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The trans proliferation: Part I (intro and grooming)

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I’ve been spending a lot of time lately researching the proliferation of the trans phenomenon and its increasing visibility and demands, especially regarding children. I’ve decided to start a multi-parter series of posts, because even though I’ve already written about this many times I have a lot more to say.

Why do I find the topic so important? It’s not only that it’s doing a lot of harm, although it is. It’s also that it is an example of the consolidation of many trends on the left – such as the influence of social media, the Orwellian use of words, the co-opting of the medical and therapy professions, the power of propaganda, the focus on the young, and especially the tactic of labeling some group as a persecuted identity and calling opposition to all of its demands a bigoted and hateful “ism” that all nice people must fight against.

As part of the effort to understand more deeply what’s been going on, I’ve read many articles and also watched a host of YouTube video interviews of transitioners and detransitioners, especially youthful ones. I’ve been impressed at the eloquence and insight of so many of the latter, who despite their exceptional intelligence got sucked into this terrible mess and often made irreversible decisions because the adults in charge failed them in major ways. These stories are heartbreaking, fascinating, and enraging.

Here’s part of a video that involves an aspect of this phenomenon of which people may be unaware: the role of what for want of a better term I’ll call online grooming. I’ve cued up some relevant clips that are short, but they are part of a much longer interview that is well worth watching if you’re interested (if you’re pressed for time and want to hear the whole thing, you can do as I often do and listen to it at 1.5 or 1.75 speed). Here are the briefer excerpts:

This is terrible and this is important.

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The trans proliferation: Part I (intro and grooming) — 73 Comments

  2. Two of the most troubling elements of this madness engulfing the culture are the insistence on demonizing as “bigoted” the reasonable use of “grooming” to describe a tactic (clearly observable and well-documented) and the invention of the insanely stupid phrase “trans genocide” (most such persons having been killed in the line of what is euphemistically called “sex-work” by black men). Both involve abuse and degradation of language, always a potent weapon wielded by the left to great societal harm.

  3. Neo refers to “the tactic of labeling some group as a persecuted identity and calling opposition to all of its demands a bigoted and hateful ‘ism’ that all nice people must fight against.”

    This tactic is on abundant display in the messages posted online by transfolk angry at Rose Montoya for her shameless behavior at Brandon’s Pride event: “White House boob-barer Rose Montoya is facing fierce backlash from her own LGBTQ+ community — accused of setting back decades of activism in a flash. . . . many of the influencer’s earlier social media posts have been flooded with angry comments — with fellow trans people leading the charge. . . . Another trans follower told the exhibitionist: ‘I feel humiliated by this. You have given us a bad name and have made it easier for the haters to hate more,’ the follower said — acknowledging that ‘in this situation, they’d be correct. What you did was absolutely unacceptable and disrespectful. No one should expose themselves like you did,’ the critic said, saying the display would likely ‘push us further and further from acceptance.’ . . . Another commenter said that Montoya handed ‘a gift-wrapped talking point’ to ‘haters trying to repress LGBTQ people.'”

    https://nypost.com/2023/06/16/white-house-flasher-rose-montoya-facing-lgbtq-backlash/

    Well, I must be an incorrigible hater, then, because another verbal tic I dislike as much as the online whimpering and sniveling of trans activists (as if no other group of humans suffers as much as they) is their incessant use of the word community to describe themselves. I dunno, maybe we should start a “hater community” to provide some cover for opposition to trans demands.

  4. I can’t help but look back thirty years ago and more, when transsexual medical procedures were a desperate response to a profound psychological problem. I vividly remember being sympathetic. Then came all the political entanglements, and the accusations of the activists. I’m afraid that my well of sympathy has gone dry.

    Having said that, there are reasons that transsexualism has become the country’s big wedge issue, and I look forward to Neo’s explication.

  5. It interests me how mental illness seems to be popular among Democrats. I don’t mean that all Democrats are crazy (You will have to make your own mind up on that) but these pathologies seem to attract them. The day care center hysteria was less overtly political but the first one I became aware of was was the North Carolina “Little rascals” case. Janet Reno was involved in a Florida case.

    The Fells Acres case became quite political when the DA for that County, Martha Coakley, opposed freeing Gerald Amirault even though the case was by then a scandal.

    In August 1995, after serving eight years in state prison, Violet and Cheryl were freed on a successful appeal.[16] A Superior Court judge, Robert Barton, ruled that their convictions were wrongful because they were not able to directly confront their accusers.[2] A similar appeal on behalf of Gerald Amirault was denied in November 1995,[17] and the SJC reinstated the women’s convictions in March 1997,[18] citing the need for “finality”.

    In May 1997, another Superior Court judge, Isaac Borenstein,[18] granted the women separate motions for new trials.[19][20] Borenstein ruled that the children’s interrogations were so tainted by “grave errors” in the investigation process that they could not be used in any new trial. He explained that:

    These grave errors led to the testimony of the children being forever tainted. The only allegations made by the child witnesses occurred after they were subjected to the admittedly suggestive interviews, and investigative techniques, as well as inappropriate – even if understandable – influence by their families. Moreover, neither behavioral symptoms nor physical evidence which may be consistent with child sexual abuse were revealed until after the children and their families were subjected to these improper interviewing and investigative techniques. These alleged symptoms were only discussed after the families were overwhelmed by the panic, hysteria and media attention that snowballed this case into national headlines and widespread concern about ritualistic sexual abuse of children.[19]

    Coakley lost her Senate race to Scott Brown and her Governor race to Charles Baker. Both elections included discussion of her role in the day care panic.

  6. These trans- are children isolated from their parents, a parental failing, which is precisely what the Left always seeks to accomplish, the destruction of the nuclear family, the creation of Hitlerjugend and similar groups like Komsomol in the USSR.

    In the WSJ today I found sneering comments about women who are “housewives”, which I consider a married woman’s highest calling, caring for her own children, instead of by “caregivers” in a day-care center.

  7. PA Cat:

    I haven’t written much about Montoya, but it’s my opinion that the breast-flashing is an indication of Montoya’s maleness. A person who grew up as a male is used to being able to expose his chest without a lot of brouhaha and has little modesty about it, although of course most men wouldn’t expose their bare chests while at a ceremony on the White House lawn. But although it would be strange for a man to do that, it wouldn’t be as shocking as it would be if a woman were to do it. I would guess that Montoya thinks of the implants as prize possessions to flaunt, but has no long-held modesty about that whole area of the body.

  8. What happened to Gerald Amirault since he was paroled in 2004? I know he was refused a pardon. Has he spoken out, given any interviews? How is he getting by?

  9. neo,

    But isn’t the trans topless person right next to Montoya a woman that has had her breasts removed? Looks to me like there are visible scars below the nipple.

  10. Griffin:

    There are tons of photos online of women (or girls) who’ve had double mastectomies who post photos of the newly masculinized CHESTS – so yes, it works both ways. That is, women who would not be posting photos of their breasts – or baring their breasts in the case of the person you mention – (although of course some women do bare their female breasts, for sexual reasons, but that’s a whole different group of women) are posting photos of their operated-on chests that are now removed from being the object of sexual desire. Many of the girls and young women who are female-to-male transitioners are very repelled by their own breasts, and some of them have been sexually abused, sometimes by people grabbing their breasts when they were very young. They are eager to have those objects of desire removed and to have their new chests be flat and able to be shown in public just as a guy would do.

  11. neo,

    Yeah, I was just referring to your comment about it being more ingrained for a male like Montoya to go topless as opposed to a real female.

    The person flexing topless next to Montoya is a biological female I think.

    What a messed up world we live in.

  13. It seems that nowadays boys and young men as well as young-ish men (men in their 30s, 40s) don’t go shirtless as much as we did back in the day. In the summer, in the parks, riding bikes, playing softball and basketball at outdoor courts, trail hiking, etc., etc. — we took our shirts off. I worked construction jobs in my teens and 20s and, always we had our shirts off, weather permitting — and girls walking by the construction sites often expressed their approval. In pickup basketball we divided into “shirts and skins” teams. I haven’t seen anything like that in a long time. I wonder why.

  14. IrishOtter:

    Go to Seattle – or the Florida Keys especially. I’ve spent quite a bit of time in both places, and you will see men with their shirts off. Unfortunately, they all look to be about 75 or so. In the Keys they are on bicycles, which I initially thought was an effort at healthful exercise. I was quickly corrected and told it was because they all had had their drivers licenses taken away for DUIs. They were peddling off to start drinking at about 11 in the morning.

    I think maybe the lack of shirtless young construction crews compared to in the past is because people are more aware of the skin cancer risks?

  16. neo:

    Concerning young men going or not going shirtless: maybe the threat of skin cancer is a factor. But I’m thinking there might be more to it. A change in aesthetics perhaps. Changes in the way men and women look at each other and in the way they want to be seen.

    I really have no idea.

  17. Slut Walk feminists (i.e. class-disordered ideologues) grooming women and girls. Masculinists approve.

    Trans/homosexual males grooming boys in churches, schools, scouts, etc. under a Rainbow banner celebrating albinophobia.

    Progressive Cults’ wicked solution: reproductive rites… uh, I mean, rights.

    Diversity (i.e. color judgment, class-based bigotry) is Inequity, Exclusion.

    The Twilight faith (i.e. conflation of logical domains) and Amendment recently retracted.

    All’s fair in lust and abortion.

  18. While definitely many Trans children are being groomed away from parents, see many online stores of parents who have to have helped push their kids into it. Read 2 articles on celebrities with Trans kids it’s sickening to see they are being played for the parents esteem.
    Sure have stated here as well I fully believe it’s a mental issue, a male is a male and female is a female and there is not going to change. Trannies are actors, nothing much more. And to add seeing many males
    Playing they are female to spy on females in their separate places such as locker rooms.

  19. Neo says, “I think maybe the lack of shirtless construction crews compared to in the past is because people are more aware of the skin cancer risks?”

    I think it also has to do with the increasing use of safety shirts– particularly high-visibility shirts– to protect workers on the job outdoors as well as indoors. Samples here: “Wear hi-vis work shirts and remain visible on the job or in poor weather conditions.” https://www.fullsource.com/safety-shirts/

    OSHA stated as early as 1975 in reply to a letter of inquiry that “in response to your letter requesting a clarification of OSHA standards in relation to employees working stripped to the waist (bareback). The OSHA standards 1926.28(a) is written in such manner that it requires protection against all known and recognized hazards. Considering the potential for sunburn, dermatitis and skin abrasion, a shirt would be considered personal protective equipment in the same manner as goggles, hard hats or respirators. The employer could be cited for failure to require and enforce the use of personal protective equipment including shirts as protection against “bareback” injuries.”

    https://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/standardinterpretations/1975-09-18-0

  20. Skip:

    There are some visible parents, often attention-seeking, who push the kids. But from what I’ve read and seen they are FAR outnumbered by parents who are bewildered and frightened and not pushing it at all, who are stunned by kids presenting this way for the first time in early adolescence, adolescence, or young adulthood. The pushy parents are more likely to have very very young kids who talk about it, not adolescents at all. Adolescents don’t tend to listen to their parents, and they are more numerous in this population than the little kids are. The parents of the adolescents – or of kids of any age – who protest against transition for the kid or who question it are told if they don’t consent their kid will kill him or herself: “Do you want a dead daughter or a live son?”

    It is pernicious, especially since they don’t even know the statistics and are making them up. All these kids are at risk for depression and there is some suicide both before and after transition.

  21. In the 70s I worked for a spell for the U.S. Forest Service in northwest Colorado. Carving out dirt roads and cutting down trees in high country wilderness areas. I hardly ever wore a shirt. Didn’t wear a hardhat either, or reflective vest (which were unknown at the time). We received no directives on what to wear.

  22. IrishOtter:

    70s = ancient history. 🙂

    When I was a little child, I rode in the car by standing on the bench seat next to my mother. If she had to stop short, she’d hold out her right arm to protect me from falling forward from the jolt.

  23. I remember how In my childhood and youth my friends and I being aware that some kids, boys and girls, were different in terms of their sexuality. But it was no big deal. We didn’t talk about it because the subject didn’t interest us. We didn’t know the concept of sexuality. That’s what I see as a big difference between then and now. Nowadays the culture is radically sexualized, and very explicitly so.

  24. neo:

    Cars with bench seats and no seat belts — those were the days. Somehow, we survived them!

  26. My guess is that fewer men go shirtless because so many men are now obese.

  27. Parents with Inconvenient Truths about Trans (PITT)

    PITT.substack.com

    has extensive information about the family experience of dealing with this dysphoria, as well as resources and support for them. Some truly heartbreaking essays.
    If you subscribe, you will receive about an essay a week. Maybe less.

    Yesterday’s Congressional hearing had Dr. Miriam Grossman strongly refute
    the assertion that there is any basis for “gender affirming care”– while sitting next to the young “expert” the Ds brought in to testify for the need.

    https://twitter.com/JeremyShawMD/status/1669109860091281408

    Dan Crenshaw exposed the lack of science behind these treatments a bit later, by asking her which studies she could cite to support it:
    https://twitter.com/kara_kirsten/status/1669073561472970753

  28. I have a daughter who is strongly for trans “rights”, (I put rights in quotes because I’m not sure what rights they want) what she finds with her friends online is a sense of belonging. She is not neurotypical and has been isolated from her peers because of it. She has found friends online who talk about trans, but not in a grooming way instead out of a shared sense of isolation. There is also a sense of changing who they are will make their problems go away. I believe this is something most young people go through. I certainly did.

  31. Even if parents who have this hot idea all by themselves are a minority, how is the number greater than zero? What is wrong with these people?

    Other circumstances are different and perhaps parents aren’t capable of dealing with the entire world, so to speak, coming down on them.

    Looking back, maybe not absolutely valid, but when I was growing up, our family was Aubrey. Didn’t matter what others thought or did. Problems? We sucked it up and managed.

    Some time back, my wife and I noticed that when a kid we knew or had heard about was in some kind of trouble…it had been a while since our kids had had anything to do with them. Sort of passing out of that penumbra or something.

    Maybe we’ve been lucky. But for a kid with some sadz, even the more serious ones, to find solace amongst a bunch of online addresses, some likely bogus and active in the area, is appalling. What’s a family for?

  32. There is a new documentary, “Every Body” (2023) about the challenges of intersex people. Matt Zoller Sietz, a reliably PC reviewer at RogerEbert.com, gives it four stars.
    ______________________________________

    “Every Body” is a moving, fascinating look at a too-often-ignored subset of the world’s population, filled with empathy and understanding but also a cool, analytical anger about what history has put them through. The subject is intersex people, the slightly-more-than one percent of individuals who were born with a condition that complicated the state’s ability to identify them with one of the only two options listed on hospital paperwork: female or male.

    –Matt Zoller Sietz
    https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/every-body-movie-review-2023
    ______________________________________

    Which I believe is an overstatement by a factor of 50x-200x.

    I’m sure it’s a hard road for intersex people. I wish them well. It’s an unusual condition affecting a vital aspect of one’s biology and psychology. The medical establishment hasn’t handled it all that well, which shouldn’t be a terrible surprise.

    This focus on intersex strikes me a “motte and Bailey” ploy to justify the trans movement without having to defend all the biological messiness of puberty blockers and irreversible surgery. And the social/legal messiness of declaring one’s gender and forcing others to accept and celebrate that.

    _____________________
    * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy

  33. cb–

    FWIW, the visiting team in Dodger Stadium for Pride Night is the San Francisco Giants, who will fit right in with the transgressive spirit of the evening. Too bad only one team can lose the game.

  34. huxley:

    You are correct that intersex people are far rarer than 1%. You are also correct that they are used incorrectly and inappropriately as part of the trans argument as though there is some sort of analogy when there is not.

  35. Richard Aubrey:

    You ask “what is wrong with these people?” of the parents who seem to push trans on young kids. Sometimes it’s the schools and peers pushing it, and woke parents just go along because they’ve been told it’s best for the child. But sometimes they actively “push” it by overreacting to a passing moment when a young boy wants to dress up in sparkly clothes or paint his fingernails, and to show their wokeness the parents encourage him, thinking it means they are open-minded and that he may be trans. Sometimes it’s for fame, such a parents whose kids get publicity. Sometimes it’s Munchausen’s-by-proxy.

    Then there’s your second question: “But for a kid with some sadz, even the more serious ones, to find solace amongst a bunch of online addresses, some likely bogus and active in the area, is appalling. What’s a family for?” My answer is that many families are messed up, or parents very very busy, or – and I think this is often the case – they try to help but don’t know how. Adolescents can be very difficult, even with loving families. A loving family is much better equipped then a messed-up family to deal with adolescent angst or other problems like autism, all else being equal. But all the love in the world doesn’t always work, and many adolescents will withdraw anyway.

  36. The best and most riveting discussion of Trans that I know of is by James Lindsey and his “Groomer School” series podcast for New Discourses on YT.

    Drag Queen Story Hour in particular reveals how the sinister Brazilian Marxist Paulo Freire has become the EdSchools touchstone theorist, turning Educrats into activist proselytiser propagandists. It’s this that’s entirely corrupted US education over the past 25 years.

    The family unit norm destroyed makes collectivist task so much easier.

  37. Update to the Pride Night game in Dodger Stadium: The Giants were no-hit for 6 innings but came back to win in 11 innings, 7–5. Looks like the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence were no help to the home team– but wait for the Dodgers to blame the loss on the Catholics and other Christians protesting outside the stadium before the game.

  38. miguel cervantes,

    Shakespeare, not Bradbury. Ray Bradbury borrowed the line “something wicked this way comes” from one of the witches in Macbeth.

  40. PA Cat, thanks for the baseball report. Plus, you correct The Gateway Pundit’s odd headline on protests from “Catholics and Christians.” I suspect the Catholics outside Dodger stadium last night were believing Christians, not Joe Biden-style cultural Catholics.

  41. Neo. Thanks for your response.
    But.
    Some parents are like.. this and… that. And so they send their kid to the butcher shop.
    How do they get to be so stupid? Weak? Do they need–as in think they would die without–the approbation of …?
    Too early in the morning to get myself going on this.

  42. Richard Aubrey:

    A lot of trans kids never get surgery, and most who do get it are over 18 and don’t need their parents’ permission. So most parents don’t send kids to the “butcher shop.” And most of the small percentage who do give consent for their kids to have surgery are threatened that their kids will kill themselves without it. They are told that by medical professionals.

  43. There is also a sense of changing who they are will make their problems go away. I believe this is something most young people go through. I certainly did.

    Trouble is, now to do so – physically – is not only possible but celebrated in some quarters.

  44. When I talk with my friends and family members on the left, they reject as bigoted any critiques of the trans proliferation, as neo is calling it (and thanks for the term! I’ve been struggling with what to call it. Trans activism only addresses the public parts. Transgenderism makes a “movement” out of a suite of treatments.). They dismiss each instance of a trans person’s or ally’s or advocate’s clearly targeting children and young teens as just that – an isolated instance, anecdote-not-data, an edge case. They cite no studies; they don’t even appeal to any actual authorities. Their entire position seems to be that it’s beyond the pale to question either a very young person’s sense of him- or herself, or the actual, physical, permanent procedures used to “validate” that sense of oneself.

    I wonder if they remember their own adolescence.

    I had an umbilical hernia – an “outie,” not super sticky-outy but sort of half in and half out – as a child. I remember, at about 14, not wanting to wear a two-piece bathing suit because of it. My mom actually offered, once and only once, to look into having it surgically corrected. (I didn’t know that the cause was actually a medical condition that might even benefit from correction; I thought she was just offering me plastic surgery.) I didn’t even try to take her up on it then; we were definitely not a plastic surgery family. I eventually had the hernia repaired in my 40s, when I developed another hernia that actually did need to be repaired.

    Point is, in my teens I hated a thing about my body (believe me, that wasn’t the only thing! Bad skin, curvy hips in the era of no hips, hair that wouldn’t curl when curls were in and wouldn’t stay straight when they were out, invisible eyelashes…), and I had to learn to live with it. Learning to live with it caused me to grow up into womanhood more or less accepting myself as I was. (I will cop to using mascara.)

    Even in the best case for these kids who have normal discomfort with their changing bodies, we are denying them that opportunity for personal growth. And in the worst case?

  45. And now to the greater substance of neo’s post:

    an example of the consolidation of many trends on the left – such as the influence of social media, the Orwellian use of words, the co-opting of the medical and therapy professions, the power of propaganda, the focus on the young, and especially the tactic of labeling some group as a persecuted identity and calling opposition to all of its demands a bigoted and hateful “ism” that all nice people must fight against.

    I think maybe not just “an example.”

    It strikes me that they really kicked things into gear with the debate (if we can call it that) over the zero-sum game of CRT, with BLM, and with reparations. They used civil rights, a long-standing area of contention that frankly was getting solved (with apologies to black Americans who were and are still struggling with the problems of the black inner city and who still didn’t have the broad and deep employment networks that their white peers had – ISTM that in the first case, the intact-family problem has spread to the rest of society and is no longer so disproportionately a “black problem,” and in the second, the trend line was and is toward its passing away with a little more time), as their test case: can we get the normies on board with rejecting so many of the gains of the last fifty years and starting over with a completely different focal point? A focal point that pits them against one another, with no constructive endgame?

    A test case of the worse, the better. The answer was yes.

    So I tend to look at the trans proliferation as more than an example of the binding of a lot of leftist tactics* into a strategy. I tend to look at it as an expansion of the test case: can we get the normies to go along, even when we’re talking about separating them from their children and doing medical experiments on those children?

    * I see the “trigger” and “words are violence” and “safe space” phenomena as instances of co-opting the medical and therapeutic professions, just to be clear. No one has suggested that lightening the skin of a black person is an appropriate response to that person’s feelings of being oppressed by the white majority, but certainly we now live in a world in which that person’s tender eyes and ears must not be allowed to see or hear anything that might offend him or her.

  46. rishOtter49 on June 16, 2023 at 6:47 pm said:
    neo:

    Cars with bench seats and no seat belts — those were the days. Somehow, we survived them!

    We drove across the country, from LA to Boston, in 1965, with my infant son in a crib wedged into the middle seat in a VW bus. It may have done him some harm as he is now a trial lawyer.

  48. Neo. I get the part about those over eighteen. What I don’t get is, in the first place, allowing a minor enough leeway with the freaks to figure that getting a case of the sadz is a good thing. See Slenderman stabbings. Then buying it. Then taking a doctor’s word for it.

    Are then are there those whose entire idea it is in the first place?

    My granddaughters, eleven and fifteen, are charging around in sports, church activities, responsibilities around the house, one made a hundred bucks running a lemonade stand in favor of a local food bank last summer, encouragement about grades, restricted hours on the phone, and parents paying attention. The parents know what’s going on.

  49. And furthermore!

    We’re talking about encouraging runaways and teen sex trafficking using slogans like “sex work is work” and “dead boy or live girl.” The point in the second video in which the interviewer notes that bottom surgery is being done not for the benefit of the patient but for the sexual gratification of others – that its full intent is to turn a young person into a sex doll for someone else – hits hard.

    NAMBLA is grinning. Humbert Humbert is rubbing his hands together in glee, waiting for his next Lolita, one who can’t possibly get pregnant and whose sexual equipment will stay firm and tight forever, to emerge from surgery.

    I was bewildered when the trans thing started to proliferate and to reach into younger and younger age groups. “Isn’t this, after all, entirely about how you’ll have sex and with whom?” I asked myself. Bringing it up to children means you’re explicitly addressing how these children will have sex and with whom – hopefully in the future, but are we sure that’s what the trans activists have in mind?

    Maybe this is a bridge too far. Maybe even the nicest and most dedicated Democrat voters, the ones with the stupid “Love is love” signs in their yard (is it? Is love between a man and his dog love? Is love between a teacher and her ninth grade student love? How about between a caregiver and his charge with Downs syndrome? Because, let’s be clear, when that sign says “love,” it’s talking about sex. No one ever stopped two men or two women from living together in loving companionship. It was the sex that used to be objected to), will finally clear their throats and venture to say, “Um, I don’t really like having someone with a penis in my daughter’s locker room” or “Uh, my daughter has three friends who have all come out at trans and now she wants a mastectomy, and even though I could start her on hormones, I’m wondering if maybe there’s some social contagion here and I ought to wait it out a little…?”

    Or maybe not. We have friends whose daughter, always a different child in all the ways we’ve heard about but never showing any signs of wanting to be a boy, came out to her parents as trans after – literally – three of her classmates did. Very progressive parents in a very progressive close-in suburb of a very progressive big city. Their response appeared to be to start her on hormones immediately and to come out with her to everyone: “The child we have is not the child we thought we had,” intoned solemnly.

    I say “their response appeared to be” because who knows, maybe she actually came out earlier and they put her into some talk therapy first, and I am inferring the hormones from physical evidence. But regardless, she at least socially transitioned at 13 with her family now incentivised to keep her on that path (the young man in the first video talks about the sunk cost fallacy; surely it applies not just to the victim, I mean young trans person, but also to the very publicly supportive family).

    This young person is now in college studying – any guesses? Public policy and gender studies. Of course.

  51. I was going to post this on the Carlson post, since it’s, as Neo observes, a superb example of Tucker at his best. It’s also part of a speech that many agree is what got Tucker fired. You can say lots of things, but to call the left Evil raises the rage meter.

    At some point, as we move to a post-Christian world, rational people are going to face a stark reality that this is what society will look like as we not only abandon God, but actively mock Him.

    God is the author of the universe. Evil is real and his face is Lucifer.

    If there is no God, then what difference does it make how society is structured?One of the key attributes of sin is pleasure– and along with it excitement and all the heightened senses along with it. Get with the program. Those uneasy feelings this is fundamentally wrong must be subdued. If you won’t do it, it will be done for you. The temperature is rising. How better to mock God than to reject the most basic foundation of this world– male and female, man and woman.

    Nothing more boring than the world God’s Spirit promises– of which peace and serenity are supreme.

    Tucker Carlson: We Are in a Battle of GOOD vs. EVIL

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtWS-vBrNCg

  52. Richard Aubrey:

    Plenty of kids engaged in activities and with engaged parents get, as you call it, the sadz. Adolescence is famous for that, and though parents have some input and control it is hardly completely determinative. What you may not realize, though, is that the vast majority of kids who identify as trans have comorbidities such as, for example, some form of high-functioning autism (VERY common among these kids). They also quite often have had some form of sexual trauma that has made them want to reject their bodies, especially the girls. And a huge percentage are gay and are running away from that, because they believe that becoming the opposite sex will mean they are actually straight.

  53. For some guys having breasts and a vagina are their prized possession and the ultimate status symbol.

    For some young people, far away strangers on the internet are the most real, or only, human connections they have. It may have something to do with everyone living in such small niches nowadays — people’s interests not coinciding with the interests of those around them — and a lot to do with being more comfortable with screens than with people. Is it paradoxical that round the clock, instant connectivity is accompanied by feelings or isolation or is there a causal connection there? Also, are the young transboys really that isolated or does the trans phenomenon spread as much through person to person contact as through the internet and social media? It sounds like it, though it’s hard for older people to imagine transgenders as anything but lonely, tormented souls.

    I do feel a tiny bit of Schadenfreude about the LG community being as taken aback and disoriented by the trans movement as our parents and grandparents (and maybe ourselves) were by gay liberation in the 1970s. Lesbians being told that maybe fish do need bicycles after all.

  54. neo.
    I heard about the autism issue. Not sure if it’s seen as a thing requiring some kind of attention, or an OPPORTUNITY.
    Autistic people have been autistic for a very long time and not had the trans treatment. Point is the helpless, which is to say minors under the control of their parents. The others…unfortunate but not a parent’s direct fault.
    Crenshaw got a proponent to admit there is no evidence of long term benefit to the hormones and surgeries. IOW, it’s a waste of one’s life.
    Far too much enthusiasm for the process.

  55. Richard Aubrey:

    Social media is a HUGE factor in turning autistic youths towards trans identities these days. They tend to turn towards computer socializing as being more comfortable than in-person, and social media is a main mechanism for spreading trans concepts and ideology and giving them a sense of belonging and approval which they previously lacked.

  56. neo. I, reluctantly, get that. But for the minors…where are the parents? At their wits’ end already, I suppose.
    But…something just makes me nuts about doing this to people who lack agency, no matter how much they think they want it.

  57. Richard Aubrey:

    Here is one of those parents:

    https://youtu.be/glygWmWD_6w

    Here is another:

    https://youtu.be/z1oh4dsbsb4

    I am extremely upset about all of this, as well, particularly regarding children – although I don’t think an 18-year-old is qualified to make a decision of that magnitude, either. There are some parents who push it or are negligent, but this is not ordinarily a parent-driven phenomenon. Other people are feeding off impressionable youths.

  59. There certainly have been more evil societies than ours throughout history (we might want to re-visit that in a few years), but this gender confusion seems to have come rather quickly and with a force that is startling.

    We’re struggling to understand the causation, and while my answer might seem simplistic, it explains much.

    When we were having the gay marriage debate nearly 20 years ago, some argued the slippery slope, but I don’t remember anyone suggesting the slope would become a cliff and the direction would veer toward gender confusion.

    And “gender confusion” doesn’t completely describe this movement toward gender determination. Parents are making irreversible life altering decisions for their children. These are the same people who don’t want their children exposed to Christianity at an early age, but will chemically and physically alter their bodies on what appears on the surface to be superficial behavior by their children.

  60. For both Neo and Richard Aubrey–

    This case of a detransitioner who had her breasts removed at age 13 and is now suing the California hospital and physicians who treated her from age 12 onward speaks to many of the issues both of you have raised: “Kayla Lovdahl, now 18, says she was pushed to ‘entertain the erroneous belief that she was transgender’ at age 11, after being exposed to online influencers, according to the lawsuit she filed in California State Court against Kaiser Foundation Hospitals and four doctors. . . . Not knowing what to do when their daughter claimed she was a boy, her parents sought out help from medical professionals who quickly affirmed the girl’s idea that she was transgender, Lovdahl said. . . . Lovdahl additionally accused the hospital and doctors of not providing her and her parents proper ‘informed consent,’ which would have included in-depth therapy, something she said never happened.”

    https://nypost.com/2023/06/17/woman-sues-hospital-for-removing-her-breasts-when-she-was-13-years-old/

    I doubt that cases like this are limited to California; there are detransitioners all over the country by now, and some of them at least have a lawyer or two on speed dial.

  61. Pingback:Instapundit » Blog Archive » NEO: The trans proliferation: Part I (intro and grooming). As part of the effort to understand more

  62. Happy Father’s Day, gentleman.

    -Go hug your kids. Love them. Innoculate them from this Social Marburg Virus.

    I weep for our modern youth…

  63. Jamie — if prefer “Trans mad fad.” It rolls well and is more memorable.

    The goal of “Pedagogy of The Oppressed” by Brazilian Marxist Paulo Freire is to cultivate and exaggerate victim identities among children. That way, reproductive “normies” can be attacked and dethroned. Once identified and nurtured, these “victims” become activists, ready and able to usher in the Heaven in Earth under Equity For All.

    The Man with a plan.

  65. Transing kids is the last phase before the big push to legalize adult-child sex. If kids can consent to puberty blockers, mutilating their healthy bodies, and hormone therapy, it’s one small step more to consenting to sex with adults. That’s the end-goal, and it has been for decades.

  67. That’s the end-goal, and it has been for decades.
    ==
    My surmise a decade ago was that the gay lobby didn’t much care about paedophiles and that active homosexuals were commonly unacquainted with them. Guys in trenchcoats are not fabulous. My wager was that they did take an interest in making life more pleasant for pederasts. I thought they’d pursue their goals by persuading district attorneys to stop bringing charges against male homosexuals for seducing adolescent males. The free trade in pornographic literature was made legal through much the same strategy. I was wrong then. There are vectors at work here I do not understand.

  68. Humbert Humbert is rubbing his hands together in glee, waiting for his next Lolita, one who can’t possibly get pregnant and whose sexual equipment will stay firm and tight forever, to emerge from surgery.
    ==
    Unless my memory’s gone bad, this is inconsistent with the character. Humbert Humbert was excited by pubescent girls. If I recall the plot of the novel, he had at the outset little or no history of actually molesting pubescent girls, just ogling them. He was entranced by Lolita and arranged to make himself a permanent part of her household, something made easy because her mother wanted to possess him. In the novel, it was only after her mother was killed in a road accident that he molested Lolita, and in what seems like a sick-o fantasy, the plot has Lolita volunteering for it. She was also the object of Quilty, who was thoroughly decadent. His rage at Quilty was a consequence of Quilty having lured her away and having used her during her period of prime attractiveness. As Mrs. Richard Schiller, she was no longer of sexual interest to Humbert (even though she was just 17), but an object of personal concern (to a degree) and a catalyst of self-centered anguish (to a larger degree).

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