Consider COVID vaccines and myocarditis
I’ve written before on the incidence of myocarditis after vaccination. It’s rare, although troublesome. Please see this, this, this, and this, and that’s just a sampler of what I’ve written rather than an exhaustive list.
So I’ll not repeat myself here; I’ll just suggest you read the links. What I want to say here is something different. From the start of the COVID phenomenon I’ve been reporting on things and crunching the numbers, and one thing I’ve noticed (both in the official releases and in the people who don’t trust them) is a great deal of failure to acknowledge the fact that all diseases and all vaccines can cause rare and troublesome reactions. That’s part of the risks of life, disease, and vaccination.
For example, if you do a search for articles on non-COVID vaccines and myocarditis, you will learn that there’s always been such a risk even with more conventional vaccines. Take a look at this article reporting on myocarditis following smallpox vaccination (there are plenty of other articles in that vein), or DPT shots. There are more articles, way too many to analyze here.
But it’s illustrative of something I noticed early on, which is that all phenomena relating to COVID have been treated as somehow uniquely awful. And yet the evidence is that they are not uniquely awful. The distrust engendered by the lies and exaggerations told by the CDC and government around COVID has resulted in a backlash that in my opinion is also an exaggeration, although an understandable one.
The standard answer to what I just said is that no research can be trusted, but once you get to that point you are free to believe whatever you wish, and no research-based argument can dissuade you. Therefore it’s beyond the realm of factual debate and into the realm of a belief system.
And yes, you can always find some medical authority who is saying whatever it is you happen to believe. That doesn’t make it so. I’m an equal-opportunity skeptic, but I also think that anecdotal evidence is less trustworthy and meaningful than scientific studies, although I don’t reify the latter.
I am also very very tired of people ascribing every negative event that occurs after a COVID shot to the shot itself. When well over half of America is vaccinated, and a far higher percentage of the elderly and the already-infirm are vaccinated, then adverse events will be occurring on a regular basis. But even before we had COVID shots, some people died suddenly – even young people. And even before we had COVID shots, some people had cases of cancer that killed them so fast they’d barely had time to be diagnosed.
What I’m asking for – and probably won’t get much of – is some sort of realistic and moderate response to all of this. It’s what I’ve tried to present from the start, as best I can. I plan to keep trying.
because previous instances were not treated as mandatory talisman, which required virtual proscription from those who did not take the shot, nor were extravagant claims about it’s effectiveness,
miguel cervantes:
No, that’s not it. This started prior to the shots, plus anti-vaxxers have existed in great numbers before COVID and COVID shots.
However, it’s certainly the case that the over-reaction here has been on both sides.
Yes, other vaccines cause side effects, the reason I forego ‘flu shots’. They make me ill abed for two weeks with sniffles til spring. Who will explain the roughshod mandatory nature of the covid jabs? Until that happens the only realistic response is what we see. IMO For those so inclined: https://www.purebloodregistry.com/
There has been a lot of overreaction. I’ve tried valiantly to suppress the thought that two people I loved, cancer patients who were doing well, who went downhill and died after getting the shots, were side effect victims. I’ll never know. And I know other cancer patients who got the shots and are still fine.
“scientific studies” is a term presuming they got it right.
See numerous hits for “irreproducibility” and “non-reproducibility” and various versions of same for “replication”.
They’re all studies or experiments and they got published. So did, famously, Wakefield in Lancet about MMR and autism.
“Sokal Squared” fooled so many editors that the scientific community condemned the perps for experimenting on human subjects outside of relevant protocols. The human subjects in question were….editors. One’s confidence in scientific literature–“IT WAS PUBLISHED IN NEJM!!!!” whatever it was-takes another hit.
An anecdote can be a flat lie, or a completely honest description of what happened in a small universe, i.e. a physician’s own practice. Or possibly a hospital.
And what might be studies can be contested. See various hits for “Peru” and invermectin, and “India” and ivermectin.
Ivermectin scared the powers that be so badly that Rolling Stone ran up one of their most clumsy–worse than the UVa rape hoax–bogus stories on it.
cui bono? Did Pfizer make a zillion dollars? In other circumstances, which is to say even other drugs, that would be slam-dunk evidence of guilt and greed.
Did the Little Hitlers get their jollies making life bad for the rest of us?
Could you be cancelled for pointing to studies showing masks were, at best, useless?
It’s now been shown–which is to say officially admitted–that from a third to three quarters of Covid hospitalizations are “incidental”. In other words, the folks are there for something else and test positive for Covid, too. Including injuries. This does not relieve the hospitals from their protocols regarding Covid. True. But not relevant in terms of the spread and danger of the disease.
In other words, there have been so many….lies, if you wish, or By-Golly True assertions from Authority which seemed dodgy in the first place and gradually faded if not reversed that….skepticism is justified.
The link is to Xylanta. https://www.1mg.com/drugs/xylanta-400-mg-20-mg-tablet-236628 Inoffensive antacid.
Note the minimal side effects. Not at all like the really scary ones you’ll hear about other pharmaceuticals on television ads.
But the closest thing to ads for Covid vax, Public Service Announcements, mentioned not a single one. Hence, when they began to be reported, it looked as if Something was going on we hadn’t been told about. That you signed for it when getting the shot is not the point. Publicly…there were no side effects.
I suppose one might argue about how many worse times the government and other institutions have shot themselves in the foot, but this has to be in the top, say, three. And it’s not at all surprising people are skeptical. Since it’s not an argument about evolution or something not particularly relevant to one’s life, but an argument about what to stick into your three-year-old–keeping mind an EUA isn’t FDA approval–such skepticism is going to be noisy.
The lab leak theory is now socially acceptable. Used to be, it made you some kind of nutcase. You couldn’t get away with saying it ought to be looked at. No. You were wrong on so many levels….. But now….it’s socially okay. This is not how science is supposed to work and in the main, it doesn’t. This time, it did.
I wonder if a parent who tried to intro some studies showing masks were useless and actively harmful to a school board discussion came to Merrick Garland’s attention. Might have been able to complete their statement?
Science doesn’t work like that. Except this time. I excuse a whole lot of skepticism, no matter how flaky.
Where there’s smoke, there’s fire. Widespread excess deaths cannot be swept away. Fauci and the CDC’s repeated moving of the goal posts should alone be a huge red flag for those with eyes to see.
The UK’s yellow card system, estimated to only reveal 10-15% reportage has extremely high numbers of noticeable adverse reactions. We can be sure that the western government’s reportage is suppressing the actual truth. Thailand just became the first country to rescind its contract with Pfizer.
“Europe: “The country with the lowest vaccination rate has the lowest excess mortality rate and the country with the highest vaccination rate has the highest excess mortality”…
https://www.revolver.news/2022/09/europe-the-country-with-the-lowest-vaccination-rate-has-the-lowest-excess-mortality-rate-and-the-country-with-the-highest-vaccination-rate-has-the-highest-excess-mortality/
I think it’s a consequence of two things, principally: The corruption of the scientific process of data collection and analysis (a good example is the VAERS database and the stripping-out of cases or the reluctance by medical doctors to file a case, for whatever reason), and the ongoing willingness by the media to distort or decline to present newsworthy material in a reputable way. This leaves the masses with very few options, other than to engage in a barrage-like stream of anecdotes, which contribute nothing aside from titillation, bias confirmation, and fear. It’s been a public policy disaster since Day 1 and shows no signs of professional reform.
In general, I agree with everything that Neo wrote in this post, but I’d also quibble with almost everything. Honestly, I’m worn out by all the complications, both political and medical, surrounding covid. Almost every issue feels like a black hole of equivocation, and I have neither the energy nor the expertise to sort it all out.
For example, Neo said:
“[I]f you do a search for articles on non-COVID vaccines and myocarditis, you will learn that there’s always been such a risk even with more conventional vaccines. Take a look at this article reporting on myocarditis following smallpox vaccination (there are plenty of other articles in that vein), or DPT shots. There are more articles, way too many to analyze here.”
Yes, but …
It’s true that non-covid vaccines present risks, including the risk of myocarditis, but it’s also true that, in 2021, the CDC’s VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Effect Reporting System) records a shocking increase in deaths attributed to vaccine adverse effects (https://openvaers.com/covid-data). Of course, 2021 was the first year of the massive covid vaccinations.
Why did this happen? The question can’t be ignored. Can we attribute the enormous increase in this kind of death merely to the enormous increase in the number of vaccinations? Is it entirely proportional? Do the covid vaccines have any special risk? And so on.
neo,
I agree 100% with your take on this subject. Way too much certainty from some on all sides of this issue. We will learn more over the years as more data points reveal themselves. Although I have some strong opinions about many of the policies that were enforced I know it is still too soon to assess the reality of the virus, vaccines and their impacts on public health.
An additional point I don’t recall in this post (although I’m almost certain you have stated it before); many of the symptoms people (perhaps legitimately) claim they developed from the jabs are consistent with symptoms from COVID itself. In other words, people who may legitimately be suffering side effects from a vaccine may very well have developed the same symptom, or worse, from an infection. Even if data indicate the jabs are causing serious issues for many, it is entirely possible not getting the vaccine, and getting actual COVID may have caused the same issue for those people.
Cornflour:
The VAERS data is next to meaningless, something I’ve written about before. I refer you to this post. I also discussed the meaninglessness of VAERS data in many comments (too tired to look for them now).
I understand your exhaustion with this, which I share. But I keep noticing, over and over, that most of what people think they absolutely know concerning COVID is wrong.
Neo said: “What I’m asking for – and probably won’t get much of – is some sort of realistic and moderate response to all of this.”
I’m with you on this one. Almost everyone I know outside of immediate family have been vaxxed. I personally can’t say that, among those people I know, anyone has had a serious adverse reaction so far. I also don’t personally know anyone who was hospitalized with covid. My family has refused to live in fear, but as with everyone, we’ve lived in serious frustration.
I keep hearing stories about increased incidences of various things (heart attacks, strokes, myocarditis, cancers, blood clots), and I don’t doubt them, but my personal experience doesn’t support the narrative of either side. Frankly, I hope that continues. I don’t want masses of people to suffer and drop dead. If this past couple of years has taught me anything, it’s that the narratives – including whichever one most flatters my view of things – can’t be trusted.
Geoffrey Britain:
Each of your points is something I’ve refuted and/or cast strong doubt on in other posts of mine. I don’t expect people to read all my posts and certainly not to memorize them, but nevertheless I still find it very frustrating to play a continual game of whack-a-mole with this.
There’s plenty of research linking the excess deaths to other causes (one is drug overdoses, which have gone way up). The article about countries in Europe and vaccinations has flawed logic and cherry-picking. Etc., etc….
Im not opposed to vaccines in principle i have the standard flu vaccine, but im not sanguine with this so called vaccine
Miguel cervantes:
I have always made it clear that I support the right of people to make their own decisions on the vaccine.
neo.
People should be able to make their own choices and good for you on this.
Problem
is the massive amount of pressure; social, formal, informal, legal, condition of employment, etc. in which one’s own choice is irrelevant.
Yes, there’s risk in everything. And yes, a moderate response to both COVID risks and vaccine risks would be better than a hysterical response.
But what exactly IS your moderate position? Are you saying that the COVID-19 vaccines don’t have a higher frequency of serious side effects than other vaccines? If so, what data supports your view?
Yep.
I’m not supposed to return to my local Zen Center until I am fully vaxxed and boosted. And wearing a mask.
I honor Zen and I honor the Buddha. But as far as I am concerned this is not the Dharma nor concern for All Sentient Beings.
Too bad.
Whilst all vaccines may have carried these risks, thats why they were always targeted to demographics where the benefits exceeded the risk. The unique part of the covid vaccination method was this individual cost benefit analysis was tossed out the window in favour of an across the board one size fits all. This was particularly at odds with a risk profile that skewed heavily for the old and infirm but was otherwise mild for most people.
The side effects of the vaccine also appear to skew heavily – but this time to young males. This was hidden by bundling up the data for the whole of population which effectively averaged the risk for one population across the entire population. You could halve the observable risk of breast cancer in a similar way – by taking the number of cases and apportioning across the entire population and not the female population, but this would greatly understate the risk to the relevent demographic.
It appears that this was a deliberate choice, and not an accident.
Addendum: Given the lack of long term studies, any individualised cost benefit analysis would have weighed against vaccination of young people merely on the basis that they would suffer long term effects for a much greater duration due to life span, or suffer a greater loss of life span in the event of death.
If you’re 80+, you aren’t going to give a great deal of weight to long term health implications of the vaccination.
Yes, there is much that we still don’t know, and all sides have jumped to unwarranted conclusions.
But there are two points that are not debatable: The benefits from vaccines for healthy people under the age of 40 (at least) are and were negligible, and consequently not worth the known and unknown risks; and the infringement on the doctor-patient relationship, and threats against doctors’ livelihoods for exercising their best judgments are a continuing outrage.
These questions may only be answered by epidemiology, and even then, there are complicating factors which may make answers elusive. Are the excess deaths from the mRNA shots, from the effects of the lockdowns (missed cancer screenings, missed treatment, depression, alcoholism and drug overdoses), or from some other factors?
The most alarming things about the past few years have been the coercion, the lack of good data, and the lies from “authorities.”
Should Scott Adams retract his magnanimous concession speech? That is unlikely. Likewise I will not unsmoke my victory cigar.
The vax game is over for purebloods, who now observe with curiosity as the experiment plays out. Was the Covid vax part of a depopulation move by progressive elites, who are also sabotaging the food supply?
Clouds of uncertainty loom.
What is a moderate position, I wonder? Many of my friends are medical specialists or medical providers, and to a one, they have all been vaccinated and boosted to keep their job. My daughter decided to become pregnant, did some reading, found alarming numbers that were sketchily covered (mostly about miscarriages), and decided not to get vaccinated accordingly. She had to apply for, and received, a dispensation from her employer, and I’m glad she did. Her husband decided to vaccinate. Her child was born healthy and on schedule and all have been fine.
My sister decided to not get vaccinated because she didn’t like the disinformation and public policy rollout by the fascistas, and went the additional miles (x 100) to make sure her place of business was sanitized every day, multiple times per day. She has used the services of the COVID Frontline Medical team more than once and found it to be terrific – it’s been her source of Ivermectin and treatment protocols similar to what Joe Rogan has outlined. But her kids got vaccinated, and her husband, who works for a large medical complex, did too.
She was a primary caregiver for my 90+ yr-old mom too – and she went the extra mile there, too. She treated the risk honestly and responsibly, just didn’t believe the sales tales about the vaccines. My mom was vaccinated, as all residents at the center were. We would drive up there and visit her standing outside her ground floor room.
My brother’s family all got vaxxed. My S.I.L. got Bell’s Palsy a week after the shot, paralyzing half her face, and isn’t completely over it yet. I’ve been told that it was treated as a coincidence, ‘probably nothing to do with the shot’, by the doctor.
My wife got vaccinated because it was the only way to travel internationally to see her ailing dad. The travel also allowed her to load up on Ivermectin, available over-the-counter there. I chose not to get the shot, for reasons similar to my sister. It was a case of struggling to make sense of decisions that were being made, to all appearances, in defiance of both common and scientific sense. I couldn’t make myself believe the other people weren’t crazy, and there were too many people in public behaving bizarrely.
I’ve had my Vitamin D levels checked (blood test) and have been rigorous about taking supplements. Due to COVID, I added additional C, D3, and zinc. And I’ve had COVID 3 times, none of them worse than a cold – the first time, I was oblivious. And although I don’t get flu shots, I’ve had many vaccines, including shingles, this past year.
To me, the moderate response was to evaluate what was being officially communicated and make my own decision. It appeared to me that actually being ‘moderate’ was something that was actively criminalized during the pandemic, mostly by the kind of people that relish writing up infractions. ‘Compliance’ was the order of the day, and anything else would fit the definition of ‘immoderate’, because ‘Shut Up.’
“What I’m asking for – and probably won’t get much of – is some sort of realistic and moderate response to all of this.”
Realism and moderation are not always appropriate responses, just further steps down the road to Hell. There was no moderate way to get rid of slavery in the United States. Or perhaps a better example is that there was no way to avoid most of the excesses of anti-communism during the Cold War. The threat of the Soviet Union and international communism was so severe that there simply wasn’t time and energy to waste on niceties.
Or to put it even another way, if you want to prevent another botched and corrupt response to a future pandemic, you might have to tolerate a little hysteria and paranoia in the backlash to this one.
Mike
“…is a great deal of failure to acknowledge the fact that all diseases and all vaccines can cause rare and troublesome reactions. That’s part of the risks of life, disease, and vaccination.”
Do agree that this observation is an important part of the COVID vaccines discussion.
Also think that the fact that injuries caused by the COVID vaccines are not covered by the federal national Vaccine Injury Compensation Program ** is an important part of the discussion too. COVID vaccines are covered by a different program, the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP).
** = VICP compensates people who may have been injured by most routinely administered vaccines (e.g., pediatric and seasonal influenza vaccines).
Since 2006 approximately 72% of VICP petitions have received compensation. Since 2010 approximately 10% of CICP petitions have received compensation.
While most of the population may not even be aware of VICP or CICP, the federal government is very much aware of the programs – how used to manage financial liability – and of the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act (PREP Act). ^^
^^ = Authorizes the Secretary of HHS (the Secretary) to limit legal liability for losses resulting from the administration of medical countermeasures such as diagnostics, treatments, and vaccines. CICP operates under the PREP Act.
To me it is not just: “The distrust engendered by the lies and exaggerations told by the CDC and government around COVID”. It is also: Actions speak louder than words.
If the COVID vaccines are as safe as other vaccines, they should be covered by VICP.
Neo says, “But it’s illustrative of something I noticed early on, which is that all phenomena relating to COVID have been treated as somehow uniquely awful.” My take on some people’s obsession with the awfulness of COVID itself, vaccine side effects, etc., is that it can be explained in part as displacement– specifically, displacement of anger provoked by the social and economic disruptions inflicted on ordinary people by our “betters” onto statistical reports about COVID cases and the vaccines. I’m inclined to think that if people hadn’t been subjected to such long lockdowns, onerous masking and testing requirements, lectures about social distancing, and all the other folderol, they could read the stats at a cooler emotional temperature.
Speaking only for myself, I noticed that I always had to calm down after a trip to the supermarket before reading COVID reports because I was so exasperated by the petty tyranny imposed by the store: arrows on the floor of each aisle to direct traffic flow; large signs about the mask mandate, including a warning that noncompliance would result in expulsion from the premises; public service announcements every 5 minutes always ending with the unctuous injunction, “Thank you for helping to keep everyone safe!”; and other rules that implied that shoppers were an undifferentiated mass of mentally defective third-graders. I would rip off my mask the moment I was back inside my car and say the Lord’s Prayer before turning the key in the ignition because I felt frankly abused by these local policies. And I made sure to decompress– play with the cats for a few minutes or listen to music after putting the groceries away before dealing with COVID as a medical topic in my work as a writer and editor. I know that I need to be as objective and analytical as possible in my work, and recognizing that the city’s and university’s COVID mandates got on my nerves was a big first step in getting past emotional reactions.
Frankilo:
I’ve written a huge number of posts on COVID. Do a search on the blog and you can read them all. My position, based on tons of evidence, is that the COVID vaccines have slightly more side effects but only slightly (particularly a very slightly increased risk of myocarditis in young men, which is usually mild and self-limited), and not especially bad ones for the most part. I also believe that they’re not all that helpful to young people and there should never have been mandates. I think they help reduce the severity of COVID in the elderly and infirm, and are worthwhile in that group. This is all evidence-based and documented in many many posts and comments from me on this blog, over the last few years and beginning right at the beginning of the COVID mess. I believe lockdowns and masks were not especially effective against the disease and have done lots of psychological damage to people and also damage to the economy.
I also have noticed many and perhaps most people don’t understand statistics and often attempt to use them to prove things they don’t prove.
Moderate reasonableness is rare in a world gone mad.
We’re at the weird stage now. (MSNBC anchor)Yasmin Vossoughian was fully vaccinated, developed pericarditis & myocarditis, and now blames a cold for her new health troubles. Also, probably has shamed someone recently for not following the science.
In a social or work setting, one might ignore the elephant in the room briefly just to be civil, then jump at the first excuse to leave.
Pretty sure we should all wait 75 years before discussing this.
Hold on. Seventy-three years would be more accurate at this point…
(Gotta strive for accuracy here…)
Related?
“The Dam of Lies Surrounding COVID Lab Leak Is Breaking”—
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2023/02/02/covid-lab-leak.aspx
I guess the good news is that NOW the usual suspects (INC.) are starting to think (make that, “REMEMBER”) that gain-of-function might not be such a great idea AFTER all…ESPECIALLY when exported to—and hidden in—foreign research centers with leaky door-seals and questionable cultures of responsibility—say, unlike those really responsible places like, oh, the CDC, NIH, FDA, WHO, etc)…
More good news! When established pharmas like Pfizer decide to perform GOF (for the good of all humankind, amen—once more, with SPIRIT, AMEN), their highly-attuned consciences compel them to jump through hoops to declare that what they’re doing is really NOT GOF (N-GOF).
Now THAT’S PROGRESS!
More depth beyond Scott Adams’ magnanimous concession to purebloods:
How the Unvaccinated Got It Right
If the vaccine-sceptical were wrong, there would still have been two good reasons not to suppress their data or views. First, we are a liberal democracy that values free speech as a fundamental right and second, their data and arguments could be shown to be fallacious. The fact that the powers-that-be decided to violate our fundamental values and suppress discussion invites the question of ‘Why?’ That was not satisfactorily answered beyond, “It’s easier for them to impose their mandates in a world where people do not dissent.” But that is an argument against compliance, rather than for it.
Coercion and censorship didn’t just argue louder than the fake science supporting the jab, coercion and censorship implicitly suggested the science was, in fact, fake. Otherwise there would have been no need to coerce and censor. Moreover, coercion and censorship created a moral imperative to resist those coercing and censoring.
“…coercion and censorship implicitly suggested the science was, in fact, fake.”
Absolutely.
Just like you KNOW that the election was stolen when a smidgeon of a suspicion of a suggestion of a thought of an idea that the elections were stolen (or that Hunter Biden and Dear Old Dad might be a wee bit crooked) MAKE ONES—NECESSARILY—an unwholesome, unwashed, inbred, impure, rabid, Trumpist, anti-American INSURRECTIONIST.
(Curious, that…heh…)
The Eleventh Commandment! THOU SHALT NOT QUESTION the Narrative (actually, it’s the First)…
And what it means is that…the Narrative is total, uncut, unadulterated GARBAGE.
Related:
With the misinformation dam breached (see above), the UN feels compelled to unleash its vigilantes on its enemies: the unconvinced and unpersuaded…IOW the un-brainwashed.
“UN Initiative Targets And Doxxes Doctors And Nurses Who Don’t Follow COVID-19 Narrative”—
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/un-initiative-targets-and-doxes-doctors-and-nurses-who-dont-follow-covid-19-narrative
Just like “1984” has become a DIY manual for the Holy Ones among us, seems that “The Lives of Others” has become an educational film….
The other side of the coin:
‘From colds to commotio cordis, medical pundits reaching to rule out COVID vax in health scares;
‘MSNBC host’s doctor blames her consecutive heart-inflammation hospitalizations on “overactive immune response” to cold.—
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/health/colds-commotio-cordis-medical-pundits-grasp-straws-rule-out-covid-vax-near
Nope, couldn’t be Covid, nossir, no way!…
(Especially since we’ve redefined “Death due to Covid”…I mean the first definition served its purposes amazingly well…but now it’s time to move on…for the sake of the American people and all that is good and proper, we MUST move on….
…OTOH, who needs Covid when you got…President Fentanyl and his merrye men and women at the helm (well, so to speak)!…
” ‘One pill kills.’ Father of teen killed by fentanyl testifies how Biden border policy fuels crisis;
” Hays County, Texas, resident Brandon Dunn Hays lost his son to illicit fentanyl poisoning last year. Dunn testified Wednesday before the U.S. House.” —
https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/father-teen-killed-fentanyl-testifies-house-judiciary-committee
(Less than “one pill” actually, but let’s not quibble…)
Opening grafs:
‘ Hays County, Texas, resident Brandon Dunn Hays lost his son to illicit fentanyl poisoning last year. His son and two other teenage boys from the same rural county died of fentanyl overdoses less than 60 days apart.
‘ Dunn testified Wednesday before the U.S. House Judiciary Committee, which held its first hearing on “The Biden Border Crisis, Part One.” …
‘ Dunn is the co-founder of The Forever 15 Project, a nonprofit he and his wife founded after their son, Noah, died last August.
‘ A high school sophomore, Noah “was murdered by a drug dealer selling counterfeit Percocet pills,” Dunn testified. The pill contained no Percocet. Instead, it contained 8 milligrams of fentanyl, he said. Two milligrams is considered a lethal dose.
‘ Noah was the first of three fentanyl victims in less than two months in the rural county located southwest of Austin. Two other teenage boys died from counterfeit Xanax and Percocet pills containing illicit fentanyl last summer….’
Which raises the question: When is a crisis NOT a crisis? (And it’s corollary: When is the Truth NOT the Truth…speaking of which…)
+ Bonus:
“Fix is in: FBI bungling case against Biden over top-secret documents”—
https://nypost.com/2023/02/01/fbi-bungling-case-against-biden-over-top-secret-documents/
Go on! Tell me yer surprised!
PA Cat,
Your point is very valid. What folks were subjected to during the pandemic makes it difficult for emotion not to creep in when folks examine the data. Many public and private institutions stoked the animosity, as did the media.
That NY Post link, Barry Meislin @6:32 a.m., is from Jonathan Turley. He is being unusually mild in saying the FBI is “bungling” the Biden document case. They are proceeding in a way which will make any sort of charges impossible to prosecute. Recent history (H. Clinton) indicates this is deliberate, not merely clumsy.
Yes, absolutely deliberate, positively intentional, purely on purpose….
And why not?
The Democrats MUST stay in power. (Yes, it’s that simple.)
Which is why ANY and ALL Democratic Party scandals connected to Biden must be whitewashed, covered up, made to disappear and then turned around to attack/intimidate/incriminate** investigating—AKA “POUNCING”—Republicans (or any other perceived threats and/or whistleblowers).
I suspect that all this is strongly connected with the WTF’s “GREAT RESET”, which MUST be enabled in order to save the planet (as well as the elites’ bank accounts).
Which is why, parenthetically—no, not parenthetically but absolutely positively—Trump had to be stopped, first in 2016 ff. (AKA “Insurance policy”) and then in 2020 (AKA “fortifying” the election), which efforts continue as we speak…
** See, e.g.,:
1. https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/ariz-secretary-state-refers-kari-lake-criminal-prosecution-over-tweeting
2. https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/hunter-biden-demands-investigations-reporting-his-laptop-threatens-sue-tucker
3. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/feds-arrest-former-abc-news-journalist-accused-possessing-child-pornog-rcna68642
Cf:
https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1524487796458729472
– – – – – – – – – – – –
And so it goes(TM)….
If such outrages make you want to unleash your inner neanderthal…then gaze on this with awe (YMMV)…as you remember why “Biden”—though he might inflict, as he intends to do, incredible damage—is doomed to fail.
“…Budding astronomers share fascinating snaps of incredibly rare space rock last seen by the Neanderthals 50,000 years ago”—
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11704855/Did-green-comet-seen-Neanderthals-whizzed-past-Earth-night.html
Neo, you say “all phenomena relating to COVID have been treated as somehow uniquely awful. And yet the evidence is that they are not uniquely awful.”
There are quite a few reports analyzing data from only VAERS (which from all accounts is woefully underreported) that show the opposite to be true. Here is one such example, with data taken exclusively from ONLY the VAERS system:
Report 48 (Dr. Naomi Wolf): VAERS – 76% of Vaccine-Related Miscarriages from the Past 30 Years Occurred Once Pregnant Women Started Receiving COVID-19 Vaccines
https://palexander.substack.com/p/report-48-dr-naomi-wolf-vaers-76
And then there is this:
Excess deaths by week, 2020-2022 in 30+ countries, including the US:
https://stats.oecd.org/index.aspx?queryid=104676
Numbers for the US alone in weeks 1 and 2 of 2022 show 32.2% and 40.1% excess deaths, respectively. The actual numbers are 19,452 excess deaths in week 1 and 24,339 excess deaths in week 2.
If these are numbers are not proof enough that there is something very very wrong with the vaccine, I am completely at a loss imagining what further proof would be needed — or accepted — as such by the doubters.
Neo is going to yell at me, but…
As a famous experimental physicist said, if you have to use statistics to find a result, you are doing the wrong experiment. He was talking about particle physics where the existence of a “particle” is shown by a statistical blip.
For medicine, to me, the same applies only more so. It is such a complicated system with variables that can’t be controlled generally. Statistics therefore are meaningless for a conclusion in EITHER direction. If there were data with sample size in the 100k between a control population and a vaxed population, in a well designed study, I might consider those results. Until then, I take the fact that our “betters” have egregiously lied to us over the past 3 years as a more important data point regarding the safety of the vax.
Heh, but of course!
“New tactic: Hunter Biden is the ‘laptop from hell’ victim”—
https://nypost.com/2023/02/01/new-tactic-hunter-biden-is-the-laptop-from-hell-victim/
Holy Crackhead! In an absolutely amazing comeback and with some pretty fancy footwork, Hunter turns the table on his attackers; yep, he sure has ’em on the defensive, now!
But then nothing less could be expected “The smartest guy I know”!!
I pointed out who found the first batch of documents, who she is married to, who she likely contacted first, they hired this shambling dolt, not the other way around,
garland is ill intentioned but he’s like king theoden, with minders like lisa monaco and cop killer fan girl kristen clarke
fauci, is pure evil, I have no doubt about that, only a few people have really followed his path of devastation, michael fumento (who was exiled to the philippines and robert f kennedy jr, of course we know that gag worthy response of courtiers like sally quinn, but she’s a witch, (self admitted, and not a good one like elizabeth montgomery, more like veronica lake)
physicsguy, you may want to look at the article and chart in the BMJ article of October 2020 that reported on the study results (that existed at that time) that garnered EUA. The only stated affirmative was that a vaccine recipient would not get symptomatic COVID-19. Curiously, wouldn’t “end up hospitalized die” was reported as a negative as was the transmission factor. The Chief Medical Officer of Moderna explained the study would have had to be longer to ascertain the transmission possibility. But here is the thing, immediately upon obtaining EUA, the Control Group was allowed to get the vaccine. This “study” ends this year. Science as we have understood it was breached in an unbelievable manner here. Additionally, the elderly, immunocompromised, pregnant/nursing and children were excluded from the study. The coercion, threat of job loss, mandates, despicable use of social media at the helm are all part of the package. And we now hear Pfizer made $100,000,000 in 2022. I’ve drawn my own conclusions.
in this innocuous word salad is a filtering system
https://www.cms.gov/files/document/mm12578-april-2022-update-medicare-severity-diagnosis-related-group-ms-drg-grouper-and-medicare-code.pdf
Correction, Pfizer made $100 billion in 2022, not million.
I only recently discovered your blog, Neo, and have been very pleasantly surprised by your thoughtfulness, including the above. If our side doesn’t stand for objective truth any longer, even if that concept has been almost broken down by decades of postmodern relativism, who will? We are right to be skeptical of the narratives spun by the medical and government establishment, but have to check our eagerness to spin our own as well.
Thank you, and very sorry to hear about your recent loss.
I am not an anti-vaxer. But I suggest any time a new vaccine comes out that you not be the leading (or as we cynically call it, the “bleeding” edge)…unless not taking the vaccine could have devastating results. I wait least 5 years if not 10 before taking a new vaccine. Previously, I’ve taken every vaccine. But after the Diamond Princess, we knew Covid was not what we saw on the streets of China. So taking a vaccine so soon after it was developed was a mistake, because we knew the illness we were battling was not a devastating illness, and the vaccines were too new. Remember, up until covid, there was no such thing as an mRNA vaccine-no matter how much we money we threw at this research for AIDS. And I am hesitant to say we have a successful *vaccine* for Covid.
Tina, I have a left-wing Left Coast relative who said the same about the mRNA shots — that they had not been adequately tested. She said that until Biden was elected, and then, when the new not-Trump administration pushed them, she switched over to being pro-shot, pro-lockdown, and pro-masking. This is not a logical way to look at this.
they corrupted so many prestige publications like jama and lancet (yes they are more often fraud, but still) often with money from the likes of scam bankrupt fraud*) with regard to therapeutic data like ivm and hcq,
then you look at who were the face of this marketing campaign, lets leave out that pitiful soul from veritas, but peter hotez, and leanna wren and deig ling, and they metered and proscribed berenson for pointing this out,
these were not accidental circumstances, but really malign ones out of a robin cook story,
Not to worry, Sharon.
All those zeroes are hard to wrap one’s head around…
If it’s any solace, here’s someone else who’s having trouble with numbers….
“Adani Contagion Spreads As Citi Halts Margin Loans On Debt”—
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/adani-contagion-spreads-citi-halts-margin-loans-debt
i think this was a hit on adani, because hes a big modi supporter,
why was lehman bros targeted in 2008, because it didn’t go along with goldman’s exorbitant price on oil, and they knew it was the glass jaw in the economy, the core of lehman was tishman speyer a huge affordable housing development,
who recently worked for tishman speyer, the woman who went missing, presumed dead, what properties did she own, among others the building where those fake secret service agents were found, actually iranian and pakistani operatives,
The principle flaws in the Covid vaccine story are two. One it is ineffective and two it was made mandatory for a low risk group. My wife and I had the first two jabs because we are old (85 in 3 weeks) and she has a history of respiratory illness. We have not had any of the boosters and will not take them. I am well aware of the risks of usual vaccines. A pathologist friend developed Guillain-Barre Syndrome after the “swine flu” vaccine and was disabled for a year. An important difference is that those vaccines are effective and diseases like Measles and Polio are serious matters.
In 1935, Dr Maurice Brodie developed a polio vaccine from formalin inactivated virus.
The vaccine was administered to thousands of children and 16 cases of polio resulted. This resulted in cancelling his research and widespread criticism.
Dr William Hallock Park, director of the New York City Health Department Research Laboratories, thereupon decided to discontinue development of Brodie’s vaccine, which he had sponsored.[13] But some experts felt Brodie’s vaccine deserved further study; the case against it was inconclusive and too hastily drawn.
That was the result of premature use of a vaccine for a lethal disease. The widespread, and mandatory, use of a vaccine for a disease that was mild in younger adults and children is indefensible, in my opinion. mRNA technology is new and not widely tested. It does not resemble traditional vaccines in its mechanism and effects. It should have been restricted to those at higher risk and made voluntary. It should certainly not be given to young children.
Maybe.
Several of the commentators on ZH (an “interesting” group of folks) are of the opinion that this is “Biden” payback for India buying and providing a backdoor for Russian oil.
Who knows? But it looks like India—and its billions of people, along with its political echelons—are going to be in for a whole lot of pain, and very soon…along with some formerly “reputable” banking institutions….
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Yeah, that’s a curious disappearance. Do co-incidences like that happen?
I thought that in this case, it was just the husband who needed a bit of cash…but once again, who knows? Could be deeper.
(Also didn’t know that there were Pakistanis involved. I thought it was just Iranians… Also was gobsmacked that the Secret Service got caught napping…unless they were conducting a sting, though it sure didn’t look like it… But—that refrain, again—who really knows?)
once you follow the rabbit hole, you run into the ground hog (cue caddy shack)
there are a lot of coincidences, Russia has long standing ties to India, back in the Nehru era, as does South Africa, the Congress people are out of power now,
“The principle flaws in the Covid vaccine story are two….”
I would add a third: The systematic and wall-to-wall REJECTION / DENIAL / RIDICULE / SUPPRESSION of alternate treatments—and their proponents—that were already-known, already-tested and far, far cheaper, in favor of the questionable, if spectacularly lucrative, “one-size-fits all” vax scheme; i.e., lucrative for certain Big Pharma companies and their political enablers.
(I don’t believe that this can, or should, be neglected when discussing/analzying/dissecting “the Covid vaccine story”… In fact, I think it’s an integral part of the plot.)
circling back, remember modi provided a sizable consignment of hcq to affected areas, we know how the research studies disregarded zinc as a catalytic agent, and misgauged the dose, of course there were poor results,
Except that the Zelenko Protocol had it right from pretty early on. (But not only him.)
This was of course squelched.
…and then there was Ivermectin….
I’ve tried valiantly to suppress the thought that two people I loved, cancer patients who were doing well, who went downhill and died after getting the shots, were side effect victims. — Kate
My S.I.L. got Bell’s Palsy a week after the shot, paralyzing half her face, and isn’t completely over it yet. I’ve been told that it was treated as a coincidence, ‘probably nothing to do with the shot’, by the doctor. — Aggie
Exactly my situation Kate.
Her exceptionally slow progessing cancer was somehow impossibly converted into fast growth and she passed. It is not possible to know with any certainty what happened.
A good friend got Bell’s Palsy 2 or 3 days after his second booster shot. It was supposed to last a couple months, but now 9 or 10 months later he still has it.
There are some entirely unique aspects to this vaccine.
(1) The antigen produced by the vaccine, the S or spike protein, is about 7 nanometers in size. All conventional vaccines use actual virus particles that have been modified and so are on the order of about 100 nanometers or larger.
Various membranes in our bodies and the cells of our bodies play a crucial role in blocking or allowing the passage of particles and substances. The blood-brain barrier is an important one.
Given the tiny size of the spike antigen it will likely go everywhere in the body.
Also,
(2) This spike antigen is uniquely toxic to the endothelial cells lining the blood vessels.
Cancers rely on stimulating vascularization, or the creation of new blood vessels, for its growth. The spike antigen attacks blood vessels. Connections?
physicsguy is right. It is so complex we will never know. But I think nano-particle producing mRNA vaccines should be shelved until we do know more.
TommyJay, we took the first two doses willingly, knowing they were experimental, because of our age. Like Mike K, we won’t get any boosters.
The even sadder part is that the mRNA technology is now subject to great doubt in the minds of many. A future shot using this technology will have to be very, very stringently tested, over long periods, before I would agree to get one — unless we were faced with something that really did seem like the Black Death, which COVID-19 was not.
Agree that the aggressive and mandatory, not to mention social, pressure to get the vax added to the skepticism.
Pa+ suggested “displacement” which is one of my faves. Yes, getting jerked around at the market, see the bigs ignoring it, leaves an anger which…has no place to go. Except to, in this case, anti-vax. Whatever the vax’s faults, this was like turbo-boost.
Related:
“IgG4 and cancer – a mechanism of action for cancer relapse and onset”
https://jessicar.substack.com/p/igg4-and-cancer-a-mechanism-of-action
One wonders whether taking Ivermectin might help as a prophylactic AFTER recovering from Covid and/or having received the shot.
Using DuckDuckGo to search for:
ivermectin as prophylactic
or
ivermectin as prophylactic after covid recovery
yields results that range generally from very positive to extremely positive.
Seems that only the official US govt medical agences (and MSM articles quoting them) are entirely negative. (Surprise!)
OTOH, I’m not sure that the “AFTER Covid” part was addressed adequately by any of the articles found.
Perhaps someone here has something to say about the usefulness of taking Ivermective following recovery. Certainly, continuing to take Vitamins C and D/D3, and also Quercetin are recommended.
+ Bonus:
“Could an Enzyme in a Traditional Japanese Dish Hold the Key to Treating COVID-19?;
“Natt?, a popular Japanese breakfast food, contains an anti-clotting, anti-spike protein powerhouse called nattokinase”—
https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/could-an-enzyme-in-a-traditional-japanese-dish-hold-the-key-to-treating-covid-19_5011543.html
Considering the low incidence of disease progression in the general population and even the highest risk cohort (i.e. parent/hood with comborbidities), the excess adverse events caused by the pathogenic protein in the non-sterilizing vaxxx cannot be considered a viable treatment, let alone a moral choice, although it would be ethical under a mandate and other modes of coercion.
Could you be cancelled for pointing to studies showing masks were, at best, useless?
Canceled, but, thankfully, not aborted.
Postoperative wound infections and surgical face masks: a controlled study
The physics of the problem is an predictor of their viability.
I took the first two shits willingly, then happy to go out and about.
Now I regret it. Too many “sudden deaths”. Heart attacks in young people, which was never heard of, seem common now.
Yeah, this could be news reports being pushed now on things that would not make it out of hyper-local press two years ago, but there is seemingly lots and lots of battle prep happening to make heart problems seem a lot more common than they used to be. Never mind athletes dropping like flies all over the world. That NFL player who collapsed, how much do you want to bet he had an EKG and a full check-up before we was signed for millions? The evidence is all around us.
The one that really shocked me was just listening to the radio and hearing commercials about myocarditis on the radio. I’m not making this up – something that was never heard about two years ago has radio commercials in California to get yourself checked out. WTF? That one really got me, you’d be a fool to out more of that crap in your body.
@ Banned Lizard > “More depth beyond Scott Adams’ magnanimous concession to purebloods: How the Unvaccinated Got It Right”
The comments at the linked post were as informative and interesting as the article itself. Thanks.
I had forgotten how long ago the Orthodox rabbis saw what was happening.
Yesterday’s Project Veritas release is here, as well as many references.
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/third-dr-j-t-walkerpfizer-project?sd=pf