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  1. Later this month, NASA will finally launch Artermis I for a trip around the moon. It is roughly the end of a development process that began over a decade ago with the selection of the Orion capsule and the redesign of the launch vehicle to the SLS. You could buy 2 of those decade long moon programs for the annual budget the IRS will be getting if the Democrats have their way with BBB. And the SLS has various IG reports discussing how over budget that bloated program is.

  2. Government bureaucracy feeds to expand itself to take in more feed.
    No Government agency takes in more than the IRS.
    And they are also part of the 2 tier justice system.
    BLM hasn’t filed any information they are required to and no one will ever find out about it.

  3. I received my 2020 refund from the IRS last month, filed my 2021 in February and they still have no record of the filing even though I have my return receipt and I have been told that is not uncommon for the IRS today, not enough knowledgable staff currently in place.

  4. According to reports, 300 of the new IRS agents will make the same salary as VP Harris– $235K annually.

    It’s unknown how many will be assigned to President Trump’s businesses.

  5. Brian E., about 2000 will be.
    I wonder just how much those under 200K really cheat on taxes. Few I would bet. There may be fudging of course, and forgetting to list something, but out and out cheating not so much. However, those above say 500K more likely to do so.
    The IRS code is so complex that it is easy to mis-file. I use Turbo Tax for our relatively simple filing, but I always pay for the audit defense. I don’t trust the IRS one little bit.

  6. they also have their own private army, it’s much the way the Romans did things, in the late Republic and early Empire,

  7. Republicans in Congress should insist the new vehicles be electric “for the environment and Gaia.” That way they’d be limited to about 150 miles of their home base.

    They should also insist that all of those black SUVs you see running around D.C. be EVs too.

  8. Like OldTexan (5:42 pm) above, I’ve had to wait not-months-but-years to settle scores with the Internal Revenue Service.

    Given that there is a role and a need for internal revenue, and assuming reasonable degrees of fairness and competence in the processing of taxes (HAH!!), I would find myself all in favor of staffing IRS at levels appropriate to the need.

    Now, let’s wait and see if processing times get shorter (and if IRS agents are less error-prone), or is it all going to be in the vein of Brian E’s (5:44 pm) post (“how many will be assigned to President Trump’s businesses”)?

    I fear the worst; I know well (as do most of us here) that Lois Lerner lives and prowls!

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  10. “The main Democratic command is for the tax agency to bring the hammer down on taxpayers.”

    Brilliant, deepen the alienation of even more voters!

    “It’s purposeful targeting of the middle class, although many people in that group won’t realize it. And because the IRS has become a political tool for the Democrats, giving the IRS more power and resources makes perfect sense for the Democrat goals of not just defeating the right but crushing it.” neo

    The UniParty doesn’t need to collect more money for their spending. They simply print out of thin air all the money needed from their unlimited source of funds.

    So count on it, the great majority of the middle class targeted will be the deplorables. It’s not about increasing revenues, it’s about that which their hero spoke; “The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them down between the millstones of taxation and inflation.” Vladimir Ilyich Lenin.

    But today’s America is not 1917 Russia.

    Tragically, the left’s ideological fanaticism has prevented them from thinking through the full consequences of what they seek to do.

    Impoverish and destroy the lives of a hundred+ MILLION armed American citizens and you reap the whirlwind. The UniParty just spent the last 50 years training US combat veterans in guerilla warfare. And the logitics greatly disfavor the urban left.

    Those grimly enraged patriots are not likely to be feeling much mercy when the smoke clears. Mussolini’s fate comes to mind. A fate they repeatedly demonstrate themselves to be richly deserving of…

  11. GB: “Impoverish and destroy the lives of a hundred+ MILLION armed American citizens and you reap the whirlwind.”

    To be fair, though … I mean they bankrupted Fly Over Country and sent all the jobs overseas to China. Schools have been turned into indoctrination centers over a period of many years.
    So far? No shot has been fired.
    Look up the provocations: Ruby Ridge, Waco, Lavoy Finicum, now Ashli Babbitt
    Those are just the cold blooded killings. Reach back to Jaime Gorelick preventing CIA from informing FBI about 9/11 and then being appointed to the 911 Commission to cover her tracks. Compare Lois Lerner’s IRS and the DoJ and the FBI. The stolen election of ’20. C’mon, man. No price has been paid. No pension has been suspended. No job has been terminated. With a small handful of exceptions, no GOP support for traditional Americans.

  12. Apropos to what Old Texan said “not enough knowledgeable staff currently in place”. What will be the qualifications of the 87,000 new hires? How many will be math/accounting literate? This is a huge increase in staff – an average of 1740 staff increase per state. Where will they work? The hidden costs to employ so many are enormous. It will be virtually impossible to find this many qualified staff familiar with the tax codes. I predict that this will decrease the efficiency of the IRS as the competent will, by necessity, have to spend more of their time correcting the mistakes of the incompetent. This ill thought out action serves to create another class totally dependent on the largess of Democrat controlled government – at our expense.

  13. @ Xylourgos > “Where will they work?”

    After being hired by the IRS, will they be “lent” to some other agency for “temporary duty” — because that hides the increase in apparatchiks somewhere the Dems don’t want people to know they are being used?

    No idea what agency would get them — but they won’t be reviewing tax returns.

  14. You could be correct – but they won’t be reviewing tax returns. I would wager that a sizable number of new hires have never/nor could not complete their own tax return.

  15. According to an American Thinker article this morning:

    “Buried in the wording is a paragraph giving the Secretary of the Treasury the ability to hire directly into the competitive service without regard for current laws that mandate publicly announcing available competitive service openings.”

    https://tinyurl.com/5cu9fbv7

  16. The same article has:

    “In the $45 billion enforcement section, we’ve got ‘…to provide digital asset monitoring…’.”

    The author speculates this is for Warren’s wealth tax. Or could it mean Central Bank Digital Currency is a fait accompli?

    There’s a CBO report on the proposed increase that is skeptical there would be a vast increase in IRS revenue from it:

    https://www.cbo.gov/publication/57444

  17. Yeah. You know that garage sale you had and sold a hundred dollars worth of old stuff? Taxable. Sold a chair on Craigslist or a lamp on ebay? Taxable.
    Sold a used car? Trade in a used car, tax on trade in value.

    Teenager mowing the neighbors lawn? Taxable.

    And, notification of interest and fines a couple of years after you commit the crime of not paying the tax.

  18. re: Nancy B’s comment on digital asset monitoring.

    I have no idea what it is, either, but I did notice this recent article–
    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/court-authorizes-service-john-doe-summons-seeking-identities-us-taxpayers-who-have-used-1
    Court Authorizes Service of John Doe Summons Seeking Identities of U.S. Taxpayers Who Have Used Cryptocurrency

    A federal court in the Northern District of California entered an order today authorizing the IRS to serve a John Doe summons on Payward Ventures Inc., and Subsidiaries d/b/a Kraken (Kraken) seeking information about U.S. taxpayers who conducted at least the equivalent of $20,000 in transactions in cryptocurrency during the years 2016 to 2020.

  19. JimNorCal,

    Good men and women do not resort to arms until no other recourse remains. It has ever been so.

    “Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.”

    So too was it prior to 1776. Only when very few could argue that there was still reason to hope did the American colonists conclude that only through force could relief from tyranny be obtained.

    “But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.”

    The next two elections will decide whether hope remains.

  20. GB: we’re on the same side.
    Let’s hope our “Good German” neighbors wake up while the cost to right the ship is relatively low.
    But it may be time to imagine a world where they don’t. It has happened before in history…

  21. Yes Jim we are but they didn’t “throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security” without force.

    I fear it may turn out to be an unavoidable necessity.

    As there is no limit in the depth of depravity that the left will not descend to in pursuit of their utopia.

  22. Knowing the drubbing they are in for in November, the Democrats and the Administrative State are putting as much mischief as they can in place, so that the incoming politicians will be tied up for a good long time, undoing it.

    A saving grace would be if the Republicans had a game plan to stop the clock, so to speak, as soon as they take office. But of course they have no time or any particular taste for such dramatic planning efforts. If a Republican is sworn in come January ’25, we may be in for interesting times, or at least I may be wishing for them by then.

  23. @ Aggie > “But of course they have no time or any particular taste for such dramatic planning efforts.”

    You are assuming there are some who aren’t complicit in the actions we want stopped.*

    Replacing Obamacare and Building the Wall come to mind.
    They didn’t have any plans ready in 2017, when they finally got the Presidency that they demanded before they could do anything, because most of them didn’t really want to interfere with their (or their donors’) preferred policies.

    And we should have had enough support for flat-out repealing Obamacare that Maverick “Benedict Arnold” McCain couldn’t stop it with his sour-grapes no vote.

    *I actually believe there are a few, but not enough, and not in higher positions. However, I never let facts get in the way of a good line!

  24. @ Nancy B > the American Thinker post indirectly supports what Xylourgos and I speculated on: going after garden-variety fraud is not the major objective.
    Whether taxing unrealized capital gains, crypto transactions, or big-league evasion, rest assured that you will be under the thumb of the wokest diversity-inclusion-equity agents.

    So, again, what’s this money for? In the original BBB bill, this section took up a page. Now, it’s ten pages long. It starts on page 1926 of the current version of H.R. 5376 and on page 31 of the Senate’s draft Inflation Reduction Act; versions are slightly different but the total is the same. In the $45 billion enforcement section, we’ve got “…to provide digital asset monitoring….”

    If that doesn’t make the hairs on the back of your neck stand up I don’t know what will. The IRS should be concerned only with assets it suspects are being funded through tax fraud and it doesn’t take $45 billion to do that. But to establish the ability to implement Senator Warren’s unconstitutional “wealth tax,” well, it might just be enough.


    And about those 87,000 new folks? The IRS already can’t meet its annual hiring goals. If you worked there, would you let folks know? A friend of mine even kept her family in the dark.

    IRS agents are accountants. Now that the San Diego school district is giving straight As to every child who lives in the district, whether or not they show up at school, think any of them will be able to make it through 30 semester hours of increasingly complex accounting courses?

    Buried in the wording is a paragraph giving the Secretary of the Treasury the ability to hire directly into the competitive service without regard for current laws that mandate publicly announcing available competitive service openings. The Secretary can ignore all federal laws that give hiring preference to veterans, the disabled, former employees (that would include those fired for not taking the co-vax), military spouses, Peace Corps volunteers, etc. That’s one way to make sure only those who meet a political smell test get to participate in this new IRS enforcement program.

    In re filling the ranks of IRS accountants regardless of ability, Heather Mac Donald has thoughts and facts about the medical schools lowering their standards to raise the matriculation and graduation rates of certain desired applicants, which apply to woke education in general.

    https://www.city-journal.org/the-corruption-of-medicine
    “Guardians of the profession discard merit in order to alter the demographics of their field”

    An inadequate tax accountant might get you sent to jail, but an incompetent doctor can get you killed.

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