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Biden’s classified documents are Trump’s doing! — 45 Comments

1. I wish it were only Dems trying to saddle Trump with a share of Biden’s guilt. One of National Review’s columnists though said much the same: that because Biden didn’t handle classified documents perfectly, we now can’t hold Trump accountable for handling them flagrantly. “Perfectly” and “flagrantly” are his adjectives, not mine.

   Surprising pushback in the comments there, as the NR commentariat is dominated by NeverTrump.

2. Biden’s people could have been the ones to disclose this. Perhaps he has a representative savy enough to know that this was a problem. Torpedoing the Trump prosecution enrages the Democratic base, but it’s no problem for Biden. He wants to run against Trump anyway.

   And if Biden’s people knew that they had a problem, disclosing it to the DOJ a few days before the midterm is perfect timing. There was almost no chance that the DOJ was going to announce an investigation before the midterms, but there can be no accusation that Biden sat on this until after the midterms. (Biden tossed that hot potato to Garland.) Also, I think Garland was going to indict Trump. If Biden had waited and allowed this to come out after Trump was indicted, Biden might well have been cooked.

   As it is, Biden is going to endure a week or so of bad news cycles. Then both he and his preferred Republican opponent are going to have a few very good news cycles when both are “exonerated” after Garland declines to indict either one.

3. Bauxite:

   What do you mean by saying Biden’s people knew they had a problem? With the papers? What problem? The papers have been there or elsewhere for 6 years and were not reported till early November of this year. What changed? I can’t see that anything about the papers changed. I don’t think some Republican snuck into Biden’s garage and found them. Someone had to purposely reveal them after all this time, but why?

   And if Garland was going to indict Trump, he would have done so before revealing the Biden papers. If he had the goods on Trump, he could have done it a long time ago.

   None of this makes sense to me.

4. Great hypotheticals and analysis.

   Surely there are other things they can hold against Biden that aren’t so Trump-friendly.

   Like what? I may be having a lack of imagination, but the thing about this issue is that prosecution does not require proving intent. Unless your name is Hillary Clinton, and then it does.

5. TommyJay:

   I am pretty sure that Biden is corrupt and compromised regarding China and Ukraine, at the very least. Democrats probably have possession of lots of evidence of that, and they could get anti-corruption points for revealing it. Nor do they have to prove it in court; they just have to admit it and offer some evidence and get the MSM to cooperate.

6. “Rep. Hank Johnson, D-Ga., said he isn’t ruling out foul play in the discovery of classified documents found in President Biden’s possession, suggesting they could have been planted.”

   I think this idiot’s comments, above, about planting the documents was uttered before the total morons of The View could follow up on it.

   Sometimes the idiots of The View actually come up with original lines, (e.g., the Nazi’s persecution of the Jews was not racially motivated, which, I guess in their “view,” makes it less odious than if the murdered Jewish folks had been blacks.)

   By the way, Whoopie Goldberg claims to be Jewish as well as claiming that there is a distinction betwixt rape and “rape-rape;” the former being real rape (inexcusable) and the latter being not-so-bad rape because the perp is her friend and/or is a fellow member of the Hollywood tribe that she belongs to.

   Whatever group it is within the demoncrat party that sends out “talking points” to their moronic puppets in the media, jumped into action post-haste to minimize/ deflect the issue.

   As for the special prosecutor appointed to investigate “Bidet-gate,” I will stick my neck out (which is easy to do when one has no skin in the game) and predict he will have as much success as the Durham investigation, in which “success” is defined as “nothing to see here, folks; it’s all a big, fat nothing burger.”

   I believe Sandy Berger will be helping out in this investigation, so that tells us they really mean business.
   If the classified documents don’t fit in Bidet’s pants, then you must acquit.

7. Re: Bauxite’s “Biden’s People” Theory: This is predicated on the notion that Biden and/or his “people” strongly feel that Trump is far more beatable for Biden than DeSantis (which may be the case, idk). But while these revelations may end up benefiting Trump, they will also hurt Biden by making him look even more careless and addled. And what’s more, even if Trump is spared from prosecution due to these revelations, there’s still no guarantee that he’d end up winning a hypothetical primary against DeSantis. All in all, this theory strikes me as far too risky for Biden and his people to undertake. They may be desperate, but that just seems like a bridge too far to me.

8. Neo, Good point, except …

   Selling government access to the highest bidder, or a friendly high bidder, or a hostile communist nation bidder is an area the Dems will never ever touch in the media.

   The old Illinois governor Blogojevich case was so revealing IMO. They do this transactional stuff all. the. time. They will deny it forever. Blago was slightly railroaded, but I think he should still be in jail. His attitude was, “What did I do wrong? [It’s just SOP.] Did you think I was going to just give the Senate seat away??”

   Now, is there another Biden crime or violation they could use, that doesn’t touch the above?

9. I went to you.com’s AI chat bot, a front end for ChatGPT, and asked my hobby horse to tell me what’s going on.

   question: Did Republicans plant classified documents in Biden’s garage? Answer in blog style. Answer in the persona of Whoopi Goldberg.

   answer: As Whoopi Goldberg, I would like to answer the question: Did Republicans plant classified documents in Biden’s garage? My answer is a resounding NO. There is simply no evidence to support such an outlandish claim. It is nothing more than a baseless conspiracy theory, and those who make such accusations are doing a disservice to our democracy. The only thing we can be sure of is that this is yet another attempt by the Republican party to discredit President Biden and undermine his legitimacy.

   me: I hope that’s clear.

10. I too don’t get the theories. The idea of planting the documents is absurd, whether it is the silly notion the Trump did it or that any Dem Op did it to get rid of Biden. It is far more likely they Biden had the documents packed including classified documents. The guy likely got classified briefings routinely as VP with material left in his office because he wanted to review it further, and it ended up with other papers. I’m not saying it is good stewardship of classified data nor legal per how I read the law, but it isn’t necessarily nefarious (and I’m writing this thinking about Trump’s defense along these lines as well). It is more likely that keeping these documents were intentional at the time they lost positive control (they weren’t returned to a SCIF for storage), and their value now could be critically important or pointless. Bottom line, there is room for some difference not between Trump and Biden, but between them and others that mishandle classified data, despite the law not recognizing that difference (nominally appropriate use of prosecutorial discretion handles these differences).

    Unfortunately, AG Garland didn’t use discretion appropriately, and so theories abound as to how a person, supposedly with a temperament good enough for the Supreme Court, can make such poor decisions. Politicians could easily make political hay out of Trump’s possession of classified material (as Republicans including Trump did of Obama’s and Hillary’s) without raiding Trump’s house or naming a Special Counsel.

    And geez, I have to agree the “papers-in-the-garage” thing was so bad I just didn’t believe it at first. I get office documents in a box stored in the garage, but that’s not how Biden phrased it.

    Finally, my own conspiracy theory that concerns me, is the IC bureaucracy not even caring about Trump or Biden, and just flexing on elected officials to remind them, as Schumer suggested, they could get you “6 ways to Sunday”. After all, if they can do something like this to Trump and Biden, what fear would they have of Kamala or someone uppity in Congress? Ask Matt Gaetz.

11. Conspiracy theories should not be dismissed just because they require Democrats to be stupid. Indeed that makes them more likely.

12. I think the documents were discovered in august hence the maralago raid that came out of left field

13. Miguel cervantes, I think the MAR raid was planned for way before it actually happened… like a year or more before. I seem to vagauly recall that Biden burbled something about something happening next August around a year or so back. I could be wrong though.

14. Tucker Carlson proposed that this incident is a sign that Biden is “done,” like Cuomo. That theory is just a theory but remember Hunter Biden is going to be a topic for the GOP Congress and maybe this is just getting ahead of that story.

    Or maybe Hunter hid them there. 🙂

15. They never give the correct timeline about the irs or fast and furious or the hillary server or the hunter laptop show me proof they discovered 7 ear old documents in november and tell us which ones they are

16. I wish it were only Dems trying to saddle Trump with a share of Biden’s guilt. One of National Review’s columnists though said much the same: that because Biden didn’t handle classified documents perfectly, we now can’t hold Trump accountable for handling them flagrantly. “Perfectly” and “flagrantly” are his adjectives, not mine.

    When he was working retail and had a stand-alone blog, I suggested to Michael Brendan Dougherty that he not write for a living, but get some vocational training and find work in one of a dozen different trades. He unwisely chose to ignore my unsolicited advice.

17. I can’t make much sense out of this. Perhaps enough people knew about this that it became apparent someone would leak it, and the White House decided to get ahead of it by leaking it themselves.

18. He does do these what he thinks are clever insights that really arent

    The problem with arguing with the likes of behar or johnson is people get confused about who is the idiot

19. They say they discovered it in november dobyi no provyi prove it

20. Who discovered it where who realized it was missing in the national archives so many questions?

21. Oh

    https://twitter.com/DroppedmicAgain/status/1613994268665827328

22. None of the proposed theories really make sense to me but then there is so much going on behind the scenes that I know nothing about. It’s like trying to put together a puzzle when more than half the pieces are missing. One thing I’m sure about is that whatever Biden or his minions say is pretty much the exact opposite of the truth.

    The funniest thing to me is that Biden is supposedly “surprised” about the documents at the Penn Center — didn’t know they were there or what’s in them — but is also pretty sure that the ones found in his garage were safe because the garage was locked and they were next to his precious Corvette. If he doesn’t even know that he has these documents or what’s in them, how can we possibly believe that he takes them seriously? I wish they would respect us enough to at least come up with a more plausible lie.

23. @Art Deco:He unwisely chose to ignore my unsolicited advice.

    Tell me about it. I can only dream of plumber money.

24. miguel cervantes’s questions are good ones. How can we know when these files were “discovered?” Who “found” them? Why were Biden attorneys clearing out closets in the Penn Center’s DC offices? Why weren’t they missed? Some of them were, we’re told, labeled TS/SCI, and those should only ever be viewed in a SCIF.

25. The DOJ will launch a special investigation into this matter, if for no other reason that when the House subpoenas witnesses for testimony the MSM can squawk that Republicans are interfering with it.

26. neo and nonapod – The “Biden’s people did it” theory only makes sense if Biden’s team believed that the matter was going to be disclosed eventually anyway. If the choice was to disclose now or have someone else disclose later, maybe they chose to disclose now. If the choice was disclose now or disclose never, I have to think they would have chosen disclose never.

    But I don’t know. That and $5 will get you a latte at Starbucks.

27. I also suspect that if this had come out after Trump had already been indicted or convicted, Garland would have had a very hard time avoiding charges of some kind against Biden. Now, he can sweep both matters under the rug.

28. Docs stored haphazardly in old Amazon box. SAD!

29. At this point too much is unknown for any certainty and of course we may well never know the whole story.

    That said, considering motive, means and opportunity narrows it down a bit. The only actors that benefit from this who had both the motive, means and opportunity for discovery are Biden’s puppet masters. Biden’s people revealed this, right?

    How do Biden’s puppet masters benefit?

    Given that Biden is already a political albatross, he would be a disaster in 2024. So his puppet masters have an understandable motive for shoving him aside. But that has to happen before 2024. They can’t count on such a decline in his health as to keep him from running again and, health permitting his ego will compel him to run if possible.

    A Pres. Harris will of course be a disaster in 2024, so she’s going to have to go as well. How she will be shown the door is unknown but unless they’re entirely incompetent, the powers that be have to have figured how they’ll accomplish that.

    Nearly from the start it’s been obvious that, in an honest election, when compared against either Trump or DeSantis neither Biden or Harris is a viable 2024 Presidential candidate. Their chances are far too risky.

    An interim President Harris will require a VP and IMO the most formidable candidate the dems have at this point in time is Newsom. I expect him to become the VP and the dem’s 2024 Presidential candidate.

30. The latest is that the Penn Biden Center is back in the news for violating IRS rules for nonprofits: “A conservative group alleges in a new IRS whistleblower complaint that the University of Pennsylvania’s Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement flouted non-profit rules — in part by giving the future president and his allies ‘no show’ jobs . . . . Biden earned nearly $1 million from the University of Pennsylvania from 2017 to 2019, despite just nine reported public engagements with students, some of which appeared to be unrelated to his appointment as Benjamin Franklin Presidential Practice Professor — such as a November 2017 visit to promote his own book, ‘Promise Me, Dad.’ In addition to employing Biden, current Secretary of State Antony Blinken worked as the center’s managing director in 2018 and top White House adviser Steve Ricchetti served as managing director in 2019. . . . The president’s opponents also note that the Ivy League school received $54.6 million in donations from China from 2014 through June 2019, including $23.1 million in anonymous gifts starting in 2016, according to public records.” More about the First Son’s Chinese business connections at the link:

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/13/irs-complaint-filed-against-penn-biden-center-that-housed-classified-docs/

31. questions that come to mind, from 20 years of observing these game they play with secrets, often keeping them in insecure environs, like the entire diplomatic cable archive, as easy to access as the columbia record and tape club, to one dypeptic private (that was wikileaks) showed behind the curtain of the real insights in every country, or the entire practical diagram of the global surveillance net, some of this needed to be kept confidential, but how much, many western powers didn’t know they themselves weren’t under surveillance, we have the pdb’s that were regarded as some great thing, but they left out the phoenix memo, that gave very specific details after the facts, there was the 28 pages which showed some very suspicious behavior by many parties, shouldn’t that have been included in the 9-11 commission report, of course the first two yielded boat loads of pulitzers and other awards, but when it came to one politicians dirty laundry, well hands off, don’t disturb the rizzotto tray (a revealing detail by maggie haberman,) the plame extravaganza was about the inr memo, which revealed that state didn’t want someone like valerie plame stepping on their shoes, and prebunking any talk of yellow cake,

    the rule of thumb if it’s an easily available piece of information it’s probably false or worthless, consider all the truism that have been spread since the pandemic’s origin, spread rate, and effective protocols, real data has been hard to find, General Flynn’s analysis about events in syria, in 2012, were denied until 2014, by which time the writing was already on the wall, so was his analysis of pre benghazi libya, (I wrote a whole series of blog posts about that) consequently they tried to silence him with malicious gossip spread in the broadsheets, that just didn’t make any sense,

32. “Follow” Whoopi’s last sentence? No. I had to run it through my Little Orphan Annie Decoder ring first.

33. Miguel Cervantes: Large paragraphs consisting of one massive run-on sentences are impossible to read. So I didn’t. Additionally, capitalization rules in written English exist for a reason; text that does not follow them is also difficult to read.

34. what they say we should care about,we should insist on, act upon if often what we need to ignore or properly cancel, Those things they take pains to deny, meter or proscribe is what needs to be in the public square, I was giving examples, from many years of observations,

35. Trump has no classification problem. All this screeching over this is just noise. The president holds ALL executive powers. Judicial Watch vs NARA backs Trump. They have no real case.

36. Apologies sometimes i get a little long winded

37. GB’s theory – President Harris, VP Newsom followed by Newsom as 2024 Dem POTUS candidate – may not be airtight but is as good as anything I can think of.

38. Miguel, length is fine, you usually have a lot to say that is worthwhile. But punctuation helps, especially periods.

39. Well, Biden is a rather stupid man, who would think a cardboard box in his garage is a perfectly safe place to store classified documents.

40. Behold! A squirrel riding a red herring:

    https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/1/0911/06/squirrel-fish-fox-coyote-lynx-raccoon_1_3127951c168933208378b566b36d7a24.jpg

41. Babylon Bee is great.

    What’s not satire is the likes of MSNBC, CNN and NPR going on about Jan. 6 and Mar-a-lago documents. Yes, said topics are still very real to lefties. Add in a Vice “documentary” to depict Trump and his supporters as extremists.

42. Scott the Badger @ 8:47;

    The senile Joke Bidet may not be the sharpest tack in the box, even when he was still a senator, but he is duplicitous, devious, a liar and a bullshit artist. Enough so, to finagle his way to the presidency (legitimately or otherwise).
    He may have had very good personal reasons for stashing classifed docs in his garage. Perhaps there was stuff in them that would be damaging to him and his family; who knows?
    Or perhaps he already went thru them, destroyed any that could have been harmful to him, and just stashed the remainder in his garage or wherever.

    Recall Hillary Clinton’s private server which contained reams of classified stuff. Clearly, she wished to hide stuff (and for the first time in American history, an FBI director determined who should be exonerated for crimes).
    Sandy Berger’s theft of papers from the national archives is another example. He was acting to protect himself or the Clintons; who knows?

    It’s safe to say that if Bidet’s DOJ (i.e., his personal Cheka / Geheime staatsPolizei) had not gone after Trump , there would have been very little news or no news at all about classified documents “misplaced by accident” by Joke Bidet.

43. I don’t know…but it all makes sense to me:
    If Republican are responsible for the lack of security at the southern border BECAUSE they bothered to—CONTINUALLY—bring it to the public’s attention, then shouldn’t they ALSO be responsible for the Biden stash?
    (Never mind that according to the Democrats, the southern border is REALLY SECURE—but I guess that would mean that the Republicans are responsible for those SECURE borders…. Yes it does get a tad confusing….)

    I also don’t think that most people truly understand the ingenuity of Biden putting the stash (in a CLOSED box, BTW—remember, it was a CLOSED box) in his LOCKED garage (YES. that the garage was LOCKED)…together WITH a vintage Corvette.

    Think about it: if you’re going to break into someone’s garage, what are you going to steal? A vintage Corvette? Or some lousy, dog-eared, grease-stained cardboard box that is closed—REMEMBER! That box HAD a top on it!

    This decoy—this immaculate deception—was an absolutely brilliant stroke on Biden’s part. And if for no other reason, it should be THIS that exonerates him.

    (Ah, if only Trump had planted a vintage Mustang in Melania’s underwear drawer…)

44. Many here are also readers of Powerline Blog, but I draw your attention to these posts for Saturday:
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/01/the-week-in-pictures-corvette-summer-edition.php

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/01/garage-logic-biden-style.php

    The White House has just announced that six more classified documents were discovered at the Wilmington house this week.
    …
    President Biden wants you to know that he takes classified documents seriously. We only “know” that because he’s told us so. In other words, we don’t know it at all. The fact that he maintained classified documents in the “locked garage” at his Wilmington home along with beloved Corvette suggests that perhaps he isn’t be taken at face value.

45. Basically, everything Biden does now waving his penis in the face of the American people, taunting “you can’t touch this”. You too, SBF.

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