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Open thread 11/8/22 — 19 Comments

  1. I found this short piece by a political changer:

    I’ve leaned left politically my entire adult life…until recently. The nationwide riots in 2020 following George Floyd’s death, were a major turning point for me, although not the only ones. Although I felt Chauvin had acted negligently and callously, I couldn’t understand why the media insisted on injecting race into the dialogue without any reasonable basis. Wouldn’t this type of careless reporting only serve to worsen racial tensions? The rioting and destruction were only going to distract from real issues, unnecessarily claiming innocent victims in the name of a cause that was being overshadowed by its own destructive methodology.

    I could not find a fellow liberal who was willing to simply condemn, not the peaceful protests, but the actual riots.

    More:

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/11/breaking_the_democrat_party_ties_that_bind.html

  2. Looking back on election day 2020, we did not know about the mules, Zuckerbux, republican observers being forced out of counting rooms, the plumbing problem in the Fulton county counting room, and many more. What surprises will we get this year?

  3. Nonapod, I just read that in AZ and TX were also having problems.

    Great posting NEO. The photos were amazing. For a very long time I had a picture from the Hubble as my Wallpaper on the computer.

    I voted in person for the first time in a long time.

  4. Shenanigans? What shenanigans??
    This is shaping up to be another “Most secure, most honest, most fair election in American History”…
    “Fetterman Predicts ‘Dramatic’ Overnight Comeback, Taps Clinton Lawyer To Fight PA Election Law”—
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fetterman-predicts-dramatic-overnight-comeback-taps-clinton-lawyer-fight-pa-election-law
    “Clinton Lawyer” is none other than Marc Elias—you know, the shadow leader of the No Malarkey Liberation Front.
    So what shenanigans could we possibly be talking about exactly??

    (By the way, what are the odds of Fetterman winning the election with a RECORD NUMBER OF VOTES—all finalized a week or so AFTER the election?)

  5. I am missing the love from all those people that sent me Emails, asking for money. I am not getting them anymore, do they hate me?

  6. What the Democrats are counting on:
    “Dems spent a fortune on fake news ahead of Election Day”—
    https://nypost.com/2022/11/07/democrats-spent-a-fortune-on-fake-news-ahead-of-election-day/
    Funding a hyuge campaign “against misinformation”…by using and manipulating massive “misinformation”.

    One may assume it’s the only way they can win the “most secure, most honest election in the history of the universe”….

    And they know it.

    + Bonus:
    “PA Cities And Dem Volunteers Rush To Help Voters Replace Flawed Ballots”—
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/pa-cities-and-dem-volunteers-rush-help-voters-replace-flawed-ballots
    Opening grafs:
    ‘With help from left-wing organizations, the largest urban cities and counties in the battleground state of Pennsylvania are going all-out to help thousands of voters replace flawed ballots submitted via mail.
    ‘Pennsylvania law requires that voters “shall…fill out, date and sign the declaration” printed on the ballot’s outer envelope. Republicans have been litigating to ensure that election officials follow the law and invalidate ballots with improperly prepared envelopes.
    ‘Depending on where you live, it seems any date will do just fine. “There has been evidence that at least some Pennsylvania counties have deemed any date to be acceptable, even dates in the future,” according to the Associated Press….’

    Yep, the old switcheroo…
    Hold on. How could they possibly know that so many mail-in ballots might be, um, flawed…???

  7. Then there’s this “curious” item.
    Election integrity at its very best…
    “Hearing commissioners in Philly today are arguing they are going to go back to the old procedure to count double-votes because if they don’t, Republicans would ‘spread misinformation’ about election integrity;
    “That’s when you vote by mail but then also show up to vote”—
    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1590015790119784448?cxt=HHwWgMDQ1fq775AsAAAA
    H/T Ron Coleman twitter feed.

    More details:
    “Philadelphia imposes last-minute election change that will slow down vote count”—
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/philadelphia-imposes-last-minute-election-change-will-slow-down-vote-count

    Gotta love that “LAST MINUTE” stuff….
    (Wonder how many other states’ll decide that’s the way, uh huh, uh huh, we gotta do it…for voter integrity! (of course)….

  8. Why is it a threat to our republic and our institutional structure to point out election fraud? I would think, simply as a matter of basic logic, that pointing out corruption and fraud is a way to STRENGTHEN the integrity and foundation of our nation.

    What the heck am I missing here? What could Charles Lipson be thinking? https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/11/07/the_democrats_chicken_little_closing_argument_148437.html

    Most of the article is about the absurd and dangerous rhetoric of the Democrats. But he insists, in a bizarre false equivalence way, that the GOP is also guilty. Because of election deniers.

    ” The point is that both parties have been doing it in their own ways, jeopardizing the institutions that guarantee our freedoms. Nor is it wrong for Biden to underscore the threats to our institutions. ”

    “Democrats are right to call out “election deniers,”

    He can’t possibly be serious. Given the long, sordid history of outrageous election theft, does he really think we are better off pretending it never happens? Ever?

    This is every bit as preposterous as supporting global warming policies even when you know all the supposed proof is fabricated data fed into models proven to be wrong.

    We can speculate about his motives/excuses (TDS; an immature, emotional need to be seen as fair and balanced; a lifetime on campus has caused brain rot, etc.). But he can’t possibly mean what he has written.

    When the sheriff’s gun-waving goons steal the ballot boxes and pronounce him the winner of the election, is it a threat to society, the rule of law, and our constitutional order to question the propriety of his theft of the election? I don’t think so. I’d say that failing to do so results in the destruction of that very constitutional order and the rule of law.

    I can’t believe that even needs to be said.

  9. Sarah Hoyt:

    “Let’s agree: One day, paper ballots, ID, purple fingers. No same day registration, no vote by mail. Early vote only with proof of inability to vote on the day, and only at a specified date and place, under close supervision. Vote by mail only for the US military. And their votes WILL be counted.

    And then the elections will be secure.”

  10. So it begins….20% of the voting machines “break down” (yeah, right!) in Maricopa county.

    And they wonder why we are “deniers”.

  11. physicsguy,

    My brother used to be a GOP member of the Davidson County election commission (Nashville, TN). Certain machines were known to ALWAYS breakdown. They were always placed in precincts that were heavily GOP as part of an allocation that was already miserly compared to the number of machines available in precincts that were heavily D.

    Every election the turnout by afternoon at the elementary school (which always got a broken machine among the inadequate allotment) near my parents’ home would have a long line out the door, around the parking lot, out onto the sidewalk, down the street and turning to follow the sidewalk on the side street. It usually took well over an hour to vote. Worse if it got bad. It was easy to count the cars that drove by, slowed down and then moved on. After a hard day at work with dinner to put on the table or eat with family, voters who weren’t heavily committed said screw it.

    Voters in D precincts could usually walk in and vote without waiting at all. At worst, lines for them were short.

    Serious, deliberate voter suppression. Every election. Standard operating procedure. For decades.

  12. https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/midnight-repost-how-the-localized-nature-of-democrat-vote-tampering-will-influence-the-2022-election/

    “what is going on when the results are delayed (as predicted by Joe Biden in one of his many ugly speeches last week) in states like Pennsylvania, New York, Minnesota, and Michigan. And if it looks like Democrats will lose in Oregon and Washington expect delays there as well. Those delays will be aimed at changing the results so that the Democrats do not lose.”

    How the localized nature of Democrat vote tampering will influence the 2022 election

    Other countries wrap ballot counting in an evening. It’s only in Democrat cities and states where it takes days.

  13. Meanwhile the current storm off the coast of Florida has revved up into Tropical Storm Nicole, Category 1, perhaps soon to be promoted officially to Hurricane Nicole.

    My American flight tomorrow to Dallas (then to Albuquerque) has been canceled. D.’s JetBlue to Boston hasn’t been canceled but likely will be, especially since Nicole is forecast to follow the classic path up the East Coast.

    We’re now in Ormond Beach, my hometown (next to Daytona). D. and I have been visiting my old high school classmates and having a lovely time, but I sure don’t want to drive by car back to West Palm in Nicole either.

    I’ve beennoticing the damage from Hurricane Ian and it was pretty bad. I hoped we could get in and out before another one.

    So it’s not clear how and when we will get back to our respective homes.

  14. @ huxley > “So it’s not clear how and when we will get back to our respective homes.”

    We will be anxiously standing by hoping for an update that you had a safe journey.

  15. Lee:

    As I’ve said before, please stop posting random studies on COVID here that are easy to counter. Every single one you’ve posted is easy to counter, for the simple reason that for each study you post it is fairly easy to find others that refute it. Medical research is like that, and it’s only over time and with a great many studies that you know what’s what. The preponderance of studies on this say that heart problems are more common as a result of infection than as a result of vaccination.

    For example:

    The overall risk of myocarditis – inflammation of the heart muscle – is substantially higher immediately after being infected with COVID-19 than it is in the weeks following vaccination for the coronavirus, a large new study in England shows.

    The detailed analysis of nearly 43 million people was published Monday in the American Heart Association journal Circulation.

    “We found that across this large dataset, the entire COVID-19-vaccinated population of England during an important 12-month period of the pandemic when the COVID-19 vaccines first became available, the risk of myocarditis following COVID-19 vaccination was quite small compared to the risk of myocarditis after COVID-19 infection,” the study’s lead author, Martina Patone, said in a news release. She is a statistician at the University of Oxford Nuffield Department of Primary Health Care Sciences in England.

    The study was from August of 2022.

    Or look at this study from February of 2022:

    Myocardial injury as evidenced by elevated troponin appears to be a prominent feature of the disease, occurring in 20% to 30% of hospitalized patients, and cardiovascular complications contribute to approximately 40% of all COVID-19–related deaths.3 Despite this, clinical myocarditis during the acute phase of illness has been reported in only 1.4% to 7.2% of cases in autopsy studies.4 However, approximately 60% to 80% of patients who recover from COVID-19 were found to have cardiac magnetic resonance imaging evidence of myocarditis at a median of 70 days from infection.5 More importantly, most of these patients had minimal underlying cardiac disease and mild initial infection that did not require hospitalization.

    See also this:

    The risk of developing myocarditis and other inflammatory heart conditions after COVID-19 vaccination is substantially lower than it is after SARS-CoV-2 infection, according to an analysis of electronic health records from 40 US health systems.

    Although it’s a rare complication, myocarditis has been associated with both SARS-CoV-2 infection and messenger RNA (mRNA)–based vaccines against the virus. To directly compare the likelihood of developing it and other cardiac complications after vaccination vs infection, the investigators calculated incidence rates of myocarditis; myocarditis or pericarditis; and myocarditis, pericarditis, and multisystem inflammatory syndrome (MIS) among 15.2 million people treated in health systems that participated in the National Patient-Centered Clinical Research Network from early January 2021 through January 2022.

    Among males aged 12 to 17 years, the incidence of myocarditis or pericarditis after infection with SARS-CoV-2 was about twice as high as after vaccination with 2 doses of an mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccine. When MIS, a post–COVID-19 syndrome that often includes cardiac complications, was included in the comparison, the risk of cardiac problems was about 2 to 6 times higher after infection than after 2 doses of vaccine. Men aged 18 to 29 years had a 7 to 9 times greater risk of cardiac complications after infection than after 2 doses of vaccine.

    Or this:

    The risk of developing myocarditis — or inflammation of the heart muscle — is seven times higher with a COVID-19 infection than with the COVID-19 vaccine, according to a recent study by Penn State College of Medicine scientists. Patients with myocarditis can experience chest pains, shortness of breath or an irregular heartbeat. In severe cases, the inflammation can lead to heart failure and death.

    “Our findings show that the risk of myocarditis from being infected by COVID-19 is far greater than from getting the vaccine,” said Dr. Navya Voleti, a resident physician in the Department of Medicine at Penn State Health Milton S. Hershey Medical Center. “Moving forward, it will be important to monitor the potential long-term effects in those who develop myocarditis.”

    That study was published a month ago.

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