.
Ever wonder why the Left keeps cancelling People of Color from favorable positions and positive associations?