The Arizona election mess continues
Mohave County Board of Supervisors Chairman Ron Gould said Monday he chose to canvass the 2022 Arizona general election because otherwise, he’d be arrested.
“What we found out today from the county attorney is, essentially, if I have a question with how our election is run and I don’t get my question answered, I have no choice but to canvass the election, which is the technical word for certifying it,” Ron Gould told KTAR News 92.3 FM’s The Gaydos and Chad Show on Monday.
“Or I’ll be charged with a felony.”
I’m curious what the charges would be – obviously not minor, because he says it would be at the felony level. Is “election denial” now a crime? Or perhaps it’s somehow connected to the fact that there were no irregularities reported in Mohave County and his failure to certify was based on Maricopa’s problems? Gould has said “that they chose to make the political statement because when elections are run poorly in the state’s most populous county it disenfranchises the smaller, rural counties.”
The article also said that, had Mohave County not come on board, that county’s vote would have been excluded in the final certification. Mohave County is a majority-GOP county, so it certainly wouldn’t have helped the Republicans, but the Democrats won anyway so I guess it wouldn’t have mattered much if at all.
In addition, there’s this, which I found towards the end of the article. It involves Cochise County, which is the last Arizona holdout county refusing to certify:
Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs filed a lawsuit Monday night against the Cochise County Board of Supervisors for not certifying the election by the state’s required Nov. 28 deadline.
That’s the final sentence in the article. It fails to mention what many know, which is that Katie Hobbs cannot possibly be considered a disinterested and neutral party. She was the Democrat nominee for governor, and the winner over Kari Lake in 2022 in a very close race. As the present Secretary of State in charge of supervising her own election, she refused to recuse herself despite calls to do so and the fact that her conflict of interest is blatant and glaringly obvious.
What’s going on in Arizona highlights several important points. The first is that in states with early voting, the GOP strategy of voting on Election Day and not before is not a good idea.
The second is that – and I’ve already said this many times – the only remedy available is prevention because once an election is done it’s virtually impossible to prove fraud or error that mattered, unless it’s a counting error that involves paper ballots (which is not the usual situation at all). It doesn’t matter how suspicious the events are and how they undermine trust in elections. Trust is not the point; suppression of dissent is the point, and those with power will exercise it to its full extent.
And the third is that integrity is almost nonexistent. In years past, it seems to me that someone in the position of Katie Hobbs would have recused herself to prevent the appearance of impropriety and bias. It was understood how important that is. No more. Power is everything, and they intend to never lose it.
So sad that my childhood Arizona is gone.
I can’t find the article offhand, but I recently read that a key factor in the Kemp and DeSantis blowout election wins was, in both cases, an effective early voting turnout operation. All Republican parties, everywhere, need to get with this program aggressively. As you have pointed out, Neo, there is little hope for election systems reform unless Republicans win elections in blue states.
None of the challenges in AZ will succeed, yet no intelligent observer can possibly consider Arizona’s recent election to have been “free and fair”. It seems obvious that the threat posed by Kari to the state’s corrupt establishment (on the issues of properly-conducted elections and on the security of the border) could not possibly be allowed to end in victory for her or for the other MAGA-supporting candidates. although, had “Cocaine Mitch” been willing to fund the campaign of the impressive B Masters instead of wasting millions in Alaska, the outcome for Senate would surely have been different.
Holding a virtual gun to his head to go along with the vote fraud they have forced on key states. Would be the same in Pennsylvania if someone wouldn’t go along. They need to rush the election under the bridge so 2024 will be a repeat of a repeat.
they pulled a similar trick to secure the certification in wayne county in 2020, so it’s more a whole sale steal, no the mail vote was not the only part of the operation,
they will not permit the demolition of this country to be halted if they can help it, collapsing the border is certainly part of it, as is introducing all sorts of eldritch elements, like we see with the balenciaga incident
neo states, “Trust is not the point; suppression of dissent is the point, and those with power will exercise it to its full extent.”
The greater the suppression of dissent, the deeper and more widespread the mistrust. What percentage of Venezuelans actually trust the Maduro government? Though we are not there yet, when California’s rolling blackouts spread across the nation, when electric car owners can’t charge their cars to get to work, when food prices rise to unaffordable levels and children are forced to eat bugs… the democrat party will have lost its credibility with the liberal sheep.
“Power is everything, and they intend to never lose it.”
Which ensures that they will lose it. The only question is will they hold on to power long enough to lose it through violence.
“…the only remedy available is prevention because once an election is done ”
Not the *only* remedy… just, for now. But we’ll get to the others by and by.
I can’t find the article offhand, but I recently read that a key factor in the Kemp and DeSantis blowout election wins was, in both cases, an effective early voting turnout operation. All Republican parties, everywhere, need to get with this program aggressively.
I’d sure love to read that article if you ever find it, because everything I’ve read is that states with large amounts of early voting and ballot harvesting are the ones where Dems won; whereas the states with tighter election systems with zero ballot harvesting (like Florida and Ohio) is where the GOP was successful.
There is no way the GOP can match the ballot harvesting in places like homeless shelters and nursing homes. Those are natural ignorant voters (I don’t mean dumb), who’ll mark whatever they’re told by the nice people who just brought them a ballot.
Either the whole country tightens up the voting system, or we are a defacto banana republic from here out.
The Democrats in WA state did a lot of the voter enhancement when the vote by mail system was introduced; hundreds of voters living at the same PO box or Storage Unit complex. That was 20+ years ago IIRC.
How do you establish residency or eligibility voter standards for a homeless “community?” You must be racist, fascist, democracy denier! (sarc)
Az looks like officially stolen, sigh.
Rnc’s moving on.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/11/29/hired-by-the-rnc-harmeet-dhillon-teams-up-with-the-mitch-mcconnell-contracted-enforcer-who-destroyed-the-tea-party/
I note Harmeet Dillon was involved with the lawsuit that ended in fizzle / apology, where Trump supporters leaving a San Jose rally were assaulted. The iconic photo of a lady with egg on her face.
And Jay Valentine has another great article on how voter rolls are massaged at American Thinker…
The Az steal was so blatant, yet it’s still allowed to succeed.
RaySoCa:
Sundance would do well to concentrate on some worthier cause than smearing Harmeet Dillon, who has made such good efforts on that and other topics. Sundance, in my opinion, prefers to stir up dissension on the right, and has gotten a lot of traffic for just that.
What he ignores – and what Dillon, who lives in the real world of action rather than the pundit world, does not ignore – is practical reality. As I’ve written many times, there is nothing to do about Arizona because material problems with machines that were enough to change election results and which did change election results are impossible to prove in court. The only solution is a pound of cure. For example, in Arizona, GOP voters should not concentrate on Election Day voting.
By the way, earlier today I read that Jay Valentine article. It puzzled me. He makes some extremely serious charges and purports to be able to prove them. But there’s no reference to ever having taken his assertions (and he’s made similar ones in the past at American Thinker) to court. Has he done so? If not, why not? If so, what was the outcome, and how did he try to prove them? I see some other holes in his story – how is it that these ballots come back to the very people who are committing the fraud, for example – that I would like him to explain.
At best they are working at cross purposes the law actual evidence hadnt mattered in legal cases since 2016 when they failed to steal michigan because they had serious chain of custody issues
SomeDunce knows how to harvest clicks.
It seems like there is no justice they can steal our vote at will and we know the result they can mutilate institutionz like marriage with the eunuchs they allow in place with exceptions like portman who is on the way the ones who commit criminal malpractice like whitmer and hochul are unaccontable
“…who’ll mark whatever they’re told by the nice people who just brought them a ballot AND A TWENTY DOLLAR BILL.”
FIFY ? To quote Insty, “Embrace the healing power of AND.” Cupidity AND Stupidity.
Early voting is a loser for the Rs, as Callahan says, but not just because of the stupidity factor, but because it gives the D’s plenty of time to generate ballots and a specific goal (just enough to win, but not be obvious).