Did you know that evil Governor Ron DeSantis is a Nazi and a human trafficker?
Documentary maker Ken Burns on De Santis:
Without hesitation, he agreed with [CNN] host John Berman’s suggestion that the doc addressed “some of the same themes” seen in Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ decision to send “two planeloads of migrants to Martha’s Vineyard.”
“This is coming straight out of the authoritarian playbook,” Burns, 69, insisted of DeSantis’ relocation of around 50 border crossers to the Massachusetts hotspot…
“And so, when you look at the story that we’re telling of the US and the Holocaust, you understand that the time to save a democracy is before it’s lost. We promise you,” he warned.
Sitting alongside co-director Lynn Novick, Burns insisted that sending immigrants to one of the ritziest vacation spots in the US was actually “the abstraction of human life.”
“It’s basically saying that you can use a human life that is as valuable as yours or mine or Lynn’s and to put it in a position of becoming a political pawn in somebody’s authoritarian game,” he insisted.
“This is what’s so disturbing about DeSantis — to use human beings, to weaponize human beings for a political purpose,” he claimed.
Something the left never does. The left virtue-signals at the expense of others, but as soon as they’re asked to put their money where their mouths are, they treat those same human beings like hot potatoes.
The Holocaust analogy is beneath contempt. But I have to say I’ve never been a Ken Burns fan, so it doesn’t really surprise me.
And then there are the charges that DeSantis is a human trafficker. Who’s making them? Why, Hillary Clinton, of course:
“Some politicians would rather not only have an issue, but exacerbate it to the extent of literally human trafficking,” the former Democratic presidential nominee told host Joe Scarborough on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”.
Yes, some politicians do exacerbate it. One of those politicians is Hillary Clinton.
There will be relentless attacks on everything DeSantis says and does between now and at least 2024. He will be turned into Trump-squared if they can do it. DeSantis has a different history and presentation than Trump, so it may be a bit harder for them to succeed, but I have no doubt it will work that way for Democratic voters and at least some independents.
Meanwhile, the GOP pundits I call the OnlyTrumpers will attack DeSantis from the right. See for example the discussion that begins here on a previous thread.
Not germane to the topic at hand but here is a video that the MSM will never show. because the murderer is a member of the anointed class.
https://www.asian-dawn.com/2022/09/16/man-who-murdered-store-clerk-charged-with-capital-murder/
The assailant murdered the store clerk execution style despite the fact the victim followed all the directives of the killer.
Can’t wait to see the woke point of view blaming this on slavery on or on British imperialism. This makes total sense in that the victim was born in
born in Dhapai village in Kapurthala district of India.
Yep, without the financial and military support of that village, slavery would never have existed in the Western Hemisphere.
I won’t let such accusations stand. Yes, they are political pawns, but it is Democrats that made them so and put them on the chessboard. DeSantis and Abbott simply, and honestly finally, made a better play with those pawns.
yes the woman, (i used the term advisedly) invasion of libya, opened up the slave markets for west africa, led to the assasination of an american ambassador, created a bloody path down to the Niger river,
yes, moving dems to the affluent abodes of the goulets (mentioned in the other link) is exactly like cherokee evacuation, but they are soulless blood sucking creatures, best accounted in lovecraft and other fiction,
DeSantis 2024.
Amazingly enough there is little if any mention that when Obama was president the routine transporting of illegals to all parts of the country was done. Or that Biden has been doing it for the last 18 months.
In one respect it doesn’t matter what they call De Santis and Abbott. Everyone knows the truth about the border and the massive illegal invasion taking place.
Because everyone knows the truth, those who accept and join in the slander are knowingly participating in bearing false witness. That many, perhaps most today dismiss the gravity of that sin, changes the future consequences that result from that sin, not in the least. Knowingly acting to unjustly slander another person’s reputation is not just tantamount to intentionally maiming them. It is with intention to maim another.
Those who knowingly slandered Nicholas Sandman and Kyle Rittenhouse deserve imprisonment. While innocent Jan. 6th protestors now face the possibility of life in prison.
Those on the left are too blinded by ideological fanaticism and hate to face the tyrannical future they seek to fashion.
Yet fittingly, they sow the seeds of their own self-destruction.
I don’t think there’s much attacking of DeSantis from the Right. There IS a lot of people already tired of the “DeSantis would be so much better than Trump” argument.
Mike
MBunge:
It depends what you call “much.” Conservative Treehouse (sundance) has been hammering away at it, and that’s a blog with a lot of traffic. I’ve seen commenters fanning out to many other blogs on the right, quoting him on it.
I’ve therefore seen quite a bit of it.
Pretty soon those big shots on Martha Vineyard are going to find out what it’s like to be wealthy in a 3rd world country. You have to:
– Have armed guards to protect your property, because the police are ineffective, corrupt, or in the pockets of nasty people like cartel kingpins.
– Live with the constant threat of home invasion robberies.
– Take a different route to and from work everyday. Why? People who mean you harm are watching and trying to figure out the best place to plan an ambush.
– Have walls around your home with broken bottles cemented to the top so that anyone attempting to scale the wall risks serious injury.
– Carry a concealed weapon at all times. Sure, you might have a bodyguard, but how do you know he’s not compromised?
– Be on constant alert to the possibility of being framed for something you didn’t do.
I came by all this useful knowledge by traveling extensively in 3rd world countries for business. In Panama, a helpful hint I received was that even if you think no one has been in your hotel room, before leaving the country unpack all your luggage and pack it again. Why? Because drug smugglers use people they think are unsuspecting Americans to transport contraband for them. It really stinks to live in a society with high levels of criminality and low levels of trust, but that’s most of the rest of world and we’re about to get a taste of it. This is what our ruling class wants, so to paraphrase Mencken, I hope they get it good and hard.
DeSantis is just following Alinsky’s rule to make them follow their own rules. The reaction of the Vineyarders is beyond hilarious. Thank God they’ve got those annoying people shipped off to the Cape.
and then on the other side, there are the likes of sununu and happy hogan, who always follow the prog narrative, but occasionally whisper tisk tisk at the brandon red wedding speech,
can there ultimately be a peaceful resolution, with one side, intent on tearing down
every aspect of this country, and another smaller band, trying to keep it from falling apart, and every aspect of society is seemingly on the former side,
heh
https://thefederalist.com/2022/09/16/12-stunning-marthas-vineyard-vacation-homes-with-plenty-of-room-for-illegal-migrants/
This would be the ideal occasion for Democrats to break with the administration and stand up for fairness and the beleaguered people of the border towns and call out the hypocrisy of Vineyarders, but it’s not happening.
see one example
https://www.libsoftiktok.com/p/if-twitter-permanently-bans-me-ill
Keep in mind that however trusting you are of DeSantis and distrusting you may be of the “OnlyTrumps”, Marco Rubio – also from FL – was once a Tea Party darling who was not independently wealthy and went full on establishment once he arrived in DC.
I like that DeSantis is making the left live by their own rules with immigration, especially since none of them came directly to Florida, but via the same Planes, Trains, and Bus path paid for by none other than Joe Biden’s DHS.
I would feel 1000% more confident in DeSantis as a MAGA Trump Republican if he was Trump’s VP for 4 years and put all his effort into swaying the good for nothing Congress to enact their agenda and helping staff the administrative state / root out the “resistance” before turning the whole gig over to him.
Just a FYI for those not in the NYC metro area – local TV stations here are reporting how aid organizations are overwhelmed and cannot help!
OMG! They report how food banks are running out of food, clothing donations don’t have enough clothes, shelters don’t have any more room, yada, yada, yada.
The TV stations are giving “live” interviews with those who run these aid organizations – and they are all saying the same thing – “We need help!”
Part of me says they like to virtue signal, but, now that they actually have to do something they are in true panic mode. Another part of me says they all believe in not letting a “disaster” go to waste – go on the local news and scream “help!” to get the cash donations flowing in. Either way, IMO, they are despicable people.
the goulets got 18 million with their foundation, and they are still begging, it’s a good grift
https://www.jta.org/2022/09/16/ny/yeshiva-university-suspends-all-student-clubs-as-it-appeals-case-against-lgbtq-alliance
making due with kavanaugh solomonic indifference,
Yeah, Charles, how terrible for them. Meanwhile each busload is literally 2% of what comes into TX and AZ every single day. But the border is secure and there’s nothing to see here
The MVY locals are feeling pretty good about themselves and their response, which in fairness was everything one could hope for in terms of generosity and hospitality. The same facility that housed the refugees is used for the homeless ministry in the winter, and no one is complaining about that. These refugees were well-organized family units. I was in the Parish Hall right after they left, and the Tea Party could hard have left it neater.
The Commonwealth of Massachusetts organized removing the refugees to Otis on the Cape, as best I can tell. (Did calls go to Charlie Baker to get them removed? I wouldn’t think so, but that would be at best speculation.)
If anything, the local Lefties are feeling even more superior to Ron DeSantis and expressing their contempt pretty openly. At least some of the assisting organizations are receiving more donations that they know what to do with. I give the donors credit for putting their money where their mouths are. That was partly a function of DeSantis choosing a strategic target for a handful of people that would generated vastly more publicity for his case and vastly more expense to his opponents than it cost the state of Florida.
So everybody ended up getting what they want. How often does that happen?
Given that DeSantis is an Italian name rather than German, shouldn’t Ken Burns have called the governor a Mafia capo, or even a capo di tutti capi, rather than a Nazi?
Quite a reaction for 50 illegals. My childhood experiences remind me that broadcasting their feelings of superiority to the rest of us is something that Massachusetts liberals excel at, and it’s matched only by their obliviousness to the absurdities of scale. We fed 50 refugees! What a hard day’s work, time to call up the military to take over.
If DeSantis had been playing fair, he would have sent them emissaries from the MS-13 tat brigade to keep them warm.
DeSantis WOULD be so much better than Trump. DeSantis doesnt get in his own way the way Trump does and it isnt 90% about his own ego.
DeSantis 2024.
I have yet to see De Santis hit a false note. I would be fine with him running as Trump’s VP if I were convinced that Trump has learned from his mistakes in the people he choses to surround himself with but I have yet to see any indication that he’s done so. For all the right things Trump did, his failure IMO fell to his abysmal choice in assistants. If reelected, he needs to be far more ruthless.
Aggie,
“If DeSantis had been playing fair, he would have sent them emissaries from the MS-13 tat brigade to keep them warm.”
Hopefully, he’s keeping that step in reserve. Certainly the liberal and leftist democrats have no remorse over their support for enabling the cartels to partially control our border and move massive amounts of fentanyl into the US.
So they’ve called the tune and sooner or later, must pay the piper.
Some people I know and like are OnlyTrumpers and I’m not sure why. Is it a defensive reflex action they acquired through 4 years of unfair and vicious criticism of him? I’ve heard and agree with all the good things he did but he made some terrible blunders that are too numerous to go into now. (Although Anthony Scaramucci is one of my personal favorites.) Further, he didn’t do some of the things he could have done because he concerned himself with trivialities. (Joe Scarborough?? WTH) That said, I will vote for him albeit unenthusiastically if he’s nominated. DeSantis looks like the best so far but I want to hear from other candidates before I commit. The movement is bigger than Trump and was forming before he came along. Tea Parties started in 2009.
Sgt Joe Friday at 5 :15pm:
Well said. International travel certainly opens your eyes to the value of the rule of law and private property ownership backed by courts. It’s a rather simple formula, but it takes honest institutions, leaders with high ethical standards, and people who understand and respect the ideas. It’s as you say, not found in many places in the world, and we are in danger of losing it here.
If you missed Ticker Carlson’s show last night, you should watch the video at Real Clear Politics. Tucker roasted the, Vineyardites as only he can.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/09/16/tucker_carlson_marthas_vineyard_is_finally_diverse_citizens_now_have_to_live_with_the_policies_they_advocated_for.html
Re: NYC immigrant panic
It’s not that the busing made the crisis worse (inasmuch as it had an effect, yeah, it is worse) it’s that it meant the local powers-that-be had a grimalkin to blame.
But the idea that the hundreds(? maybe?) of immigrants bused to NYC made a splash in an extant illegal alien community of minimum high five figures is absurd. “Sure, 90 000 undocumenteds is fine, but 91k? Chaos!”
I don’t doubt that the folks providing for these people can use help, but it’s not a noticeably greater need than it was before the first of Abbott’s buses arrived.
If anything, the local Lefties are feeling even more superior to Ron DeSantis and expressing their contempt pretty openly.
The Lefties in question seem to have had a remarkable come-to-Jesus moment– “One of the most amazing aspects of the story of Ron DeSantis sending migrants to Martha’s Vineyard is the left’s sudden embrace of religion. Over the last 48 hours, countless progressives and never-Trumpers have discovered Christianity in their outrage over this.”
Lots of examples of prog piety at the link: https://legalinsurrection.com/2022/09/progressives-angry-about-desantis-sending-migrants-to-marthas-vineyard-are-suddenly-experts-on-jesus-and-religion/
Wonder what he would say?
https://www.cuttyhunkhistoricalsociety.org/exhibits-past-bartholomew-gosnold/
https://mobile.twitter.com/FearTheFloof/status/1570890332904226817?cxt=HHwWgoDQneqb9swrAAAA
Geoffrey Britain says “I have yet to see De Santis hit a false note,” unlike Trump the Mean Tweeter. (Ooh! It burns, like calling a spade a spade and a retard a retard. Que’ll horror!)
QUESTION ONE: How are you Right-Wing virtue signallers any different from those Leftist virtue signallers?
QUESTION TWO: I’m not sure about “The Last Refuge” (The Rebrand of “The Conservative Treehouse”) dissent on DeSantis — I do visit there from time to time, but I do not spent time with the commenters. I may guess Neo does both?
Anyway, the hardest hitting dissent on DeSantis is that his campaign is hugely funded by our friends (READ We The Peoples’ “enemies”) at the US Chamber of Commerce, allied to China, Open Borders, and GOP inc.
The second charge is that this fact explains a second — DeSantis going AWOL on the manifestly Fourth and Fifth Amendment violating and historically unprecedented FIB raid on Trump’s MAL last month!
DeSantis, it is inferred, is just pleasing his Masters! it is claimed. And these are The People’s enemies behind the Deep State. Or so some — many? — say..
I myself have not checked these claims and offer no superior judgement.
My strategic concern is that Trump fight’s. Like Lincoln, we need our Grant on the field of battle. He fights for us — he’s in Their Way for us. He’s proved his value, virtue and mettle, again and again, nationally. By contrast, DeSantis is young and under tested. Let him wait. Why is this so achingly WRONG? The proper order of seniority in battle leadership?
Trump’s American Exceptionalist conservatism is the special brand of fight I want — and that WE need!
As for you Virtue Signalers, what the Double H hockey pucks is WRONG with you! Playing nice to the Enemies Useful Idiot Media NEVER works. Don’t be gullible just because DS makes you FEEL better about your primitive courageouslessness.
Plus, we now have the results of an election test in the strong success seen in Trump endorsed candidates winning primary contests — roughly 95% by my guesstimate?
Speaking of which, the latest Fire Alarm on the Biden Oligarchy’s continuing destruction of out Rule of Law and our formerly great Constitution concerns Facebook trolling for dissent on 2020 vote fraud by PM users and then the DOJ/FIB coordinating speech suppressing Warrants and Federal Stasi units against the Grating Pretenders critics.
Miranda Devine
https://nypost.com/2022/09/14/facebook-spied-on-private-messages-of-americans-who-questioned-2020-election/
American Greatness
https://amgreatness.com/2022/09/16/report-facebook-spied-on-private-messages-of-users-who-were-skeptical-of-2020-election-results/
WE NEED STEEL LEADING in our fight, before we have to shed our blood — that is, I fear, inevitably coming.
In my experience, the left’s version of Jesus is a “ Jesus” removed from the Old Testament context. If you have one of those Bibles with the cross referencing system, it does not take long to see that Jesus was regularly quoting the Old Testament, not Karl Marx.
I have seen at least two lefties misquote Matthew 5:3 which says, “ Blessed are the poor in spirit: for their’s is the kingdom of heaven.” KJV . The lefties shorten that verse to “ Blessed are the poor.”
A week or two ago there was a remarkably sane discussion in the comments at Ace of Spades about Trump v. DeSantis. Most of the commenters sensibly agreed that either would be vastly preferable to any Dem and then gave plausible reasons for preferring one or the other.
TJ above summarizes some of the pro-Trump points. I think the sentiment for DeSantis now is basically he is Trump without the baggage. If you forced me to pick one right now I would probably say DeSantis but there is an awful lot that can happen between now and the election. My biggest hope is that the choice can be resolved without a suicidal intraparty fight.
I appreciated Ken Burns’ “Civil War” documentary. It made me think more deeply about the Civil War.
For much of my childhood I was a California transplant into sixties Florida. There were still a few “Colored” drinking fountains when I got there. And I saw plenty of Stars & Bars confederate flags, as well as bumper stickers with a little gray-suited cartoon Confederate general exclaiming, “Hell no, I ain’t forgettin’!”
I didn’t get it. But Ken Burns helped me get it. I thank him and Shelby Foote, a historian who helped narrate the doco, on that account.
However, since then Ken Burns has been a reliable propagandist for various woke causes and I don’t thank him for that.
@ huxley > It seems that Burns has forgotten that the party of slavery in the Civil War was the Democrats.
The leaders haven’t changed their opinions much, just their targets.
}}} But I have to say I’ve never been a Ken Burns fan, so it doesn’t really surprise me.
I’ve never been a fan, but I did respect him. Not any more.
I the men of Easy Company were still around, they’d kick his ass rather than let him interview them.
The last one passed away a few months ago thats why he can get away with this libel against america he hasnt learned anything new about vietnam since 1975 this was clear in his previous series
AesopFan:
Well, yeah. The Copperheads and all that.
The Ken Burns doco helped me understand how the Civil War still resonated over a century later.
What did I know? I was eleven when we moved to Florida. It didn’t occur to me that things might change driving a few thousand miles east. It didn’t occur to me that people would remember events over a century previous.
I had no idea how history worked. Growing up beatnik and hippie didn’t help. The Ken Burns doco did. That’s all I’m saying.
@ PA Cat > “Lots of examples of prog piety at the link:”
Legal Insurrection has a salon of commenters very like those here, so I often scroll down to read their discussions.
Here is a very apt comment. (Meaning no offense to actual religious among the Democrats, of whom there are still many; they have been mistaught for generations. The response is to the cynical activists.)
And the genuinely pious, although ignorant, probably didn’t get the update to the stories of the generous MV residents who managed to shelter the illegal aliens for ONE WHOLE DAY before sending them away.
}}} QUESTION ONE: How are you Right-Wing virtue signallers any different from those Leftist virtue signallers?
None of us are “Virtue Signalling”, jackwad.
}}} Anyway, the hardest hitting dissent on DeSantis is that his campaign is hugely funded by our friends (READ We The Peoples’ “enemies”) at the US Chamber of Commerce, allied to China, Open Borders, and GOP inc.
Well, since none of his behavior, speech, or actions have supported *any* of that crap, they must be really really really pissed with him, huh?
Or maybe your source for said baloney is full of shit?
}}} DeSantis going AWOL on the manifestly Fourth and Fifth Amendment violating and historically unprecedented FIB raid on Trump’s MAL last month!
How is he “AWOL”? That’s a federal action, he has literally nothing to say or do about it as a state executive.
Well a war that claimed approx 6 million lives in todays no would have an impact, the fact that 30 years later it was as if the war never happened and thaf was true for another 60 years that was terrible
https://mobile.twitter.com/MattsIdeaShop/status/1570950099903328257?cxt=HHwWgsDRid2ykc0rAAAA
Geoffrey Britain raises three points. I think the first is the most impotant one, which I answer lastly.
“I would be fine with [DeSantis] running as Trump’s VP if I were convinced that Trump has learned from his mistakes in the people he choses to surround himself with but I have yet to see any indication that he’s done so. For all the right things Trump did, his failure IMO fell to his abysmal choice in assistants. If reelected, he needs to be far more ruthless.”
True on the last point — but would the Establishment like McConnell allowed him to be? Of course not.
As to the middle or second short criticism, I believe that while true in some sense, it misses the very point of electing a genuine and authentic outsider: of course he or she’s going to be on unfamiliar ground and fail to perceive the sand traps and water hazards and rough disguising ball ricocheting stumps — it’s a completely novel golf course he or she’s playing.
(See Patrick Byrnes accounts of Trump managerial failure, ie, The Deep Rig book and his web site deepcapture.com]. In greater part, he sees — correctly I believe — that Trump’s family business system is rooted in certain frequently seen counter-adaptation strategies from [deceased] parental alcoholic’s dysfunctions on their children. This can have its benefits, but also hazards, eg, Trump as Dad is too much like a Magpie That is, instead of management based on clear delegation of responsibility followed up with reporting and accountability, he relies on a high trust group cohesion, but “don’t be the goat” – as KT McFarland discusses in her book – sort of system. Donald Trump himself remains final decider. Hmmm. A second thought: what about our host and family counselling expert? How about reaching out to others with related expertise? American Greatness.com and other Claremont Institute organs? An expert’s round-table on likely Trump family dynamics as a managerial hurdle? And gentle recommendation? Obviously, compiling some sets of observations by insiders — if not interviews — for research is needed to proceed.)
Geoffrey’s first and longest point is fairly often shared and agreed upon. For the moment I won’t try to answer it by researching and re-reading the lesson’s Team Trump is claimed to have answered, as discussed in the two part Axios exegesis, late July (27 and 28th, perhaps).
But I am almost moved to do so. Why? In light of the two foregoing first-hand sources, both Byrnes (and even Lt Gen Flynn, who found each other simpatico, says Byrnes), and McFarland saw family social dynamic impair managerial follow-through.
How does this relate to the Axios two parter? Trump rewards and lives by loyalty delegated and returned.
How much is this “Trump loyalty” supporting or undermining mission focus upon completing the tasks of institutional reforms?
My memory about the Axios piece is that our enemy made a great deal out of the “Schedule F” tool to root out bureaucratic deadwood and resistance by going around it as fast as possible, effectively eviscerating “civil servant” inertia.
If true, then I’m all in, and ruthlessly for it!
Well lets stop with the psycho babble he demanded loyalty but the ruling class arent even loyal to this countrys principles perhaps china qatar and iran
Even after general flynn had been proven to be in the right emmett sullivan let that flying monkey john gleason who was a partner with weissmam in thr gotti prosecution as his memoir relates
Now while gotti was being prosecuted whitey bulger was out on the town, who was a bigger threat who made sure not to touch for at least 20 years
TJ:
Whether or not you spend much time at Conservative Treehouse, you seem to have ingested some of the lies about DeSantis promulgated there. For example, you write: “DeSantis going AWOL on the manifestly Fourth and Fifth Amendment violating and historically unprecedented FIB raid on Trump’s MAL last month!.”
Completely false, claimed by sundance, and spread around far and wide so that now people such as you seem to believe it’s true without checking to determine for yourself its truth or falsehood. In fact, DeSantis was one of the first to condemn the raid, and he did it in no uncertain terms. See this:
More here:
It only takes a few seconds to find quotes like that.
@ huxley > “The Ken Burns doco helped me understand how the Civil War still resonated over a century later.”
When I was born in 1952, the free calendars from the seed companies in Texas still included the birthday of Jefferson Davis.
I hasten to note that no one celebrated the day, and certainly didn’t support any return to slavery (Texas was not part of the deep south and had very few slave-dependent plantations, mostly in the east rather than my western county).
I was not criticizing you at all, BTW, just pointing out that Burns didn’t seem to have learned as much from his film-making as his viewers did.
AesopFan:
I was a member of an Episcopal Church in the 1980s. We were a sanctuary church supporting Salvadorean refugees from the absolutely brutal civil war in El Salvador.
We, including me personally, collected food from farmer’s markets, distributed the food to refugees. and helped out however we could.
I’m not sure there was a right side in that war, but Reagan backed the death squads killing nuns and civilians and Archbishop Oscar Romero.
I have no regrets being on the Christian left in those days.
Well the fmln has been the government for about 12 years and they funded and supported the ms 13 gang bukatele used to be part of the ruling party but split away
You think its going to be any easier to reclaim this country the paramilitaries arose because the rank and file troops understood that batista was too soft on the july 26th the mexican govt despite having shipped to cuba when the boomerang came in the 60s when you know what happened at tlatelolco then after the end of the cold war sub commando marcos showed they tbeit most elite forces go to town some of those became the zetas
What could not be won through force of arms the un which is firmly in chinas pocket undernined the center right govt as they have tried with guatemala it has held out but many countries fell under theit influence likd argentina brazil is the last large country in the region that believes in capitAlism and some semblance of free speech
Thats the thumbnail of whats been going on since 1992
So in the long run who lost the cold war
Be clear, however, I have nothing but contempt for Martha’s Vineyard sanctuary types who couldn’t ship refugees fast enough to Somewhere Else, lest their Good Lives be disrupted.
My friend Beth Abrams is still in the game:
–“Beth Abrams Center for Peace,
Arts, Justice and the Environment”
https://www.bacpaje.org/about-us
Yes, it’s mostly silly leftist stuff, as I see it now, but she stuck with her convictions and I don’t believe she would have kicked out a few dozen humans who harshed the rich folks’ mellow.
You think its a coincidence that they kicked out who fled from a left wing regime that embodies all the aspirations of what they say they want no matter how horrible the results have turned up
That the clinton shipped a 6 year old boy back to cuba to turn him into a human mannikin that happened 22 years ago and i havent forgotten we know scoundrels like holder and greg craig are still around and have not been held accountable.
It seems the more they push these left wing nostrums with zoros money oncd upon a time he worked againsf the iron curtain the more hellish thd environ becomes for animal vegetable and evetry living thing.
I think DeSantis would win in 2024 easily, especially if Trump would do what he did for Younkin in Virginia- quietly support him. Imagine Trump for 2 years running and cleaning up the DOJ before a well earned retirement.
My concern is whether DeSantis has a good enough security detail. Seriously. After everything I have seen over the last 10 years political assassination is only one more tool in the elite toolbox. It would not be hard to recruit a true believer and set him or her up as a patsy for a planned attempt
After all, who really killed Kennedy?
Oswald next question now he had contact with cuban intelligence in minsk
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/09/the-week-in-pictures-marthas-vineyard-agonistes-edition.php
Thumbnail sketch there was a coup in 1979 in el salvador left wing officers the guerillas arose the other faction saw whaf had happened next door in nicaragua with soft serve somoza much like the fall of bin ali in tunisia 30 years later
huxley, I was there at the church. I don’t see anyone’s mellow getting harshed by a few Venezuelans. We have a Brazilian population on the island that is now in the thousands. In fact, a Spanish-speaking Brazilian came to the church and led a service. I asked a member of the MV Commission whether the request to remove the refugees came from the island government. The answer was, “No.”
Mind you, the refugees are better off not being on the island. The cost of living is like Manhattan and housing is not available: 80% of the housing stock are vacation homes used in the summer, when the population swells from 20,000 to 200,000. At the same time, the County of Dukes County (I’m not making that up) is the poorest in the Commonwealth.
The local smack talk has been between Vineyarders. On one hand you have the goofy, hippyish drop outs, for whom it is always 1975. On the other hand, you have the fishermen, mariners, plumbers, carpenters, and other tradesmen who have Trump bumper stickers.
Indeed
https://mobile.twitter.com/emeriticus/status/1571076031385317379?cxt=HHwWhsDR3fPUys0rAAAA
There were reported to be hundreds of volunteers at the church, i.e 4-5 volunteers per refugee.
https://religionnews.com/2022/09/16/little-churches-still-matter-says-marthas-vineyard-pastor-whose-church-housed-migrants-desantis-florida-immigrantion/
There is plenty of room to point fingers at Vineyarders for political foolishness and hypocrisy, but this is not a case where it is justified.
Whether they could have/would have sustained the effort for any length of time is a fair question. And it fair to imagine that we only got this outpouring of publicity, support, and money because it is the Vineyard. It goes to my view that these Venezuelans are the LEAST oppressed of all the illegal aliens and refugees.
RE: Martha’s Vineyard (and the official sanctuary cities of NY, DC, Chicago)
It’s easy to support or not support any policy as long as you do not have skin in the game.
It’s only when reality hits you across the forehead good and hard, are you forced to reveal – by your actions, not words – what you really believe.
I think DeSantis’ mistake was sending the migrants without leaf blowers and rakes.
Someone called the aurhorities
https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/09/17/press-try-to-connect-desantis-flights-to-marthas-vineyard-to-russia-n628786
@ Oblio > thanks for your “on the ground” reports; they help give some perspective to the news (excuse me, op-eds) from the pundits.
@ Miguel > that emeriticus tweet from Pedro L. Gonzalez should be quoted in full:
“The real lesson from the Martha’s Vineyard affair is that it’s OK to use the military to remove illegal aliens from your community. That is the takeaway.”
As usual, however, the press will ignore that if done by Democrats and deplore if done by Republicans.
As i mentioned above the feds are perfectly willing to manhandle even terrorize some immigranta
Check my box as one of those who hated the Ken Burns Civil War series. I didn’t make it past the fourth or fifth episode. Found it tedious and repetitive. The same pictures, over and over; the tinkling piano, the weeping violin. Over and over and over. And Shelby Foote . . . fingernails on a chalkboard, very quickly I wanted to punch him in the mouth to get him to shut up. There’s more. History via film documentary is always very flawed, even when it’s scored with sappy sacharine music.
the satirical take on the galactic civil war, illustrates those points,https://www.facebook.com/washingtonpost/videos/star-wars-the-galactic-civil-war/10153441456602293/
Hold on!
Did Ken Burns just compare MV to a concentration camp??
(Well, he oughta know…he’s been doing the research…)
If so, one must thank the Good Lord that those poor people were transferred outta there to Cape Cod…
That Galactic Civil War video is very funny, and squarely on point. Reminds me of how utterly grotesquely maudlin and cliched Burns’s Civil War series was. And how many nauseating moments it provided courtesy of moving the camera back and forth over the same picture, zooming slowly in and out, in and out . . . always to the accompaniment of tinkling piano and weepy violin, playing the same tune over and over and over . . .
In defense of Ken Burns’ “Civil War” I would note he drove the point, that the North fought to end slavery, firmly into the ground.
That’s a radically conservative position in these “1619 Project” days, in which the “antiracists” rewrite American history as all-racist, all-the-time since white settlers landed.
Jefferson’s Revenge:
Oswald killed Kennedy, and he acted alone. The evidence is completely overwhelming.
If you’re interested in learning the facts, read Bugliosi’s definitive book on the subject. Most of that tome is available online, also, and can be found here.
The Civil War and Baseball were two of the best documentaries I ever saw.
That said, being a documentary filmmaker doesn’t make you an expert on anything except making documentary films.
huxley. Went to Central America with a church group in 87. Center for Global Education was the tour guide, so to speak. Saw all the dog and pony shows on the peace freak trade.
Ought to read, “On Thin Ice” by Roy Beck. I first ran across his name in a UMC newspaper following an article on the bogus Sanctuary movement. The writer of the letter to the paper agreed, but was devastated that this argument was being taken away from us. He was a religion reporter, covering a lot of the “woke” in liberal Protestantism.
He took apart a lot of the reporting on Central America.
Met a Salvdoran foreign minister–something like that–who was supposedly the author of the Arias peace plan. Luis Solis Rivera. Had some things to say not in the conventional wisdom.
The death squads were pretty much played out…and in a following election, the feared Arenas was elected, so possibly the population knew more than the popular wisdom supposed they were supposed to.
I recall the Detroit Free Press giving breathless coverage to the Salvadoran cops’ treatment of some protestors. TERRIBLE. Then, in between the tire ads, same day, was exactly the same thing when Sandinista cops met a protest. Called the paper, said they shouldn’t be so obvious.
Out on the town, so to speak, escorting one of our women travelers who wanted to see the gigantic statue of a barechested peasant brandishing an AK. That was okay, but returning was up a slight grade for couple of miles. The woman smoked like a chimney and had the physical condition of a tapeworm. We barely made it from one shaded bench to the next. I was waving handsful of currency at taxi drivers. Nada. One flipped me off. They knew who we were. Sandalistas come to schmooze with their oppressors.
TJ on September 17, 2022 at 1:14 am: in reference to the 2 Axios essays and Schedule F, etc. I came away with the impression:
1) it took Trump’s administration some time to find the legal authority/loop hole they needed to pursue the Schedule F approach, but I was surprised to learn that they had started seeking an anti-bureaucracy capability as early as 2017.
2) they were ready to “spring the trap” around late 2019, but then Covid took over everything else (and maybe they lost too much of the congressional R’s support in the 2018 election?).
3) they now have a largish and dedicated/prepared group of folks ready to parachute into a new Trump (or perhaps DeSantis) admin to help implement these ideas, with perhaps some remaining question if their loyalty is to Trump, conservatism, or the country.
4) that the way Congress has created the various agencies over the years, there is no single civil service, but several varieties or off-shoots that may require Schedules G, H, I, J, and K to achieve the restructure of the executive branch back as a responsive part of government under a truly unitary presidency.
It may be impossible to fully solve the need for selected technical or procedural expertise in some of the agencies, vs. the desire to avoid politicizing the admin staff with personnel swap outs after every party changing election. But clearly the president should have easier “firing ability” than seems to be the case right now.
@ huxley > “In defense of Ken Burns’ “Civil War” I would note he drove the point, that the North fought to end slavery, firmly into the ground.
That’s a radically conservative position in these “1619 Project” days,”
Fair enough, but Burns’ documentary first aired in September of 1990.
His stance was not controversial at the time.
Our boys saw it in middle or high school, and today they are all past 30 (some well past).
Are any young Democrats watching it now?
Jones’ travesty was published in August 2019, but I suspect the idea was percolating along with the CRT tumor before that.
I wonder if Burns could have gotten his series made anytime in the last five years, or even more.
@ R2L > “in reference to the 2 Axios essays and Schedule F, etc.”
Interesting information, and I hope it is true.
Some of the analyses I have seen of the first Trump tenure noted that he & his team, being almost total outsiders, didn’t realize just how much they had to have ready to go the first day in office.
And that Republican presidents in general don’t have the deep drawer of agreed-on legislation waiting for introduction that the Democrats always do.
AND, of course, that the Democrats immediately attacked anyone in the administration who DID have a clue about what should be done (General Flynn especially).
“But clearly the president should have easier “firing ability” than seems to be the case right now.”
That cuts both ways: Democrats would also have an easier time firing any Republicans who did get placed by President Trump-or-surrogate; however, my recollection is that the leftists don’t hesitate to fire the conservatives anyway, regardless of statutes, schedules, or optics, so codifying the process won’t make much difference to them.
@ IrishOtter > “That Galactic Civil War video is very funny, and squarely on point.”
It got the typical narrator’s tone and documentary scripting dead on.
R2L — THANK YOU for that concise breakdown and reflection! Re the late July Axios piece on what Team Trump has been preparing to do, should Trump be re-elected again.
The first three points are lucid to me. The final fourth one on how the hydra-like or Octopus armed bureaucracies are and may have to handled differently — ie, a one sized Schedule F may not suffice to achieve fundamental institutional reforms — was a brief thought in the piece. Yet it is likely to become highly contentious.
I recall that the multi-Schedules point was very brief, however.
More fights to come. .How shall the People be prepared to debate this eventuality?
Big fan of Burn’s work on the Civil War & baseball–have them both–but he’s a moron.