Trump is running: can he Make Trump Great Again?
In a move surprising no one, but elating many and disappointing many others, Trump officially announces his 2024 candidacy.
This will further divide the already-divided right, which in my opinion doesn’t bode well for the already-highly-challenged GOP in 2024. On the other hand, there has long been a segment of voters on the right who say they will vote for no one but Trump, and also a segment who would never vote for him in the first place or never vote for him again. Which segment is bigger? And how many Independent (or even nominally Democrat) voters does he attract, compared to how many he repels?
That has always been the question with Trump.
Also, can Trump win the nomination? And even if he doesn’t, will he run third-party as a spoiler? Will his running discourage or encourage others to enter the fray against him?
None of this fills me with joy, because I think that these divisions only benefit Biden any way you slice it. However, it’s still early. Can Trump reinvent himself once again? I don’t think so, but Trump is an unusual person and these are unusual times. His more sober “presidential” demeanor last night indicates he might want to give at least the impression of having toned it down.
One thing I have to say for Trump at this point, he has cojones.
I also wonder how this will affect the left’s plans to indict him. Perhaps Netanyahu’s election success – winning when the trial against him is apparently still ongoing – encouraged Trump to run despite the legal threats against him. Not that he needed encouragement to run; I think he’s been planning this for a long long time. It may even be that his announced candidacy will discourage an indictment for the duration, because those making the decisions about whether to bring an indictment might think that letting Trump run unencumbered could be to their advantage. Perhaps they don’t want to stop him; perhaps they think that he’s already so wounded that he’ll be easy to beat even without it. Then again, I don’t think there’s any legal impediment to a presidential candidate running for office while under indictment or being tried.
You think things couldn’t get more bizarre, and then they do.
One of the best reasons for supporting Trump is the recent tweet from NRO (“a firm, unmistakable, NO”), although there are also valid reasons for wondering about this decision (his age, his response to the Wuhan-virus, his many unfortunate decisions in hiring, the malign influence of Javanka/Jarvanka at 1600), but the implacable hostility of GOPe and the Murdochs and the entire corrupt Republican establishment (the tone of which hardly differs from the drivel spewed forth relentlessly and ceaselessly on MSNBC) to his running again makes one inclined perhaps in favor, provided that he chooses Kari, likely to have been the true winner in AZ, as VP.
Can Trump reinvent himself once again? I don’t think so, but Trump is an unusual person and these are unusual times.
Trump is gonna be Trump. I would be truly shocked if he changed in any meaningful way.
Personally I’m a big believer in trying to learn from failures. The fact that there was no true red wave (more like a red trickle) despite every indicator that there should have been, is a failure. Now we can keep trying the same things and hope that next time it’ll all work out. Or we can try to understand what happened and hopefully adjust. So far I’m not seeing a lot of changes happening. But in fairness it’s early yet.
I know that many people think that Trump is toxic and has no chance in 2024 but I think there are far too many variables in play to predict what will happen in 2024.
We don’t know if Biden will run again or what shape he will be in if he does. If he doesn’t, how messy will the process to replace him be? And who will be the replacement?
There is a very good chance that the economy will be in much worse shape than it is now, which potentially broadens the appeal of Trump’s populism.
We don’t know how or when the war in Ukraine will end but the longer it goes on and the more money we spend, the greater the chance it becomes a liability for those that support more funding. This is especially true if we slip into a deep recession. The ads against funding Ukraine when Americans are hurting write themselves.
When I drive around the eastern panhandle in West Virginia and western Maryland I still see plenty of Trump signs and flags. Trump still has a deep connection with a large segment of the population that the elites of both parties and the mainstream media ignore. These people will vote for Trump or they will stay home.
Then there are the creepy elites like Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates, Albert Bourla and that weird FTX guy. Nobody likes these people and normally you would think the Democrats could run a successful campaign against the rich corporate elites but instead they have supported these people.
I think Trump’s chances are much better than most pundits think right now.
So far, so good, but it’s not going to last and it’s not going to work.
I am not happy about this.
We need a gutsy fighter who understands fully what we’re up against.
Trump does [when he’s not making it all about Trump] and DeSantis does.
We also need a fighter who will answer *intelligently* the garbage thrown at him, and who is not his own worst enemy (often at the worst times).
Yes, I’m a DeSantis supporter. No, DeSantis is not perfect, bla bla bla.
This latest move by Trump is not welcome.
I do appreciate the good he has done, which is not inconsiderable, but I also appreciate the harm he has done and is capable of doing.
You Trumpkins out there, I believe I understand and respect your position. (In no way would I ever be a Never-Trumper.) I appreciate our fellowship. We just differ on this one.
I humbly suggest that this time around, we can (and must) do better.
these people gates, bourla schwab, fund or manage most of the economic political social space, and not in a good way,
we discover this discount jack black was partially responsible for blackballing the treatment with hcq and ivermectin, with his money,
M J R:
Agreed.
I’m with MJR also. Hoping DeSantis wins the nomination or say hello to an inevitable second term for Biden. Two years is too long for Trump not to further alienate people and step on his own Johnson.
First DJT in 2020 had somewhere around 70 million, maybe a few more votes, more than any incumbent. Second he has nothing to hide yet for 6 years the Democrats Propaganda Ministry has hammered him for crimes he never did. The Leftists IMO have shown they can put up numbers, most likely frauded to get the advantage so it may not matter who gets put up him or DeSantis. So we might as well get this fight asap, and hope who it is gets sorted out amicably.
“Trump is running: can he Make Trump Great Again?”
Very subtle, Neo.
He can only make America great again, if he can make Trump great again.
President Trump was a great president. If Congress had supported him, his achievements for America would have been more enduring. I can think of a dozen achievements of his presidency, advancing America First goals.
I’m trying to think of the lasting achievements of W. I’m sure there were some. This isn’t snark. I just can’t remember any. I know he supported a home ownership society and that didn’t work out well. He gave China Permanent Normal Trade Relations status and the off-shoring of jobs escalated. Congress passed the Secure Fence Act of 2006 and we got a chain link fence.
His energy policy may have laid the groundwork for Trump, so that’s a positive.
He did seem subdued during his speech last night. The first half seemed like he had written it, and the last half was obviously written for him. It rambled somewhat and was too long. While parts of it were forward looking, there were too many references to “they done me wrong.” (and they have)
Trump has to spend too much time bragging about his achievements because no one else will. Ever read a positive article about Trump in the MSM? Since Fox has turned the corner, do you expect they’ll remind voters of his achievements while president?
A normal politician can stay somewhat above the fray, and his surrogates through the press handle the dirty work of politics. Trump doesn’t have that (I realize that’s also not his style).
Two years is an eternity in politics, so it’s way too early to make any predictions about his resurgence. Given the likely crisis the world’s economies may face in the next few years, I’m not sure why anyone would want to be president. I would say if anyone could help America survive/weather the coming storm, it would be President Trump.
Because there will be no true justice for what’s already been done to POTUS Trump AND to the USA as collateral damage in the attacks on him, I’d rather see someone else take the lead in trying to restore some semblance of America to America.
I do not see Biden making another run…not with pretty-boy Newsom and whatever person of color they throw in there with him just waiting in the wings.
No…Kamala will not get out of the starting blocks if she runs…same as it ever was.
I’ve been surprised how little I have seen and heard about Trump’s announcement in the 20, or so, hours since he announced the announcement. The main stream media gave him an IMMENSE amount of free press, especially airtime, in 2015. It looks like there is a concerted effort to not make that mistake (a mistake in the eyes of the MSM) again.
I’m all in for DeSantis.
No point in knocking Trump. He eats knocks for breakfast. His ego fills Madison Square Garden.
Let the 2024 games begin.
I had some faint hope that after he announced the Left would completely focus on attacking Trump, giving DeSantis a respite in which to build his base.
I now realize that was foolish. Trump is their best weapon against the GOP. I expect a stealth campaign–like they pulled in the primaries–to promote Trump. They know that as long as he seems viable, he will be a disruptive influence.
Everyone knows that if Trump runs it won’t be against Biden. It will probably be against the smooth talking, always smiling, young and energetic Gavin Newsom. As painful as it is for a California resident to say, I do not believe that an aged, bitter Trump would have a chance of beating Newsom; who just easily triumphed in an environment in which people know him best and have the best reasons to reject him.
A bit off topic; but I shake my head when Trump diehards condemn the “GOP establishment” out of hand. I guess it escapes them that most members became part of this so-called establishment by working for, and within, the party for years and decades. Without the establishment, there would be no GOP for Trump to use. While it is probably beneficial to have an outsider, like Trump, shake things up from time to time; that idea has a short shelf life.
For instance. I don’t solely blame Trump for 2022; but he sure as hell didn’t help either.
I suppose that some would call men like DeSantis and Abbot, who are really carrying the torch for Conservatism, the (sneer) establishment.
To play on the current mantra: “Thank you for your service Mr Trump. I mean that sincerely. Enjoy your retirement; and I also mean that sincerely.”
At The Conservative Treehouse Sundance writes with so many states gone to mail voting most likely 2024 is lost no matter who runs.
Reminder: The kind of people telling you we have to get rid of Trump just voted to keep Mitch McConnell as the second power powerful and prominent Republican in DC.
Mike
because we’ve seen how willing they were to grant obama nominees leeway and how trump had to cut his own hand to get any results out of them, because they cavelled at funding the wall, but sent 80 billion to Ukraine, because they rain contempt on masters, and laxalt and co, as they did with akin and o’donnell and angle and buck and, do I need to spell it out further,
Lots and lots of guesswork. In two years, it’ll probably all be wrong.
I haven’t taken the time to do a state-by-state analysis of the GOP presidential nomination process, but I’d guess that Trump will win the nomination because of his strength in primaries.
The people who don’t like Trump’s personality, or who care about winning the election against Biden’s replacement, will have little influence over Trump’s supporters. Will the DeSantis supporters be sufficiently influential to unify all those who supported Trump’s opponents in 2016? I don’t see how. What if we add all the new voters to the DeSantis side? Unfortunately, young voters and new immigrants are mostly Democrats. Anyway, my first gut reaction is that DeSantis doesn’t have a good path to winning the nomination.
I’m in the group of conservatives who think that Trump can’t win against any Democratic nominee. There are too many people who hate him, usually for crackpot reasons. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Democratic Party activists surreptitiously supporting Trump over DeSantis.
So who will be our next president? Well, our next president won’t be Biden or Harris. That means Harris goes first. Newsom is the most likely replacement. Biden resigns. Newsom becomes president and runs against Trump, who loses in a landslide.
Oh yeah, as an historical footnote, Eugene Debs ran for president, from prison. Trump will be the second man to do that.
I started trying to write something serious, but it comes out sounding like slapstick tragicomedy. We’re just not a serious country anymore. The big question is what will be the tipping point in our collapse? I vote for energy infrastructure failure, which could even happen before the 2024 election.
MBunge – You can’t beat something with nothing. I’m open to the argument that McConnell, at 80 years of age, is no longer the right person to lead the Senate GOP caucus, but show me someone who would do better. I have nothing against Rick Scott, but he isn’t that person.
Skip – It is very telling that pro-Trump sources are already pre-spinning a general election loss in 2024.
well we could have a small chance of nuclear war, so there is that to look forward to, ’20 million tops, doesn’t mean we won’t get our hair mussed’*
*name the film
why not, we have seen 16 years of senate leadership, or lack their of, from him, frist was no bag of do nuts nor was lott, but he has failure all over his puss,
I would be delighted to vote for Trump or DeSantis, and even more delighted if either one wins the Presidency in 2024.
Trump will burn out. DeSantis is the definition of ‘Peaking Too Early.” He’ll have some unsolvable problem in FL, or one will be generated for him, and regress to the mean.
The R nominee in 2024 will be someone working quietly now. I could go with Rand Paul- not a firebrand, experienced in the ways of D.C., intelligent. I know that Senators make lousy executives, but it’s gonna be either him or Abbott. I much prefer Paul to Abbott, having lived under Abbott’s regime for the past 8 years, but no contest between Abbott and any Dem.
Aside to Rufus T. re lack of free air for Trump: check out Slate.com. 3 of the 11 articles above the first “fold,” including the biggest picture, are about Trump. Ctrl-F Trump on wapo.com brings up 13 entries.
the dems run garbage people, clinton obama biden, even warren, serves no use, gabbard left the primaries, and served with the kopassus special forces in indonesia, doing something useful
whereas republicans have to chose between a job they are doing successfully and the long shot of the nomination,
Granted, DeSantis is an awesome governor. However, we have no idea how he would manage international relations. There is a reason we had no foreign entanglements in the Trump era. Putin and Xi were afraid of him. Russia and China would very likely want ro test a DeSantis presidency. Give me Trump any day.
The worrisome thing about a Trump run, in addition to comments above, is his age. He’s admittedly more vigorous than many men ten to twenty years younger, but — he is 76 now, and will be 78 in 2024. Gavin Newsom, hair gel and all, is much younger.
MBunge:
So what?
They say get rid of Trump, but they also say plenty of other things, some with which I agree and some with which I disagree. I don’t make decisions based on being a slavish follower of someone, nor do I make decisions based on having some other beef with that person. I make my own independent decisions based on what I see.
There are also plenty of other people who previously were strong supporters of Trump who are now saying they wish he wouldn’t run.
Skip:
Ah, how helpful of sundance! Not only is he making excuses for a Trump loss already, but his extreme pessimism can only serve to depress turnout on the right.
Fabulous.
if people refuse to acknowledge objective conditions in lieu of ephemeral phantoms sir edward luce has a new column on the subject, then what can be gained, in two years, the major metropolis may be in mad max territory,
McTurtle may be 80 and he screwed Alaska, possibly screwed Arizona, but a concerned conservative™ is glad he’s still in charge to screw the rest of us. When Lisa McTurtle sides with the Democrats and the Left as is her game, tell us again what McTurtle has done for the country. Because he may be 80 but he’s still McTuttle. Another would be different, shudder of concern.
I didn’t like his grandstanding in the week before the election, he might have been overconfident to think people would realize their self interest in places like new york, which was where he grew up, I think he sobered up after the last week,
conversely remember the dem primaries before covid, you would have thought that anyone would be crazy to support nearly any of them, but they had made arrangements that made that mute,
Depressing as it is, given what happened in Pennsylvania and Arizona and Michigan– probably critical states for any Republican candidate, the path to the White House is dim, at this point. Things change though.
More concerning is the Democrat party looks more like the religion of the left offering salvation/happiness to all who join. COVID was the tipping point, the mass formation event. Following Democrat rules kept you safe. Following Republican rules was going to kill you.
Remember Mar a Lago?
Nevermind…
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/kevindowneyjr/2022/11/16/shocker-wapo-sheepishly-admits-the-fbi-found-no-nuclear-secrets-or-anything-else-in-mar-a-lago-raid-n1646445
But OMB and McTurtle, that
will fix things.
MBunge – You can’t beat something with nothing. I’m open to the argument that McConnell, at 80 years of age, is no longer the right person to lead the Senate GOP caucus, but show me someone who would do better. I have nothing against Rick Scott, but he isn’t that person.
He’s been in Congress for 38 years, acts as a bagman for donors, accomplished flat nothing in his years as Senate majority leader (even in the realm of restoring regular procedures for budget and appropriations) and just acted to sabotage the campaigns of several Republican candidates for U.S. Senate. How bad does he have to be before Bauxite acknowledges that “someone” among the other 40-odd Republican Senators might just do a better job?
“So what?”
Here’s a crazy idea, Neo. Maybe stop to consider that you’re not as smart as you think you are and that noticing “Hey! This person who has been horribly wrong about everything up to now agrees with me! Hmm. Perhaps I should rethink things” is a decent habit to pick up.
Everyone should make up their own mind but when you find yourself in agreement with someone you vehemently oppose in all or most other matters, an intelligent person takes a second to consider why that’s happened. You, seemingly, don’t. And that goes hand in hand with your apparent easy willingness to believe that people who have lied and misled you in the past are NOW telling you God’s honest truth (ala Iraq and Ukraine).
Mike
“There are also plenty of other people who previously were strong supporters of Trump who are now saying they wish he wouldn’t run.”
Eh. Trump is pretty damn old. That by itself is enough of a reason to be leery of him running again.
But you’re a complete idiot if you don’t realize DeSantis or any other candidate will be treated exactly like Trump. And if you look at everything Trump has endured and sacrificed for the country and say “We don’t need you anymore, so get lost,” don’t be surprised that the country you end up with is a bit lacking in things like loyalty, integrity, nobility, and honor.
Mike
The worrisome thing about a Trump run, in addition to comments above, is his age. He’s admittedly more vigorous than many men ten to twenty years younger, but — he is 76 now, and will be 78 in 2024.
–Kate
A major concern for me as well. We’ve got good younger candidates like DeSantis on the bench.
Maybe Trump was not as much of a factor in the midterm disappointment as I figured. But I don’t see him as a big help in going forward.
If Trump is making a calculation based on what’s best for the country, as opposed to his ego and taste for revenge, it’s hard for me to tell.
To the DeSantis guys, if DeSantis doesn’t form a Neo-Confederacy by 2024 then America is over anyway. The Federal Tranny Government is irredeemable no matter what Lame Duck Republitard might get in by sheer luck of accidentally beating the cheating. DeDantis could not do any better as President than Trump did; the Federal Tranny State is too gay. Trump is too Boomer to attempt to form a Neo-Confederacy so it has to be DeSantis. If he goes retarded and thinks the Presidency is winnable, that the votes in many non-Florida states will even be counted, then he’ll go down in history as being just as retarded of a boomer as Trump.
At The Conservative Treehouse Sundance writes with so many states gone to mail voting most likely 2024 is lost no matter who runs.
Well, Sundance can shut down his blog and go into exile. Maybe Hutton Gibson’s old house in Australia is available for sale.
Personally speaking, I do not predict or argue against Donald Trump. He just wins.
Whoever the Republican nominee may be, they need to map out the road to 270 electoral votes while skipping the close blue states that are able to manufacture/harvest quantities of Democrat votes.
“Well, Sundance can shut down his blog and go into exile.”
The “Republicans can’t win with mail-in ballots” is like “Republicans can’t win black or Latino votes.” It seems like it’s a conventional wisdom put out by GOP politicians and campaign managers who don’t know how to do either of those things, so they want to protect their jobs by making everybody think they’re impossible.
Republicans can ballot-harvest like anybody else.
Mike
The other thing about Trump which concerns me…
When Trump first emerged as a candidate in 2015, his shtick was new for presidential campaigns. It was refreshing to (some) voters and caught the pundits and other candidates by surprise. Say what you will about Trump, but in 2015 no one was ready for him.
But now everyone knows Trump’s shtick. It makes a difference. Plus the public may have grown tired of it.
Just as in sports, when one team figures out a new angle — say emphasizing the three-pointer in basketball — the other teams lose for a while, then come up with their own three-point strategy or defenses against same.
If Democrats would prefer to run against Trump, they may not be wrong.
Bingo huxley – Democrats preferred to run against Trump’s “stop the steal” candidates in 2022. They were not wrong.
Bunge at 08:55 PM returns to usual form, this time insulting neo’s intelligence.
Typical.
Don’t be a Bunge.
MBunge:
You write, “you’re a complete idiot if you don’t realize DeSantis or any other candidate will be treated exactly like Trump.”
And you’re a bit challenged yourself if you haven’t noticed that I and just about all the commenters here have said that DeSantis or any other GOP candidate will be treated just as poorly by the MSM and the left as Trump was. The question, really, is how they will handle it, and how well it will stick.
MBunge:
Re your comment at 8:55 PM:
You’re right. It IS a crazy idea.
Maybe you ought to stop insulting people here in such personal ways. You’ve been commenting here a long time but you’ve stepped over the line many many times. I am reluctant to ban people, especially long-time commenters, but consider this a warning.
Cornflour: “I vote for energy infrastructure failure, which could even happen before the 2024 election.”
Yes, the AGW cult ideas about fossil fuels scare the h*ll out of me. It’s hard to explain in short campaign ads that get Joe Sixpak and his wife to understand how bad things will be. This is, IMO, the greatest weak point for the Democrats. We need to focus-group test words and phrases that will wake people up to the dangers of abruptly abandoning fossil fuels. Once large numbers of citizens grasp how expensive and unreliable energy would become, the Democrats wouldn’t have a chance except in the usual blue enclaves. With this issue well explained, I don’t think it would matter so much whether the candidate was Trump or DeSantis ot ?
For those looking for a ray of hope, two jewels from Lavern Spicer’s Twitter feed:
First, the bad news in her now famous ballot harvesting tweet:
I don’t care if Ron DeSantis is the nominee.
I don’t care if Donald Trump is the nominee.
I don’t care if the ghost of George Washington is the nominee.
If we have mail-in voting & ballot harvesting, Joe Biden is going to win in 2024.
Take it to the bank and cash it.
But then a practical plan, some version of which (combined with other ballot centric approaches) would improve Trump’s odds:
Here’s an idea for 2024.
Trump holds rallies in swing districts and we ballot harvest there.
Everyone who comes gets a ballot and we collect them and drop them off.
We either play the Left’s game or lose.
Ms Spicer is based in Miami. Hopefully, Team Trump has or is developing ground game plans along these lines.
Caveat: It is safe to assume that casting illegal ballots for dead, ineligible, and nonexistent voters is unpalatable and off the table for virtually the entire MAGAverse. If that’s what it takes to win, we’ll take the loss. Trump most certainly won’t go there, as his brand will only be enhanced (win or lose) if he keeps playing it straight.
Yes, the AGW cult ideas about fossil fuels scare the h*ll out of me. It’s hard to explain in short campaign ads that get Joe Sixpak and his wife to understand how bad things will be.
–JJ
We may not have to explain.
Joe Sixpak and his wife, all of us, will have ringside seats this winter watching Europe, especially Germany, handle heating their homes and powering their economies with reduced fossil fuels.
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Everybody’s life is either a warning or an example.
–Tony Robbins
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It’s going to get ugly.
Cornflour:
Replacing Harris as VP won’t be easy; whoever the President appoints to replace her will have to be confirmed by both houses of Congress.
No matter who the Republican nominee is, the idea of handing out absentee ballot applications at rallies is a good one.
“…watching Europe…” ?
Um, er,
“New England Risks Winter Blackouts as Gas Supplies Tighten”—
https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-england-risks-winter-blackouts-as-gas-supplies-tighten-11665999002
And in other AGW news…
” ‘Paralyzing’ lake effect storm could blitz Buffalo with over 3 feet of snow”—
https://nypost.com/2022/11/16/buffalo-could-get-by-buried-in-feet-of-snow-during-lake-effect-storm/
Not to misunderstand: For our betters (most especially the “Biden” Oppo Government, US) these are features, not bugs…
I’m sure you’re being sarcastic, Barry Meislin, because of course lake-effect snow is a long-standing feature of life on the eastern shores of the Great Lakes.
The dems are jumping for joy now that Trump has declared; they know the dumbpublicans will all be participating in a circular firing squad.
Already, some very wealthy former supporters of Trump have said, no more.
Yes, we all know; Trump’s personality is a turn off to many voters.
What I do not understand is why voters do not make decisions based upon the policies a candidate wishes to promote instead of concentrating on the personality of the candidate.
Do voters not understand that it is the president that nominates new members of the SCOTUS??
Do voters really want a bunch more Ketanji Brown Jackson’s on the SCOTUS??
Do voters not realize that oft times one must choose betwixt the least objectionable candidate, the one that will be less harmful to the nation?
Goes to show that what matters to many (most?) voters is their visceral reaction to a candidate, how they “feel” about the candidate, as opposed to an objective analysis of the candidates policy views; unless one is a demokrat.
In this latter case, they do not care about the personality or competence of the candidate. They care only about putting someone into office – dead or alive – that will “tow the line,” because what really matters to them is political power. This is why we have a fundamentally dishonest , senile president and Frankenstein as the new Senator from Pennsylvania.
Funny you should mention that.
Just last week I met someone from Rochester and when I mentioned lake-effect blizzards to him he said it’s been quite a long while now since Rochester’s been hit by a serious winter storm. I didn’t know enough about that to contradict. Certainly Toronto’s had its fair share of blizzards over recent years…. OTOH, I don’t believe that Toronto can chalk those up to “lake effect” like northern NYS. Maybe, though.
(We also waxed nostalgic about Kodak’s glory years… So much for small talk….)
It’s true that Toronto is on the northwestern edge of Lake Ontario, and therefore not in the blizzard path like Buffalo. However, lake effect snow is very common in Milwaukee for the first mile or two inland. Those low-pressure systems rotate counterclockwise and dump moisture off the lake. I would imagine the same applies to Toronto.
Banned Lizard – Trump’s brand will be enhanced if he “keeps playing it straight?” Bless your heart.
Could Trump run with DeSantis as his VP, and make a pledge to resign office upon reaching the age of 80 (June 2026)? Resigning at 80 seems like a good precedent to have.
I think the Constitution requires the president and vice president to be from different states. That’s why Dick Cheney established a Wyoming residency, in order to serve as Bush VP.
Maybe Trump could move back to NY. DeSantis is a native Floridian.
O/T (but is anything REALLY O/T these days?)…
Two opinion pieces from “Newsweek” of all places, that I would never have expected to find there:
“FTX’s Downfall: How Moral Preening Obscured Fraud…”—
https://www.newsweek.com/ftxs-downfall-how-moral-preening-obscured-fraud-opinion-1760135
H/T Instapundit.
“Why Missouri Banned DOJ Monitors on Election Day…”—
https://www.newsweek.com/why-missouri-banned-doj-monitors-election-day-opinion-1760066
Just WOW!…
+ Bonus (O/T of course…well, MAYBE AGW-related…)
“… Biden is caught with cheat sheet at G20 informing him when to sit, speak and take a photo”—
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11437601/Biden-caught-cheat-sheet-G20-informing-sit-speak-photo.html
…but maybe it’s all a portent for the end of the world is nigh…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11438327/What-flock-Sheep-walk-circle-TWELVE-DAYS-without-stopping-Chinese-farm.html
JohnTyler – It’s not just personality or “mean tweets.” For every good policy that Trump had, there were two or three that failed, were never enacted, or were blunted because of basic incompetence in his administration – the “travel ban,” the census question, the DACA repeal, and more. I put the Ukraine impeachment in the same category. Trump’s behavior wasn’t impeachable, it was just dumb. You can get mad at John Roberts, Sally Yates, Alexander Vinman, and everyone else (with good cause for the most part). Almost all of the failures of the Trump administration, though, were caused by the basic incompetence of Trump and (some) of his nominees.
Look at how little has endured from Trump’s administration. Two years later, the only significant things left are the tax bill that Paul Ryan wrote and the Supreme Court. Biden wiped out all of Trump’s regulatory changes. Trump’s re-structuring of the lower level federal courts will be all but wiped out after four years of Biden and a Democrat-controlled Senate. I’ll take the Supreme Court and be grateful for it, but there’s not much else (and even a modest Democratic victory in 2024 is likely to wipe out the Supreme Court too).
What is most frightening about a potential second Trump administration is that many of the competent nominees from his last administration want nothing to do with him now. FWIW, I put Jared and Ivanka in that category. The work that Jared & Ivanka’s team did distributing ventilators during COVID was amazing. The work that they did on the Abraham Accords will never get the recognition it deserves – but even Jared and Ivanka are out this time around.
So no, it’s not just about dealing with a sour personality to get good policies. With Trump, the “personality” gets in the way of the good policy
I have mixed feelings about this, in that I do think Trump deserves the second term he won in 2020 and would support him in 2024, but I am not sure he is the best person. Still, he is far better than most and I do think the RINO/Never Trump bandwagon are far more responsible for our problems there.
I think the bigger issue is less whether or not Trump can win and whether or not any conservative can win without enough housecleaning to make sure the vote is fair.
I do enjoy it so when (certain) people extoll the accomplishments of DJT and then finish up by exclaiming(!), or perhaps chortling, “With Trump, the “personality” gets in the way of the good policy…”…
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…And (O/T, but maybe not, since everyone knows that if the media adamantly refuses to connect FTX with the Democratic Party then NO CONNECTION THEREFORE EXISTS!) if one wants to know everything about FRAUD (and FTX) but was afraid (or perhaps forgot) to ask…
“FTX: The Dominoes Of Financial Fraud Have Yet To Fall”—
https://www.zerohedge.com/crypto/ftx-dominoes-financial-fraud-have-yet-fall
Our concerned conservative™ takes the media caricature of Trump’s policies; Travel Ban, Imigration, Ukraine (Quid Pro Quo), accepts them and then attributes the issue to Trump’s incompetence or worse. When exactly did a prior administration’s Executive Orders become binding on a following administration, concerned conservative™? When a Federal judge made it so, out of whole (black) cloth. Was that DACA Executive Order, now untouchable, Trump’s doing?
Get beyond OMB, concerned conservative™.
concerned conservative™ seems to have forgotten the whole Captain Ahab torment of Michael Flynn and how that “Resistance” by the beltway aparachits sabotaged the Trump administration. BTW Judge Ahab (Emmett Sullivan) is still up to his usual tricks.
But OMB. Disconcerting, indeed.
“I think the bigger issue is less whether or not Trump can win and whether or not any conservative can win without enough housecleaning to make sure the vote is fair.”
This is precisely where the Democrats have the Conservatives on their (collective) back leg, the “dilemma” being as follows:
a) If we run Trump there’s no way he can win (read, “there’s no way the Democrats will allow him to win”).
b) If we run “Not-Trump” he (she?) might win (read, “it’s POSSIBLE that the Democrats will allow him/her to win”).
ERGO, the ONLY way to—POSSIBLY—win is to go with “Not-Trump”,
Q.E.D.
Note, however, that when push comes to shove, “Not-Trump” will be portrayed (by the usual suspects) as every bit the “Semi-Fascist”(TM) that Trump “is”—actually, worse than Trump…because…”Not-Trump” is—HAS GOT TO BE—FALSELY presenting himself/herself/itself as “Not-Semi-Fascist”…
Qualification: The above assumes that the Democrats have stolen the past two elections and will steal the next one. Should one be stout-hearted (i.e., remarkably decent! or naive?) enough to insist that electoral fraud was NOT the reason for the feeble Republican “showing” last Tuesday, then we’ll have to rewire “a” and “b”, above, as follows:
a) If we run Trump there’s no way he can win (read, “there’s no way the Republicans and Independents will vote for him in sufficient numbers to win”).
b) If we run “Not-Trump” he (she?) might win (read, “it’s POSSIBLE that enough Republicans and Independents will vote him to victory”).
ERGO, the ONLY way to—POSSIBLY—win is to go with “Not-Trump”,
Q.E.D…(and don’t forget to pray that the Democrats either forget to cheat or—a la Hillary Clinton—just don’t think it’s all that necessary.)
“…watching Europe…” ?
Um, er,
Barry Meislin:
Some differences are greater than others.
Sure, the US will face energy problems, particularly in the Northeast, but they will be mild compared to Germany, which is far more dependent on external, i.e. Russian, sources of energy.
Germany is already passing regulations:
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In response to rising energy prices and dwindling oil and natural gas imports from Russia, Germany is launching a set of binding measures to reduce energy consumption nationwide. Here’s what this entails.
Retail stores may no longer keep their doors open throughout the day to reduce electricity consumption for air conditioning when it is hot outside — and for heating on cold winter days.
Illuminated advertising must be switched off after 10p.m., with only a few exceptions. If advertisements serve traffic safety, they remain switched on, for example, at railroad underpasses. Street lamps also remain on, and store windows may continue to be illuminated.
Monuments and other buildings may no longer be illuminated at night. At least not for purely aesthetic reasons. However, emergency lighting will not be switched off, and illumination is permitted for cultural events and public festivals.
In public buildings, halls and corridors will generally no longer be heated, and the temperature in offices will be limited to a maximum of 19 degrees. In places where heavy physical work is performed, temperatures will be even lower in the future. However, the restrictions do not apply to social facilities such as hospitals, daycare centers, and schools, where higher air temperatures are essential for the “health of the people who spend time there,” according to the Economy Ministry.
Cutting back on warm water. Likewise, in public buildings, instantaneous water heaters or hot water tanks should be switched off if they are mainly used for washing hands. Exceptions are made for medical facilities, schools, and daycare centers. Some cities go even further. There, the showers in swimming pools and sports halls will remain unheated.
Private pools may no longer be heated with gas and electricity, except for rehab centers, recreational facilities, and hotels. The new regulations will initially apply until the end of February.
https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-energy-saving-rules-come-into-force/a-62996041#:~:text=In%20public%20buildings%2C%20halls%20and,even%20lower%20in%20the%20future.
Bauxite;
Yea, you’re right.
Instead of the nasty, mean, blowhard Trump, we got Joke Bidet. That is just so much better, don’t you think?
God forbid we have a president that desires and strives to make the US energy independent, when instead we have a president that goes with his tail between his legs begging Venezuela ( !!!!!!) and Saudi Arabia to produce more oil.
And oh, by the way, it’s much better to un-employ thousands of US workers with the stroke of a pen, by preventing the construction of a nasty, mean oil pipeline.
Yep, can’t have that now, can we?
Yep much better to have wide open borders and let in tens of thousands of illegal immigrants. After all, the USA does not need laws; all we need is executive orders to nullify those stupid, dumb laws passed by congress.
Yep, much better to figure out how the US should reach a deal with Iran so that they can more openly proceed with the development of nuclear weapons – with little to no international oversight (as if that means anything at all, which it does not) – and maybe even send another very large aircraft to them laden with a few billion $$$ in cash. They could sure use it !!
After all, Iran and the US are such good pals and all, and Iran only wishes the best for the USA (and for Israel and Saudi Arabia, etc).
Yep, much better to employ 80,000 !!!!! new IRS agents because that will greatly benefit the average citizen of this nation.
And of course, that meaningless task a president is forced to make on occasion; nominating members of the SCOTUS.
Yep, better to have a Joke Bidet or HIllary Clinton have that responsibility instead of the mean, loud mouthed Trump.
Yep, better to keep relying on the mostly useless federal agencies that excel in expanding their size and responsibilities and budgets – paid for by the citizens – than have a president that can see what all of us clearly see – the incompetence, waste, ineptitude of the federal buraucracy – and simply bypasses them in an effort to actually get something done.
Trump did not achieve much of what he said he hoped to achieve; no doubt about it. But most presidents do not. At a minimum Trump was at least trying to implement policies that would be beneficial to the USA and to the average citizen.
And let’s be clear; the Russia/Trump scam and what is increasingly looking like a huge F-up in how Covid was handled, was a huge impediment in permitting Trump to proceed with what he hoped to achieve.
But obviously, you would prefer a senile president joke bidet instead.
Oft times – most of the time ??? – one’s choices are sub-optimal; you have to deal with the hand you are dealt. You must bite the bullet and decide which candidate will produce less harm; which candidate at least has the right intentions re: policies they wish to implement.
And which candidate has the best chance of winning.
There is no point during the primaries of voting for your “best choice candidate” if he/she has zero to no chance or prevailing in the Super Bowl.
There is no point NOT voting for a braggadocio like Trump, if instead you WILL wind up with a Biden or a Hillary or a Fetterman.
But that is what voters in large numbers do.
And this is how we wind up with a senile president with a 40 year political history of ZERO accomplishments, lies, and one beholden to the extreme left wing of the demokrat party.
But hey, that is apparently what you would prefer.
Anything but the mean, nasty, loud mouthed, bizarre hair-do Trump.
bof on November 17, 2022 at 7:12 am said:
Cornflour:
Replacing Harris as VP won’t be easy; whoever the President appoints to replace her will have to be confirmed by both houses of Congress.
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bof:
Thanks for passing that on. If I ever knew it, I’d completely forgotten. I guess that means Joe Biden will be a two-term zombie, who’da thunk it?
JohnTyler – That’s not the correct comparison. The choice for 2024 is not between Trump and Biden. It’s between Trump and the GOP field as to who can (i) win; and (ii) govern effectively.
Pointing out how bad Biden has been is completely irrelevant at this point. Except that given Trump’s terminal electability problems, a vote for Trump in the primaries is basically a vote for four more years of Biden or another Dem.
concerned conservative™ decides to force the choice between OMB; a known bad, evil, incompetent, poopy head, and the mythical Unicorn-riding GOP candidate in the wings who will slay or delay the well intentioned plans of the Democrats.
McTurtle the non Senate Majority leader talks of compromise with Brandon. Good thing he isn’t going to
be the House Majority Leader. Pack sand Mitch.
What a useless tool that turtle has grow up to be. But to a concerned conservative™ we should expect no more; too risky, wouldn’t be prudent.
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/11/17/mitch-mcconnells-concerning-remarks-about-compromise-n660135
Well, 71 comments. And counting.
Once again, Donald J. Trump has achieved his goal of drawing attention to himself.
Fasten your seatbelts. It’s going to be a bumpy two years.
Relevant to this thread:
https://thefederalist.com/2022/11/17/elites-disdain-for-trump-is-thinly-veiled-hatred-for-you/
Quotes:
“Generally speaking, when there is bipartisan collaboration on something, the American people are going to get screwed.”
And:
“They hate Trump, but they really hate you. You, your family, and your community are supposed to finance their special interests with your tax dollars until the end of time. They couldn’t stand having their interests put on the back burner for four brief years while Trump advanced the interests of the American people. Trump’s willingness to actually deliver for the people, effectively giving them a semblance of control over the government, wasn’t supposed to happen.”
Questions: is DeSantis a bipartisan Establishment squish? Can he avoid having to become one to win?
Look at how little has endured from Trump’s administration.
Because Congress did not work with him to lock in with legislation, what didn’t endure.
Presidents are not dictators, Bauxite. But voters can be taken in by passive-aggressive “statesmen” who work against sound policy … and distract the voters with conspiracies of collusion and disgust over “mean tweets” as they rob the citizens of their rights.
A disruptor like Trump may not fit our definition of “statesman”, but he does get the passive-aggressive to drop the facade and more reveal their true nature.
Which is the higher priority … “nice”, or our rights?
Jester Naybor – You may be satisifed with getting the “passive-aggressive to drop the facade and reveal their true nature.” I would prefer to win and not be governed by progressive Demcrats.
Conservative government > gridlock > squishy moderate government > progressive government
Some times, even most times, we don’t get our first choice.
if they steal your birthright what hundred of thousands have bled and died to protect, that’s not Trump’s fault, thats what brian kemp allowed to happen (not for himself) thats what the pantomine horses in the arizona legislature allowed to happen,
there are consequences to this, a border bled out, preachers being assaulted by swat teams, cancer stricken grandmothers locked away,
btw if you had any notion, that idealism is why we’ve shoveled 81 billion to ukraine, disabuse yourself of that notion,
Good grief miguel cervantes – there is no birthright to have the candidate you prefer win an election. The country would be a much, much different place (and I think a much better place) if my votes for president over the past few decades had won. Most of them did not.
Brian Kemp just won reelection by 7 points in a state where Republicans had lost the last three statewide elections. He delivered Georgians from Governor Stacy Abrams for the second election in a row. He was one of the very few Republicans who actually embraced early and mail-in voting in 2022. (Hint – the other one won by 20 points in Florida.) And you’re going on about how Kemp allowed some shadowy “them” to steal your birthright? Just listen to yourself.
yes the right to vote was secured by said sacrifices, among others
kemp allowed everything that has happened in the last two years, the steal had real and continuing consequences, do did ducey, and this will be felt by the residents of arizona, (although the steal may not carried out) not if he had anything to do with it, vegas i’m not surprised that mr clean faces machine stole it,
Also, what, exactly, should Brian Kemp have done about the 2020 election? I’m sorry, you cannot vacate an election or (worse) declare the losing candidate to be the winner just because it looks fishy.
As painful as it is to admit, the very best thing that Kemp and other Republican governors could have done after 2020 was to pass laws that prevented Democrats in their states from engaging in 2020 fishiness in future elections. That’s exactly what Kemp and DeSantis and Abbott did. They didn’t whine about stolen elections, they addressed the problem. They even embraced early and mail-in voting. And all three of them comfortably won reelection on what was otherwise a bad night for Republicans.
“Roosia will cleanse Ukraine (always a part of Mother Roosia!) of those Nazis and Satanists!” Have you missed that Miguel?
If I took your approach on Cuba I would not care however long the Castro family had sway. Not my island, not my problem? Nope, throw the Commie bastards off the island.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/kari-lake-issues-first-major-update-since-katie-hobbs-declared-victory_4869598.html
the same european jackasses who have kept the castro brothers afloat, the canadians who took over the american properties and lost their shirt because there is no legal code in havana for property rights, don’t get me started on pitifully little has been done on America’s doorstep,
Don’t whine about OMB. Its old, old, old.
Huxley: “We may not have to explain.”
It would be great if news from Europe turned the light bulb on for people. I don’t have much hope that the MSM will report things in such a way as to make the connection.
Our local rag has at least one fairly large article on climate change every day. The article always drives the CO2 as a bad pollutant and curbing fossil fuel usage as the way to save the planet. There is NEVER an article questioning any of this. It’s insidious grooming. If you don’t take the time to research the other side of the story, it becomes the gospel. “Everybody knows” it’s the truth – because they read it in the paper or saw it on TV.
I’m playing with ideas for phrases that might counter this. “Self-induced energy poverty” is one. “Net zero makes zero sense” is another. “Hydro-electric and nuclear, the only affordable, reliable low carbon energy.” “Windmills – intermittent, expensive energy that kills birds and must be replaced every twenty-five years.” “Wind and solar – intermittent, expensive, impractical energy.” Why settle for expensive, unreliable wind and solar energy when there are better solutions?” You get the idea. I’m not good at this. We need clever wordsmiths to take up the cause.
The AGW cult keeps claiming wind and solar as a solution without reference to the fact that, without some form of practical mega-storage system (batteries???), they’re not usable. The AGW propagandists completely ignore this. Joe Boden recently said he was going to close down coal plants and replace them with wind and solar farms. He actually claimed that all they needed to do was then hook them up to the existing transmission lines. This ignorant statement should have created a lot of news. It didn’t. The MSM covered it, with a pillow, until it stopped moving.
I fear this self-inflicted energy poverty more than anything I can remember. If the Republicans can get on top of this issue, I think it’s something they can ride all the way to the Whitehouse.
JJ,
Don’t forget old growth forest management. New trees suck up a lot more carbon dioxide than old trees. Old growth forests are more susceptible to conflagration, resulting in massive fires releasing massive amounts of CO2 (and other pollutants) into the air.
So, folks concerned about Anthropogenic climate change from atmospheric CO2 ought to be promoting forest management. Cull mature trees, use the lumber in construction and when it’s done put it in landfills. This limits forest fires and uses new trees like lungs, sucking CO2 out of the air where it is, ultimately, sequestered back underground after a few decades, or longer, of service as wood in furniture, construction, etc…
Hubert:
See this on DeSantis and financial contributions.
Rufus T., yes, there are so many things the environmentalists have gotten backwards it’s frightening. “Reduce CO2 – log and replant our forests.”
Our switching to natural gas fired power plants and increased efficiency of our autos has allowed the U.S. the be the world leader in decreasing CO2 emissions in the last 25 years. How many people know this? The MSM will not publicize this.
Even if we went back to a horse and buggy economy, which is all a wind and solar economy would provide, the effects would be miniscule when China and India are continuing to raise their CO2 emissions. Self-inflicted poverty! These points need to be hammered home again and again.
Bauxite;
My point is that voters should – but oft (most?) times do not – base their decisions on the policies a candidate will strive to implement.
But since voters like or not like a candidate based upon factors having absolutely nothing to do with his policy prescriptions, they will either not vote at all , or wind up voting for a candidate who opposes Trump.
As for Trumps failed efforts, you can thank the republicans, Russia Gate , the republicans, the efforts of Fauci, et. al., to topple Trump and of course, the republicans.
So my comparison of Trump vs Biden is applicable.
If (a big if) it comes down to Biden vs Trump once again, folks like you will simply not vote for Trump simply because they/you hate him.; his policy goals will be play no role at all their/your decision. They / you will either not vote at all for president, or vote for Biden.
The visceral hatred that many like you have for Trump is all that matters.
And voting based upon emotion is how we wind up with guys like Biden.
By the way, if DeSantis chooses not to run, which republican has any hope of prevailing against Biden?
This latter statement is truly astonishing given the ineptitude, incompetence and radical policies of Biden.
But hey, better to vote for a sure loser than cast a vote for a Trump (even if you think his policies are in accord with your views).
Another evidence of the illogic of CO2 production, is the use of wood as an energy source. It’s is considered a renewable source– since we can always plant a new tree and the total life cycle is judged to be carbon neutral.
The problem with this is, if we’re in a CO2 crisis– burning wood puts all the CO2 release when the wood is burned, rather than the natural release over decades and centuries as the wood decomposes and releases CO2.
Neo: thanks for the Ace of Spades link. Money is a given in politics; some of it is going to smell. I’m less concerned about where the money comes from–for Trump, DeSantis, or anybody else who might emerge as a Republican candidate–than I am about what the candidate does with that money (Ace: “judge them by their actions”) and his/her position vis-a-vis the D.C. establishment. As I indicated in an earlier comment, I have a personal preference for wrecking balls (Trump) but would happily vote for DeSantis if he can get the job done with less collateral damage.
Whether he can or even wants to is an open question. We need a class traitor who can summon a kamikaze streak if necessary. Not sure DeSantis fits that bill. I am quite sure that Pence, Romney, Noem, Haley etc.–the kind of candidates Bauxite would probably find acceptable–do not.
The CO2 Climate Change scam has always been about “rates.” Rates of release and storage of carbon dioxide, old and new. But mostly about the rate of destruction of the present political structures; carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide are just tools used to destroy those structures (destroy the underlying economy and poof socialist/communist/totalitarian utopia).
Miguel you seem to forget the role Roosia (and USSR) has played proping up the Castro’s. Who did Vlad work for in the old timey times?
Bauxite, between 1989 and 2017 we endured the last two choices on your list.
And the passive-aggressive liars who promise us that they will solve our problems FOR us kept increasing in power and influence ALL that time.
Winning elections, then marching in place, is not enough to stop that. Passive-aggressive liars turn “nice” against you. Even if we win, we lose.
Rights must be the priority, over “nice”.
Bauxite: “Conservative government > gridlock > squishy moderate government > progressive government”
OK, here’s my preference scale:
Federalism (states going their own way individually or in like-minded coalitions) > Gridlock > Populist government
I want to see D.C. rendered largely irrelevant in the day-to-day lives of American citizens, even if it were (temporarily!) under a populist administration. If we can’t have that, then gridlock is the next best alternative.
I’m not a fan of the “Driving toward the cliff at a prudent 35 mph is preferable to driving toward the cliff at 90 mph” argument. It’s technically true, but it’s a colossal missing of the point. The destination is the same; both scenarios ought to be unacceptable to freedom-minded people. There are alternatives.
Having previously assigned an erroneous biography to a fellow commenter, I’m not going to name names. But somebody made the point on a previous thread that our side has been alternating between squishy bipartisan moderation and purportedly “conservative” government for most of the past 75 years. How has that worked out for us?
JJ, maybe “self inflicted poverty” will meet part of your wordsmanship needs.
It has a certain “sit up and take notice” aspect to it. At least it did for me.
@ Brian E on November 16, 2022 at 8:04 pm
RE “mass formation”
The official framing of the mass formation (or mass psychosis) “phenomenon” is misleading and wrong in terms of what the whole true reality is. The false hope-addicted psychologists and their acolytes want you to believe this is “just some temporary occasional” madness by the masses when it is but a spike of a CHRONIC madness going on for aeons with “civilized” people — read “The 2 Married Pink Elephants In The Historical Room –The Holocaustal Covid-19 Coronavirus Madness: A Sociological Perspective & Historical Assessment Of The Covid “Phenomenon”” …. https://www.rolf-hefti.com/covid-19-coronavirus.html
One of these mainstream psychologists who have been spreading this whitewashed reality, Dr. Desmet, also fails to see that the PLANNED Covid Psyop is a TOTALLY deliberate ploy because he doesn’t think (after more than 1 year, even 2 years, into this total PLANNED scam!) it’s ALL intentionally sinister as he stated in a prior podcast (this makes him witting or unwitting controlled opposition). It should be apparent that Desmet’s lack of truth-telling is then also present in his largely plagiarized truth-distorting mass formation theory.
In the May of 2022 podcast with James Corbett he stated that “some people tend to overestimate the degree of planning and intentions” (behind the COUNTLESS, VERIFIABLE, FULLY INTENTIONAL, FULLY PLANNED atrocities by the ruling tribe of psychopaths over the last century alone) and see all of it as being planned which Desmet called “an extreme position” … Sound logical thinking is “extreme” and therefore false and sick in his demented delusional view!
In his overpriced misleading whitewashing old material regurgitated book the psychology of totalitarianism he too states that “There are countless … examples that seem to point in the direction of a plan being implemented, such as the fact that the definition of ‘pandemic’ was adjusted shortly before the coronavirus crisis; that the definition of ‘herd immunity’ was changed during the crisis, implying that only vaccines can achieve it … [he continuous with several other obvious facts of an ENTIRELY PLANNED event, especially discerned through the totality of all these facts].” “SEEM to point in the direction of a plan”??? No! They most evidently, clearly, and irrefutably DO demonstrate and prove it IS a COMPLETELY AND FULLY DELIBERATE PlanDemic! A big scam. An Entirely Planned Holocaust against the non-ruling herd of people (see cited link above). A coherent 12-year old kid can figure that out. But not Mr. I’m entitled to teach my deep wisdom to the world professor.
It clearly shows Desmet’s own complete lunacy. But because almost everyone in the culture is a member of mass formation (madness), including the “woke” people of the alternative media domain, hardly anyone recognizes Desmet’s lunacy. Not surprising that he has even become some type of popular “guru” among the adherents of the alternative media landscape and his whitewashed fake narrative strongly resonates with both mainstream people and alternative mainstream folks.
“All experts serve the state and the media and only in that way do they achieve their status. Every expert follows his master, for all former possibilities for independence have been gradually reduced to nil by present society’s mode of organization. The most useful expert, of course, is the one who can lie. With their different motives, those who need experts are falsifiers and fools. Whenever individuals lose the capacity to see things for themselves, the expert is there to offer an absolute reassurance.” —Guy Debord
As expected, “useful expert” Desmet has been also advocating and pushing the false misleading dogma-based non-scientific holy mantra of trust the official science … “everything and everyone should follow the scientific consensus” [ https://archive.ph/9QRmw ] — meaning the fabricated fraudulent official consensus science behind the Covid jabs that the killing of millions of people around the world is based on(!!). Are you STILL wondering whom he’s wittingly or unwittingly serving? That’s why it’s no wonder he’s been heavily popularized globally by the dominant psychopathic world instead of censored and suppressed (as lots of truth-tellers have been), yet in his crafty stylish total hypocrisy and public misdirection ploy, he wants you to buy his belief that everyone should have a voice. Everyone BUT the true truth-tellers is what the reality is.
With his false use of language Desmet also obscures or hides the true reality instead of directly and uncompromising exposing it — aiding the obfuscation of the vital reality of what the ruling authorities really are. He speaks of ‘the elite’ (as he does in a number of podcasts) when, in reality, they are THE SCUM OF HUMANS because they are REALITY-VERIFIED PSYCHOPATHS (see referenced source above). Yet in the Corbett podcast he “teaches” us that we, the masses, need to start thinking differently. Right… how about YOU start with sane instead of insane thinking/talking/”teaching”/etc, Dr. Desmet?
How do self-styled “truth-tellers” wake up the masses to the so-called truth when they THEMSELVES use lies with their deceitful fake language???
No one is “teaching” or “waking up” the ignorant masses to the CORE truths with lies, with the official “language of lies” (see cited source above).
This all means Desmet is ALSO a member of the masses of lunatics, an ACTIVE CARD-CARRYING MEMBER of mass formation!!! When, if at all, will he wake up from his state of mass psychosis, his “invisible” stupidity? When, if at all, will he face the TRUE and FULL reality instead of hiding behind fantasies such as his whitewashed “reality” of human civilization?
It shows we live in a global mental asylum with criminal and/or delusional mainstream psychologists, scientists, and docs as the guards, “teachers” and “therapists” … The blind/criminal/mad leading the blind/criminal/mad; the blind/criminal/mad adhere to the blind/criminal/mad = the human madhouse.
Worst of all, perhaps, the mass formation/mass psychosis notion frames the problem as the public being a mere unaccountable non-culpable victim in this phenomenon (the gist of the circular argument is: the masses should change their thinking but they got brainwashed so they’re victims). Nothing could be further from the truth (see referenced source above).
In October of 2022, once a few people caught onto his public-misdirecting game he took no responsibility for it but dishonestly framed himself as the victim of frivolous attacks against him — https://archive.ph/9QRmw
Desmet is right in that truth-activists must fight against mass formation psychosis (human madness). That also means exposing HIS deeply destructive mad part of it. This comment serves, in part, that objective.
If you’re in the US and your employer mandates the toxic/lethal COVID jabs, register to receive a free “Medical Exemption Certificate” at https://drgastonmedicalexemption.com or https://lc.org/exempt
A little pep talk for the faint of heart:
LISTEN UP!
Kate:
The Constitution does not actually require the President and Vice-President to be from different states. The 12th amendment says: “The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves . . .” This could be a problem for a Trump–DeSantis ticket, as they might well need the electoral votes of Florida. Dick Cheney moved back to WY from TX so he could be GWBush’s running mate; likewise Trump could change his residency back to NY if he were to pick a Floridian as his running mate.
bof, Trump lives rent-free in the heads of so many of his detractors, he could already establish residence in almost any state.
Seriously, though … he might be better served in the scenario you present, by establishing residence in a red state that is not inclined to hassle him the way NY is so inclined.
Ah, bof, once again you are reading the text carefully. This is a habit I should adopt. Yes, a Republican president is going to need Florida electoral votes.
Dick Cheney moved back to WY from TX so he could be GWBush’s running mate;
The Cheney-Perry clan own a couple of vacation properties in Wilson, Wyoming. No actual moves required for such maneuvers. Gets a little embarrassing when you have to film your kids reciting family lore about their great-great-grandfather because, well, you’ve stayed in Wyoming but never actually lived there.