Is this Jack Smith’s endgame?
I was planning to write a piece advancing a certain thesis about one of Jack Smith’s goals in the Trump J6 case, but this person beat me to it.
So I’ll just quote the gist of it:
…[W]hat jumps out to me is that Smith is pushing for an early trial date not to provide a quick resolution and to “do justice”; rather, Smith wants a partisan DC jury to quickly convict Trump, thus setting up Smith’s next level of political gamesmanship. Smith wants Trump’s conviction to be heard and decided by the Supreme Court, knowing full well that a Trump conviction has no chance of affirmation at SCOTUS. Smith is counting on it. Smith wants the Supreme Court to vacate his almost certain conviction in order to enflame the Democratic base. He wants to hand Joe Biden another “the Supreme Court is illegitimate” gift …
Smith isn’t dumb. He expects his conviction to be vacated. In fact, he’s counting on it.
I would add that it’s win/win for Smith. In other words, if SCOTUS happens to uphold a Trump conviction, that’s good too. But if it doesn’t, that’s fodder for the “Illegitimate Court” shrieks.
NOTE: And by the way, although I write as though Smith is acting alone, he most definitely is not. This is a group effort, and I mean the Democrat Party and its leaders, and of course Garland. Smith wouldn’t be acting without their help and approval.
Consider the following problems:
1. DC juries will convict republicans for breathing while exonerating democrats who have mountains of evidence against them.
2. Democrats want to make DC a state— or multiple states.
The answer is simple: shrink DC to half or less its current size, and have the federal government buy all land in DC so that no one is a resident. Those that currently complain that they don’t get proper representation will find that they are now residents of Virginia or Maryland. Federal trials that would have been tried in DC will go to random courts throughout the country as DC doesn’t have a jury pool.
It would seem to require specific editorial direction to ensure that a media outlet extensively covers one President’s legal issues, but hides another’s.
Does this behavior mean that the news organs that practice this could be vulnerable to judgements of “actual malice” under prosecution by a possible future Trump administration?
How likely do you think it is that Obama is advising him?
Matt – of course. While at the same time Obama play the other side against Biden.
Examine your Roman Imperial history. THIS is how Oligarch’s do political intrigue.
How likely do you think it is that Obama is advising him?
Matt Knowles:
I think Obama is more of a big picture guy and enjoys his golf and time on David Geffen’s super-yacht with the likes of Tom Hanks and Bruce Springsteen.
Unless Trump wins and Smith better get out of Dodge fast.
Matt Knowles:
I think Obama has been very very active behind-the-scenes in many of the left’s tactical and strategic decisions of the Trump and post-Trump era. I actually plan to write about that soon.
Yes, a win-win for Smith and a lose-lose for whatever is left of the rule of law. The weakness of these latest indictments make them hard to take seriously but serious they are. I still go back and forth over whether there is a way to pull out of this madness. Every time I listen to Jack Smith or some blithering idiot “legal expert” yammer on about Trump’s grave threat to democracy, I start leaning to the “we’re doomed” side.
Oh well, a lot can happen between now and November 2024 and I hope and pray that there will be events that open some people’s eyes to the true threat we face.
When the Supremes overturn the verdict, the opinion needs to express how outrageous the prosecution is. It needs to do so in the most strident terms possible. It needs to demand the disbarment of all lawyers at Justice that are involved.
If Democrats want to attack the Court, the Court cannot be shy in standing up for the constitution and our rights. It needs to use harsh, but honest language to slap down the tyrants. No time for subtlety or half measures.
You assume that Trump is dumb enough to let the trial end before the election.
I think Obama has been very very active behind-the-scenes
neoi:
I’m sure he is active, but even as President he wasn’t hands-on. He left most of the dirty work of making things happen to Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.
If he really wanted to make a difference, and didn’t mind giving up some billionaire style comfort, he would get his lazy wife to run for President and take a serious shot at putting that “fundamental transformation of America” into cement.
I’m the Pollyanna guy here. But if Michele ran, she would win, and I truly fear what would happen to America.
This is an example of overthinking things and overestimating the deviousness of people. They simply want to put him jail before the election- their thinking is going no deeper than that. These people aren’t evil geniuses, Neo. Evil, yes, but definitely not geniuses.
I agree with Yancey. The ideology driving the weaponization of the DOJ is void of long term strategy. It is driven by pure hatred of Trump and the desire to make him pay for beating Hillary.
Envy is a core attribute of Marxist ideology. And what is envy? It is the deep loathing of another person’s success. Envy can only be satisfied by making others miserable. Envy about a person – Trump in this case – can only be squelched by destroying Trump.
Yancey Ward; Invisible Sun:
There’s nothing genius-level about such a tactic. It’s rather obvious, and any garden-variety lawyer or political operative could easily think of it.
I also think it’s a huge error to underestimate the left. I think their tactics are well-thought-out and well-coordinated, and they are highly motivated and determined. As I said, genius isn’t necessary.
@ JackWayne > “You assume that Trump is dumb enough to let the trial end before the election.”
I don’t know what “you” is being referenced (the pundit suggesting Smith’s “endgame” perhaps), but it does appear to be to Trump’s benefit to AVOID a speedy trial.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2023/08/04/why-trump-wants-a-prolonged-trial-n2626632
Vespa quotes largely from Axios.
https://www.axios.com/newsletters/axios-sneak-peek-a1730bb2-fab3-4737-baad-d98b9b233faa.html?stream=top
For more on how the discovery process benefits Trump, see my comment here (I didn’t see Neo’s post at the time I wrote it).
https://www.thenewneo.com/2023/08/04/trump-case-glitch/#comment-2692065
@ Neo > “I think Obama has been very very active behind-the-scenes in many of the left’s tactical and strategic decisions of the Trump and post-Trump era. I actually plan to write about that soon.”
I assume the latest expose from Tablet will form part of that plan. It’s very, very, very long, but definitely worth the time.
Fairly well summarized in this post; Arama leaves out a lot of important things, although he includes the click-bait parts.
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2023/08/04/obama-biographer-interview-drops-some-fascinating-info-including-letter-about-sex-with-men-fantasies-n787746
“The United States strongly condemns Russia’s conviction of opposition leader Aleksey Navalny on politically motivated charges. The Kremlin cannot silence the truth. Navalny should be released.”
–Antony Blinken, Biden Secretary Of State
Probably Jack’s best case scenario
He has to be definitely just the point man, could be dozens of minds working on this
I’d be surprised if such an outcome (SCOTUS overturns a conviction) moves public opinion more than a point, and I wouldn’t put money on which way the move went.
On the other hand, upholding would cost the court about 99% of its current supply of good will.
Wonder what Roberts thinks.
The answer is simple: shrink DC to half or less its current size, and have the federal government buy all land in DC so that no one is a resident.
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The answer is simpler.
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(1) retrocede DC to Maryland. If they refuse to take it, dissolve the DC city council and school board, eliminate their congressional observer, and put it under the administration of an appointed commission.
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(2) redraw federal trial jurisdictions. Instead of the current 93 jurisdictions, have 40-odd jurisdictions composed of commuter belts respecting county and not state boundaries. The jurisdictions with the largest caseloads (New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Dallas) could then be bisected, trisected, or tetrasected. You’d have about 50 jurisdictions. Maryland, DC, and Virginia would be carved up into jurisdictions based in Baltimore, Washington, Richmond, Charlotte, and Pittsburgh. The Washington jurisdiction would contain DC, about six counties in Maryland, and 20-odd counties and stand-alone municipalities in Virginia. You could make it the law that juries include no more than two residents of DC. A decennial retrospective review of the caseload would be undertaken by the comptroller-general, and that would determine the staffing target for each federal trial jurisdiction. The target increases in comparison with the last assessment, you have new positions to fill. It declines, and staffing declines by attrition. The foundational staffing would be determined by the location of the personal domicile of each judge and you’d have triennial assessments of caseloads for the first decade. The enabling legislation would include a catalogue assigning all pending cases in the old system to a successor jurisdiction in the new system.
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(3) Suppress the extant DC courts without reassigning their judges. This can be done by a statutory definition of their geographic jurisdiction to be limited to one square yard in the middle of Pennsylvania Avenue and eliminating their appropriations. As for the salaries of the judges on that court, you pay them in potatoes dumped in their driveway once a year.
jack smith, is just an errand boy for jay bratt, of the national security division, but we see what muellers minions did to teddy malloch, to joseph farah et al,
a predator undeterred by any legal restraints, see the attack on the tea party on governor mcdonnell
Trump isn’t doing himself any favors with comments like his “If you go after me, I’m coming after you!” Truth. Trump’s efforts to defend himself and to counterattack are going to be used to paint him as a “Threat To Our Democracy,” and if the Supreme Court overturns his conviction it will be another sign that they are also a “Threat To Our Democracy.”
I don’t think Obama is running things. I wouldn’t be surprised if he had meetings with staffers in the Biden administration. That is more involvement than most ex-presidents have, but I doubt he’s giving them orders. The whole Democratic Party is where Biden is and supports his policy. The federal bureaucracy is deeply motivated to move in the current direction, even without the White House instructing them to. There’s no need for Obama, who was more of a frontman than a hands-on manager.
America is being “fundamentally transformed” under Biden, but I always took Obama’s use of the phrase as just more campaign rhetoric. Like Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama is never going to be entirely outside politics, but like her he’s less of an ideologue and more of an opportunist out to feather his nest than many on the right assume. I’m not saying he doesn’t have an ideology, just that he’s not the driven, single-minded ideological leader that many assume him to be.
It should be obvious to all, but I feel the need to say it just in case.
The prosecution of Trump is not at all about Trump–it is to GUARANATEE there will never be another independent President again and certainly not one from the Republican party. Anyone wanting to run without the special approval of the mob and unions would be a fool
When the Supremes overturn the verdict, the opinion needs to express how outrageous the prosecution is. It needs to do so in the most strident terms possible.
And it needs to be 9-0. Smith’s prosecution of McDonnell was reversed 9-0. It will be a good test of the honesty of the three lefties.
Insty has a short video today of the chairwoman of the GA grand jury.
“With yet another Trump indictment apparently coming soon from a left wing DA in Georgia, it seems worth reminding everyone that this individual was the foreperson on that grand jury” pic.twitter.com/Vn2fz3jOyR— Greg Price (@greg_price11) August 4, 2023
Of course there will be another Republican President, in six years if not in two. S/he just won’t be named Trump, that’s all.
Oh and my guess previous to this thread already is DJT could have 4 votes against him by the Supreme Court.
Neo warns don’t underestimate the Left! In reply to Yancey Ward’s you’re over thinking things, post.
But Neo – a good plan with so many articulated steps through possibly independent decision makers who can spoil its execution is the very definition for Not A Good Plan.
Therefore, I’m dismissing this speculation as speculative overreach.
Abraxas concedes “The federal bureaucracy is deeply motivated to move in the current direction, even without the White House instructing them to. There’s no need for Obama, who was more of a frontman than a hands-on manager.”
Did you miss the early May 2020 audio tape (that was purposely “leaked”) of Obama rallying the Senior Executive Service “Generals?”
— who’s numbers he’d massively expanded to 8,000 in the Senior Civil Service corps?
Of course Obama’s a frontman! But if you think the ultra-lightweight Obama retread SOS Blinken can function without direction, then we don’t live on the same planet.
Personnel is policy. Especially when a cultish Ex-prez can direct that personnel and loyaly grow it in the first place.
T J:
What part of win/win don’t you understand?
The trial takes a long time? Great for the Ds, because it asks as a distraction from Biden’s woes. Trial is quick? Great, because Trump is found guilty by the utterly biased DC court. Trial is appealed and verdict sustained? Great, Trump is evil and guilty. Trial is appealed and verdict overruled? Great, SCOTUS is illegitimate and Dems must be elected in order to fix it.
But if you think the ultra-lightweight Obama retread SOS Blinken can function without direction, then we don’t live on the same planet.
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The way our foreign policy is going I have absolutely no problem believing that ultra-lightweightsTony Blinken and Jake Sullivan are 100% in charge.
If anything happens to go right, that’s when I might start to suspect that somebody else had the reins in their hands.
I though rob malley was more in charge, see his imprint on policy, even sans title,
I read parts of his apologia for the algerian islamists, it was turgid and horrifying at once, he shared this view with his good friend effendi khashoggi,
The they’ll remove all the Cathawyers from the court and replace them all with Jawyers.