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Tulsi Gabbard says buh-bye to the Democratic Party — 28 Comments

  1. Many have been wondering for some time how the only rational and sane figure of prominence in the party currently in the process of destroying the republic could remain beholden to it in any way. Her brief statement on Twitter is superb and touches on many salient issues; on “wokeness”, Chris Rufo and James Lindsay continue to produce remarkable work, on the “cabal of warmongers”, one should consult the writings of Jordan Schachtel (from the right) and Michael Tracey (from the left) on SubStack, as well as many of Tucker’s recent segments, while, concerning the ubiquity of “anti-white” rhetoric, all are encouraged to watch the latest video, perhaps her very best (just posted at FrontPage) from Candace Owens on “l’affaire t-shirt” from Parisian Fashion Week.

  2. I suspect she will become an independent.

    The Mitch McConnell R’s won’t like her much more than the D’s as they vote for the FISA courts, renew the Patriot Act and generally are not supportive of the Bill of Rights.

  3. Related:
    The “leadership” is a bunch of litigious, vengeful, fearful psychopaths….
    “Vaxxed Army pilot reprimanded, denied promotion for questioning vax, investigation bias;
    “Chief Warrant Officer 3 Brandon Budge consented to vaccination in order to be present for the birth of his son, but faces punishment that could range up to discharge, loss of wings, according to military attorney.”—
    https://justthenews.com/accountability/vaxxed-army-pilot-faces-loss-wings-job-because-he-questioned-vax-and-investigation

    One is NOT EVEN ALLOWED to express doubt (cf. California) about THE NARRATIVE(TM) in “Biden”‘s Unrelenting Stasi Agglomerate…

    File under: We are all Winston Smith now….

  4. As I said in the open thread, she joins that dying breed of near centrist democrats that actually seem to care about the country such as Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman. The fact that the Ds are celebrating her departure so enthusiastically just proves the point she makes.

  5. Heh….
    “https://nypost.com/2022/10/11/green-goblin-crew-member-released-without-bail-in-nyc-subway-beating/”—
    https://nypost.com/2022/10/11/green-goblin-crew-member-released-without-bail-in-nyc-subway-beating/
    Key graf:
    ‘ An alleged member of the neon-cloaked “Green Goblin” gang accused of pummeling two 19-year-old women on a Times Square subway train was released without bail Tuesday — with her lawyer insisting she didn’t do anything wrong. ‘

    All they did was F*** Up some white women pretty badly.
    White women.
    So what?
    NYC, its Honorable Mayor, it Honorable City Council and its Honorable DA want to see this become the norm. In fact, it will soon become wildly popular; it will soon become “VIRTUE”!
    (Oh…wait a minute….)

  6. Her comments were very bold, especially calling out anti-white racism. This was an impressive display of integrity. It reminded me of Ronald Reagan’s comment about the Democrat party leaving him. I hope she inspires others to recognize how radically totalitarian the Democrats have become. She was appealing before and is more so now.

  7. These lyrics seem appropriate;

    “Where does it stop?
    Where do you dare me
    To draw the line?
    You’ve got the body
    Now you want my soul
    Don’t even think about it

    Yeah, I, I’ll do anything
    That you want me to
    Yeah, I’ll do almost anything
    That you want me to, ooh

    But I can’t go for that, no (No)
    No can do
    I can’t go for that, no (No)
    No can do
    I can’t go for that, no (No)
    No can do
    I can’t go for that
    Can’t go for that
    Can’t go for that
    Can’t go for that”

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y380bkHlye8

  8. Sorry, don’t trust her. All the things she said about the fascist left have been true for years. She’s just seeing it now?

  9. jvermeer,

    I know many friends and family who I think are decent people in general and democrats, but still refuse to see how the party has changed. As Neo has demonstrated many times how difficult such a change can be. Credit to Gabbard to have the scales fall off.

  10. The likely prospect of nuclear war focuses the mind

    It might be a bluff i dont think so

  11. While I respect Gabbard for being honest and sane enough to walk away from the Democrat Party, unless she joins the Republicans, she has no political future.

    Independents only flutter around the edges; they don’t win office (unless they are Lisa Murkowski, but she’s really a special case).

    Maybe Tulsi could get out in front of the #WalkAway horde, but that still wouldn’t change the basic two-party dynamics.

    It took a major ideological / social issue for the Whigs to give way to the Republicans in the 1860s, and that didn’t result in a three-party system — it just replaced one of the major two parties with a spin-off.

    https://www.history.com/topics/19th-century/whig-party

    However, I don’t think there will ever again be a break-away party, because of the vast amount of money and infrastructure in the existing ones.

    OTOH, if there are some other like-minded prominent defectors, maybe they can throw enough sand in the gears to get more conservatives elected, despite the efforts of the Republican Party to prevent that.

    https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/11/trump-blasts-mcconnell-for-prioritizing-establishment-allies-over-a-senate-majority/

  12. Can she get elected from hawaii if not where there is a certain confluence with maga republicans on intervention issues probably more moderate on pro choice issues

  13. Dershowitz has been plenty courageous.
    (He just can’t seem to make that next logical leap…and that’s because it’s entirely an emotional decision—Neo talked about this.)
    She’s been consistently—and surprisingly—courageous for the past several years.

    Took on both Harris and Hillary. And won convincingly…or at least convincingly enough that they’re delighted she’s “gone”…

    (Perhaps the 2016 debate with the Kama-Kama-Kamala Chameleon was the turning point…?)

    OTOH, she is, of course, a vet, so she can’t close her eyes to a significant chunk of her own personal history. Nonetheless, she deserves a lot of credit. Doesn’t mean that she hasn’t said some bizarre things in the past…but then look at Naomi Wolf—sorry, DR. Naomi Wolf… People do, it seems, evolve….and occasionally—if hopefully—for the better(!)

  14. Unless DeSantis takes her as a running mate she’s going nowhere.
    May go nowhere anyway…but she’s going to need something bigger than an upraised finger to the Ds to go anywhere but back home.
    Fox News maybe?

  15. She is speaking at John Hinderaker’s Center for the American Experiment this week and was on Joe Rogan yesterday. She is getting a rollout on the center-right.

    Her denunciation of the current Dems is pretty thorough.

  16. For those of you stating Gabbard’s “going nowhere.”

    It seems like her income from social and conventional media has been rising over the years, and will continue to rise the more she appeals to Conservatives and Independents. In America it’s still possible to make money outside of politics. 😉

  17. @ Rufus > “it’s still possible to make money outside of politics”

    True, but is that all she wants?
    Sarah Palin went that route when the GOP establishment kicked her to the curb in 2008, she just lost to Murkowski in Alaska (although the PTB had to change the election rules to make sure that happened), and she now only has a fan-club in the wider Republican Party with no solid political base.
    However, the more Democrats #WalkAway, the weaker their party becomes, so that’s all to the good.
    Maybe we will see the formation of a sane central party, taken from both the Ds and the Rs, who can represent that part of the country not insanely woke, insanely libertarian, or insanely whatever-the-alt-right-is-because-no-one-really-knows.
    It would require black-listing everyone in Congress that is owned by China, or some other foreign power (even Russia for real, and including the stateless Communists), which could be a hard slog.

    AND actively discriminate against anyone who hates America per se, as opposed to disagreeing on the details.

  18. Maybe it’s time to unleash “The 1776 Project” (followed by “The 1863 Project”) with Gabbard as Official Docent…and Naomi Wolf riding shotgun—I believe she purchased an AR-15 not all that long ago.
    Gabbard’s honest, serious, intelligent, photogenic, a vet, Hawaiian, doesn’t shy away from an argument…and—to me, at least—she kinda looks like Lady Liberty, i.e., the one on Liberty Island…well, from a distance.

    The battle cry could be “Enough!”

    I really don’t think she’s in it for the money…though I’ve been called “naive” on (far) more than one occasion….

  19. Could of course be wrong, but I’ll go out on a limb and say that’s probably because she’s against the policy of, as she sees it, arming and encouraging Ukraine as well as—perhaps—Iran and its proxies.

    (OTOH, the Democrats have all but officially declared war on the USA….)

  20. Joe Rogan interviewed Tulsi yesterday and she explains her decision to leave the Democratic Party and is not looking (at this point) to run for office. She also talks about how she won elections in Hawaii with an independent edge. It is a good interview on ‘Spotify’.

    I have a lot of respect for Tulsi and have too dropped the Democrat Party after decades of supporting them. They have lost their way and are ‘communist’, nothing more and nothing less.

  21. @ Barry > “but he makes some valid points here”

    Tom Luongo makes some very good points, but remember what he himself said at your link (the one under ZH’s) about his speculation on a DeSantis/Gabbard ticket in 2024:
    https://tomluongo.me/2022/10/11/whos-afraid-of-tulsi-gabbard-everyone/

    If you can’t see the script of Gabbard giving a unifying, edifying speech about healing the divisions and getting back to work at the GOP convention then I’ve taught you not one thing in five years about how screenwriting actually works.

    Despite surface appearances, we are not in a soap opera or a feature film.
    Nobody has a script, nobody is shaping every “random” event to have a meaning, and there is no guarantee of a happy ending, for the usual meaning of that term.

    However, I would vote for Gabbard against any main-line Democrat candidate if it came to that.

    Historical warning: Lincoln selected the “moderate Democrat” Andrew Johnson for his second VP, and President Johnson completely torpedoed Lincoln’s proposed reconstruction of the South, so that many of the gains from winning the war were lost again.
    Kind of like Democrats after Nixon won the war in Vietnam.

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